Homeless people are particularly vulnerable. But other cases involve freakish missteps — people burned by their seat belts or mailboxes. Swimmers attempting to walk across not-so-cool cool decks. The hospital has seen truckers who drive barefoot, step down onto a parking lot surface and end up badly blistered. On the hottest days, patients have been scalded by the water coming out of their garden hoses. “That first burst of water out of there, it’s practically boiling,” said Kevin Foster, a physician and the director of the burn center. One current patient was celebrating his day off with a cocktail, fell and burned 20 percent of his body, requiring surgery and skin grafting, Foster said. “He was not a drinker. It was just enough. He went down and couldn’t get up,” he said. “All it took was that one little thing.”
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Jeezuz Christ getting burned from lying on the goddam ground?! From opening your mailbox?! From your garden hose?! And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"?
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"Record breaking"
Not really. But it's part of the big setup for Joe's Climate Emergency. Like the covid emergency, it will be a massive reduction in freedom and transfer of power to governments. Democrats and other leftists will have a month-long orgasm.
climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"
Yes, that's exactly what it is. Summer in Phoenix has always been like this. Bless your heart, you've never lived here.
And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"?
Why must the world be constantly divided into "believers" and "deniers"?
Addicts freeze to death in the winter and pass out and burn in the sun in the summer, hot tar or sand burns your feet if you’re not careful. When a hose sits in the sun, the water in it gets hot. All of this is normal, as normal as climate alarmists capitalizing on a sensational story to cry about their favourite issue.
"And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"?"
Same old, same old. When its below average highs that's just weather. Weren't there record snowfalls around the world just this last winter? And yeah, getting burnt from opening your mailbox in the heat of the summer in some parts of the world is just something that can happen there.
Lived in Phoenix for 20 years. Yes, this is just summer.
“not-so-cool cool (sic) decks.”
I’ll never trust WaPo again!
Now do a post about all the people who froze to death or got frostbite last winter in Wisconsin.
"Jeezuz Christ getting burned from lying on the goddam ground?! From opening your mailbox?! From your garden hose?! And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer?"
Be interesting to know if these types of observations/injuries happened before the global warming crisis took hold in the 1970s.
I got blistered burns on my feet from walking barefoot on asphalt back in the 1960s.
I don't doubt that the heat is blistering, but I question how much of this is new. I'm in my 50s, and in my childhood in the hot summers of Washington DC, I was well aware that the inside of a car (vinyl seats, metal seat belt parts) would burn any exposed skin.
The guy who fell down after one cocktail and couldn't get up most likely had other problems. And it seems implausible to me that water at 120 degrees would be scalding. The metal end of the hose was probably uncomfortably hot, though.
We used to fry eggs on the sidewalk in Oklahoma during the summers in the 80s.
Sure--it's never been hot before. My local paper tells me in big letters on the top of the front page that June was the hottest month ever for the world.
Nothing about whether it was hot here in CT. It wasn't. Anecdote is not data.
And maybe if we did something about the cheap fentanyl coming across the border there would be fewer junkies passed out on the pavement.
The battle of Gettysburg started when confederate soldiers entered the town searching for boots because their feet were burning on the "macadam", ie. asphalt roads of Maryland and Pennsylvania in July 1863.
When I lived in the UK in the early 1980's there was a "heatwave" and the temperatures approached 100 degrees that summer. People were literally dropping dead. (generally the elderly and there is NO air conditioning in Europe) My British friends didn't believe me when I told them that the temps in my hometown reach 110 degrees every summer and are over 90 for three months straight.
“ Ann Althouse said...
I got blistered burns on my feet from walking barefoot on asphalt back in the 1960s”
Same here.
In NJ!
And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"?
My Bachelor of Science degree is in mathematics, my advanced degrees in computer science. I have numerous successful mathematical models under my belt — successful in the sense that their predictions actually matched reality. It is difficult to measure my level of contempt for people who continue to believe climate “scientists” in the face of a full half century of predictions that never came to pass. The point of mathematical models is to predict what will happen in response to events. If the predictions fail to occur then the model is broken and must be discarded. Unless you’re a climate “scientist” and you can just push Doomsday out another five to ten years and repeat the scam.
The dangerous word is “believe.” It’s a word that applies to religion and has no place in science, you can believe in reincarnation, or not. You can believe in transubstantiation, or not. You cannot decide not accept the reality of gravity, nor the reality of E = mc squared.
