Said Bernie Sanders, in the new episode of the NYT "Daily" podcast, "Bernie Sanders Says Democrats Have Lost Their Way."
November 15, 2024
"So what happened in this campaign is Donald Trump said to the American people, you are angry. You're really pissed off."
"And I know that, and you're right. And then he gave his explanation and his explanation, which was obviously nonsense and false and racist, et cetera, was that millions and millions of undocumented people were coming across the border. They were invading. America, we're an occupied country. They were taking your jobs, taking your benefits, eating your cats and your dogs. That is why you are hurting. Now, that is a crazy explanation, but it is an explanation. Now you tell me what the Democratic explanation was.... Well, the Democratic explanation was, hey, we have passed some good things, very important things in the Biden administration, which happens to be true.... There was no appreciation — no appreciation — of the struggling and the suffering of millions and millions of working class people.... You know, you can't fight something with nothing. You gotta have an alternative vision. Trump had his vision. It was incorrect, it was dishonest. It was in many cases racist and sexist. He had a vision, he had an explanation. To my view, Democrats really did not."
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Bernie is right Trump had a vision and is a brazen liar when he says it was "racist" -- record numbers of Black and Hispanic voters proves that. Ds still cannot face reality.
I hope the Democrats keep believing the kind of BS Bernie is peddling.
Bernie is completely wrong. He understands very little as a rule, but this time he's 180 degrees out of phase of REALITY.
The Democrats haven't lost their way. They chose their way and stayed on it all the way to the edge of the cliff and over it and all the way down to smash on the rocks far below. November 5 wasn't an accident. It was suicide.
"millions and millions of undocumented people were coming across the border. They were invading. America, we're an occupied country. They were taking your jobs, taking your benefits, eating your cats and your dogs."
Millions and millions of illegal immigrants have come across the border and have by all jurisdictional law and legal precedent invaded (and would be considered invaders if this was any other country than the USA). America is an occupied country, both by elitist idiots and people who don't belong here, who are in fact working jobs that are illegal, are taking benefits that would've otherwise gone to actual citizens, and not only eat cats and dogs, but other pets as well.
Couldn't have said it better Bernie!
$1.8 trillion in new regulatory costs isn't helping
Bernie Sanders is the archetypal boomer communist, the type whose croaking I can't wait to hear reported. Not just an idiot, but a coward (...look what he let his own party do to him) and a traitor as well.
Did Bernie put forth his own vision? Can't argue religion without the vision.
"his explanation, which was obviously nonsense and false and racist, et cetera, was that millions and millions of undocumented people were coming across the border". Do progs believe their own BS? Though it violates the Althouse theorem, it would explain a lot. And lucky for us deplorables. But of course Trump didn't "explain" people's troubles by referring to illegal immigration, and of course as a matter of fact millions of "undocumented" people did cross the border.
Once again the explanation is, Trump voters are stupid, racists and
the Dems have been working hard to help the ungrateful Trump voters but they just didn’t get their message out.
High On Their Own Supply
If they want to be HOTOS
They should never be POTUS.
I was actually rooting Bernie in 2016. I thought he was a sincere leftist who'd shake things up if elected. Sure, I wouldn't like a lot of what he'd do, but given the alternative was Hillary....
Now, Ive become the hate the faker. After throwing 2016, he refused to hit Biden hard in 2020, and is now a sellout. Even worse, he's a liar. The massive influx of immigrants, legal and illegal, lowers wages and hurts the people here already. That's econ 101. Increase supply of labor = lower wages. And help bust unions. Not to mention 3rd world immigration, increases racial tensions, and many of these "salt of the earth" illegals end up committing crimes or going on Food stamps, welfare, etc.
That's why all the Billionaires agree with Bernie: Keep those millions of illegal pouring in. "Socialist bernie" and Billionaires agree. LOL!
And of course, he's big phony on Foreign policy too. Strangely silent on Genocide in Gaza aren't you Bernie? And rather muted on Ukraine, eh what? Like Rand Paul on the Right, Bernie is just all talk and no action.
So, he statement that "there's a problem that needs to be addressed" is actually correct. Its just he's not the one to correct it.
"Why aren't we 50 points ahead!?!" - Bernie & Co.
In my area of the PNW, Democratic candidates were saying that they were working on making the border secure in their advertising. They heard the message. Reversing Trump's border policies was not the only terrible decision visited upon us by the Biden-Harris administration, but it resonated with a lot of the populace.
