From "Live Updates: Hunter Biden’s Trial in Gun Case Begins/The president’s son goes on trial in Wilmington, Del., on three charges that he lied about his drug use on a federal firearms application in 2018. The unusual prosecution carries stiff penalties: up to 25 years in prison and a $750,000 fine" (NYT).
ADDED: Here's good background, "For Hunter Biden, a dramatic day with his brother’s widow led to charges/Six years ago, Hallie Biden threw out a gun that prosecutors say Hunter Biden bought improperly. His trial starts Monday" (WaPo):
"[Hallie] told [Hunter] she had found his gun and thrown it into a trash can [near Janssen’s Market]. He immediately became alarmed, angrily telling her to go retrieve it, text messages show. Just before noon, according to the video footage, Hallie... checked two trash cans, and when she could not find the gun, she approached the store owner and relayed what had happened. The police were called and, by 12:56 p.m., opened a gun theft case, with Hunter listed as the victim and Hallie as the suspect.... Hallie called Hunter, who also came to the store to talk to police.... He wondered aloud whether store workers might have taken the gun from the trash can, pointing to two Latino men in Janssen’s Market shirts and saying, “Yea, prolly illegal.”... The officer asked whether he was using drugs, floating that as a reason that Hallie was searching his truck. “Listen, it isn’t like that,” Hunter responded, according to the police report. “I think she believes I was gonna kill myself.” He told the officer that he was living a nightmare, that he had fallen in love with his brother’s widow, and that he was depressed but in love."At the end of that article:
A week ago, President Biden visited Hallie Biden’s house for about 15 minutes, a trip that White House officials said was connected not to Hunter’s upcoming trial but to the ninth anniversary of Beau’s death. On Thursday, the Bidens went to church and visited Beau’s grave, with Hunter walking out just before his father. Hallie was not with them.
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Ah - dripping with proBiden bias at the NYT.
"without evidence" means there is evidence and the claim is likely true, but it is inconvenient.
You get the idea that journalists do not know what "evidence" means. But then again they typically do not know what "journalism" is either.
"For months, Republicans have claimed, without producing evidence, that President Biden somehow profited from his son’s overseas business deals..."
Huh? At least part of the money trail led directly from china to Joe's account, as "loan repayment." And of course, family use of the family name to sell Joe's influence is itself corrupt.
"The unusual prosecution carries stiff penalties"
Ah, so this one is "unusual." All the other stuff is "the rule of law," which we all revere. By the way, why did DOJ let the statute of limitations expire on Hunter's earlier tax fraud?
“without producing evidence” = “without our acknowledging that dead elephant in the room’s worth of evidence.”
I tremble for my country, legitimately, if Hunter walks after Trump’s conviction. There may or may not be violence afterward, but no nation in which half the country cheers two corrupt judicial outcomes and the other half justly loses all faith in the judicial system cannot long endure. “A house divided,” and all that.
The gun charges are just a convenient way to charge Hunter with something (so that they can feign impartiality) that does not involve Joe.
The evidence is the data from Hunter Biden’s laptop that the NYT and 50 former intel employees, some paid by the 2020 Biden campaign, fraudulently claim is Russian Disinformation that it exists. However, in this trial, the data will be used as evidence against Hunter Biden. Perhaps that’s a ploy by DoJ officials to ultimately get the laptop data rejected as evidence, but that may work about as well as the attempts to claim Ashley Biden’s diary wasn’t actually hers.
Also, Congress has more evidence of the Biden family earnings from foreign businesses. It is only declared not to be evidence because it comes from Republicans. Sort of like it is fine to embezzle from Republican candidates and then testify that they are frauds that ought to be convicted of also being Republicans.
Is that what we've been claiming? I thought we were claiming that the POTUS is making foreign policy decisions based on what influence his son sold.
Sins of the son visited on the father (‘s sanctimonious self-regard.)
""without evidence" means there is evidence and the claim is likely true, but it is inconvenient."
And notice the additional word "producing": "without producing evidence." That suggests that the NYT knows the evidence and is just dinging the Republicans for not laying it out for us all to see. Is there no evidence that could be produced? I don't think the NYT is saying.