Actually there is one prediction that absolutely has come true. Rational people predicted that the already very wealthy would use climate “science” to fleece ever more money from the poor and middle class. This absolutely happened, and is getting worse.
I grew up in Phoenix in the 80s and all of these are the normal banal hazards of the region. We all got the mail barefoot in the summer, by moving quick across the concrete and quicker across the asphalt. No moron 6-year-old didn't know to wait until the hot water was out of the hose before making contact. Of course you can burn yourself on the seat belt latch or the steering wheel. So you show a little due caution, and get a sharp reminder if you let your guard down. This is absolutely 100% normal summer in Phoenix.
"I got blistered burns on my feet from walking barefoot on asphalt back in the 1960s."
Same here from the sand at the Indiana Dunes. On a sunny day you have to wear shoes.
The fentanyl users who collapsed would probably have needed treatment even in a cool environment.
"Like the covid emergency, it will be a massive reduction in freedom and transfer of power to governments."
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency? What was required of you, other than that you wear a mask when going out among other people? Was that minor imposition really a "massive reduction in freedom?" Such mask requirements have been implemented in previous pandemics. That trivial requirement was intended to--and did--retard the spread of COVID and mitigate fatalities and serious long-term health problems among those who became infected. Even so, millions died and many others remain stricken with lingering health consequences. Was the minor inconvenience truly a loss of your freedom, particularly a "massive reduction?"
I lived in Scottsdale for several years. Once I left a six pack of plastic seltzer bottles in my car. By the end of the afternoon, the water was all gone and the plastic was just a pile of confetti. I would drape a newspaper over the steering wheel so I could touch it after it was parked for a while. Opening the car door, you would learn to jump back so as not to be caught in the blast of the escaping heat.
So yeah, in Phoenix, that's just summer.
For the month of June, daily high temps in Phoenix stayed very close to the 30-year average, with two dips below average, June 1 and 2 (continuing from the last 12 days or so in May; May barely had any days above average) and 7-14. July admittedly has been above the 30-year average--as high as 47 as compared to the average of 44. The forecast is for a few more high days, then back to the 30-year average starting about July 22.
Long term trends of catastrophic heat, to say nothing of downstream effects like storms, have not panned out, so they have to jump on heat waves in places that are already hot. Isn't the joke about frying an egg on a sidewalk among the oldest Hollywood jokes?
Sorry, temps in Celsius.
Things heat up until the heat radiation out equals the absorbed radiation in. Dark objects have to get really hot because they absorb everything that comes in.
climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"
Global warming believers will ascribe any unpleasant happenstance to "climate change". If there's a drought blame "climate change". Floods? Same thing. Too hot? Climate change again. Earthquakes, volcanos, meanderings of rivers, even the cold winters brought about by the polar vortex are all caused by "climate change".
There was a time when people understood that too much or too lttle rain was caused by witchcraft. Thank goodness we've progressed.
Be interesting to know if these types of observations/injuries happened before the global warming crisis took hold in the 1970s.
One thing to note is that the population of Phoenix went from 100k in 1950, to 500k in 1960, and then grew by 20-30% each decade until 2000. That kind of population growth creates a lot more edge cases, and also forces development that may exacerbate problems. For example, large sprawling construction of concrete and glass and steel can reflect more energy back into the environment, as well as obstruct the air currents which normally would be created. Large populations mean that more people are unable to escape to cooler climates, as was often a means of beating the heat, historically. Finally, the rise of AC and fast fashion means fashions are less sensitive to dealing with the heat. If you look at old photographs, you'll often see people wearing full length shirts, pants, dresses, along with hats. This is because it's often not the hot air that kills you, but direct sun exposure. A lightweight, long-sleeved shirt does more to keep you safe than a t-shirt.
Seems more like there is a lack of common sense and the awareness and recollection of what happens to other things when a normal heat wave hits. Hot walking surfaces in summer is why flip flops became so popular at the seashore during the 1960's and, ha, now forevermore.
"Record breaking"
“Not really. But it's part of the big setup for Joe's Climate Emergency. Like the covid emergency, it will be a massive reduction in freedom and transfer of power to governments. Democrats and other leftists will have a month-long orgasm.”
It’s just now really getting hot there. Expect that it’s similar to here in Las Vegas. Last summer, when we were here so long, Vegas seemed to run a degree or two hotter than Phoenix. Have to carry our small dog across the pavement to the doggy restroom sometimes at the hotel. Not that often though, because we jog. She needs water when we get back upstairs. Interestingly, we are one of the few species well adapted to exercise in that sort of heat, with our sweat glands.
