Said Donald Trump, quoted in "Trump brazenly asks Bronx crowd if he was 'hotter' before or after becoming president."
That's in the Independent, which says "He is seemingly attempting to make inroads with ethnic minority voters, hoping it can bolster his support in traditionally Democratic strongholds and swing states."
Seemingly! The polls show that he has made inroads with ethnic minority voters, and he's keeping up the pressure, what with this rallying in the South Bronx. As he said, you have to perceive your hotness and move forward into greater and greater hotness.
I watched most of the Bronx speech, and I thought he seemed especially happy to be there. New York is his town, and — telling stories about building in the city — he conveyed real love for the place. He wanted the people of his favorite city to know he cares and he can rebuild things for them — quickly — like he rebuilt the Wollman skating rink.
How threatened do Democrats feel? I'd like to know. How dare he come for their safe safe safe state of New York? He dares. He's hot. He senses his own hotness and goes for it. Who else would do that? No one.
ADDED: Are you having trouble understanding "I think I’m hotter than I am now"? Listening live, you probably wouldn't be confused. He just switched to speaking about the past in the present test. He means, at the time, back then, he thought I'm really hot. And the hotness, as he subjectively thought about it, was hotter than the hotness he has "now." And by "now," he means the entire political phase of his life, including the time, quite a few years ago, when he actually was President. It's a pretty long "now." But he had his building mogul phase, he's TV star phase, and his political phase. He was damned big — AKA "hot" — in all 3.
ALSO: Sorry for leaving out the usual hedging when I wrote: "He wanted the people of his favorite city to know he cares and he can rebuild...." Normally, I would write "He seems to have wanted the people of his favorite city to believe he cares and he can rebuild...." I don't know what's really in his head, but it just seemed irritatingly weaselly to make a thing out of that in the original post. But I did nevertheless feel I needed to pay tribute to truth in this addendum. Carry on!
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Are you having trouble understanding "I think I’m hotter than I am now"?
No, but you can expect that the usual suspects will have their usual trouble.
“Too Big to Rig!”
I got the same feeling from the parts of his rally that I watched: He loved speaking to New Yorkers in New York, about New York. He IS New York. Everyone knows that. New York is where he is from, the place where he built his empire. It is his roots, his great love. Democrats may have made a mistake keeping him shackled there. He seems to be gaining more love there now than he did 4 years ago.
Trump grabs NYC by the pussy. He's doing great. He's hotter now than when he was president. When you're hot - presidential hot - NYC just lets you do it.
seemingly attempting to make inroads with ethnic minority voter
seemingly and attempting seem ODD qualifiers for IS making inroads
I am in love with The Professor. She gets it.
whatever.
The corrupt left know how to prevail. That's why they are sticking with the husk-puppet - Crook Joe.
Fascinating to see this rally there…. A few pundits theorized that Merchan held off closing arguments and jury deliberation in the hush money trial so that the jury members could “marinate” in NYC in the meantime, where everyone hates Trump. Could that have been a colossal mistake by Merchan?
One person who was interviewed at the rally, said he has a lot of respect for Trump to show up in the “hood hood”…. No president has ever done that before…. Trump is hot hot in the hood hood, it appears.
...... and NY Governor Hochul calls NY Trump supporters clowns. I suppose that's slightly better than deplorables. Hochul has been labeled the dumbest governor in the US. No argument here.
The press coverage seems divided between completely ignoring it (WSJ), bad faith interpretations of speech snippets, or trying to associate him with other sketchy participants on stage.
There is clear disappointment that the police kept a lid on any violence.
I just want to know roughly how many attended; the Times says over a thousand. Over a thousand is also true of most Yankee games.
Althouse did you see this part of Trump's speech? The "hard-working pratiishlik" part?
Or what about the "many languages" soliloquy?
Aaron Rupar's brilliant thread deconstructing the Trump Bronx speech.
From what I saw the ethnic make-up of the crowd was not reflective of the neighborhood where the rally took place. That does not matter, though. The interviews were all with non-whites and the headline is that Trump had a successful rally in the South Bronx.
MM said " bad faith interpretations of speech snippets"
Then Chuck arrives - to point out the left's bad faith.
He's made unprecedented inroads as a Republican in Black and Hispanic populations in particular. And what I find particularly fascinating is that his building inroads in a place like the Bronx DOES increase his support in actual battleground states among Black and Hispanic populations as well. It doesn't stay in one community.