All sorts of evidence exists.
Strange how the leftwing press do not want to talk to Tony Bobolinksi.
The Biden's international money grifting is known and real.
The corrupt American hack-D press ignore all of it. On purpose.
NYT: 2 + 2 = 5
As noted above, there is considerable evidence. And as I have speculated here, there's certainly millions more in bitcoin in accounts owned by Dr. Jill and Joe.
As the late Charlie Munger said, all the criminals use bitcoin; that's why it was invented.
Who is this "Big Guy"?
NYT Editors: Ohhh. Another news item to supply daily headlines about a prominent relative or acquaintance of a presidential candidate. Quick! Raise the ad rates.
Actually, they've produced plenty of evidence that "The big Guy" was getting his cut from Hunter Biden's crooked deals with China and Ukraine. But "America Pravda" wants to pretend otherwise.
Yes,
Let’s talk about unusual prosecutions.
Funny...the GOP presents evidence all the time on Biden's corrupt profiteering. They have even had Hunter's business partner testify that Joe was in on it all. Not to mention all the shell companies.
I don't give a shit about Hunter smoking crack with $20K Eastern European hookers. Sounds epic.
Being on the board of the Ukrainian gas company is the real crime. That was the inside pay for play that led to the Trump impeachment and now 300K dead Ukrainians.
This the same MSM, that in Fall 2020 called Hunter's laptop story a "Hoax" and "without evidence" - Y'see there was no laptop. that a fact jack. They also printed a letter from 30 "intelligence experts" saying it was "Russian Disinfomation". And applauded attempts to censor anyone who brought it up.
We now Know the liberal/left MSM editors knew this was a LIE. They deliberately lied to help Biden. The MSM knew the laptop existed and the Federal DA and the FBI had started an investigation in Spring 2020.
Just sustitute "We're lying when we sayve there is no evidence" for "Without evidence" - and you'll understand the MSM stories better.
I am, like many others here, very familiar with Matt Taibbi's work from the Twitter files. Hence, I can't stop wondering if the NYT delivered this piece following a "tabletop exercise" with certain of our alphabet agencies (operating 'legally' through cutouts, of course) and the professionals that have specialized in handling this kind of material for the protected class.
I didn't used to be this cynical or suspicious. Why have I changed?
It is not unusual to charge someone for lying on their gun purchase paperwork.
Unusual is Trump being charged and convicted for a crime that nobody else in history has been charged with.
Maybe Joe profited from it, maybe not. Either way, when the president's son is using his father's name to peddle influence around the world: it's a big fucking deal and the kind of thing the NYT would care about if Don Jr was doing it. All the wasted pearl clutching over people staying at the Trump Hotel but the major media isn't the least big curious what Hunter was doing in Ukraine who the rich people buying Hunter Biden's painting are!?!?
Hunter Biden had the DNC pay off his baby mama in plain sight and nobody asks any questions about whether this is even legal or ethical. "Wait, I don't remember the DNC paying off his baby mama." That's right, you don't because he "paid" his daughter's child support with one of his "paintings." Shouldn't somebody as (maybe someone in the media) whether that painting he gave to his daughter in lieu of child support already has a rich buyer and who that person is. But they won't because in 2024 bribing a politician's family is someone not a crime prohibited by the United States Code.
The President's son sits on a Ukrainian energy company board. A couple years later *someone* blows up Russian a gas pipeline. All together now: let's ask ZERO QUESTIONS because obviously there is THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JOE MADE MONEY SO THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Would it surprise me if the United State's whole initial involvement in the Ukraine war was about that fucking pipeline all along? No at all. Not until someone starts answering important questions. But, someone has got to start asking them.
By the way, if you haven't seen the clips of Dave Smith debate against Chris Coumo you need to see it today. Watching Coumo squirm is delightful.
It is not unusual to charge someone for lying on their gun purchase paperwork.
This is classic bullshit. It may be technically true, but such charges are almost always brought as an additional charge in a serious felony.
How do you know a Democrat is lying?
Anytime they say "without producing evidence", they're lying.
The GOP produced a check from Joe brother to him, that came right after said brother received a payoff.
