WaPo reports.
For one reason or another, every one of these criminal cases against Trump is getting delayed:
[I]n Washington, D.C., where he is charged with conspiring to block the 2020 election results, the court is waiting for the Supreme Court to rule on Trump’s claims of presidential immunity; In Florida, where he is charged with mishandling classified documents and obstructing justice, the judge is still weighing a host of complex legal issues, many of them revolving around national security sensitivities; and in Georgia, state prosecutors have been embroiled in a two-month legal drama over a personal relationship that probably will force one of the key lawyers off the case.
All those charges, all coming at Trump at once, and not one of them seems able to squeeze into the dwindling space left on the time line before the election. 91 charges! How could he not be a convicted felon by election day? So many people were counting on it. So painful for them.
UPDATE: The judge has granted a 30-day delay. That's what the prosecutors requested. Trump's lawyers asked for a 90-day delay.
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In a prior comment I suggested the Trump folk ask for much more than 30 days. With the volume described, 90 seems short too.
How many days does it take to read 100,000 legal documents! More than thirty. What the f are these judges about anyway!
October surprises.
Paying hush money is not a crime. Prosecting someone for paying hush money is.
Is Trump going to sue the AG and the DA for civil rights abuse? Should be interesting. I can here the barbarians, I mean Democrats, screams right now.
“For some reason” seems to have monkey business as a common factor.
The prosecutors will not read all those 15000 pages. Trump will.
Court cases tend to be delayed.
Most if not all of the cases could have been filed much sooner, but they weren't because they were deliberately timed to coincide with the election. They are political trials, not serious attempts at justice.
Delay of game... penalty?
Excellent Clown Show, however.
Saving their democracy requires a lot of lies.
They need to be horsewhipped. This isn't done in "regular" cases, much less one involving an ex-President and present candidate.
For one reason or another, every one of these criminal cases against Trump is getting delayed:
The reason seems to be prosecutorial misconduct.
Prosecutors say it's irrelevant and Trump says it's exculpatory, this is needless delay, we already know exactly what the jury thinks, like in Alice in Wonderland, it's sentence first, then the verdict, then the trial.
Incidentally, French President Macron says that he has been informed that Trump will never become president.
I would like to see a list of the men who have gone to prison over an infraction like this, assuming he's guilty for the sake of argument, absent any other wrongdoing.
Trump is accused of scheming to cover up his payment of hush money in 2016 to hide from the public an alleged sexual liaison years earlier with an adult-film actress.
Isn't that the whole point of an NDA, keeping disclosures from going public, irrespective of whether the accusation is true or not?
And how would the "public" ever know what entries are made in the ledger of a private company? My understanding is the ledger was marked legal services for a check payable to his attorney's law firm who settled the claim.
I am sure that the prosecutors went with 30 days, rather than 90, out of an abundance of concern that the sentence be imposed in time. The show trial being a formality that unfortunately must be undergone out of the concern for "norms."
If the cases keep getting delayed, when Trump wins, they can throw up their hands at his Attorney General withdrawing the federal cases, and the county DAs can just throw up their hands, with the full complicity of the media screeching that he has escaped justice by the nefarious means of winning the presidency. It will be their (first) attempt to cripple his second administration like they used Russia to cripple his first administration.
"In recent days, federal prosecutors turned over more than 100,000 pages of documents...."
How can there possibly be 100,000 pages of relevant documents about this???? War and Peace is only 1,225 pages.
I know there are a lot of commenters here with legal expertise, so I ask them: Prosecutors are required to turn over evidence that the defense might use in a trial. Is there any reason that the prosecutors can’t wait and turn it all over the day before the trial begins to make sure that the defense can’t review it in time to use it during the trial? It looks to me like that’s what’s going on here, but I don’t have enough legal knowledge to know how this might be prohibited.
For one reason or another, every one of these criminal cases against Trump is getting delayed:
It’s called the October Surprise.
The rush deadline for Dems to convict Trump is the GOP convention, not the November election.