He's making the democrats scramble and divert resources to areas they did not plan on - which weakens them.
Hot damn!
The MSM were/are doing their best to ignore this rally, but deep down you just know it's killing them to not give it wall-to-wall coverage.
Chucks said, "Althouse did you see this part of Trump's speech? The "hard-working pratiishlik" part?
Or what about the "many languages" soliloquy?
Aaron Rupar's brilliant thread deconstructing the Trump Bronx speech."
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Trump's Bronx rally grabbed Chuck by the pussy. Hell hath no fury like a triggered Chuck.
Aaron Rupar and the word “brilliant” mentioned in the same sentence?
Now THAT is funny!
Ah tractor rupar is amusing
Never-Biden Never-Putin said...
MM said " bad faith interpretations of speech snippets"
Then Chuck arrives - to point out the left's bad faith.
It's such a dirty trick; quoting Trump from his own speeches and then linking the video recordings
Trump is hot AF. You can thank the DNC the MSM the rogue district attorneys FBI agents and other persecutorial deep State Interlopers
Of course his stocks are rising in the minority community. We are getting to see how the government prosecutes Trump in the same exact manner in which it does to the poor and minorities using threats intimidation blackmail subterfuge and bending of the letter of the law.
Aaron Rupar's brilliant thread
Found Rupar's burner...
News coverage of Trump's Bronx speech was limited because most NYC reporters are too important (or too scared) to go to the south Bronx.
When I read the responses, I tend to not look at who wrote them - maybe I'm lazy or maybe I want to take in the flavor of the response/post without a preconceived notion of what direction the comment might go.
Every single time I read a post and get the feeling I have to take a shower after words, it turns out it was from LLR Chuck. It amazes me the physical reaction of the slime he spews - how it seeps thru the keyboard and into the inter-web to touch me in such a way.
Re: the Addendum — “Cruel neutrality” is a bitch when one side makes it damn impossible to be neutral.
Humperdink said...
...... and NY Governor Hochul calls NY Trump supporters clowns. I suppose that's slightly better than deplorables. Hochul has been labeled the dumbest governor in the US. No argument here.
Everyone calls Trump supporters something. We have adopted Deplorables.
Is Clowns a worse perjorative than Listless Vessels? Most Governors are mediocre people at best.
It is standard tribal bullshit of people looking down on people they view as lower class. Trump brought the working class back into politics and people just want to sniff their scented handkerchiefs.
Never-Biden Never-Putin said...
MM said " bad faith interpretations of speech snippets"
Then Chuck arrives - to point out the left's bad faith.
He is more exemplifying it than pointing it out.
I actually watched the entire speech for the first time since probably the early rallies in 2020 (I usually just scan the transcript if that since I can do that in about 1/10 the time it takes to listen)- he is much more animated today than he was in 2020.
Just wait until Trump fills Madison Square Garden.
There isn't any real reason to hedge- Trump is a New Yorker through and through- I don't doubt for a second that he loves the city even if he probably shouldn't love it so much.
Hard to believe Trump could be any hotter.
I think Chuck just doesn't get it- he thinks he is damaging Trump in some small way, but every comment he makes reinforces Trump in exactly that same small manner any commenter has.
Seriously, we will have to put Chuck on suicide watch if Trump wins in November.
its always a question whether Liberal/leftists/GOPe are too stupid to get Trump's humor, or whether they just prentend to be literal minded. But his humor is his most endering qualities.
It leaves him open to dishonest attacks, but its been going on for 8 years now, and most people understand the liberal Left and GOPe will lie about him and attack NO MATTER WHAT. So, they tune out the fake outrage "Trump said what?!"
Trump will lose NY but he likes campaigning there, and its May, so it wont hurt him. I worry he will waste time and money going after the black/Hispanic vote which he will never get, and alienate and lose college/white working class voters - which is where the key voters are. Blacks make up 12 percent of the electorate and if he gets 20 percent instead of 10 percent of the black vote, thats still only a gain of 1.2 percent.
You know what: we did so well in number one and we did even better in number two… we’ve got to do it again. I’m not doing it for myself, I’m doing it to make America great again....
If I saw that quote with no context, I'd assume Biden had pulled his arm away from Jill and stopped to talk to the WH press corps, gathered as always right outside the President's bathroom, ready to report on his movements.