Hunter Biden stated to his daughter in a text, found on his laptop, that his Dad took 50% of every corrupt payment Hunter received
Hunter Biden's business partner testified under oath that Joe Biden was "the big guy" who "got 10%" of every deal.
This is more evidence than Trump was convicted on, and unlike with Trump, the witness didn't perjure himself during his testimony about Biden's crimes.
When a Democrat says "without evidence" or "refuses to argue/claim", what they mean is "the evidence is so overwhelming I can't dispute it" or "the arguments / claims are so strong I can't dispute them"
Always
Wait, is this the court case that has grudgingly moved forward after the judge reviewed the Win-The-Lottery plea bargain that proposed that Hunter Biden suffer not even the indignity of a slapped hand? The same one that the judge 'falsely' slapped down 'without evidence' (ha ha, just playin' the game here)?
Don't forget, the Hunter Biden laptop story and others like this one, were played out table-top fashion at the Aspen Institute years ago, and is one of the reasons that Kasparov just resigned in disgust.
Amazing that they would include the words "unusual prosecution" in an article so close to that other prosecution that was also unusual but not acknowledged as so.
What's that saying? Something like you may hate the media but you don't hate them enough.
"Live Updates: Hunter Biden’s Trial in Gun Case Begins/The president’s son goes on trial in Wilmington, Del., on three charges that he lied about his drug use on a federal firearms application in 2018. The unusual prosecution carries stiff penalties: up to 25 years in prison and a $750,000 fine"
What is "unusual" about enforcing gun control laws?
Is this the NYT's way of saying that "conservatives are right, the only intended purpose of gun control laws is to disarm the law abiding, thus we try to never actually punish criminals for violating them"?
If so, I would consider that a rather important story to cover
@Begley = see how-a-27-year-old-busted-the-myth-of-bitcoins-anonymity
Maybe Joe profited from it, maybe not.
Maybe it’s easy to afford a large beachfront house in Rehobeth on a senator’s salary, maybe not.
10% for the Big Guy.
Nothing to see here. Move on.
"Without evidence"
"No one is above the law"
"This is what democracy looks like"
"It's between a woman and her doctor"
"Putin hacked our election"
"J6 was an insurrection"
"Voter ID is racist"
The mindless shit regurgitated by liberals. It's about as intellectual as a cow chewing cud.
If you still read the NYT seriously, you might not be lucid enough to remember any of this. But let's review:
1) Hunter Biden has had to repeatedly admit, under oath, that he was addicted to illegal drugs at the time of his illegal gun purchases.
2) Hunter Biden's laptop is filled with images of his illegal drug use and extreme symptoms of drug use (his meth mouth, for instance)
3) A major reason we're talking about this at all is because the cretin put up a nudie pic where he's holding the illegal gun.
The NYT can't find the evidence of Hunter Biden's criminality, or the Epstein child abuse network, because they are an integral part of that criminal conspiracy. If only a skilled legal analyst could mention any of these facts.
If Joe Biden is guilty of a crime, then a grand jury should look be shown evidence and he should be charged. He should then spend weeks in a trial, where he can produce evidence in his defense, and if after all of that, 12 of his peers are convinced of his guilt, he should be punished. Period. If that happened, rational people would understand that hes a criminal.
MAGAt nation can only seethe and cry.
Freder Frederson said...
It is not unusual to charge someone for lying on their gun purchase paperwork.
This is classic bullshit. It may be technically true, but such charges are almost always brought as an additional charge in a serious felony.
You mean like taking bribes from foreign countries and companies and getting your father to influence US policy on their behalf?
Remember the guy that lied on his gun purchase forms is the highest paid artist in the world.
You mean like taking bribes from foreign countries and companies and getting your father to influence US policy on their behalf?
No, I mean violent felonies or drug trafficking. Regardless, Hunter Biden has not been charged with any of these things.
Porgie: I'd like to take one too, Dad.
Dad: Scared son? Don't be. I love you at times like this.
Porgie: I know, Dad, but, I mean, I still don't see how you can be my defense lawyer and the People's prosecutor all at the same time?