Just a figment of the imagination of all those deplorable bigots, clinging to guns and God.
Sure, Bernie. In Vermont, that sells.
Nothing can or will bring home the vast calamity of Trump's election but the actual results that will issue from Trump's appointments and policies he and they will bring down on all our heads. Our only hope is that Trump is as lazy and ineffective as he was in his first term in actually accomplishing his promises. It's easier for him just to claim he did something than actually to do it, and that has been a hallmark of his career. After all, he's really in it for the scam, to walk away at the end with filthy (foreign) lucre in hand.
Didn't he used to be an immigration restrictionist himself? For the workers! What a phony.
Wow, Trump really broke Robert Cook. 😶
The same people who are pissed off that American voters chose Trump are the ones that are PO'd that Trump is doing what he said he would do once elected.
That includes nominating a cabinet that pisses those people off.
Those people can just piss off.
I'm fine with Tulsi and Matt and Pete and anyone else that our President elect wants to appoint. They could never do as bad a job as the present people have done.
That rotten constituency Bernie! You should go ice fishing on thin ice…
Bernie with his millions, pretending to be friend of the working-class folks. Phew! He got the Democratic side sorta right, about passing stuff important to Democrats, catering to the rich guys and ignoring the working-class peoples. Fundamental problem here for Democrats is that they like the huge campaign contributions from the corporations, the fed unions, the AWFLs and their spouses, but only pander to the working-class with empty words and virtue-signaling lectures.
It was incorrect, it was dishonest. It was in many cases racist and sexist. He had a vision, he had an explanation.
Biden et al were motivated by Diversity: racism, sexism, etc.? Yes, they were. Also, American Civil Liberties Unburdened, Special Peculiar Liberal Corporate interests, Catastrophic Anthropogenic Immigration Reform, human rites, redistributive change, Democratic gerrymandering, etc. The Iranian-backed genocide in Gaza, the Western-backed Spring in Ukraine, and black lives don't matter in Sudan... slavery in China, boys in girls' spaces, faces, excess murder, rape-rape, rape, and other criminal progress exercised with liberal license in sanctuary states. The "burden' of evidence aborted and sequestered in darkness to protect rabid Diversitists operating for and non-profit.
These people are LITERALLY taking benefits (Obamaphones, pre-loaded debit cards, free housing in hotels paid for by taxpayers).
First thing Eric Adams did after Trump was elected was cut off the debit cards.
Bernie Sanders is full of shit. Trump didn't make this stuff up. It's in the frigging newspapers every day.
AMERICA.
FIRST.
ASSHOLES.
Bernie Sanders got a free million-dollar lake house - his THIRD - from Hillary Clinton for running as her opponent in a fake Democrat primary in 2016. It was 100% fake from the get go.
But this time, he got nothing.
If you're wondering why he's butthurt about the primary process this time around.
I have a simple rule: Once you play the race card, I assume that you have no coherent argument and I will no longer listen to what you have to say.
Democrats told us that men could get pregnant and little boys could decide to cut their wieners off and if we disagreed we would lose our jobs.
F*CK. THAT.
That is not a winning message. That is a message that will get you thrown out of office and that's the BEST outcome you better hope for because we want to do very violent things to you and are holding back. But we will do it if push comes to shove.
In my area of the PNW as well. It’s all lies as not one of them had done anything of substance. It’s a bit like when Donk candidates say they “support the 2nd Amendment”. It’s absolutely meaningless, but it says something hopeful about the zeitgeist that they felt the need to lie.
Another lying scumbag government parasite popping off delusional horseshit. Sanders is a full of shit asshole.
>>his explanation, which was obviously nonsense and false and racist, et cetera
That "et cetera" gives the game away. He knows that it's all just boilerplate crap that the D's repeat every 4 years.
Maybe if they call us racists even more next time....that will bring us over to their side.
It is funny how pro forma his comments are.
Racist? Sexist? I’m done here. Give the check to my manager.
As with the Harris candidacy, the Donks are the prisoners of their own bullshit.
By all means lefties, please continue to learn nothing.
Trump had his vision.
He did.
It was incorrect,
Politically incorrect, yes, but otherwise no, it wasn’t.
It was dishonest.
No it wasn’t.
It was in many cases racist and sexist.
The black people and Latinos and women who voted for a trump think you’re full of it, Bernie.
He had a vision, he had an explanation. To my view, Democrats really did not..
Yes, Trump had — has — a vision. But wrong about the Democrats — their vision was along the lines of “You think you got it bad now? Just wait!”