Once Trump is the GOP's candidate, if the economy and world events continue to head in the direction they are now headed, and as a result of Trump's incarceration Biden or Harris were to take a second term by default or hook or crook, there will be widespread discontent.
Tells me the Dems are under tremendous pressure to get rid of Biden and Harris by their convention to preserve the illusion of change and the promise of a new direction come November if removing Trump through lawfare is their election strategy.
They are all being delayed because they are all bogus and the judges don't have the nerve to dismiss them. If selective prosecution becomes grounds for dismissal, they will all melt away regardless of what happens in November. And it is only for show that there are 91 charges. The prosecutors in more than one case have taken one allegedly illegal act and charged each separate statement or claim connected to that act as a separate felony, which they would never do with any other defendant. The Democrats are turning out system of justice into a clown show.
Justice delayed, is justice politicised.
How quickly are we prosecuting people illegally crossing the border?
to hide from the public an alleged sexual liaison
funny, how THE ENTIRE WORLD knew all about it then?
Dems did pretty much the same things with MLK, FBI files on whom will be eligible to be made public in 27. Cowinkie dinkie?
"How many days does it take to read 100,000 legal documents! More than thirty."
Heh. If it was a 100,000 page spending bill authored by the Democrats, they'd expect a vote the next day.
"They need to be horsewhipped."
They need to die in a fire.
"The Democrats are turning out system of justice into a clown show."
Some might say that ship has sailed.
Bragg, Smith, James, Willis. RICO.
@H
Attorney Vincent Gambino has experience with last-minute witnesses (Youtube).
100,000 pages of documents allegedly relating to paying an extortionist to go away. Which is not a crime, although extortion is.
War and Peace is about 1200 pages.
What crap.
"Is there any reason that the prosecutors can’t wait and turn it all over the day before the trial begins to make sure that the defense can’t review it in time to use it during the trial?"
Even Kangaroo Courts have rules.
Loudogblog--I posted before I read the comments.
Great minds think alike, and fools rarely differ. Heh.
Most of us get our ideas of what trials and legal proceeding are all about from novels, movies and TV shows. Anyone who's read a Grisham novel or seen one the movies is familiar with this tactic of burying the opposition in paperwork at the last minute. In fiction, it's always the bad guys who do this. It's the scheming, elite lawyers from the giant firm representing a tobacco company or a chemical company or it's a corrupt prosecutor who's in bed with the real criminal. The reason this tactic is in all those legal stories is because it makes people mad. It makes people mad because it's unfair, it's an attempt to use the system to cover up the truth, not uncover it. It's an attempt to deprive victim of a fair trial. Americans don't like unfair, especially in the legal system.
What kind of person thinks to themselves, unfair is good in some cases? A bad verdict is good in some cases?
The entire series of Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey/Maturin novels is about 7000 pages. 20 novels. None of them short.
This is the case in which the alleged activity was not a crime under NY State law but the prosecutor asserts that it was a federal crime and even though the DOJ investigated and determined that there was no provable federal case he, Bragg, is combining those two conflicting facts to create a unique cause of action.
He's trying a federal case in a state court. Another historic first!
Thus the DOJ documents are critical. I can't imagine that the DOJ's long delay in turning over the documents was to aid Trump.
Trash. The lot of them.
The entire series of Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey/Maturin novels is about 7000 pages. 20 novels. None of them short.
Is there any reason that the prosecutors can’t wait and turn it all over the day before the trial begins to make sure that the defense can’t review it in time to use it during the trial? It looks to me like that’s what’s going on here, but I don’t have enough legal knowledge to know how this might be prohibited.
Not a lawyer, but I think that the deadlines are set by the judge when all evidence from both sides needs to be turned over to the other, well in advance of the trial.
"If the cases keep getting delayed, when Trump wins, they can throw up their hands at his Attorney General withdrawing the federal cases, and the county DAs can just throw up their hands, with the full complicity of the media screeching that he has escaped justice by the nefarious means of winning the presidency. It will be their (first) attempt to cripple his second administration like they used Russia to cripple his first administration.
