"Leaders of Sesame Workshop, the nonprofit corporation that produces the show, hope that children will develop deeper relationships with the characters — and with the show — if they see the same Muppets every episode, really get to know them. But that means downgrading beloved Muppet stars who have been there since the start to supporting roles: Bert and Ernie, Big Bird, the Count and Oscar the Grouch.... Hoping to deepen the connection children feel with the characters, [Kay Wilson Stallings, who was promoted to chief creative development and production officer in 2020] pared the core cast down to just four Muppets: Elmo, Abby Cadabby, Cookie Monster and Grover.... Competing shows featured just a handful of central characters. Too many, she reasoned, and kids would not connect with anyone.... Wilson Stallings was matter of fact about the decision, saying it was based on market research, not nostalgia. 'We’re leaning into the characters that resonate most with our audience,' she said...."
From "Inside ‘Sesame Street’ as it fights to survive/With a lucrative HBO deal ending, the show tackles emotional well-being and remakes itself to win over a new generation" (WaPo)(free-access link).
December 22, 2024
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I was partial to the Swedish Chef myself. (Was that the same show?)
Sessame street should have been allowed to die years ago. Good God, its 2024 and we're still talking about "Bert and Ernie"? They first appeared in 1969. That was 55 years ago. I'm shocked at how fossilized our pop culture is. Its Ok for the over 50 crowd, like me, to live in the past. But the culture - as a whole - should have moved on.
Put a fork in it. The same kind of market research-driven, degreed dumb-dumbs who ruin everything are in charge now. Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave.
Oscar the Grouch should stay. Elmo and Grover are the same reed, different color.
Abby Cadabby, who?
I was a bit too old for Sesame Street as a kid (Captain Kangaroo was my jam), but when my kids were young, my spouse and I tried it out with them. What a terrible show; the “creative” team spent way too much time creating adult subtext which made many parts of the show incomprehensible to, y’know…actual kids. As painful as the Barney show was for an adult to watch…it was written and performed for kids, and our kids loved it for a couple of years each. Sesame Street’s editing also was full of that hyperkinetic quick cut style made infamous by tons of bad TV shows and music videos, probably where that first arose, and I suspect it hurt kids’ attention spans. Just a really bad show.
But the big winner in our house was Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood, which our kids really, really loved; there’s a fabulous profile of Fred Rogers in, of all places, Esquire Magazine (before it turned to crap), by Tom Junod, in the November 1998 issue, and it actually turns to be a respectful, moving portrait of somebody who was who he actually appeared to be. Fred Rogers “got” kids and it all came through on the screen.
But Sesame Street…nah.
I thought the educational breakthrough of SS was recognizing little kids’ short attention spans and structuring the show into a lot of short segments. One would think a big, rotating cast fits right into that.
How many GenXers immediately recognize not just the muppets, but Gordon, Susan, Maria, Bob, Mr Hooper, etc, fifty years later? Or from another set of creators using the same methods,, how many of us can sing the schoolhouse rock songs? (I still use them for my times tables!) Seems like the method worked.
Or is the audience on Ritalin and Adderall now, so they can be treated like tiny Seinfeld watchers?
JSM
Yah, the pink slips usually precede the end. No confidence on whatever left oriented strategy they’re trying…
If you want your kids to see Sesame Street, go to the old episodes, which at least had a sense of originality and an honest quality to their workmanship. To me, it was always a ghetto show, but I'm from the Capt. Kangaroo, Rocky & Bullwinkle, Bugs & Daffy, Three Stooges generation, so what do I know? In my day, kids were on their own, not being spoon fed the focus group crap. We got the leftover shorts from the movie theater days and reruns of series developed for the WWII generation, on static-filled UHF stations.
Wilson Stallings was matter of fact about the decision, saying it was based on market research, not nostalgia.
It must be interesting doing market research in a market of children aged two to ten.
They probably found out who Bert and Ernie voted for.
Grew up on Sesame Street -taught me e to. read. This will be a disaster
More government support is needed to save these icons.
The Electric Company > Sesame Street
My daughter taught herself to read watching Sesame Street way back in the day. I wonder what they’re teaching them now.
Abby was introduced in 2006, so I guess she's there for nostalgic 18-year-olds.
Killing off all of those characters? Who does she think she is, George R. R. Martin?
That horse has left the barn. The kids today can't read anyway.
I am highly skeptical about initiatives where "leaning in" is a core priority. Perhaps that is because I'm in manufacturing and the automotive industry and supply chain. In our business, "leaning in" usually results in a workplace injury.
Wait! I thought Bert and Ernie were gay! Do they really want to risk the wrath of the LGBTQ+ crowd by getting rid of them?