Kook was busted long before Trump.
I just copied that part of Bernie's statement and was going to say the same thing. Now I don't have to. History throughout the age have proved that if you allow "peaceful migrants" to come in to your country, and allow them to keep their original identity- eventually they overthrow the existing establishment. They're invaders, initially, just peaceful. I think it's fair to argue a lot of the South American immigrants aren't even peaceful.
Poor Cookie. Poor Bernie. The Workers of the World finally united — behind Donald Trump! People who work for a living (does not include Cookie) want nothing to do with Bernie or Cookie or Karl Marx.
...There was no appreciation — no appreciation — of the struggling and the suffering of millions and millions of working class people....
He got that part right, but the rest is one yuge crock of shit!
The liberal world order and the revelation of its insanity and inefficacy will continue apace along with its eventual collapse. We haven't even seen the best parts yet. Once the momentum of its collapse really hits home people like Bernie will be dead and his acolytes will cease making death threats and throwing shade on social media and begin the violent street/color revolution they really want...you've tasted a toned-down version of this already several times since skittles-lover Trayvon Martin.
They're unable to learn from this. Not only has this crested, we're nowhere near the summit. Keep your swords bright.
Trillions in damage to our social order through neglectful immigration is ok with these old farts. I expect "the people" will go crazy when the bills start coming due. With Trump in charge, those costs will be made very public.
Bernie Sanders was always a fake grifter, and I'm astonished that you of all people would fall for his obvious schtick. I think his miraculous pro-Gaza "anti-establishment" pose is the most ridiculous switch since Thomas Friedman pretended to become an environmentalist. Well why not?! Everything else he's done is absolutely shot!
There are reasons no one has described the invasion funding.
Quaestor: 90 degrees out of phase.
Quaestor: 90 degrees out of phase.
Also, there's still no appreciation of what the average American is going through.
Ah Bernie--spouting nonsense like a android Vesuvius. There's a reason why the Dims were so scared of him that they all fell in line behind Senile Old Joe in 2016.
BernIs is forever nothing but a corrupt dirty filthy communist.
Bernie only half gets it. Yeah we are angry about the economy but just as angry at being called a racist every day day. We want controlled immigration and do not give a rats what color they are.
The drug cartels are laundering to the DNC via ActBlue small donation money laundering. So Democrats had no choice but to open the border. The drug cartels are making BILLIONS trafficking humans.
I just got here and haven't read the comments, so maybe someone has already suggested a 'fight something with nothing' tag?
Bernie's idea of working people is Chad and Buffy, who met at Harvard and left their high pressure jobs on Wall Street to move to Vermont, raise llamas, make artisanal cheese, and write childrens books.
Lucien, it's reality I'm talking about, not a sine wave.
The corrupt left cannot stop calling Trump a "racist" and a "misogynist". So so so Tired and lazy and lame.
LOSE HARDER, ASSHOLES.
Hey Bernie, Democrats ordered a SWAT team to kill a squirrel. It really takes the wind out of countering the dogs and cats stuff.
Trump has been called worse things by better people.
Well, it's good to have lots of trust funds...
The Washington-based Democratic party has become the party of wealth concentration. The median American family has not been able to keep up with the Joneses of the Upper East Side for several decades while their economic insecurity has rapidly grown. Health care is a source of insecurity, not security, while the prospect of children someday being able to buy a house in a nice neighborhood as diminished by the year. Ruchir Shamar's column last week dramatically showed how the "good life" has been concentrated in the top 20 percent while the bottom 40 percent have been diminished while the middle languishes.
The US economic boom is a mirage
https://www.ft.com/content/8af2ad3b-dca0-4add-bbc8-55fc28184f34
Rana Foroohar's column last week had some great insights into America now following the PE model while excess leverage runs wild (guaranteeing yet another Washington mediated financial crisis). Trump will cede the entire global shift towards green industry to Chinese leadership and as this sector takes hold in the Global South while the advanced economies wall themselves off behind protectionism to the biggest industrial shift of this century. The discontent is just beginning. When America goes Peronista, then the next Argentina can't be far behind.
America Inc’s new CEO https://www.ft.com/content/d3b6af49-f6fe-4cd7-905b-1ba853b002d5
The career of Bernie Sanders is powerful testimony to the hypocrisy, credulousness and foolishness of the people of Vermont. Why don't they try Socialism in One State? Then we'll see what True Socialism really looks like. All that trust fund money should be redistributed.
