The blog — of its own accord — had a theme of "Order and Chaos," I'd realized, as I was walking toward the sunrise this morning.
Only one post had that "Order and Chaos" tag — possibly my favorite tag (the other contenders being "Light and Shade" and "Big and Small") — "The man just loves chaos." But was "that man," Matt Gaetz, the greatest agent of chaos on the blog so far? What about Rudy Giuliani? Michael Zack? The man who killed Ryan Carson? Bataa Mishigish?
I knew if I put the characters in order of order, it would be all out of order, but I wanted to make the list anyway, just to see how easy it would be to argue that the order is wrong, and that some of the characters that seem to represent order could be said to represent chaos:
1. The Dalai Lama who forbade the monks to yield to the mother and search for another boy.
2. Bataa Mishigish and the other Mongolian monks who found the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
3. Governor DeSantis, who declined to save a murderer from the death penalty.
4. The woman who did not run away as Ryan Carson was stabbed.
5. Ryan Carson, community activist, poet, and murder victim, who may have looked at a man who was kicking scooters on the street at 4 a.m.
I knew if I put the characters in order of order, it would be all out of order, but I wanted to make the list anyway, just to see how easy it would be to argue that the order is wrong, and that some of the characters that seem to represent order could be said to represent chaos:
2. Bataa Mishigish and the other Mongolian monks who found the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
3. Governor DeSantis, who declined to save a murderer from the death penalty.
4. The woman who did not run away as Ryan Carson was stabbed.
5. Ryan Carson, community activist, poet, and murder victim, who may have looked at a man who was kicking scooters on the street at 4 a.m.
6. Donald Trump, who might have listened to the advice of a drunken Giuliani and who doesn't have as much money as he used to.
7. A. Altannar, still a boy, but training as the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
8. Ms. Munkhnasan, who objected at first, but allowed her little boy (and his twin) to be trained as the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
9. Matt Gaetz who called for a vote that took the speakership away from Kevin McCarthy.
7. A. Altannar, still a boy, but training as the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
8. Ms. Munkhnasan, who objected at first, but allowed her little boy (and his twin) to be trained as the 10th reincarnation of the Bogd.
9. Matt Gaetz who called for a vote that took the speakership away from Kevin McCarthy.
10. Rudy Giuliani, who seems to have declined into alcoholism.
11. Michael Zack, who suffered terrible abuse in childhood, but went on to kill two women, and who, prior to receiving the death penalty, expressed love and forgiveness to Governor DeSantis.
12. Michael Zack's sister, who killed her mother with an ax.
13. The man who stabbed Ryan Carson multiple times, spit on the woman, and then walked off.
11. Michael Zack, who suffered terrible abuse in childhood, but went on to kill two women, and who, prior to receiving the death penalty, expressed love and forgiveness to Governor DeSantis.
12. Michael Zack's sister, who killed her mother with an ax.
13. The man who stabbed Ryan Carson multiple times, spit on the woman, and then walked off.
That can't be right.
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I knew chaos. I don't like chaos. I like everything regular.
What they all have in common is clickbait.
Yah it can’t be right but could it ever? Reporter Ngo correctly reports the Ryan guy identified himself as an Antifa member and all the propaganda outlets are calling him a social justice advocate, which is code for a paid chaostician. That he should be credited with more order than Trump who is defending himself against a chaotic justice system…well, that seems like a great injustice…
…and some on the list foment chaos while others have chaos thrust upon them. The list doesn’t care but I guess that’s your point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pci3TUFwCfg
My favorite thing about the USA is how the proportionate meaning of words people think they know the meaning of doesn't match the actual real meaning of the word as shown in the dictionary. I.E. when we usually use the word "chaos" in this country it is to use out of all proportionate meaning to what it should realistically represent. 99% of Americans...99% of people in the 'developed' world have no fucking clue what "chaos" really means. If you want to see what chaos actually looks like in proportionate representation to what it actually means, go to a favela in Rio De Janeiro. Go to Zanzibar. Go to Sanaa.
Funny thing about chaos is that it always shows up and reminds you that it's there even when you're supposedly expecting it. But that's the thing about chaos, you really can never prepare for it...because it is chaos. For instance one time in 2006 just outside the Green Zone on a return run along Route Irish me and my driver were coming back from the airport after picking up sensitive documents:
Me: That looks like a good place for falafel
Sgt: Yeah. Crowded is always a good sign
(dead body)
Me: Yeah ham & lima bean MRE is sounding pretty good right about now, how bout' you sgt?