Bet they impeach him for it.
To read 100,000 docs in thirty days. In an 8 hour day you would need to read 7 docs per minute. I think there would be a risk that the attorney may miss something, but the judge seems to not care. The attorney may take lunch or a coffee and miss a lot of docs.
Trump is destroying trees!
H: "Is there any reason that the prosecutors can’t wait and turn it all over the day before the trial begins to make sure that the defense can’t review it in time to use it during the trial?"
So far the delay will result in a continuance. In the case of Republican prosecutors such a delay is unethical. For today's Democrats, particularly DOJ prosecutors, not so much. /S
15,000 pages? Maybe it's the Gulag Archipelago. A prison guard on page 12,531 seems Trump-like.
"What kind of person thinks to themselves, unfair is good in some cases?"
A Democrat, of course.
I'm surprised no one has made the obvious observation. It may well be that something is hidden with in those 150,000 pages that the hope will be overlooked in a 30 day review. Something partially exculpatory. That's why there are so many pages.
The prosecutors will not read all those 15000 pages. Trump will.
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since Trump can spend more money to hire more people to read than prosecuting DA's office
Is there any evidence that he had sex with stormy Daniels?
She denies it, I think under oath. He denied it. Under oath?
John Henry
Josephbleau said...
“How many days does it take to read 100,000 legal documents! More than thirty. What the f are these judges about anyway!”
It seems like it’s a cousin to the idea that “We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it.”
Wouldn't a one page summary be sufficient? What a waste of paper and electrical power, what a horrendous carbon footprint. Someone should be fined.
What could possibly be in those 150m pages?
The case seems simple enough as I understand it.
Did he pay her a bunch of money to keep quiet? Doesn't everyone already agree this is true?
Is that illegal? The more I read about the case the less I understand how.
What else is there?
John Henry
Wouldn't a one page summary be sufficient? What a waste of paper and electrical power, what a horrendous carbon footprint. Someone should be fined.
The 9th circuit Court has ordered Daniel's to pay donald trump about $600-700m so far.
Has she paid any of it?
John Henry
Wouldn't a one page summary be sufficient? What a waste of paper and electrical power, what a horrendous carbon footprint. Someone should be fined.
Because of course they will. It's a production line, and new things will be added on a regular basis all the way up to the election and beyond. Can't have people focusing all of their attention on groceries, inflation, national debt, foreign adventures, and The Swamp, now can we?
The only reasonable conclusion for the tardiness in complying with the law is that those documents have exculpatory evidence, prosecutors and/or their handlers, don't want revealed.
We see that with some frequency now, agencies not complying with lawful mandates.
There must be something creating this environment of rampant evasion.
A case that doesn't make sense is hard to prepare for correctly. Rules get made up as you go along.
Did he pay her a bunch of money to keep quiet? Doesn't everyone already agree this is true?
Is that illegal? The more I read about the case the less I understand how.
What else is there?
The crime wasn't paying her off, but how it was recorded in his corporate records: his lawyer paid her off and he reimbursed the lawyer in monthly installments and recorded the payments as something else. Normally this would be a misdemeanor and the statute of limitations would already have run out. Bragg got around that because the law raises the crime to a felony- with a longer statute of limitations- if the fraudulent accounting is done to cover up another crime. In Trump's case, Bragg is claiming that the lawyer's payment was a campaign contribution, and thus a campaign finance violation. The problem is that the FEC investigated the whole thing and determined that it wasn't a violation.
If the prosecution in such a high profile case was trying to throw the case what more could they do to mess it up?
I smell bull dung and gamesmanship here. How could there be thousands of pages of documents relating to one payment of money to one demimondaine (a nice word for Stormy) 7 or more years ago?
Where did all this paper come from--and why is it appearing so late in the game? What were the prosecutors sitting on --or is this just one more litigators trick (been there and done that myself long ago) to inundate the other side with paper?
why assume 150,000 is all the documents?
if I want to prevent your finding 'my needle' in 'my haystack' best strategy is for me to take out the needle and offer you the haystack!
