Said Donald Trump at his rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan just now.
If you think his convention speech went long, this speech was half an hour longer. It clocked in at two hours.
The speech wasn't just long. He was talking quite fast. Fast and crisply enunciated. Strong. I had the feeling maybe the brush with death had heightened his sense that he needs to compress his energy and do more and more. At the end, when it was time to walk out, he seemed to want to linger, as if the rally was life itself, and he didn't want to leave.
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"Last week, I took a bullet for democracy."
He's not wrong...
"“Last week, I took a bullet for democracy.”"
He is giving them no space to move without running into a wall of love and unity.
Who provided security at the rally?
How many 5' secret service agents were there to protect the president?
I'm sure social media and news stations will be full of comments about how the speech was too long. All the comments will be made by people who would not go to a Trump rally by choice.
The Democrat Party has no idea how close it came to extinction last week. Within inches. If Donald Trump were dead right now, which the Secret Service tried to LET HAPPEN by watching this shooter take 8 shots before Jack Ruby'ing him ... the streets would be running red. Their convention center would have been burnt to the ground with all of them in it.
They have no idea how close they came.
If you drive 4 hours and wait all day, you don't want to hear a 15 minute speech.
Did CNN provide live coverage this time?
Dude1394 asked: "How many 5' secret service agents were there to protect the president?"
The next time Donald Trump was seen in public, he had 15 agents surrounding him.
Not one was a 5'1-inch obese DEI hire.
Or a woman.
Aggie asked: "Did CNN provide live coverage this time?"
No. They didn't. As you know, CNN has never given Donald Trump live coverage of any of his campaign events. They call that "platforming." And their viewers don't want to "platform" Donald Trump.
Except 1 event. One single event they went live on.
It was the one where he was shot. That one, they somehow knew to be live at. Because they'd been tipped off by their co-conspirators in the Democrat Party that planned Donald Trump's assassination that they should cover that one live. MSNBC also covered it live. Only one MSNBC has ever covered live.
They tried to murder Donald Trump, on live television. And they think they are going to get away with it, too.
Not as long as Edward Everett’s speeches.
I personally don’t care for a long speech. But one thing Trump is doing, regardless of the content of his speeches, is proving that he has 100x the energy and stamina that Biden has. And while Trump has a stream of consciousness style, he’s not interrupting himself, slurring his words, or losing his train of thought. The contrast with Biden is immense.
They have no idea how close they came.
What makes you think they're done? If anything, their hate is even more pronounced that before.
I was watching Fox, but they cut away, so I went to a streaming site and they had two cameras, one on the audience. There were a lot of SS agents. Big, burly ones.
The Biden Administration will average the number of agents at the two events and claim they're providing exceptional protection.
He took a bullet for Our Democracy. I'm not ceding it to the other side.
Democrats want, with every fiber of their being, to prevent people from having the option to vote for Donald Trump for president. Republicans aren't trying to keep anybody from voting for anybody.
Put that in your "Our Democracy™" pipe and smoke it.
@Dixcus said "Except 1 event. One single event they went live on."
Is that actually true? I've seen this claim on X a lot, but I don't watch CNN, so I have no idea how much coverage they've been giving, or how much they gave on 7/13.
I've been dismissing claims like this, and the ones about large companies shorting Trump on the betting markets the day before the shooting, because they are factual claims that can be checked and none of the big pro-Trump voices have been mentioning them.
At least it was free. And late Saturday afternoon doesn’t have much else to watch. So it was risk golf on a rain stormy day or clean up the house. I’ll take Mellow Trump on TV in Michigan. It’s 3 more weeks to pre-season NFL. Dead air. Sunday comes in the morning.
The wife loves watching Taylor Swift stuff on youtube, especially the 22 Hat part. Either that or lost dogs and cute cats. Can’t wait for football season and a crazy SEC season.
Gah, what a bore. He's turning into Fidel Castro. Who would go on for hours.
I would think he'd be at least a little nervous standing on a rally stage like that again. But he didn't seem to be.
"Gah, what a bore. He's turning into Fidel Castro. Who would go on for hours."