“Addicts freeze to death in the winter and pass out and burn in the sun in the summer, hot tar or sand burns your feet if you’re not careful. When a hose sits in the sun, the water in it gets hot. All of this is normal, as normal as climate alarmists capitalizing on a sensational story to cry about their favourite issue”
Friend who spent most of his career in the big county ER in Minneapolis pioneered a technique, many decades ago, of reviving people whose body temps had dropped into what had previously thought to be the fatal zone. It was mostly for drunks who passed out in snowbanks and the like. If I remember correctly, they used a heart-lung machine, and warmed up the blood when it was out of the body. Since blood goes everywhere in the body, the result is to warm a body inside out, instead of the more traditional outside in. What the article isn’t saying (intentionally?) is that cold has always killed more humans than heat has - quite possibly because our bodies were evolved for warm climates, where heat elimination is prioritized over heat retention.
@Cook. Were you under a rock during Covid? How about the government closing businesses and churches? You are not credible.
Oh. My. God. Lighten up, Francis.
Everything described is normal summer activity/hazard in the desert and has been for my entire life. I'm especially snorting about the cool deck burn. Duh. That stuff is HOT. Do not touch until you're wet.
I've put in my Will, that my cause of death be listed as due to climate change. A company has pledged to give 100 carbon credits to my estate in exchange. Hopefully this should be enough for Charon's tax unless the rising energy prices make it unaffordable.
I lived in Mesa as a child in the mid-70s, just outside Phoenix (now it's the same city, basically), and it was regularly 120 in the summer. My mom would shut us out of the house for hours so she could get housework done, and we'd play in the carport. We didn't go barefoot on the sidewalk until the sun started to go down, because IT WOULD BURN YOU.
I wonder how many of these injuries involve people who just got there and don't yet know how to live there. When I first lived on my own in a cold climate, I had some near misses in the winter, not being accustomed to having extra warm things in my car in case of emergency or (in a non-emergency case) not realizing that I had to get up earlier and allow time to let the defrost run for a while in order to get through the windshield ice before getting on the road.
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?
I lost the freedom to be anywhere in public without a mask (that studies now show did not stop or reduce transmission); the freedom to actually enter the office building where I work; the freedom to fly, go to an indoors public event (concert, sporting event, etc.) without first injecting myself (TWICE!) with an experimental mRNA product that did not stop transmission; the freedom to go to a restaurant for a meal when they were forcibly closed; the freedom to travel to a different country without having to quarantine myself pending the results of a diagnostic test that I was forced to take; the freedom to make physical contact with my father as he lay dying of Alzheimer's...
Ass.
“ In NJ!”
Ha ha. Me too. NJ. Wayne, NJ. Northern New Jersey.
truckers who drive barefoot?
I remember hot water from the hose. Everyone knew to let it run a bit. I loved being barefoot so I’d go to our local pool in the morning without flip flops or anything. Coming home in the afternoon, I’d have to quickly run from lawn to lawn because the street was so hot. And I’d do it again the next day. We all remember poking our toes in the melting road tar. The current heat wave may be unusual, but these anecdotes don’t really help make the case….
So... it's summer, and unconscious or immobile people in the desert are in danger, just like they'd be, in a Minnesota winter.
I'm not a climate denier, I'm a believer: There is nothing new, under the sun - except the present sunlight radiation, that was brought into existence about 8 minutes ago. When the sun burns hotter (and it does), the Earth gets warmer, and vice versa. All this nonsense about 0.04% of the atmosphere exerting supreme control over our climate is pure, socially-engineered nonsense. We are living in the midst of a comfortably-moderate grace period in the Earth's billions-of-years timeline of much more extreme climate conditions, both hotter and colder. Be grateful.
It's not just that that is a dumb comment. It's that it is the highest-rated comment.
Well, you keep reading this junk. It sure gets old.
This is so dumb. This happens every summer in AZ. I used to freeze water in an empty two liter bottle so I could put it in our child's car seat so the buckles wouldn't burn her when we got back in the car after shopping. This was a common practice with the moms I knew.
And everyone knew about the hoses. And to leave your flipflops by the pool deck.
This is so dumb. This happens every summer in AZ. I used to freeze water in an empty two liter bottle so I could put it in our child's car seat so the buckles wouldn't burn her when we got back in the car after shopping. This was a common practice with the moms I knew.