Perception defines reality. 99% of all of us have no idea what real, pervasive, ever present chaos really is.
declined into alcoholism
Alcoholism is a disease. Like cancer. A person doesn't CHOOSE to be an alcoholic, Ann. They are afflicted by it.
Having corrected you on that, I suppose if a person suffers from PTSD from having their city attacked by Saudi Arabia, then see that the United States refuses to defeat those people and sees the President of the United States literally bowing down to Saudi rulers ... that might cause a man who loves his country to turn to the bottle in despair.
I may not agree with the Buddhist choices, but that doesn't mean they're chaotic. They follow an ordered system to the letter. If your list includes them as an example of order, then they deserve their spot at the top.
"Outta order? I'll show you outta order! You don't know what outta order is, Mr. Trask! I'd show you but I'm too old; I'm too tired; I'm too fuckin' blind. If I were the man I was five years ago I'd take a FLAME-THROWER to this place! Outta order. Who the hell you think you're talkin' to?"
Let us note that the entire Democrat party supported and voted for chaos. Immediate consequence Nancy Pelosi lost her cushy office. Second consequence ought be that Democrats get a less friendly speaker. Republicans should punish the 200 not the 8.
Not for nothing but the world is swirling in chaos. Maybe it’s time for Congress to deal with the chaos they helped unleash on the world.
@Buckwheathikes wrote: "Alcoholism is a disease. Like cancer. A person doesn't CHOOSE to be an alcoholic, Ann. They are afflicted by it."
To state the obvious, if one does not have alcohol around they will not and cannot be a diagnosed alcoholic. One can either manufacture or buy alcohol, but must consume it in large quantities for it to affect their bodies and brains. However, intoxicating quantities of alcohol aren't common in nature (just rotten fruit really), so usage is largely intentional.
On the other hand, cancers result from genetic mutations and exposure to environmental carcinogens. Sometimes one can minimize risk (e.g., tobacco -> lung cancer), and sometimes not at all.
Interestingly, Chaos was the first thing to exist in the Greek mythological history. It technically makes it a god, though in a very loose sense of the word. The next things to exist were Gaia (the earth), Tartarus (hell, basically), and, depending on the version as Greek mythology has all sorts of continuity issues, Eros (love). Whether those are children of Chaos or not is a matter of interpretation. The only confirmed children of Chaos, again depending on which version, are Erebus (Darkness) and Nyx (Night).
Nyx was apparently a very intimidating figure. Even Zeus was scared of her.
I haven't said "Jamaal Bowman" yet. No one else has said "Jamaal Bowman" before I did, so I feel listless and unhelpful. And yet the pressure of not saying "Jamaal Bowman" is too much to bear.
"Alcoholism is a disease. Like cancer. A person doesn't CHOOSE to be an alcoholic, Ann. They are afflicted by it."
I used the word "declined" so you are fighting a straw man.
I don't see how putting RG tenth on a list going from order to chaos represents a view that he's choosing to be a drunk, especially since I admitted from the top that the list is necessarily wrong.
Would the opinion that alcoholism is a choice be represented by putting him closer to chaos or closer to order? If I thought it was a choice, I'd have put RG closer to the top of the list.
@Buckwheathikes
@Enigma
As someone with diagnosed PTSD and conquered a drinking problem that was about to turn into full blown alcoholism, I can assure you that the decision to start, but most importantly the decision to stop, are both (checks notes) bona-fide decisions. There's a lot of stuff that takes place in between the decision to start and the decision to stop that is beyond the realm of an afflicted person to control, but starting and stopping are still decisions. Like all addictions, alcoholism is a FAFO 'disease'....you start Fucking Around with it you will sooner or later be Finding Out about it.
It is difficult, especially the first 6 months, but it is not impossible. The hardest part is reorganizing your life around activities and people that don't require drinking. It also helps when you get things in your life that are worth fighting hard to stop for, like a wife and kids. I feel for people, like some of my friends, who are still struggling with alcohol, but the decision to stop is real and is not impossible and can be done without drugs, doctors, or traditional 'disease-fighting' methodologies of any kind. Will power can get you out of it the same way it got you into it.
He didn't "look at" the man who was kicking scooters: he got up and followed him several yards and engaged him.
Not the other way around.
This victim was a deluded activist who might have been mentally ill himself, given his idiotic attempts to engage criminals. He could have gotten his girlfriend killed.
Werner Herzog made a movie about this. It's called Grizzly Man. The only difference is that this victim endangered unknown numbers of completely unaware innocents by refusing to report crime, including his much-praised, extralegal (as in lynch mob) decision to let an armed mugger go because he fantasized he talked the criminal down by giving him money, then didn't report the crime.
