November 10, 2024

"If you’ve heard about delaying your morning coffee, the cognitive benefits of creatine supplements, the popularity of cold plunges..."

"... or the stamina-boosting effects of moderate exercise, you know what I’m talking about. These ideas can fall somewhere on the spectrum of scientifically untested to scientifically pointless. Sometime last year, I realized that bro science was no longer just for the bros. A friend asked if I’d heard of Andrew Huberman, a professor of neurobiology at Stanford who hosts a popular health and science podcast called 'Huberman Lab.' He’d heard about it from his mom. Bro science has always run parallel to big wellness brands aimed at women, like Goop....  If you’re worried about your husband or your mom getting medical advice from a muscled guy with a mic, let me explain something: Being into wellness isn’t always about health.... In fact, wellness is probably healthiest when it’s treated like a hobby, or even as a spectator sport."

Writes Ashwin Rodrigues, in "Bro Science Is No Longer Just for the Bros" (NYT).

For more of the NYT fascination with Andrew Huberman, here's a piece by Jessica Grose from last August: "'Huberman Husbands,' 'Bro Diets' and the 'Masculine' Branding of Fitness Culture":
My husband was amassing bits of advice from Andrew Huberman.... He’s sort of everywhere: In a June article titled “The Dad Canon,” defining millennial fathers in 2023, my newsroom colleague Joseph Bernstein dubbed Huberman “Goop for him.”...

That "Dad Canon" link also goes to the NYT. Apparently, every 3 months the NYT needs to inform its readers that Andrew Huberman is out there influencing men, and it's like Goop. 

27 comments:

Dave Begley said...

Has anyone in the Althouse community tried rucking? Rucking with an R.

Jamie said...

An elderly man in my former PA neighborhood used to walk slowly through the 'hood (which is quite hilly, to be fair) in old-fashioned hiking boots, carrying an apparently full backpack. I always just assumed he was training for the Appalachian Trail ... but he never, you know, disappeared for a stretch of weeks or months actually to DO the trail, so maybe he was just rucking.

Kevin said...

Goop is like Andrew Huberman for Tim Walz.

Mr Wibble said...

I used to ruck regularly, especially when I lived in California. There was a loop of rural road right by my house that was two miles around farmland and was great on a moonlit night. I'd start up again, but that would require getting a new rucksack and boots, and I just don't want to spend the money.

Mr Wibble said...

Bro Science and Redpillism are two aspects of the same phenomenon that gave us Trump: an observation that the world was not in accordance with how it was described by the so-called "experts" and a rejection of their guidance in favor of trying experimentation.

Bro Science - Cardio and whole grains? Doesn't seem to work. Try red meat, cold showers, and weight-lifting.

Red Pill - Don't listen to what women say they want, observe the type of man that they actually chase. Try playing a bit of an arrogant jerk. Be confident.

Politics - Voting for the "respectable" candidate doesn't win. The commonly accepted beliefs of the political class have made things worse over the past twenty years. Let's try the arrogant ass who rejects conventional wisdom.

Howard said...

Been following Huberman for a long time. Started rucking this summer. I have an old backpack and I placed three full one gallon jugs of water in it total weight is 30 lb.

Bro science poor health and longevity as a spectator sport a tourists approach. You get more out of it if you actually try what they recommend for a month and see if it sticks. The other health and longevity bro scientist that I pay attention to our doctor Peter Attia and Rhonda Patrick. For weightlifting I stick with Mike Isratel.

3 months ago I ended my retirement and took a full time job in retail which is extremely physically demanding. It's like KP duty everyday. On your feet for 8 hours picking up and caring heavy boxes stocking shelves.. that's my own bro science health and longevity plan.

Tina Trent said...

Grocery store work is mad hard. I liked it, but only at night. Then I could listen to people like Peter Attia while literally running from aisle to aisle. No customers are the best customers.

Do you think they even have men’s bathrooms at the Times anymore?

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

I'm sure they do, Tina. But you can rest assured there is't a urinal anywhere in the building.

wild chicken said...

Red meat is hard on the kidneys. But bros don't care about that. It's all about the here and now.

Charlie Currie said...