Dad: Easy, son, this way I can personally see to it that you AREN'T prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Porgie: That's my Dad!
While I would not vote guilty were I on this jury for this particular crime, this prosecution is only happening because the Biden Administration was feeling the heat coming from the various Trump indictments, but even with that they were prepared to give Hunter a sweetheart deal on the gun charge- something they would never do were this Donald Trump's sons. They had already run out the statute of limitations clock, deliberately so, on the clear-cut tax evasion on over a million dollars of undeclared income- you try that as a nobody and the IRS and DoJ will string you up. Additionally, were Hunter Biden a Republican, he would have been charged with FARA violations.
Of course, Hunter Biden isn't going to be convicted here even though he is very likely guilty of the crime just based on the publicly available evidence evidence (I am assuming there is no doubt he is the one that signed the form).
Why do Republicans have to produce more evidence than they have already revealed, of both implications of influence peddling and a cover-up by the Executive Branch?
The DOJ and FBI should have been investigating already.
Congress can hold hearings, or impeach. They had the power to do this a long time ago, but they squandered their chance at the time.
That doesn't let the DOJ or the FBI off the hook, but it does mean that we are not being served in a timely or serious manner over grave issues of international policy by our elected officials in the GOP. And it means that the Democrats are blocking avenues for investigation into these grave issues, to put it mildly.
Freder makes the phrase "dumb as dogshit" seem inadequate.
"without producing evidence"? Well, that's progress of a sort. At least they didn't say "baselessly". But it seems to me that "10% for the Big Guy" has a certain evidentiary flavor to it. More than enough for a conviction in a New York courtroom.
I am, like many others here, very familiar with Matt Taibbi's work from the Twitter files. Hence, I can't stop wondering if the NYT delivered this piece following a "tabletop exercise" with certain of our alphabet agencies (operating 'legally' through cutouts, of course) and the professionals that have specialized in handling this kind of material for the protected class
I think it is much more likely that the Bidens are CIA stooges rather than actual criminal masterminds. That explanation actually "fits" and would explain everything. Where the laptop came from... why the media can't point out when Joe obviously is shitting his diaper during a press conference... the war with Russia... There is no way a thinking American can watch 30 seconds of Biden and think "yup...he is sharp enough to have his finger on the button." Someone is protecting him from the public. I think of the media and the Bidens as being "corrupt" but maybe a more accurate word is "compromised."
The CIA is starting WWIII and we are talking about porn stars. Neat trick.
Fucking Sideshow Bidens
Cofer black the henry wilson character from covert affairs was a burisma director he made a very good living from the war on terror
PRAVDA. They are no better than that. They are lying to the American people to put Trump in prison and to save this lying piece of shit Biden and his administration because they know it is over for them otherwise.
Kolomoisky hunters boss is in jail but not for the 6 billion loss but for crossing zelenzky
Gusty Winds said...
"Without evidence"
"No one is above the law"
"This is what democracy looks like"
"It's between a woman and her doctor"
"Putin hacked our election"
"J6 was an insurrection"
"Voter ID is racist"
The mindless shit regurgitated by liberals. It's about as intellectual as a cow chewing cud.
6/3/24, 9:56 AM
The circus goes on and the clowns preside all on the left.
D.D. Driver said...
"I am, like many others here, very familiar with Matt Taibbi's work from the Twitter files. Hence, I can't stop wondering if the NYT delivered this piece following a "tabletop exercise" with certain of our alphabet agencies (operating 'legally' through cutouts, of course) and the professionals that have specialized in handling this kind of material for the protected class
I think it is much more likely that the Bidens are CIA stooges rather than actual criminal masterminds....."
Occams razor is your friend. Yes. The Bidens are really that stupid.
A Delaware court is not the same as a Manhattan court. Just for starters, there are people in Delaware who still have scruples.
"They had already run out the statute of limitations clock..."
Haven't the Democrats recently demonstrated that those limitations are rather flexible?
Freder Frederson said...
It is not unusual to charge someone for lying on their gun purchase paperwork.
This is classic bullshit. It may be technically true, but such charges are almost always brought as an additional charge in a serious felony.
The gun was illegally disposed of by Hunter's then lover- found in a trash can. There' some felonies right there.