Sounds like Biden's your guy, then. He might manage 15 minutes.
Simply the best.
I'm all in for Trump, but a little of his stream-of-consciousness goes a long way.
Two hours. One hour more and we’ll be in Fidel Castro territory.
Btw does anyone know what Ted Cruz’s dad has been up to lately?
again, a Serious Question..
Could resident Biden even Stay awake for that long? to say nothing of staying on his feet.
Obviously, he can't stay on topic for 5 minutes, on his Best Days.. So i'm just asking Stay Awake?
"I took a bullet for democracy"
Maybe he said it, but his line, "They're not coming after me--they're coming after you" seems especially compelling now. Something like "That bullet was really aimed at you. I was just in the way."
Rafael Cruz is alive and kicking at 85.
Wife and I watched the convention speech on YouTube. We zoned out when it went into the typical stump speech. Besides the standard discussion of policy, what we mostly got out of it is the foolishness of suggesting Trump is as mentally disabled as Biden. Otherwise, I'm back to not listening to politicians. Action matters, and I've seen Trump in action as President for 4 years. He has my vote.
The only thing that has changed is the depths Democrats will go to win. Investigations are needed.
I watched for the first hour and was never bored. At this moment in time, after what he went through, how could it be boring? We’re in a truly historic period of time for our country.
Earnest Prole: "Two hours. One hour more and we’ll be in Fidel Castro territory.
Btw does anyone know what Ted Cruz’s dad has been up to lately?"
David Brook's fanboy checks in...with. predictable "hot take".
Dixcus said...
Dude1394 asked: "How many 5' secret service agents were there to protect the president?"
Dixcus: "The next time Donald Trump was seen in public, he had 15 agents surrounding him.
Not one was a 5'1-inch obese DEI hire.
Or a woman."
I do believe there was 1 chick agent ahead of Trump on his left and she headed to an unseen position behind the lectern.
I will add she did NOT look like a wuss.
Dixcus said...
They have no idea how close they came.
You need to distinguish between 2 groups of people.
One is the average democrat voter who at this point is a 90 IQ drone. Obviously a fairly large group.
The other group is the actually intelligent and malevolent. They have overthrown many governments. They know what will happen.
they do not care about their drones.
Despite a reputation for enormous vanity, one of Trump's riffs this evening was about the "severe comb-over" on his left-side hair. The right-side seemed ok to him, but oh that left side! "What's with that one?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKuErTDRaSw
Starting at around 52:00
Just so long as Trump doesn't start believing his own stuff.
The speech wasn't just long. He was talking quite fast. Fast and crisply enunciated. Strong. I had the feeling maybe the brush with death had heightened his sense that he needs to compress his energy and do more and more. At the end, when it was time to walk out, he seemed to want to linger, as if the rally was life itself, and he didn't want to leave.
Holy shit Althouse. Did you listen to that 1 hour and 42 minute spewing of stream of consciousness ranting and actually think that the string of lies and just pure fantasy he spouted was somehow coherent?
Fast and crisply enunciated, I'll give you that. But did you listen to the fucking content? When he wasn't outright lying when he contended that Mexico and France caved in the face of his brilliant bullying, was outright delusional. He is just making this shit up (or worse yet, he believes it actually happened)
I couldn't even keep up with all the outright lies, distortions, and absolute batshit crazy things he said.
And yes, if all you assholes claim he didn't lie at all, and want me to present you with a list of the lies (and it won't be complete, because at some point I am going to say, "fuck it, I can't take this any more), well then I will have to go through the tedious assignment of listing all the batshit crazy outright lies he told in that speech/
Feeder was not impressed so to speak but we all know Freder is an idiot.
Autocorrect strikes again but Freder is still an idiot.
We all saw it.
We all saw him spit in its face.
He doesn't need to remind us or reframe it.
He's a solid guy.
"well then I will have to go through the tedious assignment of listing all the batshit crazy outright lies he told in that speech/"
You do that, Freder.
So Trump goes 2 hrs and does not stumble. Biden goes 2 min and stumbles..
