Sullivan: "We don't really know how gays vote.... That's how GLBTQIA+ people vote.... The vast majority — 40% of that — are bisexual women, many of whom are in relationships with straight guys. So we don't know. I'm sure it was a big majority. I'm not sure including a big bunch of of of young women in that will distort it somewhat. I wish we could have polling of gay men and lesbians. Why can't we? Why are we now forced into this bleh?"
I'm using the letters b-l-e-h to represent a Sullivan vocalization that seemed to express the opinion that the GLBTQIA+ grouping is annoyingly large and indistinct. He seems to think gay men and lesbians should be polled as a distinct group and that their opinion is more meaningful than the amorphous grouping that sweeps in the many young woman who call themselves bisexual and may very well be living the most privileged sort of life. Of course these women tend to vote Democratic, but did gay men continue to vote Democratic? Sullivan groups gay men and lesbians together, but why not demand separate polling there too. There is an important difference in the voting of men and women, and why wouldn't that difference also show up among gay people?
ADDED: Tim Dillon says that trans people ought to identify as Republicans:
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The difference in voting of men and women is why women didn't have the vote. It brings down the system eventually.
Sullivan has previously made the point I hear from other gays and lesbians, they find it distasteful to be grouped with the TIAQI+ alphabet. Now that they can marry, settle down, even be celebrated by corporate America, their outlook has become much more conservative.
Gay men are SO in charge of the United States that they produced a video of one of them getting it up the keister on the floor of the Senate Judiciary Committee meeting room where we select Supreme Court Justices.
They then released that video. At least one of the men was clearly identifiable. The identity of the swordsman was never released. I highly suspect it was a United States Senator.
Neither were arrested. That's how in charge gays are.
You realize they're calling for further subdivision of two or three percent of the population, right?
Tyson has the affect of a phony. He seems as credible as gas station sushi. (I stole that one from a post on X.)
They needed a black Bill Nye. That's all NDT is.
On what issues would gay and lesbian people vote differently (different ratio) than heterosexual people since same-sex marriage is now a norm?
Encouraging that Democrats still insist on dividing us by race gender etc. It was clearly a losing strategy, and I'm glad they want to continue it.
Seriously, no one cares. and adding more letters to GLBTQIA+ doesn't change that.
If these wanna be totalitarians had their way, we would all have an id with such nonsense on it. The icing on the cake is the fact that they are arguing about 'problems' they themselves created.
"The vast majority — 40% of that — are bisexual women, many of whom are in relationships with straight guys."
OK. I suppose Sullivan has a point. If you want to know how "Gays" voted, get rid of the Bi-sexuals. I mean when a Bi-sexual votes, is she voting as a Lesbian or Straight women?
You can sorta tell how many "Gays" voted Democrat by looking at the Big cities like SF, Boston, NY, LA, etc. where they tend to cluster. And that shows a massive support for Harris and Democrats.
You have to include men who don't have jobs or land in this group. The issue is the acceptance of responsibility and execution of duty.
There are both men and women who give no positive contribution ti the future. This is the dividing line you are looking for.
Dillon: “kind of conservative and heartless” . . . bleh
I stopped there. Thanks but no thanks
86-14, 80-20, 70-30, 60-40- take your pick on gay men but one of those is right.
Clearly, there is opportunity in marketing to the trans community in Ponte Vedra. That's where the intrinsic real estate genius that is Tim Dillon speaks to me.
* added to my 2025 list of "trends to invest in".
Are 'facts' still what the 'fact checkers' say it is, or did that also change with Trump coming back 🤔
Bill Maher is still on television somewhere?
This is about a trying to interpret a skewed statistical distribution versus the essential reproductive function of sex. People who prioritize nonstandard (non-straight) sex are always functional outliers, and thereby hard to interpret versus the common and predictable average. For reference, skewed distributions:
https://statisticsbyjim.com/basics/skewed-distribution/
Non-reproducing humans (gay, lesbian, transgender, asexual, infertile, self-sterilized) fall on the skinny statistical tail of humans throughout history. In not making (many or any) babies they have here-and-now lives that can, tend to, or must focus themselves and the adult social sphere rather than high cost children that require a lot of input before they pay it back (e.g., support children now -> have support from adult children in old age).
As such, any government policy that favors children, emphasizes delayed gratification...seems not so interesting...
I believe if the alphabet soup, LGBTQ+, accepts pedos, we are going to see defections.
new initials, LG = legacy gay (male and female homosexual)
Isn't trans ideology in some ways hostile to gay people, especially in the formative years?
For example, a male child at a young age expresses uncertainty about his sexuality, as I would suspect many gay kids do.
