November 2, 2023
"Faced with a demographic crisis, a slowing economy and what it views as a stubborn rise of feminism, the party has chosen to push women back into the home..."
"... calling on them to rear the young and care for the old. The work, in the words of Mr. Xi, is essential for 'China’s path to modernization.'"
"'We should actively foster a new type of marriage and childbearing culture,' [Xi Jinping] said in a speech, adding that it was the role of party officials to influence young people’s views on 'love and marriage, fertility and family.'"
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They can no longer afford the luxury beliefs of the liberal west. Women have the babies. That is the one irreducible fact a society cannot ignore if they need to increase their birthrate.
path to modernization
It's Finally Time,
that people realize that that Greatest threat to modernization is (and was) the 19th amendment
This oughtta be good.
Well he isn't wrong, now is he?
This is the approach Japan has taken, making it socially unacceptable for a woman to keep working after she gets married. It's been a massive failure. In response, women increasingly just don't get married. They don't want to stay home alone all day with no one but a toddler to talk to.
If a society wants to raise its birthrate, it has to stop pretending that only women can raise children and make it a regular thing for men to quit their jobs and stay home for a few years.
The fem-o-left hive in America are terrified of The Handmaid's Tale. LOL.
Chi Coms just delivered the goods. We wait for American fem-o-left hive to protest Xi.
*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Let%27s+Get+It+On+%E2%80%93+Marvin+Gaye.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS960US960&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f9ab1ebc,vid:CoOXbP7hmc0,st:0
Yup.
Socialism, am I right?
Yes, I know officially it is communism. But communism is just the total bureaucratic control version of socialism.
"There is the Soviet pattern of all-round socialization of all enterprises and their outright bureaucratic management; there is the German pattern of Zwangswirtschaft, towards the complete adoption of which the Anglo-Saxon countries are manifestly tending; there is guild socialism, under the name of corporativism still very popular in some Catholic countries. There are many other varieties."
von Mises, Ludwig (1947). Planned Chaos
But hey, remember all that great sex the women of the Soviet Union had under communism the NY Times went on and on about. Well, the women have that to look forward to in the future.
Do they make sammiches in China?
It's so much too late for them it's not funny. Actually it is, kinda, for those of us who prefer the West to the Middle Kingdom.
Planned their way to incipient collapse, the stupid buggers.
Biden speech overlooking the Great Wall: Mr Xi tear down this wall.
"it has to stop pretending that only women can raise children and make it a regular thing for men to quit their jobs and stay home for a few years."
So- who's going to take the place of all those roofers, bricklayers and garbage men that take a few years off to raise their kids? Women won't.
The ChiComs got to triple the birth rate fast. Somebody needs to tell Mr Red China to make the Roman Catholics the official Religion of the Chinese Empire. It worked for Constantine.
“Power springs from the lips of the potsticker.”
—- Chairman Meow
The USSR followed a similar path. In 1920 they made abortion legal and divorce easy. But then they became worried about population. Abortion was discouraged, and then
On May 26, 1936 the draft of a law “On the Protection of Motherhood and Childhood” was published in Soviet newspapers with an appeal for public discussion of its contents. The draft included measures aimed at “combating light-minded attitudes towards the family and family obligations,”
A country without young people would lack sufficient soldiers, among other evils, and Europe and vicinity was not a safe place. Russia was not alone in worrying about that, European countries had been expressing similar worries for some time.
So- who's going to take the place of all those roofers, bricklayers and garbage men
Try telling people that they have to quit their jobs and collect garbage for the good of society. At no pay, while their spouse supports them. That's supposed to be an attractive argument, right?
I read the AA highlighted portion and first thought it was a NYT story about R's in America.
The eugenic societies always attach themselves onto the group at the top of society in a parasitic kind of way and try to get that group to accept eugenic beliefs. For that reason the direction of the policies of these societies is a miner's canary, a signal of the true direction of the most powerful groups in English and American society. Starting around the year 2000 the English and American eugenics societies changed direction and instead of supporting population control began studying how to raise the birthrate in Europe and America led by the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Germany. Complete failure. Why? There are societies and sections within societies which still have a birthrate at replacement level or above. So it was thought at first that the eugenic societies could find and promote the practices that kept the birthrate up in these successful societies. But it didn't work because the eugenicists wanted to raise the birthrate among the atheistic socialists in societies like the European Union or Russia whereas the societies that had children were all traditional societies in Africa or the Mid-East with a belief in God or they were the sections of atheistic societies in the West that still were Christian, Muslim or Jewish believers. (Not followers of tradition - believers. What is the visible difference? Having children.) Putin was shrewd enough to see the need for religion to counter demographic decline and he rebuilt churches and tried to re-tradionalize Russia but he was never able to persuade anyone that he and his circle believed in anything but power. Now China is making the same attempt and will fail for the same reason.