And everyone knew about the hoses. And to leave your flipflops by the pool deck.
“Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency? What was required of you, other than that you wear a mask when going out among other people? Was that minor imposition really a "massive reduction in freedom?" Such mask requirements have been implemented in previous pandemics. That trivial requirement was intended to--and did--retard the spread of COVID and mitigate fatalities and serious long-term health problems among those who became infected. Even so, millions died and many others remain stricken with lingering health consequences. Was the minor inconvenience truly a loss of your freedom, particularly a "massive reduction?"”
Freedoms lost:
- kids going to school. Marginal students, esp with behavioral issues, often disappeared from the educational system when instruction purportedly went online. Very many kids lost up to two years of schooling and education during a very critical time in their lives. Extracurricular activities, including music, drama, and sports were shut down.
- Restaurants and clubs were shut down. Dating moved online, which is totally inadequate, esp since we are a gregarious species. Many fewer drunken hookups, and less sex - which most of us don’t miss - anymore, but I know I loved it when I was in college.
- Exercise was way down, with authorities going to extreme measures to keep people from working out. Surfing was banned in places in CA, and in CO, the Dem governor ordered CDOT to plow in the pull offs on Loveland Pass to prevent backcountry skiing. As a consequence, obesity has soared, with the onset of Type II Diabetes continuing to drop.
- Your masking, esp of small kids had a significant impact on their development. There was, of course, no rational reason to demand that small kids be masked, since COVID-19 posed no risk to them. It was nonsensical in the first place, since the “ma sky’s” used were close to worthless outside healthcare facilities and the like. They were justified based on models (again) based on the faulty assumption of droplet spread. When it spread through the air, it was mostly through viral aerosols (which aren’t even stopped by N95 masks), and it turns out that it was primarily spread by touch. The only groups who really benefitted from masks were AntiFA and BLM - which started rioting in them, to foil facial recognition, several months before masking mandates went into effect. Hmm…
I am sure that others here could add to my list. But for what? The virus never really threatened the lives ofst people, and they caught the virueventually anyway. It was always the aged and those with significant comorbidi were at much risk.
so! it's Not SO MUCH "excessive heat", and excessive drug use by homeless LOSER Drug addicts?
i Wonder, if you could cook an egg on the pavement? You Know? like you ALWAYS could in summer?
I guess The Thing To Remember (i have to Keep repeating this, Every Day, for some reason)
is that HISTORY Started at one minute after midnight this morning.
TODAY, *IS* the hottest day in history
also, the dryest
most windy
coldest
and wettest
Once you REMEMBER, that History started THIS morning, it ALL makes sense..
I suppose i'll have to say this tomorrow too
This summer is very hot, but only a degree or so hotter than other summers. Obviously these kind of burn issues happen even when it's a degree cooler. Only no one wrote an article about it.
Blogger Big Mike said... "You cannot decide not accept the reality of gravity, nor the reality of E = mc squared."
Reminds me of the old joke: Gravity, more than a good idea, it's the LAW!
And yes, CAGW is a religion. They've decided God doesn't exist so their "science" has replaced him.
In the Caribbean and the Tropics, even the sand on the beach can burn your feet during the hottest part of the day.
Climate change or not- pay f/king attention, people.
Is there a decline in cause&effect cognition?
IIR Phoenix and Las Vegas are 115 F in mid June to mid August. but John Kerry will outlaw their air Conditioning soon as the polar vortex descends on the eastern US.
It’s the desert. It’s summer. If you choose to live in the desert in the summer, you may notice it gets hot. Really fucking hot. Some years more than others, some years less, but always hot. Same for those of us in the tropics (south Florida), though it’s less hot and more humid.
It’s the deal we made for beautiful winters. The trick is to not use fentanyl and instead, do something productive indoors. You know- like a job.
It's only in the 70s here, but I've seen plenty of sunburned passed out people in the park. They aren't on a hot sidewalk, but the sun is getting them nonetheless. Just one more affliction for the poor homeless drug addicts.
I remember going to the beach at Lake Michigan and the sand burning my feet as I ran to the water. The white sand beaches in Sarasota that stay cool were a revelation.
"Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency,"
Well, for a start, you could ask that to the people who were not allowed to visit their dying relatives. Maybe a slap in the face will jog your memory.
