And here's the "performance" that won:Watch Sean Lennon's acceptance speech as they accept the GRAMMY for BEST ROCK PERFORMANCE for "NOW AND THEN" at the 2025 GRAMMYs. #TheBeatles#NowAndThen#SeanOnoLennon #GRAMMYS2025 #Grammys pic.twitter.com/zWWzpygPkO
— Carlos 🎧 🇦🇷 ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@carlosgvizcaino) February 3, 2025
The Beatles have won a GRAMMY Award for “Best Rock Performance” for their song “Now and Then”pic.twitter.com/W6fYGSZjbL
— The Beatles Earth (@BeatlesEarth) February 3, 2025
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A few years ago a granddaughter (age ~ 9 or 10) was showing some pictures of her friends in various dress-up costumes. One kid had long hair, round glasses, and a newsboy-style hat. I asked if he was trying to look like John Lennon, and she asked, "Who's John Lennon, grandpa?"
Does Sean Lennon get money from Beatles music?
I follow him on X. He definitely has his own mind.
He might get some performance royalties for things John sang on, but Sony Music would get any and all publishing royalties. If he makes any money off John's work it's most likely his post-Beatles output.
Imagine there's no Yoko...
The crazy part is this got a Grammy and it's maybe the 63rd best Beatles song.
The conceit in the movie "Yesterday" is that, after a time distortion, only a handful of people remember the Beatles' songs. It's a charming film.
I understand the limitations on what they had to work with, but there’s too much Jeff Lynne production cluttering that song.
I thought Stayin’ Alive was a Bee Gees tune.
It’s all cranberry sauce.
Sean seems to be quite a smart fellow. Love the music he made w/ Les Claypool a few years back.
That’s because so much of today’s modern music is so bankrupt.
I like and appreciate the effort. The visuals are hokey. Every few years the digital effects people become convinced they’ve nailed it…
I'd say une jeune fillette, which has shown more staying power.
they still have "grammies" ??
wow!
if they do; i bet they're So Screwed Up, that they'd give the Country Grammy to Bouncey
I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would. Really well done. I want to say that I first heard about it via an Althouse post or a comment on one, but maybe I am imagining that.
Trailer
PS. I can't say that I've been a fan of John Lennon in particular, but there is a scene in the movie related to John Lennon that left me quite choked up.
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Indeed. Like his father, Sean Lennon seems to be an independent thinker, especially for a musician.
At this point, shouldn’t he be asking to play the Beatles for the grandkids and great-grandkids?
Haven't you heard Gibar? Beyonce invented Country Music.
That's why some people call it the "Grannies."
Grok says yes, via royalties, management of John's estate, being an Apple Corps director, and who knows what else. The details aren't public.
The Beatles are still an entity. The "group" still makes perhaps $100 million per year through licensing, merchandising, their YouTube channel, etc., again according to my friend Grok.
I really like that record, in part because it's not trying to sound like the Beatles. Instead, it's taking a John Lennon song, and having Paul, Giles Martin, and Ringo add their creative contributions to it based on what their ears tell them the song needs and what will sound good. Evidently nobody objected to the fact that it sounds nothing like a Beatles track, they just let it stand on its own merits -- and it does.
Of course, George isn't on the record, except in that they took a bit of the three-part harmony from "Because" to fill out the bridge toward the end. But it's still a Beatles song. There were a number of Beatles songs that fewer than all four of them played on.
Sean is right.
Yes, he's an interesting guy. Doesn't seem woke.
He gives off a strong libertarian vibe.
The Beatles are a great marketing phenomenon, but they had risen and broke up before I was 8 years old. I'm 62. They are basically where The Glenn Miller Band was in 2000. Good that we have recordings, but of the past regardless of current devotees. Full disclosure, I have Big Band on the MP3 I use for music in my truck. A lot of other music as well, that I put on random when I'm not listening to podcasts.
My daughter is a Beatles fanatic. That was her gateway drug to opera.
We took our HS freshman granddaughter to see "Yesterday" when it came out. Later she said, "There are kids in my class who don't even know who the Beatles are. I call that poor parenting."