When Putin saw he was failing to rebuild the birth rate by faking Christianity, he decided to grab the Ukraine. The Americans solved the problem with illegal immigration. So that's something to think about.
"it was the role of party officials to influence young people’s views on 'love and marriage, fertility and family"
A couple of decades ago the party officials influenced young people to have one child. Forced abortion of the extras was also part of their influence.
It's a Greek tragedy.
On the whole, women are strongly influenced by social pressure and contagions and by female animal nature. Women look to each other for cues about proper female life. As transgender males dominate sports and come into female bathrooms, bio-women are experiencing the reducto ad absurdum of post-1960s women's liberation.
But biology and instincts are extremely strong, whereby women's interests can be easily refocused and recalibrated to motherhood and caregiving roles. Witness the rapid (and tolerated) traditional role transformation in Afghanistan, and in Iran before that. Women in reproductive mode will aggressively and negatively discuss "barren women" without children and how sad they must be. Many seemingly forget about "choice" and worry about the guilt and emptiness of not having or losing any child.
None of this is necessarily "right" or "wrong" -- but some behavior patterns are sustainable over generations while others are not. Only sustainable behaviors will continue.
"So- who's going to take the place of all those roofers, bricklayers and garbage men that take a few years off to raise their kids? Women won't."
Technology will replace the garbage men. Around here (Boston area) we have "toters", wheeled garbage cans with flip lids that are collected by trucks with mechanical arms. The driver controls the arm and occasionally gets out to, say, restand a toter that the wind has knocked over. (Bulk items are a separate collection, requiring a permit).
I don't know if Xi has a decent answer, but he has noticed something that is real: If women are told that "wife and mother" is an inferior occupation, and they are free not to do it, the birth rate will fall well below replacement.
I don't know if there is a decent answer. It's a lot more fun to worry about the names of birds.
---So- who's going to take the place of all those roofers, bricklayers and garbage men that take a few years off to raise their kids? Women won't.
Mason, don't you know? AI.
"Technology will replace the garbage men."
Ok. So that job is no longer being done by a man and he'll be able to stay home forever instead of just a couple of years. But then, the paychecks are going to stop forever, too. I imagine that could be a problem for some people.
Yeah, just like everyone else. Actually, Enigma, these ads are directed at both genders but primarily to males. Women aren't more malleable. They're more aware of their own biological clock.
Some books, like Mothers in the Fatherland, use this type of microscopic analysis to advance a cause.
The USSR, the Nazis, and the Italian fascists all promoted fertility with medals and monetary awards for particularly fecund women (of the right sort, of course). Most European countries had such policies at one time or another in the 20th C IIRC.
I wouldn't mind seeing Christians and Jews everywhere pick up the pace, but nobody needs more Muslims.
Tom T. said...
This is the approach Japan has taken, making it socially unacceptable for a woman to keep working after she gets married. It's been a massive failure. In response, women increasingly just don't get married. They don't want to stay home alone all day with no one but a toddler to talk to.
During the US baby boom, they di not only have toddlers to talk to.
They had the other mothers to talk with
If a society wants to raise its birthrate, it has to stop pretending that only women can raise children and make it a regular thing for men to quit their jobs and stay home for a few years.
90% of teh time, the women will be more interested in raising the kids, and better at it.
You are free to deny evolution, science, and all human history. But the reality is that essentially every single human society that had / has population growing, had the women staying home to do it, and the men out working full time.
I'm so sorry reality offends you. Actually, I'm not. Be it this, or the trans delusion, or whatever, when reality opposes your feelings, it's realty that should win
Tom T. said...
This is the approach Japan has taken, making it socially unacceptable for a woman to keep working after she gets married. It's been a massive failure. In response, women increasingly just don't get married. They don't want to stay home alone all day with no one but a toddler to talk to.
The implication of the last sentence is that men should take up the "non-fulfilling" child rearing role. If a husband and wife don't find child rearing as fulfilling, they shouldn't have children.
The other assumption is that women, who are 50% of the population can't figure out how to structure the job in any other way than staying home alone.
A number of years ago during a rant by my sister of the shortcomings of men and how they don't do their share, I said "I would love to stay home and raise our children... go to their school plays, teach them how to hunt, fish, go camping and enjoy nature rather than worry all the time about how I would support the family if my business went bad and I was out of work. And I would love to not have the unrelenting pressure to increase productivity by 20-30% each year." That was just about the end of the discussion. I am not sure if she hated the thought of men actually enjoying raising kids or not.
I think for many feminists, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Roger Sweeny said...
"So- who's going to take the place of all those roofers, bricklayers and garbage men that take a few years off to raise their kids? Women won't."
Technology will replace the garbage men.
Now that brings up an idea. Why not have robots and AI completely take over the child rearing process. We could even make government run "child camps" where the children could be reared for the first 18 years of their lives without any effort expended by their parents. No more terrible twos, no more early teen rebellion. O wouldn't it be lovely!!!
Or perhaps not.
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