Why anyone would read the WaPoo about the climate in AZ is a mystery to me. Actually, that's a fib. I do know about these idiots that justify their obsession with "Climate Change" by citing numbers that everybody in the Southwest knows about. Coastal CA is cooled by the ocean current that sweeps south from Alaska at 3 knots all year. If you get 10 miles inland in CA the climate is the same as AZ.
"What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency? What was required of you, other than that you wear a mask when going out among other people?"
When the world shut down, I was deprived of my livelihood. I was offstage for eight months. In the year after Sisolak shuttered Vegas, I was only able to work two times, doing eight shows.
GTFOH with your bullshit.
Are the dogs sticking to the sidewalk?
Blogger Robert Cook said...
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?
The freedom to operate my business. The ability to collect rents. One restaurant closed permanently costing 17 jobs. Just an annoyance I guess. For me anyway, not so much for the hourly workers. My children also lost 2 years of in person education. Remote school was a bad joke. They will not get the benefit of those years back.
The mask mandate accomplished nothing. It was reasonable to think that Covid was a real threat at first, but it quickly became apparent that it was not.
One of the earliest references to frying an egg on the sidewalk contained in the Library of Congress dates back to an 1899 issue of the Atlanta Constitution.
"And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"?"
The history deniers are a larger and more proximal threat.
Phoenix is a city built in the desert.....what did you think was going to happen?
"My British friends didn't believe me when I told them that the temps in my hometown reach 110 degrees every summer and are over 90 for three months straight."
They probably forgot you were talking in Fahrenheit.
My parents, having grown up in central Illinois, used to talk about the summer of 1935 even sixty years later.
This was in the 1980s . . . .
Co-worker returns from taking a class in Phoenix and told the story of needing a haircut.
He'd seen a barber shop a couple blocks from the classroom and decides to walk there during the lunch break.
By the time he gets to the shop he's hot stepping on the sidewalk. Enters the shop and, as "Don" told the story, the barber says, "You're not from around here, are you?"
After work, I rode my mountain bike up to top of South Mountain on June 26 1990; coming down (about 25mph) my eyeballs felt like they were burning. Got into car and bottom and they announced it was 122. That was 33 years ago. The first full year I lived in Phoenix -1988 -- it hit 100 degress on March 28 and I thought "holy shit." That was 35 years ago.
Global warming - lol. THIS IS PHOENIX!
Yes, it is summer in arizona.
People are moving to hotter places from more temperate but politically crazy climates. Now they are learning lessons those of us who grew up here know.
This is nothing new. It is surprising that people would pretend to be so ignorant to push an agenda. People who like to pretend they are well informed about the world don’t know the first thing about summers in the south or south west.
What a load of crap! The heat came in late this year and I've seen it a lot worse in the past. I noticed that quite a few of the accompanying photos were of people hiking and one individual who'd been on a trail run. If those people get into difficulty due to the heat they have no one to blame but themselves. Experienced Arizonans know that unlike mad dogs and Englishmen you stay out of the midday sun. This is nothing but a horror story for the WaPo's readers in DC and NYC so they can tell each other; "Gosh, we're smart to live here and not in a hellhole like that!" while they dodge poop on the sidewalk and muggers.
Coastal CA is cooled by the ocean current that sweeps south from Alaska at 3 knots all year. If you get 10 miles inland in CA the climate is the same as AZ.
It snowed on my head in Monterey in August. I brought clothes for 55 degrees...oops!
I grew up in the southeast in the 1960s, and went barefoot essentially all summer every year. Even as a wee child I knew that one could burn one's feet walking on hot surfaces in the summer. A sprint to the car across a hot asphalt parking lot was a great learning experience, mostly about heat transfer from dark, sun-soaked surfaces to a human sole.
So top comment over there, please let me warn you that history did not begin today. We just knew not to drug ourselves into laying down on hot concrete in the 1960s, bercause we would get hurt. Well, most of us knew that, in that decade.
All of the heat examples here are from solar radiation, not conduction from the air, which even if slightly warmer, is still far cooler than the object heated by sunlight. Same with the oceans, the amount of heat that can migrate across the surface thermal skin is negligible, like trying to heat a block of steel with a warm feather.
@Virgil, I’ve flown into and out of Sky Harbor twice, and got a kick out of souvenir T-shirts in the concourse shops proclaiming “but it’s a DRY heat.” I didn’t buy one, but I did think it was funny to be packing short-sleeved shirts to wear in February. Do they still close Sky Harbor due to heat? IIRC that happened back in the 1990s.