Chuck said…
“Aaron Rupar's brilliant thread deconstructing the Trump Bronx speech.”
Thanks, Chuck, for reminding us why “to rupar” is a verb.
The standard Democrat approach for the black and Hispanic communities has been to treat ‘em like crap for 3 1/2 years and then appeal to solidarity with a handful of designated race-baiters like Jim Clyburn and Al Sharpton. But in 2023-2024 blacks and Hispanic were treated even worse than usual as Governor Abbott (and to a lesser extent DeSantis) transshipped border crossers to big cities, causing Democrat mayors in turn to take from the black community to bestow unbelievable largess on the immigrants. Also, the Democrats made a serious miscalculation assuming that appeals to solidarity would cause Hispanic voters to embrace the border crossers. Instead, the Democrats are driving Hispanic voters towards Trump.
The problem for the GOP is that these minorities are Trump voters, but not necessarily Republican voters. There’s a lot of work to do to turn them into Republican voters.
Seriously, we will have to put Chuck on suicide watch if Trump wins in November.
Same suicide watch that Jeffrey Epstein had? Asking for a friend.
It was a wonderful sight to behold! Would have loved to be there.
AMDG said...
"From what I saw the ethnic make-up of the crowd was not reflective of the neighborhood where the rally took place. That does not matter, though. The interviews were all with non-whites and the headline is that Trump had a successful rally in the South Bronx."
It must really gall you that minorities like Trump more than your choice of president and his policies. Loser.
Even seeing the quote in writing it's easy to see Trump's just joking around, having a little fun. The Left has zero sense of humor. The only thing they will laugh at is someone saying "fuck Trump." Otherwise they love to wallow in their unhappiness.
Hotness carries on hotness.
Big Mike: "The problem for the GOP is that these minorities are Trump voters, but not necessarily Republican voters. There’s a lot of work to do to turn them into Republican voters."
This is absolutely true and if the GOPe-ers believe they can "reset" the party once Trump is gone the GOP will go the way of the Whigs in about 17 milliseconds.
This is a once in a generation or two opportunity to fundamentally realign the parties in favor of the GOP with a broad based, diverse and growing working poor/working class/middle class base of voters and still with we have GOPe-ers doing everything in their power to throw it all away.
“Chuck is a clown” - governor hochel
Trump will not renovate the NY subway system if elected. Curbing immigration will not solve the problems in South Bronx. Joe Biden is not tired and senile. Trump can’t win with only the white nationalists, so he’s trolling for votes. He has no real answers for real people and doesn’t care, either. He wants four more years in the White House watching coverage of himself on the news and avoiding jail.
The rally was capped at 3,500, which is a tiny crowd. It is estimated perhaps 10,000 would have attended if they had expanded capacity. This is in a city with over 8 million people. NYC is heavily Democratic, but Republicans are still going to get more votes in NYC alone than they will get in the entire state of Wyoming. It's not just Trump.
The more Trump votes there are in Dem areas, the harder it will be coordinate ballot stuffing. To cheat brazenly, you need to be confident that all witnesses are on the same side.
I don't know how "hot" Trump is. But every time I see Biden I think he's approaching room temperature at a rapid pace.
Thanks, Chuck, for reminding us why “to rupar” is a verb.
LOL. I can't stress enough how liberating it is to skip over commenters who bring nothing constructive to this page. As demonstrated here, when they post something so boneheaded that you really should see it then at least one of our sensible commenters will highlight and distill the stupidity for you and add an appropriate comment, usually providing valuable context and wit. It's like a real-time Illuminated Reader's Digest version and we can read it all for free!
The interwebs are so cool. TGIF all!
LLR-democratical Rich: "Joe Biden is not tired and senile. Trump can’t win with only the white nationalists, so he’s trolling for votes."
LOL
You actually wrote that, looked at it, and then hit "publish"!
Amazing! There simply isnt any democratical rhetorical latrine you wont dive into headfirst! No wonder LLR-democratical And Violent Homosexual Rage Rape Fantasist Chuck adores you!
The only thing missing now is a pathetic "me too" comment from the tail end Charlie runt of the LLR-democratical litter, lonejustice.
Lets see what happens.....
Why is "Rich" still here?
As if _anyone_ would click on a link that Chuck puts up. You know it's gonna take you to a gay porn site.
Trump will not renovate the NY subway system if elected.
Good. Nor should he. The wealthiest city in the country, which taxes its citizens at confiscatory rates, can take care of their own fucking subway.