"Poor Cookie. Poor Bernie. The Workers of the World finally united — behind Donald Trump! People who work for a living (does not include Cookie) want nothing to do with Bernie or Cookie or Karl Marx."
It truly is so very magnificently perfect that the working class has coaliesced almost fully behind Trump while the utterly exposed fake wannabe Parisian cafe-beret-wearing marxist "Rebel" against the man" Cookie turned out to be just another NPC foot soldier.
It's so perfect really.
LLR-democratical Rich quoting others: "The discontent is just beginning. When America goes Peronista, then the next Argentina can't be far behind."
LOL
Can you beieve this crap?
The "next Argentina" was at Mar a Lago last night and hugging Trump as the steps taken to rescue Argentinian society begins to really take hold there.
Thanks for playing Abacus Boy! Again!
Trump gave a true diagnosis and has a Rx to cure a dying patient.
you cannot fool Musk, RFKjr, Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Rogan and me with the crap Bernie slanders Our leader with.
It says something then the Senates resident communist says the Democrats have done too far left.
After all, he's really in it for the scam, to walk away at the end with filthy (foreign) lucre in hand.
... He claimed without evidence.
In reality, Trump's net worth has gone down by something like $1.5 billion thanks to his service to the nation. Few have ever given up more for their country in monetary terms, and he damn near sacrificed his life too.
I think a big part of Bernie’s scam is that, I think, his wife “owns” an advertising agency and the agency got a commission on all the presidential campaign ads. Bernie is very rich considering that he’s a communist. Hypocrite.
Isn’t Bernie Jewish? Jews who hate Israel are losers.
People are unfair calling Bernie a hypocrite for being a millionaire Socialist with three homes, all earned from government jobs.
That is what Marxism is all about. Workers of the world unite ... to support and enrich their masters in government.
I suspect that Cook knows that. He will finally become wealthy (and gain all the power and respect he truly deserves) when we become a socialist Utopia and he is elevated to one of our masters.
The Ds are like the NTSB guys….they’re looking at the wreckage, waiting on it to cool enough so they can dig out the black box and see what went wrong.
The Ds are like the NTSB guys….they’re looking at the wreckage, waiting on it to cool enough so they can dig out the black box and see what went wrong.
Note Rogan was a Berno Bro because he seems so nice.
"You know, you can't fight something with nothing."
But Bernie is willing to try.
Bernie says, that Trump told the American people that we are pissed off. No, Bernie, wetold Trump that we are pissed off. And you are a prime example of exactly what we are pissed off about. You have never done anything of value in your entire sickening existence, but somehow you and your tax-whore wife are filthy rich.
To paraphrase Dylan, You've gotta rob someone. Who did you rob, Bernie? You reeking sack of shit?
Fuck the Socialist nutter who now owns at least 3 houses. Give up two of them to the illegals you are fine with invading the country, and lying that they aren't. Maybe it's time to send a 20 or so buses of them up to his houses in Vermont. How about giving up your paycheck Bernie?? Help the American people you claim to love so much.
And BTW, Bernie, it certainly is true that “millions and millions” of immigrants have entered this country illegally. We have an immigrant on videotape cooking cat carcasses on a backyard grill. In Chicago the mayor was open about taking benefits from the black community to give to the “undocumented” immigrants. Ditto in New York and Philly, except the respective mayors were a bit less obvious and a bit more circumspect. The workers at the lowest end of the economic ladder know why everyone at a construction site speaks Spanish even if Bernie doesn’t — and thinks it’s racist to point out.
Bernie’s economic ideas come out of the 19th century, and he may not believe in videotape or the Internet. Too bad, Bernie, but it isn’t the late 19th century — it’s the early 21st.
Back in the 1970s people were setting up communes all over Vermont. One of them was meticulously documented by Kate Daloz in the book We are as Gods available via the Althouse Amazon portal. And buried inside that book is a story about a young Bernie Sanders who joined that commune, but was thrown out because he kept shirking his fair share of the chores.
Scratch a Marxist, and you’ll always find someone who doesn’t want to do their fair share of the chores.
They all think that right up to the point the rat bastards really in charge put a bullet in their head.
Trump will cede the entire global shift towards green industry
ROFL.
VW is shifting investment dollars to fund further ICE development
His announcement that VW would invest a third of its planned EV funds in ICE tech is a reversal of previous statements and the company’s stated goal to only sell EVs in Europe by 2033. It’s also a change from the automaker’s estimates last year, which pegged EVs at 80 percent of its overall sales by the end of the 2020s.