According to Delaware gun laws hand guns acn be carried in a car- in plain sight. According to his then lover- she found it concealed in the center console. Another law broken. All kinds of laws- gun laws- broken. Almost like criminals and DemoncRAts don't bother obeying laws.
"Without producing evidence..."
Aside from Hunter's own laptop, statements from Hunter's own partners, and financial statements showing multiple shell companies, with monies spread among a slew of Biden family members.
There's more smoke here than at one of Hunter's friendly gatherings. The Democrats were fine with changing the law on an expired misdemeanor to create a Federal crime out of thin air. But when shown an actual bag full of arrows pointing to perhaps the worst crime ever committed by a Vice President/President, well...Party over country every time.
Democrats. I continue to wonder how any breathing adults could possibly vote for them. Any of them.
Gun laws are enforced haphazardly. Lots of examples over the years of the politically connected getting away with things us ordinary peons can't. And the hypocrisy of anti-gun people is astounding. Lots of examples of that. And sometimes the ATF doesn't bother with a trial. They set things up so they can go straight to an execution without trial.
https://www.5newsonline.com/article/news/local/little-rock-airport-executive-atf-agents-shootout/527-744aea40-d8e8-48e4-a1b3-c7a081f566e6
"For months, Republicans have claimed, without producing evidence, that President Biden somehow profited from his son’s overseas business deals..."
what about the laptop? isn't THAT evidence?
speaking of evidence, what evidence did the Georgia DA (lani whatsHerName?) produce to show she was NOT profiting from her boyfriend's hotel rooms?
It is not true that there is no "evidence." It is true that Congress cannot indict and DOJ has no interest in investigating the "big guy."
Why do Republicans have to produce more evidence than they have already revealed, of both implications of influence peddling and a cover-up by the Executive Branch?
So in your twisted world of law and order, implications of a crime are proof of the crime. By your standards, Trump would have been locked up long ago.
Trump gets tried on charges that have never before been brought in the history of this country, but the Biden trial is an "unusual prosecution?"
what about the laptop? isn't THAT evidence?
IIRC, you are (if it isn't you, it is many other commenters on this site) obsessed with chain of custody. Hunter's laptop is a fucking disaster if you believe in an even loose definition of chain of custody, and I am sure if Eric or Don Jr. were accused of similar crimes based on similar "evidence" you would be appalled and blame it all on the "deep state".
10 percent for the big guy and sworn testimony from a former business associate for the deal that Joe is “the big guy,” combined with Joe refusing to disclose finances from his 20 shell companies and commingled bank accounts with Hunter is evidence. Talk about denial.
The gun was illegally disposed of by Hunter's then lover- found in a trash can. There' some felonies right there.
Well then charge Hunter's then lover. And again, he has not been charged with that particular felony (which, of course is not a violent crime).
For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden.
So in your twisted world of law and order, implications of a crime are proof of the crime. By your standards, Trump would have been locked up long ago.
Come on, Freder, you can do better. In our "twisted world of law and order," the evidence already presented implicating the President in his son's influence-peddling scheme, at least Hunter if not also Joe would have been fully investigated and indicted by now, such that a trial on these matters would be forthcoming. Not "locked up" on the basis of those implications alone. That's your side's thing.
But your side doesn't submit to investigation, do they? At least not without a Hallelujah Chorus of "baseless," "false," and "without evidence" from their friends in the media.
Freder you seem very invested in this Hunter Biden story.
For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden.
For as much as you crime-lovers love gun laws, you seem awfully hesitant to see them enforced.
Against Hunter Biden, anyway.
I wonder why...
As to chain of custody: isn't it the case that the FBI authenticated the laptop and the data thereon? Before the publication of the infamous "intel experts Russian disinformation" letter?
Which, to remind you, was published only a couple of weeks before the 2020 election?
And yet your side still claims (ahem, without evidence) that 2020 was the freest and fairest election in the history of our Republic, which you always insist on referring to as Your Democracy.
Freder Frederson said...
what about the laptop? isn't THAT evidence?