I'd likely be lumped in with those poor parenting folks if not for the very fun cartoon that came along just at the right time for my kids' ages: Beat Bugs.
On Spotify, you can find many playlists of Beatles songs curated for children, e.g., https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0OOY9uu4unntbXQCrF4sVu?si=a4e65b12354b4ab8
Or make your own... Martha My Dear, Here Comes the Sun, Penny Lane, Dear Prudence, Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite....
Sean Lennon was born in 1975 he has no idea what the 60's were like. He didn't have to worry about being drafted and sent to fight in some far away jungle or being sent home in a box. He never experienced his friends or family coming home in said box. The cold war, Cuban Missile Crisis, riots in Newark and Watts, urban unrest, Kennedy assassinations, protests, riots, yup the 60's were great unless you actually there. And let's not forget how our returning vets were treated. Good times, good times.
......were actually there.
But the music and drugs were great!
Sex, drugs and rock and roll!
Anyone born before 1980 knows all about the 1960s and such. Folks who lived in that time, who also were in charge of most entertainment into the early 2000s, are like vegans, they never stop talking about it.
I tend to think the Grammies are about as useful as the Oscars nowadays. This song seems kind of Meh to me (not a big Beatles fan on the whole either), but I did like the video. Very clever and touching. I think Lennon and Harrison would have approved.
Like Wendybar and others, I've been following Sean for years. He always remembers his mother's birthday, knowing that she remains reviled by many. I knew he had been nominated, but I think it was because others congratulated him. No posts leading up to the Grammy's. A remarkably humble guy.
Did the Glenn Miller band pull in the equivalent of a $100 million a year back in 2000?
It's a toss-up: Beatles "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" vs Cardi B "Wet Ass Pussy"
Good times, indeed. "Those Were the Days My Friend".
60s took me from HS graduation to beginning of my last year (1970) in-country. There's something about a 10-year adrenaline rush. Nothing like it since, although mid-70s to mid-80s were pretty fuckin' spectacular. Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll... Acid Booze and Ass... Whatever.
Everyone I served with was a volunteer. All gave some. Some gave all. Exhilaration was part of it. Fear was part of it. Doing something really hard was part of it. Craziness was definitely part of it. Giving fate the finger was part of it. Bitching was part of it BUT whining was not tolerated.
"Paint it Black" and "We Gotta Get Out of This Place' were favorites - as was the Country Joe McDonald classic alluded to by Capt. BillyBob.
Many of us went on to have wonderful lives... families... successes of every kind. But, we remember life on a sharp edge and sometimes we miss it.
All of that remains true in spite of the fact, many years later we learned how horribly Lyndon Johnson and Bob McNamara had lied to us (we realized how incompetently they had led us at the time they were doing so). I've been to the Vietnam Memorial (buried in the ground as so many of our comrades are) once. Never again. As I lingered for an hour looking for and talking with silent friends, I badly wanted to kill Lyndon. That son-of-a-bitch deserved to die more than once. Maybe 60,000 times...
Peace.
We've come a long way, Baby. I wanna go back. What 82-year-old doesn't :-)
We wanted to imprint good music on our daughter so we played old 19th century and before music, Jazz, and classical for her. We felt she could move on to the Beatles and crap like rap when she got older.
Stayin' Alive came out in the 70’s
We can try to understand
The New York Times' effect on man
As Bill Maher pointed out, Trump is not letting anybody forget the 70’s
I remember the magic and dont know why. Maybe there was excess cognitive dissonance in the 60s. A build-up of excess cognitive dissonance can maybe help explain the 70s.
I can do without the Grammys 100%, but I'm glad they honored Sean Lennon and I thought the song was sweetly nostalgic and tastefully done, even if it wasn't the Beatle's best - it was nicely reflective, and you can see it in McCartney's old face.
I've only read Sean's tweets. I still have Julian's Valotte album, which I found to be quite listenable.
I'm trying to figure out the difference between "Record of the Year" and "Album of the Year" as categories receiving an award.
As to the subject at hand - that song sounds like what someone tried to reimagine as a Beatles song.
Pretty anemic stuff IMO.
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