When I was a boy in Miami 60-odd years ago, this could be a problem in the hottest of summer days -- anything metal could be dangerous in the right conditions, as would laying in the sun on a sidewalk, or worse, pavement. Nothing new about it. I've gotten into hot cars in North Florida in July and almost passed out.
2020 was much worse. It was hot by mid-April and didn't go below 90 -- the overnight low temp -- for like three months. And over 110 for that stretch, too. And very little in the way of monsoons. Spring was much cooler this year and it took quite a while to get over 100 regularly. This is just normal.
Journalists seem to be very stupid people. Almost as stupid as the people who believe what they write.
I trail run and ride my bike in the afternoon here, and it's fine; I know my limits and don't do it for very long. Massive sweating is a good excuse to swill beer. . . . .
Blogger Lloyd W. Robertson said...
"For the month of June, daily high temps in Phoenix stayed very close to the 30-year average, with two dips below average, June 1 and 2 (continuing from the last 12 days or so in May; May barely had any days above average) and 7-14. July admittedly has been above the 30-year average--as high as 47 as compared to the average of 44. The forecast is for a few more high days, then back to the 30-year average starting about July 22."
Actual data. Thank you.
Let me add that half of all temperatures are going to be above average. It's baked into the definition of 'average'.
"The mask mandate accomplished nothing. It was reasonable to think that Covid was a real threat at first, but it quickly became apparent that it was not."
Actually, it was.
Big Mike, they closed Sky Harbor on the day I was riding my bike down South Mountain (at least for takeoffs) because the runway charts didn't go up to 122. As air gets hotter there is less lift and for every one degree increase you need slightly more runway.
I find it amusing how they rush to call "climate change" when the sun is hot. Because they also rush to call you an idiot if you bring up solar radiation variance when discussing climate change.
But it's okay, just put up some solar panels to shade the asphalt.
I had a long-hair black cat. She would dash between shade when traversing the yard on hot sunny days. People people, be as smart as a cat.
"The first full year I lived in Phoenix -1988 -- it hit 100 degress on March 28 and I thought "holy shit." That was 35 years ago."
That heat wave was my fault. I hate hot weather, but wanted to visit friends in Tucson. I figured March would be safe. Running joke during my visit there; "Thanks for bringing the heat with you!"
1. Phoenix hospitals annually treat people for back-of-leg burns. From car seats.
2. The hottest temperature ever in Phoenix was 122 degrees. 33 years ago.
3. The hottest recorded temperature in U.S. - Death Valley, 134°F. In 1913.
Blogger tim in vermont said..."All of the heat examples here are from solar radiation, not conduction from the air,"
That's an excellent point. All of these stories couldn't be the result of global warming, even if it existed.
"Why anyone would read the WaPoo about the climate in AZ is a mystery to me."
You'd think maybe a "reporter" would pick up the phone and talk to some people in Phoenix before making a horse's ass of himself. But no. What a maroon.
Blogger tim in vermont said..."All of the heat examples here are from solar radiation, not conduction from the air,"
That's an excellent point. All of these stories couldn't be due to global warming, even if it existed.
The weather in northern Wisconsin this summer has been remarkably cool. Hope it lasts.
Blogger Anthony said...
2020 was much worse. It was hot by mid-April and didn't go below 90 -- the overnight low temp -- for like three months.
Anthony, if you are referring to Tucson, we had 125 daily for two weeks in July. Compared to Chicago in January, it was nothing. This year I had my sister, now that she is widowed, come to Tucson for February. Just to get her out of that crap weather.
Blogger Anthony said...
2020 was much worse. It was hot by mid-April and didn't go below 90 -- the overnight low temp -- for like three months.
Anthony, if you are referring to Tucson, we had 125 daily for two weeks in July 2020. Compared to Chicago in January, it was nothing. This year I had my sister, now that she is widowed, come to Tucson for February. Just to get her out of that crap weather.
“@Virgil, I’ve flown into and out of Sky Harbor twice, and got a kick out of souvenir T-shirts in the concourse shops proclaiming “but it’s a DRY heat.” I didn’t buy one, but I did think it was funny to be packing short-sleeved shirts to wear in February. Do they still close Sky Harbor due to heat? IIRC that happened back in the 1990s.”