But with gender ideology running rampant in the schools and elsewhere, he or she might be swept-up into being neutered at a young age before he would even know he's a male homosexual. By then it would be to late to reverse course.
Don't gays see that as a threat?
Hard to believe that someone, somewhere, didn’t poll each of these specific subgroups, isn’t it?
Now I'm kind of wondering whether the sex lube meant for straights is the same as the sex lube meant for gays.
Or maybe it's like Secret deodorant. Strong enough for a man but made for a woman.
Something like that.
Already are. Sullivan might have other reasons to vote Democrat but he is pretty vehemently anti-transing kids.
Do bisexuals get to vote twice? Probably if they're Democrats.
I doubt there would be a meaningful gender-preference gap in voting if you corrected for other demographic factors, such as being a parent vs. not, living in a city or not, being a homeowner or not, being married or not. IOW, while the great majority of gays probably vote D, I bet you could account for nearly all of the difference by looking at those other factors instead. IOOW, I doubt that being homosexual per se makes a person much more likely to vote D.
It's true, polls and surveys lump them all together as LGBTQ. In my volunteer gig not one client said yes to the LGBTQ question.
We're so behind the times here in Montana. Or just old.
The media are so full of shit with their Bs data and percentages.
The left must continue to slather themselves with bullshit in order to stay sane.
Forget all the bullshit. As many have pointed out, it's "normal vs. crazy." Normals have won a temporary victory.
Are there Gs and Ls any more? I thought they were all Q now.
"If these wanna be totalitarians had their way, we would all have an id with such nonsense on it."
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just go with "White males" and "Everybody else"? That seems to be what the left is working towards.
The pander issue. Which party will pander to them?
The only thing we should care about is how the “IA+” (whatever the hell that means) vote. Reporters need to constantly ask candidates how they are going after the IA+ vote. What’s the strategy to get more IA+’s to the polls.
Nebraska state Senator Megan Hunt calls herself the Bi Queen. It is an essential part of her political identity. She also wanted to trans her daughter and make Medicaid to pay for it. Well, she’s been in a relationship with a man for about a year, but she won’t drop the bi label. She likes dick, but the bi identity is very important for her politically. The Biden State Department gave her a free trip to Ireland. That’s how the Dem party grift works.
BTW, the law saved her daughter from mutilation.
The queer voting distribution of males and females in the transgender spectrum reveals the sincere bigotry esconced in Critical Diversity (i.e. bloc) Theory. #HateLovesAbortion
Women, transgenders (e.g. homosexuals, bisexuals), for that matter, have always had the right to vote. The Constitution does not exercise liberal license to indulge Diversity (e.g. sexist, racist) dogma on order to prosecute affirmative discrimination.
The celebration of albinophobia and abortive ideation is novel in modern times, but common in progressive sects of ancient religions, and in left-wing ideological democracies.
Democrazis.
That was my first exposure to Tim Dillon. Reminiscent of Giles Coren. Bits of actual insight smooshed in with amusingly counterintuitive overstatements. And pathetic reachouts to his left pals with assurances that he is "against Gaza". He'll keep turning out the product.
He seems to think gay men and lesbians should be polled as a distinct group and that their opinion is more meaningful than the amorphous grouping
The G's hate the L's
The L's hate the G's
They both hate the B's
What are the mentally ill T's doing in the car?
WHAT THE HELL ARE the Q's?
Dave Chappelle LGBTQ car ride
is there STILL television? as opposed to streaming?
Don't gays see that as a threat?
if they Don't, they should
chemical castration ("puberty blockers") don''t Just sterilize, if given to a boy before puberty, they result in a micro penis.. what gay man WANTS to be buggered by a micro penis?
well, ignoring sex preference;
Married Men went Trump
Single Men went Trump
Married Women went Trump
Single Women went Harris
My guess is the same sort of skew went for LG's too
"Divide and Conquer" backfired.
I worked in senior care for a while some years ago, and one of my clients was a gay man who had been married and had kids, and after he came out, his wife and kids cancelled him. He never heard from them again. He had congestive heart failure and was on meds that kept him alive, but he passed a few months after I started working with him, without any resolution. Yes, homosexuality tends to work against reproduction, but it's not a total bar, depending on the timing.
"We are incapable, as a species, of understanding risk."
That statement that Neil made is completely false. Some people don't understand risk but some people actually do. We would never have survived as a species if we didn't have the capacity to understand risk. The problem with Neil is that he is arrogant beyond belief and sees most people as stupid, uneducated, knuckle draggers. And once he's made up his mind on an issue, he refuses to change it based on new data.
Neil is part of the reason why modern science is in trouble. He is a scientist who will not allow himself to think scientifically. He prefers living life by simply having a collection of basic "facts" instead of indulging in critical thinking.
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