"Bert and Ernie not among them"
Leftist take on this development, "They want to kill all homosexuals."
Wow. Musk is not even on the job yet and Bert & Ernie are getting furloughed, permanently.
Morgan freeman aa easy reader im dating myself
This bitch is killing The Count - ah ah ah ah aaaaaah.
We need to stop allowing females to destroy everything good in our childhoods.
It's like focusing Looney Toons and leaving out the Roadrunner, Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
Get these women out.
I am shocked, shockeder than that guy in Casablanca that there hasn't been one mention in that blurb, on the first page of the article, nor in this comment section of the First Couple of Sesame Street, Kermit and Miss Piggy. Did they move away from Sesame Street, to Texas or Florida maybe?
"We got the leftover shorts from the movie theater days and reruns of series developed for the WWII generation, on static-filled UHF stations."
Amen! We were so lucky.
Kermit and Miss Piggy are primarily known for appearing on The Muppet Show. I'm not sure how much character overlap there was between Sesame Street and The Muppet Show. Same with the Swedish Chef who was mentioned above.
Didn't Miss Piggy lose her senate seat in Wyoming?
After a little checking, I can tell you that there is only ONE character who overlaps on both shows, and that's Kermit the Frog. However, Sesame Workshop does not own the rights to Kermit, unlike most of the other characters on the List of Sesame Street Muppets page.
Jim Henson had a wicked sense of humor, the new team sounds far too serious.
they're getting RID of Bert and Ernie? there's a WORD for that! HOMOPHOBIA!
Hey you guuuuys!!!
I think the idea was for Elmo to be a more childlike character than Grover, but they always read as largely the same to me.
Never mind that previously kids were more than capable of making connections with *all* the characters.
Are marketing departments purely there to destroy brands these days?
"Are marketing departments purely there to destroy brands these days?"
Progressives know what they like. And they know that you should like the same things or there's something wrong with you. In which case, what you like doesn't matter.
Bud Light, anyone?
So the theory is that kids these days are too stupid to keep track of more than four muppets? Good to know, I guess. a
GSpencer:
I just about choked laughing at your comment.
Stop it with the nonprofit shit. The Henson family made millions.
If it isn't on their phones they won't see it anyway.
I also grew up on Captain Kangaroo (and a multitude of local [Seattle] characters], but when raising my kids in the '90s, Sesame Street was NEVER on our TV - already politically correct s**t shoveled into kids brains.
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Thank you for that information, Clyde! Seems something like when a company goes public and eventually the guy who started it all gets bought up and pushed out.
We're on the fast track to Idiocracy when the decision is made to dumb-down Sesame Street.
My kids were never interested in the Elmo-centric version of Sesame Street. Elmo is tolerable in small doses, but when more than half the show is spent watching a baby-talking character who refers to himself in third person like a toddler Bob Dole, it's both boring and irritating.
When i dug up older episodes with Snuffy, Oscar, Harvey Kneeslapper, Don Music, Mumford, Kermit, etc., they ate it up.
The show could consist entirely of reruns from episode 1-50 and achieve its stated goal of "helping children everywhere grow smarter, stronger, and kinder." And those shows would do it probably better than whatever they're doing now.
Give me Oscar the Grouch or give me the control to change the channel.
Weekdays the Captain ruled, but Saturday morning The Banana Splits were the bomb.
Vert der ferk?
- Swedish Chef.
If you have never seen it search for “bert is evil.” Essentially, bert is photoshopped into iconic evil situations. It became a meme when bert was photoshopped into a photo with Osama bin Laden. The photo with Osama and bert was subsequently used by an islamic protester to make a sign for the protest. As a kid bert did seem evil and mean to me compared to easy going earnie.
They will kill Sesame Street. Take a look at the sprawling cast and multiple story lines of any soap opera. The Archers on BBC Radio 4 has been going since 1951. That is 73 years.
Sesame Street and the Electric Company had me reading before I was in kindergarten. I watched it about a decade ago when my own kid was that age and I don't remember seeing much of the actual learning segments. Half of it was the Elmo Show.
Aggie, there is something you sad fundamental to the show and the generations that grew up with it. Sesame Street was about life on the street that kids might encounter. Now if a kid is caught walking on a street, they’ll arrest the parents.
Kids didn't have any trouble with the Muppets. They were all very distinctive, they had their familiar routines, and they got a lot of airtime. It was the humans who were confusing. They'd show up all of a sudden, and the Muppets would all know their names, and then you wouldn't see the same human again for weeks or months. Not good for kids who might be wondering when Dad was going to finally come back with the pack of cigarettes he went out to buy.
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