Said Xi Jinping, quoted in
"Xi, with ‘old friend’ Putin at his side, claims U.S. is holding back Global South" (WaPo).
[Xi took] aim at American and European efforts to “de-risk” supply chains by reducing dependence on China. “Seeing other people’s development as a threat and economic interdependence as a risk will not allow you to live better and develop faster,” he said....
This is only the second time Putin has left Russia since his March indictment, after a trip last week to the Kyrgyz capital of Bishkek. Putin, stepping onto the stage to deliver remarks after Xi’s, praised China’s achievements and touted a shared desire for global economic progress that respects “civilizational diversity and the right of each country to its own model of development.”
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Historically, sort of. Both China and Japan focused on internal and regional control rather than building empires and expansion. Japan expressly avoided foreigners until 1868 when the US arrived in Tokyo Bay with steam-powered warships. Japan then became expansionistic per rapid industrialization, and this era ended only after wars with Russia, invasions of China (e.g., "The Rape of Nanking"), taking many Korean women as sex slaves, and WW2.
China took control of Tibet in 1950, began serious modernization in the 1980s, and then rattled sabers over Taiwan, built airstrips all over the South China Sea per the 9-dash policy (using armadas of ships for intimidation; took territory from many others), plus they bribed oodles of countries in Asia and Africa to exploit their natural resources (i.e., Belt and Road). Today, Chinese businesses raise African lions in captivity to kill and harvest their bones for traditional Chinese medicine.
https://www.lordashcroftwildlife.com/2019/04/27/the-whole-story-about-lion-farming/
While China uses characteristically Chinese methods, these are de facto ideological confrontations because they are strongly at odds with European/US standards. The Europeans left Africa per global outcries over racism and colonialism, but then China rapidly slipped in to exploit the locals and effect a similar or worse outcome.
All of these are Great Powers conflicts. No purity and no pure evil. Humans are competitive predators. Manage it.
“Seeing other people’s development as a threat and economic interdependence as a risk will not allow you to live better and develop faster
Sorry to break it to all y’all- he’s correct. Trade is good.
Another giant problem made possible by the weakness of Joe Biden.
When WW3 starts, Biden will be the cause.
I've heard it said that when a country deals with China, they get a bridge or a port, when they deal with America, they get a lecture. There's truth to that. But China is going to find out that whatever deal they made, if the country reneges, China can't repossess. They lack the power projection necessary to enforce their deals.
the right of each country to its own model of development
As he meets with the guy who invaded Ukraine. Such a load of crap.
Didn’t these two guys declare their unbreakable partnership just a year or so ago? I’m starting to suspect the whole Ukraine stalemate was started just to sap the US stockpiles and leave us more vulnerable to action on Taiwan. Iran is also supplying arms to Russia. With the weak Biden era ticking down the world’s bad actors see this highly convenient window about to start closing. There’s few coincidences in international politics.
The term "Global South" is a thing lately. Do they mean South America and Africa? Is Antarctica looking to expand economically? Is Australia in or out?
Sorry to break it to all y’all- he’s correct. Trade is good.
You are partially correct when you simplify it to trade. You may want to add a modifier though. If not maybe we could make a deal. For the sake of trade. I've got some beads. You wouldn't happen to own any Manhattan real estate would you?
That was an interesting article about lion farming. I had no idea that it was a thing. Wanting to shoot a caged (or any) lion seems weird and grotesque, but really how is it any worse than any abattoir?
xi is trying stand up, more like colonization in Africa, in Central America, actual ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang province,
"We do not engage in ideological confrontation, geopolitical games, or form confrontational political cliques."
LOL. Who knew Xi does standup.
"Today, Chinese businesses raise African lions in captivity to kill and harvest their bones for traditional Chinese medicine."
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How is this morally or ethically different from raising any animal, say a pig, in captivity to kill and harvest their meat, bones, etc.? Everything but the squeal.
China's stated principle is true. Unfortunately, it's their unstated "vice-principle" (sic) that you've got to watch out for and will whack you in the end.
Who's next on Xi's guest list? Hamas?
The Art Of War is a good read.
The Chicoms aren't Imperialists, and have the following position on Gaza:
“As a friend to both Israel and Palestine, what we hope to see is the two countries living together in peace… The key to achieving that lies in the realization of the two-state solution and establishment of an independent State of Palestine,” Mao further said.
The world is dividing back into two separate power spheres with CHina/Russia on one side, and the USA/NATO on the other. This has occured because the USA has decided that Putin is our enemy, and that China is a potential enemy. Biden (or rather whoever is the real POTUS) has grabbed every oppourtunity to poke a stick at Chinese and insult them. Or grandstand over Taiwan. Its not in the interest of the USA to do this, but who thinks Brandon cares about the USA?
Xi Jinping is Mandarin for Gas Lighter.
Maoists vs Marxists spreading the Green blight and social justice (e.g. systemic diversity) and leaving the African South at progressive disadvantage with dysfunctional development.
Fuck Winnie the Xi and Pootie too! If they didn’t steal intellectual property from the West they’d be back in the 1930s. Where they and their ideology belong.
"Sorry to break it to all y’all- he’s correct. Trade is good."
I used to believe this when I was young, and I think it used to be true. Not anymore, however; not in this world. At least when it comes to vital commodities. Having the lion's share of our medical supplies manufactured in China is not good. Having vital infrastructure manufactured in China is dumb. Having our advanced electronics manufactured almost exclusively in Taiwan is brain-dead stupid. The cheapest price is not the highest priority. Our national security is.
"How is this morally or ethically different from raising any animal, say a pig, in captivity to kill and harvest their meat, bones, etc.?"
Because "pretty".
Look at the endangered specie ads. The majestic Bald Eagle (a pretty buzzard). The awesome Polar Bear. The lone Grey Wolf surveying his frozen kingdom.
You might have missed the less than lovely orange-footed pimpleback mussel in those ads.
Yeah, it really doesn't make sense morally or ethically... but feelings.
rehajm said...
Sorry to break it to all y’all- he’s correct. Trade is good.
Yes and no. Yes, if you are looking at this purely from an economic theory view, then each country should produce whatever it can produce more efficiently, and then trade that to other countries to get things those countries produce more efficiently. This maximizes output. The problem is in real life, this can produce intolerable dependencies. If Country A is completely reliant on Country B for, say, food, then Country B has an incredible leverage over Country A. If Country B cuts off the food supply, either because it is using the leverage to punish Country A or because of something beyond their control, Country A is screwed and people are going to starve to death. Furthermore, military equipment typically requires industrial capacity in a variety of fields. If you are outsourcing any part of national security, this becomes a major vulnerability.
A large country should be able to supply itself in case of an emergency. The United States used to be able to do that, and probably still can if the bureaucrats and the politicians get out of the way. But if a war was to break out tomorrow, we could find ourselves cut off from things we need to fight that war. The fact that we supplied ourselves previously in the most efficient way possible means very little when you cannot properly supply the war machine when war is upon you.
Trade has been used as a weapon throughout history. Do not forget that.
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