IIRC, you are (if it isn't you, it is many other commenters on this site) obsessed with chain of custody. Hunter's laptop is a fucking disaster if you believe in an even loose definition of chain of custody,and I am sure if Eric or Don Jr. were accused of similar crimes based on similar "evidence" you would be appalled and blame it all on the "deep state".
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Now discuss the "chain of custody" issues and "evidence tampering" the DOJ and FBI committed---and admitted to in court---in the "classified documents" case.
The DOJ slow walked Hunter Biden cases so that all the Ukraine corruption done under his Dad's time as Vice President became past the statute of limitations.
So, no its not just the son's who is dirty.
In fact, his entire regime is dirty because they were willing to run the clock out on direct VP corruption in Ukraine. They are now prosecuting cases where Daddy was back in civilian life, and so not able to be prosecuted.
And Daddy will pardon his son, right after 2024 election is over.
Disgusting.
Evidence? And Hunter's laptop? That is not 'evidence'? Even Hunter now says it is real (as does the prosecutors.) Lots and lots of evidence on that laptop!
Freder Frederson said...
For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden.
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"Without evidence", you claim people who defend 2nd Amendment rights are FOR illegal possesion of guns.
Really dumb.
Freder Frederson said...
"For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden."
Well the law is the law... we face that same law, so why not Democrats?
BTW every thing Trump was convicted for was past the statute of limitations.
so the dems are denying that murderer fauci, killed a million people, erased emails, and made up social distancing thats how they do it,
you claim people who defend 2nd Amendment rights are FOR illegal possesion of guns.
To quote a bumper sticker, "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" According to this mentality, even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns.
Biden will pardon Hunter the day after the election.
It’s not like Hunter is Hispanic.
Freder Frederson said...
you claim people who defend 2nd Amendment rights are FOR illegal possesion of guns.
To quote a bumper sticker, "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" According to this mentality, even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns.
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More shocking, full-frontal absurdity, offered "without evidence".
Why not point us to gun humpers who believe "even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns."
SNORT
Did Hallie Biden throw the gun away before or after she banged Hunter?
I'm guessing after...
Nihil futurum est.
Freder Frederson said...
you claim people who defend 2nd Amendment rights are FOR illegal possesion of guns.
To quote a bumper sticker, "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" According to this mentality, even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns.
Freder just cannot discuss any of this honestly.
This is the definition of cognitive dissonance.
Freder Frederson said...
"For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden."
For as much as you gun haters love "gun laws", you all seem very opposed to use those very same gun laws you love against Hunter Biden
FIFY
So, here's the deal, Freder:
Yes, I thing most "gun laws" are total shit, and shouldn't be on the books.
So what, they ARE on the books.
Either enforce them, or get them off the books.
"Enforce them" means prosecute every single drug addict or other criminal who violates them. Not "only as part of something else", but every single tiem they're violated.
Or else admit they're BS, and get rid of them.
Rule of law. It's a concept you lefties babble about, but refuse to actually follow
Freder Frederson said...
you claim people who defend 2nd Amendment rights are FOR illegal possesion of guns.
To quote a bumper sticker, "what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?" According to this mentality, even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns.
6/3/24, 12:21 PM
Under the mentality that Freder is possessing, a person can be deprived of life, liberty, or property, but cannot be deprived of their right to arms. How does that work Freder once your life is taken?
Why not point us to gun humpers who believe "even felons in prison should be allowed to possess guns."
Apparently, you can't recognize sarcasm when you see it.
But of course, if Hunter had bought his gun from a private seller at a gun show, he would not have to fill out Form 4473, so no crime. and you gun humpers are adamant that private gun sales should not be subject to any kind of background check. And of course, although it is illegal to sell a firearm to a felon, Hunter was not a felon when he bought his gun, he merely had drug problems.
And of course, even "shall not be infringed", according to the founders did not apply to enslaved people.
"For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden."
Conservatives would prefer fewer gun laws, but that is not the world we live in. Those laws exist because the progressive left insisted on creating them. Ok then- here we are. You wanted those laws and you got them. So- why does the left drag their feet and refuse to enforce them when they're violated by Hunter Biden?
It's almost like the left considers laws to be a weapon to use against their opponents while excusing themselves from the need to follow them.