Curbing immigration will not solve the problems in South Bronx.
Horse shit. It will do much to fix crime, stagnant wages, high rents and home prices, and overwhelmed hospitals and other civic institutions, both in the Bronx and all over the country. It is perhaps the easiest and least controversial way to improve America's quality of life. Thumping majorities want it. The only reason the borders stay open is because the Democrats are the party of abortion, buggery, and childless careerist purple-haired wine-aunt cat ladies, doomed to go extinct in two generations if they don't import a new electorate.
Joe Biden is not tired and senile.
After years of delusional statements here, you've finally set a new benchmark. I have never before seen a statement so out of touch with reality on this site.
Trump can’t win with only the white nationalists, so he’s trolling for votes.
How DARE that wicked man broaden his coalition and embrace diversity!? Those minorities belong to US! This is OUR plantation!
The rally was capped at 3,500, which is a tiny crowd. It is estimated perhaps 10,000 would have attended if they had expanded capacity. This is in a city with over 8 million people. NYC is heavily Democratic, but Republicans are still going to get more votes in NYC alone than they will get in the entire state of Wyoming. It's not just Trump.
People sneered at the puny Doolittle Raid on Tokyo, too.
"Hot"? Well maybe. Jerry Reed had a sort of satirical country song back in the day where the line when "When you're hot, you're hot".
I watched part of the South Bronx rally yesterday. The strangest thing I saw was a big white cowboy hat on a Black preacher speaking to the folks and praising Trump. Who knew there were cowboys in the Bronx? But what the heck, the crowd there was eating it all up. And I thought to myself a rally for Joe Biden wouldn't fill the parking lot at a 7-11 store on a strip mall.
Trump said many times that he was going to hold his NY rally in Madison Square Garden. But he can’t afford that or fill it. So he held his rally at a park that holds 3,500 people.
Rich beclowning himself once again- how much do you suppose it costs to rent out Madison Square Garden for a night, Rich? The Trump Campaign spends more than that in just a week flying around the country holding rallies during a campaign.
Do you do anything competently, Rich? Anything at all?
LLR-democratical Rich: "Trump said many times that he was going to hold his NY rally in Madison Square Garden."
LOL
The lies become more and more pathetic. More gadfly and Howitzer Howard like.
Perhaps we should get some actual quotes instead of Rich's sad made up lies.
From NYC NBC Channel 4 News from back in April:
NBC Reporter: "Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee for president in 2024, said he is hoping to hold a rally at Madison Square Garden."
Trump: "We're going to be doing a rally at Madison Square Garden, we believe, we think we're signing Madison Square Garden to do. We're going to have a big rally honoring the police, and honoring the firemen, and everybody. Honoring a lot of people, including teachers by the way. We'll be honoring the people that make New York work,"
More NBC Reporter: "Trump also said he will be holding a number of large rallies, including one in the Bronx."
Thanks for playing Rich! Pick up your parting gift as you exit the stage. The gift is a series of graphic pornographic books dems/LLR's like making available to very young school children, just as LLR-democratical Chuck and David French have strongly defended.
Yancey Ward said.
Seriously, we will have to put Chuck on suicide watch if Trump wins in November.
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Myself, I would worry he would hole up in an aprtment with Bill Ayers-Kathy Boudin style radicals and start putting together IEDs for use at Trump events.
Someone should monitor Chuck's pressure cooker purchases.
Rich: The area around MSG is filthy and crowded. I'm certain he could fill it with people travelling into the city with enough advance notice. But he's in the middle of a trial. No chance for reserving it so fast, nor people arranging to get there.
And everyone I know in the region who would definitely want to see Trump have just as definitely decided that travel into NYC is dangerous and unpleasant because of Democrat-fomented crime. And these are people who have been going into the city for for decades. Plus, they have jobs.
The park speech was pretty smart. Good setting, home turf, and a turnout Biden couldn't rival, even in blood-blue NYC. It played well on the media, and that's the other point.
"Someone should monitor Chuck's pressure cooker purchases.
Chuck is too stupid to build IEDs, even with the help of the internet.
Twice now, "Rich" has claimed that only 3,500 people could have come to Trump's rally because the capacity of the park was 3,500. He won't outright lie and say that only 3,500 people attended because obviously much more than that amount gathered. Perhaps 10,000. Who knows? Can't trust the Legacy Media for an honest account of anything.