Trump used to gig his enemies unmercifully... rub their noses in it. That was a fault of his.
And now... he speaks more like Ronald Reagan. I hope, no I pray, to God this is true and he has changed for the better.
For we need another Reagan desperately now. A Reagan and a Pope John Paul II.
Field Marshall Freder in Full Spittle Flecked Moron Mode is simply icing on the cake.
Please do feeder. Waiting
A 78 year old man and if I didn't know that he was 78, I would guess early 60s at most.
Freder Frederson said...
And yes, if all you assholes claim he didn't lie at all, and want me to present you with a list of the lies (and it won't be complete, because at some point I am going to say, "fuck it, I can't take this any more), well then I will have to go through the tedious assignment of listing all the batshit crazy outright lies he told in that speech/
You are a dumb person who thinks disagreeing with you = lying. A Russian Collusion Hoaxer thinks he can talk about lies. You are a joke.
We don't have time for violent murderous assholes like you.
After we pass laws requiring voter ID and transparent voter roles with required maintenance we will reduce your voter fraud and democrats will not be competitive until they come back to reality.
We don't care about you Freder. It is time for adults to lead.
Shoo.
I truly believe one of the reasons he goes on so long is because it drives his haters crazy. See Freder above for the example.
Where's that list again Freder?
After this much time its got to be around here somewhere....
Little appreciated "fact": Project 2025 would outlaw lists.
The more you [think] you know.
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At the end, when it was time to walk out, he seemed to want to linger, as if the rally was life itself, and he didn't want to leave.
Maybe this is over the top, but it reminds me of many a medal of honor soldiers who wounded, once they are patched together, keep coming back to rejoin their fellow soldiers in the fight.
I know Trump was only nicked, still, he came within an inch of getting killed.
And every minute he's up there boring someone, he's saying FU to every opponent who wished he was shot dead.
I only wish he had given Chuck! a wellness check.
Imagine the acoustic print of our beloved Michigander's sphincter snapping shut.
Althouse : At the end, when it was time to walk out, he seemed to want to linger, as if the rally was life itself, and he didn't want to leave.
That's because, to him, it is life itself. He may like cheeseburgers, but the roar of the crowd is the true ambrosia.
Earnest Prole said...
Two hours. One hour more and we’ll be in Fidel Castro territory.
Btw does anyone know what Ted Cruz’s dad has been up to lately?
7/20/24, 7:45 PM
Maybe Fidel Castro's son knows.
We KNOW Trump is a braggart and exaggerates on most every thing. That's is and has been his style, even back when the Left loved him. There's a difference between bragging ("the biggest crowd evah!") and lying: All the stories about Biden's childhood and coming of age: civil rights marches, and, well, here's a short list at the link: https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/biden-has-always-been-liar The worst of Biden's lies is when he misquotes DJT just as the media does. It is SO easy to prove DJT did not say "inject with bleach" as his words were once covered in newspapers and the media before the "without evidence" was added. Objective, yeahrite.
"Did you listen to that 1 hour and 42 minute spewing of stream of consciousness ranting and actually think that the string of lies and just pure fantasy he spouted was somehow coherent?"
Did you listen?
You remind me of the parent who thinks their kid's music is just noise.
No one can speak extemporaneously like Trump. It's an amazing performance and his fans love it. It fills the arena. And what I was seeing is that he himself loves to be the man in the arena.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. Shame on the man of cultivated taste who permits refinement to develop into fastidiousness that unfits him for doing the rough work of a workaday world. Among the free peoples who govern themselves there is but a small field of usefulness open for the men of cloistered life who shrink from contact with their fellows. Still less room is there for those who deride or slight what is done by those who actually bear the brunt of the day; nor yet for those others who always profess that they would like to take action, if only the conditions of life were not exactly what they actually are. The man who does nothing cuts the same sordid figure in the pages of history, whether he be cynic, or fop, or voluptuary. There is little use for the being whose tepid soul knows nothing of the great and generous emotion, of the high pride, the stern belief, the lofty enthusiasm, of the men who quell the storm and ride the thunder. Well for these men if they succeed; well also, though not so well, if they fail, given only that they have nobly ventured, and have put forth all their heart and strength. It is war-worn Hotspur, spent with hard fighting, he of the many errors and the valiant end, over whose memory we love to linger, not over the memory of the young lord who 'but for the vile guns would have been a valiant soldier.'"