Ethically, he's no better than a klansman. He took the law into his own hands, judged offenders by his own code, and made himself judge and juror.
We're supposed to oppose this, right?
More interested in the photo that the comments. It is stunning.
Buckwheat seems a bit touchy.
And why the hell do you believe for a moment that the sadistic murderer-rapist's last words were sincere? He lied about being mentally deficient. He fought his sentence for almost four decades with lies. The media lied about him repeatedly. His lawyers lied under oath repeatedly.
How naive are you? Is there some scale we can employ here?
RG in tenth seems fair. He's been in the public eye for decades and never exhibited alcoholism. He's had a change. Decline is correct.
Also, the hair dye. It's an indelible image. I would drink more, too, if that happened to me on national news.
Quien es mas chaos?
Per Wiki...
"The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEMT) is an environmental movement that calls for all people to abstain from reproduction in order to cause the gradual voluntary extinction of humankind. VHEMT supports human extinction primarily because, in the group's view, it would prevent environmental degradation."
Humans bring human order to the world. But in this group's view, that human order provides unacceptable chaos to the rest of the world. So would they be on the order side? Or the chaos side?
wow, nice photo
Quien es mas Chaos?
I will go with the seemingly less likely. Because that's how a professor who loves movies roll... however, the professor's preference to put the correct answer atop the multiple choice, is second to best reason why... the Dalai Lama is mas Chaos. He doesn't have any earthly entity cutting him off, like the other characters in the list... "search for another boy", he commanded. See? that sad story of a clingy mother, a boy getting cut-off TikTok and the monks, who have to find the enthusiasm to do this over again like the last time didn't happen.
Oh yea. Dalai Lama is Captain Chaos.
What, mere beans and nuts?
No! A chaotic vortex.
Theatrical pith.
I've just wanted to say 'theatrical pith' for a few days.
In the GOPe lexicon, "chaos" = accountability
"Chaos" Also = deviation from corrupted "regularized" irregular practices (AKA Business As Usual in DC)
"Chaos" Also = Refusal to continue to accept serial broken promises and betrayals over decades
Alcoholism is a disease. Like cancer.
Norm Macdonald has some thoughts.
“ Tina Trent said...
And why the hell do you believe for a moment that the sadistic murderer-rapist's last words were sincere? ”
Settle down! Why bring up hell? I said he expressed something. I didn’t pretend to know his heart. I’d have put him higher on the list if I’d presumed sincerity. Ironically, you’re the presumer here.
Chaos eh?
This is an obvious example of a First World Problem.
Calling this chaos, ignores centuries of history.
The kerfuffle in DC is not chaos. Nobody hurt, maimed or killed. No families ripped asunder.
The rest? Looks a lot like life. I have a 14 year old granddaughter. Her life is this kind of chaos several times a month. Much like her mother at that age. But being ignored by a girl that was your friend on Monday, is not chaos. Just on person thinks so. Much the same with the list.
It like say the United States has people starving to death. Hungry/ I suppose, but that is as much a personal "choice" as alcoholism. In that, it revolves around choices.
I think a building in china that houses 10,000 people is chock full of chaos, But I doubt the residents agree.
Is Trump on the list? Juggling 3 criminal trials and a couple of civil trials, running a business that generates almost a$billion in revenue, AND Running for the office of President of the United States, looks to me like chaos
Lem the misspeller: "Oh yea. Dalai Lama is Captain Chaos"
And not a great tipper...the Lama...
I wouldn't care to accept the forgiveness of such a creature.
Make Mr. Trump Speaker of the House
"Oh yea. Dalai Lama is Captain Chaos."
So you're disagreeing with my list (which goes from most orderly to most chaotic)?
Drago said...
"Lem the misspeller: "Oh yea. Dalai Lama is Captain Chaos""
That would be Butters.
I think I focused on and ran with "...and that some of the characters that seem to represent order could be said to represent chaos:". The idea of hiding in plain sight. Like how I first learned about Hitchens, that he was fierce critic of Mother Theresa.
I'm not sure this is relevant, but in "Get Smart" Max and 99 worked for "CONTROL" and the bad guys worked for "KAOS."
I always thought Mel Brooks was on my side. Maybe not so much.
And the idea of Dalai Lama as Captain Chaos sounded funny in my head. Funny supersedes ‘order and chaos’ for me.
I sometimes used to wonder why Tina Trent seemed so angry in some of her comments. Now I know, and it's understandable.
A former neighbor of ours, a left-liberal legal services lawyer, used to say that it was a shame so many of her clients were so guilty; another friend is a criminal defense lawyer and packs heat to protect himself from his own clients.
There are monsters among us.
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