Under the mentality that Freder is possessing, a person can be deprived of life, liberty, or property, but cannot be deprived of their right to arms. How does that work Freder once your life is taken?
Actually, that is not my mentality, but the mentality of idiots who drive around with that bumper sticker.
Blogger Freder Frederson said...
what about the laptop? isn't THAT evidence?
IIRC, you are (if it isn't you, it is many other commenters on this site) obsessed with chain of custody.
Unsurprisingly, you are ignorant of Email authentication with SPF/DKIM/DMARC.
The emails found on the laptop can be validated with a degree of certainty equivalent to that used for on-line Treasury debt auctions and inter-bank wire transfers.
The whole "You don't have any evidence!" only applies to Democrats...
Another happy coincidence.
The "you don't have any evidence!" scream only applies when there is plenty of evidence - but the command and control media machine deny and ignore it... in lockstep. Using the same pre-approved language.
why? Because the press is as corrupt as the Soviet democrat party itself.
hunter is lesuo or kompromat, or whatever te ukrainian word is corresponding, the former is in mandarin, why did the 51 intel experts even nadia bakos who is not a central asian expert, proscribe it,
you need to read between the lines whats going on,
The Special Counsel appointed by Merrick Garland, David Weiss, who tried to push Hunter Biden's sweetheart plea deal past this same court will lead the prosecution in front of a Delaware jury approved by the defense and ... David Weiss.
The chances that Hunter Biden will be convicted are quite small.
through a cutout, one of his other companies was involved in biological warfare research in ukraine,, though akhmatov another favored oligarch
It's unusual to charge someone for lying on the paperwork to get a gun, if the lie is discovered before they get the gun. It's not unusual to file criminal charges if they do get the gun.
Hunter Biden was an unstable addict with a gun, which he shoved in a glove compartment accessible to his children. He is the person the laws were written about.
""For months, Republicans have claimed, without producing evidence, that President Biden somehow profited from his son’s overseas business deals..."". (emphasis added)
This level of disingenuousness is off the charts, even for the NYT.
Freder Frederson said...
Under the mentality that Freder is possessing, a person can be deprived of life, liberty, or property, but cannot be deprived of their right to arms. How does that work Freder once your life is taken?
Actually, that is not my mentality, but the mentality of idiots who drive around with that bumper sticker.
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You assume "without evidence" you can read the minds of people who put those bumber stickers opn their vehicles.
Yet you can't cite a single example of anyone holding the absurd idea that jailed prisoners have the right to firearms.
disposing of an unlicensed weapon is a felony, full stop, doesn't matter if a third party did it, the fact it was his brothers widow who did it, in this funhouse version of yellowstone makes it even more akward, but she was a recipient of the laundered funds,
"Yet you can't cite a single example of anyone holding the absurd idea that jailed prisoners have the right to firearms."
This is how the left operates- they fling whatever dogshit idea pops into their heads into an argument and when it's exposed as being as silly as it obviously is, they refuse to defend it, act like they never said it and proceed dispensing some new verbal diarrhea as though there's a nugget of wisdom caked inside.
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Hunter Biden and a Delaware jury are the opposite side of the NYC Trump jury. I am still surprised that two lawyers thought so little of their honor as to sign this sham verdict.
Hunter's laptop is the main evidence, but that was produced by the Russians, not Republicans, or something. And all those transfers from the foreign sources to bank accounts, "repayments" to Joe for loans never recorded? None so blind as those who will not see.
Doc. You're assuming they had any in the first place.
The President of the United States took time out from his busy schedule of jawboning Israelis to visit his daughter-in-law? He didn't just call? He drove there? And stayed for only fifteen minutes?
Did she throw him out?
For as much as you gun humpers hate gun laws, you all seem very eager to use those very same gun laws you hate against Hunter Biden.
Be fair. I also LOOOOOVE seeing him brought up on tax charges while pops is trying to tell me that I am "not paying my fair share."
Make the enemy live by their own set of rules. It's fucking awesome. I also love seeing Trump sued for libel BTW since he was the one that wanted to "open up the libel laws." Love it. Love it. Love it.