The man in the arena: On April 23, 1910, a year after leaving his presidential office, Theodore Roosevelt gave what would become one of his greatest rhetorical triumphs. The most famous section of his speech still resonates and inspires, even today.
LINK to a reading by Shane Morris
Even as the blood was streaming down his face, there were critics/ cynics who rushed to their keyboard, not decrying the violence witnessed by millions, but calling it staged or a hoax to make Trump look good. These people created the atmosphere where such an attempt was not only encouraged, but applauded. Hate. The word created by people pointed at the opposition. To what end? Blood.
I was tempted to write "fight, fight, fight" on a package I was delivering to to one of the houses with a "Trump Vance 2024" yard sign.
I went ahead and did it. If I get in trouble, I get in trouble.
" is that he himself loves to be the man in the arena."
He is a showman. Some people can't stand that about him, and use that as an excuse to say that he won't be an effective president.
"well then I will have to go through the tedious assignment of listing all the batshit crazy outright lies he told in that speech/"
And then we will finally know who stole the strawberries.
Althouse: [From The Man In The Arena]
"Shame on the man of cultivated taste who permits refinement to develop into fastidiousness that unfits him for doing the rough work of a workaday world."
This line always reminds me of Shakespeare's Henry V where Henry tells the Herald Montjoy to convey this message to the French Constable who seeks Henry's surrender in the face of frightful odds on St Crispins Day at Agincourt, which reads:
"Let me speak proudly: tell the constable
We are but warriors for the working day
Our gayness and our gilt are all besmirched
With rainy marching in the painful field.
There’s not a piece of feather in our host— Good argument, I hope, we will not fly—
And time hath worn us into slovenry.
But, by the Mass, our hearts are in the trim,
And my poor soldiers tell me, yet ere night
They’ll be in fresher robes, or they will pluck
The gay new coats o'er the French soldiers' heads
And turn them out of service.
If they do this,
As, if God please, they shall, my ransom then
Will soon be levied.
Herald, save thou thy labor.
Come thou no more for ransom, gentle herald.
They shall have none, I swear, but these my joints,
Which, if they have, as I will leave 'em them,
Shall yield them little. Tell the constable."
My thoughts:
Unlike many people, Donald Trump thrives on stress.
Donald Trump requires human contact, someone to talk to. He would talk to a fire hydrant if it was the only audience.
He is the greatest American showman since PT Barnum.
" is that he himself loves to be the man in the arena."
He is a showman. Some people can't stand that about him, and use that as an excuse to say that he won't be an effective president.
If electing Trump as president again results in even half the benefits gained from his being president the first time, that would be a significant improvement over where we are today. If Trump wants to pat himself on the back for getting good things done for all those people who've been ignored by the Uniparty for so long, I'm okay with that.
Did you listen?
You remind me of the parent who thinks their kid's music is just noise.
No one can speak extemporaneously like Trump. It's an amazing performance and his fans love it. It fills the arena. And what I was seeing is that he himself loves to be the man in the arena.
Yes I did. It was painful but I felt like I had to do it because I knew you and others would defend the awful speech. When he wasn't vastly exaggerating his own accomplishments and lying about how bad things are under Biden (especially about crime), he was just recycling his same old batshit crazy stories.
Do me one favor (actually anyone here can do it), tell me what the hell the point of the story about the sinking electric boat and the shark is about.
That's is and has been his style, even back when the Left loved him.
When did the left ever love Donald Trump? Maybe the left didn't give a shit about him, but claiming the left loved him is a Trumpian lie.
We don't have time for violent murderous assholes like you.
Again, when have I ever advocated murdering anyone? Unlike you.
You are a liar.
"When did the left ever love Donald Trump? "
Look up Jesse Jackson giving him an award.
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