Antlitz’s announcement comes when several other automakers have delayed or retargeted EV investments as buyer demand grows slower than many expected. Ford, GM, and others have also backtracked on hybrids, committing to developing new models to satisfy buyers’ desires for more affordable fuel-efficient vehicles instead of expensive EVs.
Some VW-owned brands are watching sustainable fuels, with Porsche operating an e-fuel facility in South America. Bentley has delayed its 2030 goal to go EV-only by three years, and VW’s move shows that the combustion engine will live on longer than originally planned, even in EV-friendly Europe.
I voted Bernie in the open Texas primary for president in 2020 for bragging purposes among local Austin soppy liberals. And to toss one vote for chaos into the primary. Had I been registered Democrat, I might have tried voting more often for him, again as a vote for chaos among Dems. Now I find myself appreciating his denial that his party had a message. It certainly did have a message, and that message was rejected soundly. The message, once again (as Bernie found in 2016, against Hillary; as the country found over the past 4 years with Biden's puppet presidency; as voters saw with the Harris elevation to candidate) voters don't run the Party, the Party runs everything and voters should shut up and listen.
Not a good platform for a representative republic, or even a democracy, that kind of authoritarian boot in the face. Get stuffed, Bernie, your party has put you under a pile of manure since 2016 and you keep digging around, looking for a pony.
Hah ! Bernie ,Bernie, Bernie, an old commie scold. Another liberal leech who complains about capitalism ,when convenient, but practices capitalism when he profits personally. How telling. You don't have any credibility, particularly after selling out to the DNC and the hildabeast in 2016. Of course, that's what commies do though, isn't it. How did your wife's tenure at that college work out ? Most would note that driving it into bankruptcy isn't what would be called a win. Again though, that's what commies typically do. So there's that.
Why it's almost as if "the working class" were intelligent enough to know where their best interests lie.
Anger is supposed to be a bad thing and it's never the liberals who are angry. It's always the other side. That attitude's gotten tiresome. It's time for liberals and progressive to own up to their own anger and realize that what they call "anger" doesn't invalidate the other side's arguments or appeal.
“It does not make a lot of sense to me to bring hundreds of thousands of those workers into this country to work for minimum wage and compete with Americans kids.” -- Bernie Sanders, 2013
“Open borders? No, that’s a Koch brothers' proposal. ... I think from a moral responsibility, we’ve got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don’t do that by making people in this country even poorer.” -- Bernie Sanders, 2015
Bernie has evolved -- or rather, devolved -- over time.
When does Bernie! get his fourth dacha?
And then he gave his explanation and his explanation, which was obviously nonsense and false and racist
Bullshit
millions and millions of undocumented people were coming across the border. They were invading. America, we're an occupied country. They were taking your jobs, taking your benefits, eating your cats and your dogs. That is why you are hurting. Now, that is a crazy explanation,
Actually, it's a true and correct explanation. In the last two+ years native Americans, by which I mean people born in America, have on net lost jobs. ALL job growth over that time period has been jobs going to people not born in America
The Biden Admin has showed billions of dollars of benefits on illegal alien invaders (including the ones they invited in), taking that money from the rest of us and effectively impoverishing us.
And they have been eating cats and dogs, that was already established.
Now you tell me what the Democratic explanation was.... Well, the Democratic explanation was, hey, we have passed some good things, very important things in the Biden administration, which happens to be true
Only if you're a scumbag parasite Democrat on the gravy train
There was no appreciation — no appreciation — of the struggling and the suffering of millions and millions of working class people
Democrat policies are designed to only help activists and foreigners. The working class people are neither
You know, you can't fight something with nothing
Which was what I was repeatedly pointing out during the last weeks of the campaign: All they had was "hate Trump". But that's all they COUDL have, because Harris is an idiot, Walz is a commie, and the Democrats' are owned by lunatics, so there are no actual policies they could take to the voters and say "vote for us because".
So they lost
Folks who talk like Cookie strike me as truly believing that come the revolution, they will be one of the well connected nomenklatura running the operation. What they don't seem to realize is that, as Uncle Joe Stalin put it, they are just useful fool apparatchiks who will serve the revolution by working the graveyard shift in the Lithium mines.
You are right, I will forever hate the Democrats, as the party that murdered Peanut and Fred! Even if FEMA refuses to help me!!
Or Sanders was implying blacks and hispanics are also racists.
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