Or "Rich". Then he pulls the MSG strawman out of his ass. Trying to pose Trump's intentions as a lie. Did he not watch any of Biden's appearances this week? When SloJoe is not failing to complete a coherent sentence or know who he is addressing, where he is, or what his comments were supposed to be about -- he just lies.
"Rich" enjoys parading his TDS around every time he gets off the short bus.
Not to drop a turd in the punchbowl, but here's an overhead shot of the Bronx rally:
https://am11.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2024/05/Screenshot-2024-05-24-at-7.32.56%E2%80%AFAM-1200x677.jpg
Yeah, it's a screenshot from ABC News, but it "appears" real.
It also "appears" to have been taken when Trump was on-stage.
NO WAY that's 20,000+ people. even 3,500 seems high.
Anyone have any other overhead shots to point to for confirmation, or otherwise?
“NO WAY that's 20,000+ people. even 3,500 seems high.
Anyone have any other overhead shots to point to for confirmation, or otherwise?“
This seems a golden opportunity for Biden to hold his own rally in the very same park in the Bronx and show that he can draw thousands and thousands of supporters more than Trump did. Joe could tout all the ways he has built the Bronx back better.
Is that supposed to be a live shot? The time on the screen is 11:09. Trump went on at 6:30 PM.
JaimeRoberto said...
Is that supposed to be a live shot? The time on the screen is 11:09. Trump went on at 6:30 PM.
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Good question. Maybe it was taken during the rally and shown that night, displaying the later broadcast time. Trump certainly wasn't there at 11 AM.
Here's a video of the event itself. If you look closely as the camera pans, you can see Secret Service guys in position at the same locations shown in the overhead shot. Taken at ground level, it's not much help in determining overall crowd size, but the depth of the attendees along that fence behind the podium is consistent with the overhead view.
https://x.com/i/status/1794059297988513875
One would think libruls would enjoy seeing such a diverse, multi-cultural crowd! But no.
"Clowns", Hochul called them.
Assuming that overhead shot is accurate, I took a 10 person x 10 person square and then counted the number of such squares in the picture and came up with about 3000 people. Admittedly this is a SWAG, but it is in line with the number of people on the permit. It also doesn't count the number of people outside the barriers who couldn't get in.
Hochul has been labeled the dumbest governor in the US.
/Jay Inslee waves from the back of the room
'This seems a golden opportunity for Biden to hold his own rally in the very same park in the Bronx and show that he can draw thousands and thousands of supporters more than Trump did. Joe could tout all the ways he has built the Bronx back better.'
The Soros democrats have a well-oiled mob machine in place and no doubt could get a big crowd together.
Of course, most of them would be paid to be there.
These are Springsteenesgue lyrics.
Hiring actors who answered a casting call for a $50 gig dubbed, “not a traditional ‘background job,’” was the only way Donald Trump could draw a crowd when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.
“Wow. Woah. That is some group of people. Thousands!” he exclaimed of the two dozen who cheered on cue in the lobby of Trump Tower at the time.
Trumpworld is once again splintering from reality. This time, the diversion also relates to counting—specifically, how many people attended Donald Trump’s rally in the Bronx on Thursday.
Trump, who has long obsessed over the size of crowds at his events, shared an article from Right Side Broadcasting Network to his Truth Social account that quoted the Trump campaign as saying 25,000 people attended the “electrifying” event.
But aerial footage of the event, and The Daily Beast’s reporter on the ground, told a different story. ABC7’s coverage of the event showed a much smaller crowd located in an amphitheater at Crotona Park. The Daily Beast had a reporter in attendance, who estimated that about 1,000 people were there.
Sorry MAGAts, AOC was right when she opined that Trump's rally in South Bronx would fail.
"If I saw that quote with no context, I'd assume Biden had pulled his arm away from Jill and stopped to talk to the WH press corps, gathered as always right outside the President's bathroom, ready to report on his movements."
That's gold, Jerry! Gold!
'Sorry MAGAts, AOC was right when she opined that Trump's rally in South Bronx would fail.'
You won't even concede observable facts so you are not a serious person, but a low-IQ political shill.
I hated Obama with every atom in my body, but I've always conceded that he is smart, a great speaker, and could draw a crowd.
All observable facts.
But then again, I'm not a low-IQ shill...
Poor Gadfly will grasp at anything.
You make us laugh Gadfly.
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