December 7, 2024

"Musk is the dynamist, the believer in growth and innovation and exploration as the lodestars of American civilization..."

"[H]e has adopted a more libertarian pose, insisting on the profound wastefulness of government spending and the tyranny of the administrative state. Vance meanwhile is the populist, committed to protect and uplift those parts of America neglected or left behind in an age of globalization.... Despite this contrast, the Musk and Vance worldviews overlap in important ways. Musk has moved in a populist direction on immigration, while Vance has been a venture capitalist and clearly has a strong sympathy for parts of the dynamist worldview, especially its critique of the regulatory state.... And there is modest-but-real convergence between the Muskian 'tech' worldview and Vance’s more 'neo-trad' style of religious conservatism...."

Writes Ross Douthat, in "JD Vance, Elon Musk and the Future of America" (NYT). Douthat thinks dynamism needs populism and populism needs dynamism and, embodied in these 2 men, there's potential for a synthesis into something great, but also a risk of losing "downscale swing voters for the sake of an unrealistic libertarianism."

15 comments:

Drago said...


Having completely missed the dynamics of rising populism merging with tech sector concern over the fascist left/dem/LLR-dem/Neocon out of necessity, the overlords at the NYT direct their in-house "conservative" to deliver a several thousand word article which pretends to describe the political reality on the ground as it supposedly stands today.

1 Selena Zito is worth 5 Douthats.

MikeD said...

Hear, hear ad infinitum!

Kakistocracy said...

Libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. It’s just an adolescent fantasy. The idea that you can have all of the privileges without any of the responsibilities, is exactly the type of thing that adolescents dream about.
Adults should know better. It is our capacity for responsibility that creates those privileges. So when people fail in their responsibilities towards each other. Things always become worse.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Rich wings reality in the first sentence, then describes Democrat’s governance in the third, and then takes up libertarianism’s argument for a couple of sentences, and finally returns to Democrat governance.

phantommut said...

Libertarians are like Jews in that Libertarians are a small minority that gets blamed for the failures of much larger populations' belief systems.

Libertarians are different in that we're willing to let each other swing in the wind because FREEDOM or something.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Wait until they become Nazis 😏

Or haven’t they 🤔

Rocco said...

Lem Vibe Bandit said...
"Wait until they become Nazis"

In the future, everyone will be a Nazi for 15 minutes.

mccullough said...

Douthat is lost in this Brave New World of Tech-Pop

Peachy said...

Corrupt Democrat mob-rule works. Like a shit sandwich washed down with some goat urine... on a platter of Maddow Soviet BS.

Drago said...

You know what "doesn't work in the real world"?

Any and all, without exception" LLR- democratical Rich political/business/cultural "analysis" or predictions.

Again, not a single one. Without exception.

An inevitable result once one, like Rich, for some inexplicable reason, decides the adolescent and moronic Harry Sisson online commentary "model" is the model to adopt.

Robert Cook said...

"Corrupt Democrat mob-rule works. Like a shit sandwich washed down with some goat urine... on a platter of Maddow Soviet BS."

"You know what 'doesn't work in the real world?'
Any and all, without exception LLR- democratical Rich political/business/cultural 'analysis'' or predictions.
Again, not a single one. Without exception."


The US economy, over time, has worked better under Democratic Administrations compare with Republic administrations."

And....

And, so on....

Peachy said...

LOL Cook. Put together by a democrat.

Temujin said...

"...but also a risk of losing "downscale swing voters for the sake of an unrealistic libertarianism."

Not if they're working and their company is booming. Not if their kid's schools have gotten noticeably better and/or, they're given a choice in case their kid's school sucks. Not if their spending dollar goes further, they are seeing more small businesses opening in the previously shuttered strip centers in their areas, and they can fill their car up with gas for less than $50.

gilbar said...

i saw a you tube video, where a wokester PROUDLY claimed, that he was:
a libertarian socialist.

I'll let you think about that for a while

Freder Frederson said...

I can't remember seeing Elon Musk anywhere on the ballot.