15,000 pages? "AI. A two-page summmary please ... "
Original Mike said...
Bet they impeach him for it.
this assumes two things:
1) Trump is elected
2) the republicans lose the House
IF both of those two happen.. Then YEAH; they'll impeach him for something;
But it's hard to imagine #1 happening at the same time as #2
I Suppose you mean, they'll impeach him in 2027?
Hmmm. 15000 pages?
That's a lot of coloring for any NY DA team!
30 days and lotsa Crayons.
The 2024 results have already been tabulated. Stop participating in the charade that once was a republic. These cases are all justification theater for the masses. Consider refusing to buy a ticket. Many can see what’s coming rather clearly.
Another high-speed rail boondoogle. Brightline want so build a 218-mi bullet train from Cucamonga, California to Lost Wages, I mean Las Vegas, along the I-15 right of way. The Biden Crime Family regime is ponying up $3.5B to support it.
That train line has to climb Cajon Pass to reach the high desert. That's a climb to 3,777-ft MSL. Snoqualmie Pass is 3,000-ft and Stevens Pass is 4,000-ft. The BNSF RR dug a 7+ mile tunnel under Stevens Pass to avoid climbing all the way to the pass. That tunnel limits the number of trains a day to about 20 because of diesel fumes.
My prediction of total cost of the line will be $0.5B/mile, or $109B total system cost.
The problem is that the FEC investigated the whole thing and determined that it wasn't a violation.
Actually, this is untrue. The FEC could not reach a consensus on whether to proceed with the investigation. They dropped the case but did not reach a conclusion.
The prosecutors are becoming increasingly reckless and desperate. I wonder if it might have something to do with their fear that they might not succeed in preventing Trump’s return to the Oval Office?
Mike of Snoqualmie said...Paying hush money is not a crime.
Quite right. “Hush money” is just a scary term for “non-disclosure agreement.” It’s normal business practice. Not only is it legal, it’s moral, it’s common, most businessmen would tell you it’s prudent.
Has anyone explained how there could be thousands, much less hundreds of thousands, of pages of documents in connection with Trump paying Daniels a paltry sum in a NDA? At most, there would be a few emails, the drafts and final copy of the NDA, and copies of checks and the accounting ledger. What else would there be and why is this evidence just now being turned over to the defense?
Politicians, celebrities, and prominent businessmen enter into these agreements and pay these sums quite often. It is cheaper and less troubling to do so rather than making a public deal out of the issue and wasting time and legal expenses fighting an accusation. It's obvious this entire prosecution is just another "Get Trump" scheme. How do these prosecutors keep getting away with such warped indictments? Personal expense or campaign expense? Reasonable arguments can be made for the payment being categorized either way. But, if wrong, a small fine is usually the norm.
still a bit confused as to what crime has been committed.
Creative thinking says the Destroy America guys know Trump will win again, so they are setting up the Lawfare War to crescendo after Trump is inaugurated. That way they hedge their bets. If their paid for fraudulent vote count doesn’t work again, then The Orange Monster will be controlled lthe same way Russiagate run by the media 24/7 controlled him Lin the first term before the Wuhan bioweapon opened up fraudulent mail in votes in 2000.
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Original Mike said...
Bet they impeach him for it.
this assumes two things:
1) Trump is elected
2) the republicans lose the House
IF both of those two happen.. Then YEAH; they'll impeach him for something;
But it's hard to imagine #1 happening at the same time as #2
I Suppose you mean, they'll impeach him in 2027?
3/16/24, 5:31 AM
Assuming on point 2 that the Republicans are actual Republicans...
How to destroy a legal reputation in two steps:
1) Become a prosecutor.
2) Indict Donald Trump.
Just calling it "hush money" does not make it a crime. Politicians (Gary Hart?) have gotten in trouble using campaign finance $ to pay off a mistress, but Trump used his own money. How could there be 100,000 pages about this? Nuts.
Haha this is incredible. All the fake dominoes are falling flat as the good Lord intended.
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