Those Bidens pay back a lot of loans to each other when there is literally no evidence the loans were ever made.
"without evidence"
predictable and funny
Since establishment of the Pro-Choice religion under Democratic auspices, the standard of proof is plausible, not probable, and certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt. Throw another baby... fetus on the barbie, it's over. Forward!
'without producing evidence'
Why do I get the feeling the only evidence they would accept is a cancelled check with "Bribe for Joe Biden" written at the bottom.
And even then they probably wouldn't accept it.
"The chances that Hunter Biden will be convicted are quite small."
It's dumb that he hasn't been indicted on state charges in Arkansas or Florida or Montana or someplace. Indict brother Frank in Florida:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/frank-biden-leveraged-famous-business-gain/story?id=68202529
Indict Jill Biden in Alaska. Preemptively indict Michelle Obama. Indict Hilary. Find some nexus to indict Nancy Pelosi for insider trading in fucking Kansas, and Indiana, and Louisiana, and Kentucky, and Tennessee (insert Howard Dean scream here). Indict Nancy Pelosi everywhere you can find a conservative DA.
Indict everyone and then at the end everyone can agree to a hostage exchange. But right now there is no leverage.
Actually, that is not my mentality, but the mentality of idiots who drive around with that bumper sticker.
Ooo, in honor of Pride Month, do "Love is love"!
I love "somehow profited." I mean, it's like the simplest form of "profit" there is - cash. Joe didn't even have to pretend he's an artist so he could "sell his art."
We're nobody, not even lawyers, but we've lent decent amounts of money to family members - and can prove they were loans with actual notarized documents. Are the Bidens, especially the lawyer Bidens, all too ignorant to have thought to do that? Too addled by whatever substance? Or what?
"Are the Bidens, especially the lawyer Bidens, all too ignorant to have thought to do that? Too addled by whatever substance? Or what?"
They're Democrats. They have no expectation of being held to the standards other people are.
You leftist losers refuse to see what’s in front of you. The people on the other end of the emails, texts and WhatsApp messages have corroborated the most damaging parts of the laptop from hell. They have produced independent copies stored at their end. The doofus son of the doofus POTUS backed up his IPhones to the laptop with all the corroborating timestamps and videos and amateur porn, including frolicking with obviously underage honey traps in China during those famous Air Force Two shuttles to seal Hunter and Jim’s deals with the CCP — with “10% for the Big Guy” held for feeble Joe.
Deny it all you want. The precedent has been set with Trump. Soon to be former president Biden is up to his unnaturally tight neck in graft and corruption. And his son delivered almost all the evidence needed in nice little bundle. You can’t wish it away. The DNC Media Complex can’t cover it all up and the Truth will out. The trial will not require novel theories and unique prosecutorial gambits. It is a simple tale of a family that siphoned enormous wealth out of some of the skeeviest nation-states and allowed the vice-president’s son to blow much of it on hookers and crack right out there in the open.
Pass the popcorn.
He didn't buy the gun "improperly" he bought it completely, absolutely, undeniably illegally. When the other plea deal was falling apart under scrutiny, I suggested in Althouse's comment section that convicting the weasel on the gun charge, with its onerous penalties and easy proof, was a great way to convince him to roll on the corruption of the Biden family enterprise. While I seriously doubt that is happening, it is still nice to see him facing the consequences of at least these actions.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
“…to seal Hunter and Jim’s …”
As an old-school liberal , I gotta tell you — on first reading, I found it quite disturbing that, on top of everything else, the President’s son had been clubbing baby seals and uploading the evidence to his hellish laptop. Terrible!
as to Hunter in Mainland China,
the age of consent for sexual activity is 14 years, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.[46] Chinese law defines statutory rape as having sex with a girl who is less than fourteen years of age.
+ he has diplomatic passport!
there is a major scandal that no one wants to check out: How Biden, and a lot of people in Congress, got rich, or their spouses/ brothers/ relatives got rich.
And it's both parties.
As my cynical Philippine husband says: They are all crooks.
Mrade said,
" President’s son had been clubbing baby seals"
Baby Harp Seals. Those are the sacred ones.
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