🚨Update: Secretary Marco Rubio: Canada becoming a US state is a real possibility! “If you balance out our trade, Canada will cease to exist as a country!”pic.twitter.com/UUPArryP32
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February 21, 2025
Is absorbing Canada "a real thing"?
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There you go.
All the breathlessness of Trump commenting about Trudeau as Governor and Canada as our 51st is so classic Trump. And the left's reaction, along with some in Canada, is so predictable and discouraging. At some point you'd think people would begin to understand how he speaks. And not take every declaration as a serious action about to happen.
Everything...and I mean everything is a negotiation. He is always working to close a deal. Everyone knows we don't want to absorb ALL of Canada. Just...some key parts.
No, but it might let the Liberals hang onto power through running against Trump. Right now instead of talking about how their prime minister simply dissolved parliament and undid all of the work that they had done this session, simply to avoid them voting to strip him of his job, which he claims to have resigned from, but which he is still doing, while fills every appointed post within his power to, they are talking about Trump.
Thomas Jefferson said "Canada is ours for the marching!" so it's an old idea, but a stupid one.
And keep the nat'l song :"No Canada!"
This was an excellent interview. I give a lot of credit to ask a question and allow an answer. Let others decide what to think about the answer.
Rubio also made great comments about Zelenski.
As for Trudeau, I said before he didn't resign. He simply said he would give up power when he is voted out of office. Trudeau is still in office.
So short answer, no. We have an old jerk for president.
"We have an old jerk for president."
He's gone now, and we are trying to douse his wars; try to keep up!
At some point you'd think people would begin to understand how he speaks. And not take every declaration as a serious action about to happen.
10 years on, and a whole lot of people are still doing "literally, but not seriously" instead of the other way 'round.
"So short answer, no. We have an old jerk for president."
Au contraire. The answer was, "Canada's Prime Minister has stated that Canada cannot exist as a nation without massive subsidies. The US does not intend to provide such subsidies. It would seem, then that Canada cannot exist as a nation. Perhaps Canada would like to become a State?".
What Americans may not grasp here, is that Castreaux and his buddies have been pulling the plug on Canada for decades. They have explicitly stated that Canada is a "post-national state", by which they mean that the white people need to die off and be replaced. Over 40% of the Canadian population was born elsewhere, or has at least one parent born elsewhere. But if the Nation is not defined by its people, what is it? It's some lines on a map. As is a State. So.
If the Canadians want to continue being a Nation, they are going to have to become nationalists.
Here's a fantastic and relevant thread regarding the Canada topic: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1891936371066978548.html
Hey, I’ve got a bright idea: Let’s add another state with a population the size of California and politics to match, then find out whether it affects the balance of political power in America.
@Leland "This was an excellent interview."
Do you know where the orginal, full interview is? The one shown here is on X and is from RT, which is the Russian state. So, it's not clear if Rubio did the interview with him, or RT is pushing a clip that serves their purposes.
@Amexpat -- the interview was conducted on X by Catherine Herridge. Her feed has the full video.
The leaders of Canada have already told the people that they are "post national." Trudeau is one more member of the World Economic Forum (WEF) cult, and those guys are all about untrammeled migration in service of their globalist agenda. They are the people who define all who oppose their globalism as "far right."
The Liberal Party in Canada has been heavily subsidizing the press, well the ones smart enough to fawn over them get the money, and the US actually is copying that technique with the USAID funding of press outlets here.
So simple. Trump fucking with Trudeau. No sentient person takes this seriously.
Hence Democrats and Canadians freaking out.
I also saw the clip of Rubio talking about the duplicity of Zelenski. Every time I hear the SOS speak, I am reminded how polished and professional he is.
Poutine tastes gross…
Apropos of not much, I hate the interview format of two straight-backed chairs facing one another. So awkward.
They have explicitly stated that Canada is a "post-national state"
From Grok:
Justin Trudeau described Canada as the "first post-national state" in an interview with The New York Times Magazine published on December 8, 2015. He said, "There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada," emphasizing that Canada’s identity is rooted in shared values rather than a singular cultural or ethnic foundation. He further elaborated, "Canada has discovered that a fluid national identity can be a strength, not a weakness," pointing to the country’s diversity and openness as defining traits. In the same interview, he noted, "Canadians have understood that our differences are a source of strength, not a source of weakness," suggesting that Canada transcends traditional notions of nationhood based on a fixed "core" identity.
Joe Bar: “Every time I hear the SOS speak, I am reminded how polished and professional he is.“
I agree. Trump obviously had “outstanding speaking skills” on the requirement list for each of his nominees. I can’t think of any that are hesitant or halting about conveying what they need to convey in a completely understandable way. And with a bit of urgency on top of that. His team is quite the well-built machine.
@kate
Thanks for the link. I just watched the full interview. Rubio is very impressive. He comes across as being very solid, with well reasoned answers presented in a calm, straight forward manner.