I find Huberman to be a supplement/gadget pitchman for the wealthy, or wanna be wealthy. I would venture that his audience leans left, and maybe substantial left.

Charlie Currie said...

He says without evidence.

Kirk Parker said...

What are "old-fashioned" hiking boots?

Curious George said...

3 gallons of water is 25 pounds.

Koot Katmandu said...

Ha. 70 year old carnivore here. Huberman not not for me. Too many carbs for me. I take some creatine. Cold plunges neve YIkes. I sometimes do sauna after a work out. Work out 6 days a week. -yoga-strength-platies-Hit. I am almost always the only male in my yoga and platies groups. You guys are missing out. They do wonders for mobility, balance, and strength. Especially your core.

tommyesq said...

The "stamina-boosting effects of moderate exercise" doesn't strike me as "scientifically untested to scientifically pointless." Bear the stupidity of this statement when evaluating the author's other thoughts and opinions in this piece.

Kai Akker said...

--- Apparently, every 3 months the NYT needs to inform its readers that Andrew Huberman is out there influencing men, and it's like Goop.

The NYT creates a fantasy world and then reports on it as though it were real. It's a circular strategy that keeps its customers rolling over that same treadmill repeatedly. Those who like it will remain. Most others will move on. This was not always true, but Punch started it in certain coverage areas, and Pinch developed it to the max in all directions. Expecting anything other than that fundamental objective to determine the published material dooms the NYT reader to disappointment and boredom from the endlessly similar tropes.

Howard said...

That's right and the backpack weighs 5 lb

RCOCEAN II said...

Ashwin - what a crazy name.

Anthony said...

I started taking creatine about 3 years ago; works for me. Muscles don't really ever get that burning sort of tired feeling even after 90 minutes in the weight room (or at the start). Cold plunges, nah. I tried taking a cold shower after working out for a couple of weeks to see if it would keep my skin from drying out and itching during the Winter, but it did nothing. And I eat mostly whatever I want, in moderation.. Heck, that's mainly why I exercise so much, so I can eat and drink whatever I want! (Also I trail-run and/or bike and/or swim every afternoon)

After 40+ years of various exercising, I have determined that nobody really knows anything, apart from obvious trivialities (heavy weights = bulk, lighter weights+more sets/reps = more definition). Have of everything I've ever read or heard contradicts the other half. I try stuff, if it works I work it into my routine. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another, and what worked for me 30 years ago might not now.

Probably why I'm not rich and famous. *sigh*

Anthony said...

('Half' of everything. . . . )

Lazarus said...

Another fake phenomenon discovered by the Times. An earlier generation of men may have been too busy working to follow fads and trends and left that up to the sort of women who follow Goop and read the Times style pages.

Anyway, maybe I'll give this rutting a try. It sounds like fun.

MikeD said...

I "ruck" five (5) days a week off road. I'm in my 80's and the "ruck" is an oxy generator.

Gospace said...

I don't know about the cognitive benefits of creatine, though I've read a few threads about that very subject at threadreaderapp. I can tell you I take a scoop daily. I discovered years ago that if I'm going to use muscles I don't normally use, that taking creatine before would leave me with tired muscles, but more importantly, not sore muscles. It does help build muscles. I read years ago that some heart doctors recommend a daily dose. The heart is, after all, a muscle, one that works constantly, doesn't have a day off.

The thing with the touted benefits of most supplement is- you have to rely on statistical studies. Moet of the time, you cannot actually tell if you are benefiting from them. Creatines muscle benefits? Most can see it, or feel it... The cognitive benefits? Studies seem to show some, but how would most notice it? It doesn't appear to be that large an effect.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Andrew Huberman almost got cancelled by an "anonymous" woman. Let Joe Rogan talk about it. and sound conspiratorial.

mccullough said...

The cold plunge might be beneficial to a professional athlete. But most people don’t have the time or the ability to work out that hard. Your body shouldn’t get inflammation from a workout unless you’re a gladiator.

mccullough said...

The cold plunge might be beneficial to a professional athlete. But most people don’t have the time or the ability to work out that hard. Your body shouldn’t get inflammation from a workout unless you’re a gladiator.

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