I spent many years traveling to Canada in my young days in the mining industry. My conclusion was that Canadians are so smart and so “moral” that they have burrowed out the other side of the hill and become completely stupid. They are stupid and proud.
If I spoke for the us, I would take everything except the cities, there is nothing good in Canadian cities. The wilderness is just fine, good hardy people.
Wes Anderson, is that you?
Did I hear right? Having a positive trade balance with another country is cheating? Learn something new everyday.
Trudeau is outraged over being the 51st state is due to Trump saying it. IF Kam Harris said it, he'd love it. Trump's point is an excellent one - we subsidize Canada through NAFTA and sweatheart trade deals. Yet they refuse to guard their border an prevent Fent and illegal aliens come into the USA.
So why are we being so nice to Canada, let them become the 51st state if they want such advantages.
I'd be in favor of trading New England for western Canada. That would be a win win for everyone.
Is absorbing Canada "a real thing"?
I don't know. How about absorbing a festering tumor? How real is that?
President Trump is lying about Trudeau being governor of Canada. The Governor (General) of Canada is Mary Simon, appointed by King Chuck of England (and Canada etc)
So not only is Trudeau not the governor, he is subordinate to the actual governor of Canada.
John Henry
We're not going to swallow up Canada.
Lemme just put in a word of praise for the parts of Canada that aren't like America -- Quebec and the Maritimes. We may not want to gobble them up, but I admire the way they continue to be what they are and have been -- or at least the way they haven't just followed the rest of the country or rest of the continent down the same well-beaten paths.
It's amazing, though, how much history -- and how much geography -- is happening all of a sudden.
"Canada's Prime Minister has stated that Canada cannot exist as a nation
First, Trudeau is not Canadas prime minister nor prime minister of canada. He does not swear and oath to the Canadian people, the "nation" of Canada the Canadian Constitution or anything like.
He is King Chuck's Prime Minister FOR Canada. He swears his oath to Chuck personally by name (Like the Wehrmacht except that in addition to Adolf Hitler, they swore an oath to the German people and German nation)
He is appointed by the Governor General, themself a Chuck appointee. Based on the recommendation of the leading party in parliament. But with no obligation to accept the recommendation.
All Canadians drawing a public paycheck swear the same oath to King Chuck.
A so-called nation that is subservient to an English (and Canadian etc) king is not a nation. Canada may be on a long leash but it is definitely a leash. They can't even pass the most basic law or regulation without Chuck's approval.
They depend on Chuck's better nature to respect the customs of leash looseness. One should never trust another's better nature. They may not have one. As a wise man once said.
As Americans we should never pretend that Canada is an independent nation or that the PM for Canada is the country's leader.
John Henry
Thinking on this just now, perhaps president Trump should refuse to deal with Trudeau other than as some kind of under-governor (Does this make him Canada's Mayor?).
Insist on dealing with Chuck directly. Tell Trudeau "I'll negotiate with the organ grinder, not his monkey."
John Henry
"but I admire the way they continue to be what they are and have been -- or at least the way they haven't just followed the rest of the country"
Look into "equalization payments". According to the figures on wikipedia, Quebec and the Maritimes have received these payments every year for the last fourteen years. The western provinces plus Newfoundland and Labrador have received nothing.
Somebody's not pulling their weight up there, and it's not Alberta.
Per Grok these are some of the tariffs charged by Canada on US goods:
Milk: Up to 270%
Cheese: Up to 245%
Butter: Up to 298%
Poultry (e.g., chicken): Up to 238%
Eggs: Up to 163%
Wheat: Up to 94% (varies by type and use, e.g., seed or milling)
Barley (e.g., seed): Up to 57-58%
Vegetables: Tariffs can reach 100% for some fresh produce
Bovine/Meat: Around 26.5% for certain cuts
Sausages: Up to 69.9% (processed meats often face higher rates)
HVAC Equipment: Up to 45% reported for certain units, though this varies by component and origin status
Lumber (Softwood): Around 25% due to long-standing trade disputes, though rates fluctuate with U.S.-Canada softwood lumber agreements
Tobacco Products: 100% or more, depending on type (e.g., cigarettes face high excise duties plus tariffs)
John Henry
It varies over time, but it looks like Newfoundland and Labrador were back on the federal dole in 2023 and 2024 for a smallish equalization payment. Manitoba is getting more. Saskatchewan is complaining about not getting one. Ontario actually gets equalization payments too. Isn't that where all the money and industry are?
Lazarus. The money is in Alberta and Saskatchewan. They both carry the rest of the country.
No because Canada as a confederation is to disparate. And the US would not be able to handle Quebec. To be more clear, it would not want to.
No, you don’t want your kind, underachieving yet demanding relative moving in with you.
A longish read, but well worth the time: The Canadian Question — What should the US do about Canadian decline?
Wow. Not good.
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