I joke that the reason that I moved from Austin to PHX in the late 1990s was to get cooler in the summer. And for me, it was true. There was also a promotion involved - and I lost the bump in pay to state income taxes. Oh, and I was comparing Carefree (AZ) a half an hour north of Scottsdale, and maybe 1k’ higher to Austin. My time in Austin, and 5 years in the late 1970s in the DC area, were the only times I have ever lived with humidity. Still, you get out of the Sun in PHX, and it feels 20 degrees cooler.
I was a teenager in the 1960s living in a California beach town. Every summer brought Zonies to our town and the beaches. Great for guys like me because a lot of those Zonies were good looking and already tan. Zonies? They are people from Arizona who fled summer heat at home for cooler Pacific breezes, a 70 degree ocean, and a sandy boardwalk to show young bikini'ed bodies.
Once the water in the hose gets to 212 degF the temperature will no longer increase until all the water boils and evaporates, so this problem will not get worse with further global warming. The steam can get hotter though. I suggest putting a pressure relief valve on your hose.
At several solar power stations, the sun heats water above 200 degF every day of the year, so what is the author complaining about.
WARNING! Magnifying glass burns ants, global warming identified as the cause.
Many commenters here have taken issue with the WaPo comment "climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer." Justly so. Take a look at the "Historical Extreme Temperatures in Phoenix" as published by the National Weather Service. https://www.weather.gov/psr/ExtremeTemps
It's not as if extreme temperatures during the summer months in Phoenix (or anywhere, for that matter) are a new phenomenon. The mere suggestion otherwise speaks volumes about the disingenuousness of the climate change crowd and the paucity of both their evidence and their crusade.
It's July. It's always in the mid to upper 90s and muggy at this time of the year. However, it is no hotter in the southeast this July than it has been in past summers.
Those in their twenties and thirties may not remember prior years in which we had "record-breaking" temperatures in July or August, but we have had them. Just as we have had summers in which the temperatures were way below average. That's how we get averages. Unfortunately, the climate change cultists insist that every little variation in the weather is due to climate change and thus "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE" unless we stop using gas and oil.
I say they go first. They can live in a cave without any modern conveniences for a year (including their expensive iphone), and then return and tell us how it is done. They can take nothing made with modern conveniences with them when they go.
Lots of bile in those comments. Wapo readers are a miserable lot.
What freedoms did you lose under Covid? Wow, it would take a literal fascist not to notice those losses!
My father couldn't go to his oncologist - since most of the patients were elderly people. His spindle cell sarcoma came roaring back. (Perhaps due to his MRNA injections?)
By the time he was ALLOWED to go see his doctor, the tumor was inoperable.
He had his leg amputated and almost died during the surgery.
I had to go over to his house THIS MORNING because he fell during the transfer from the car into his wheelchair.
No loss of freedom for him! \sarc tag off
Rights curtailed by the response to COVID:
* Freedom of speech and the press: while I don't recall anyone's being arrested for "spreading misinformation" (that, as we know, has turned out to be information) about COVID (plenty of talk that they ought to be, though), certainly people's expectations that they'd be able to be heard on platforms that had successfully lobbied to be treated as common carriers were dashed. These "common carriers" suppressed voices questioning the COVID response and amplified the voices hyping it.
* Freedom of religion: it's a religious requirement in the Catholic Church, for instance, that you receive the Eucharist every week, with rare exceptions. COVID never rose to the level of triggering those exceptions society-wide, yet Catholics all around the country were forced by government to do something that they believed put their souls in jeopardy.
* Freedom from unlawful searches: with every other vaccine, there is an exemption process. With COVID, for a good while there was not. (There still isn't; they've just acknowledged that, like the flu vaccine, it doesn't do much, so they can't require it for school or employment like smallpox or measles, the way they started out.) You had to produce your papers, documentation of your private medical records, in order to enter some places, to work in some places, to fly, to travel by other means. In other situations, you had to make an affirmative declaration, with shades of "lie about this and you're breaking some law or other," that you had indeed received the vaccine. Natural immunity from recent COVID infection was not sufficient - were have friends whose ability to travel for pleasure AND WORK was curtailed by exactly this.
* Freedom of association: do we really have to explain this one?
* Many have already commented on their loss of freedom to run a business or make a living.
* Public schooling: how many school districts extended their no-in-person-instruction period at the request of the teachers? How many of those requests were the result of how much easier it is to cope with unruly students on Zoom than in person? Will we ever know? Because KIDS WERE NOT AT RISK. And teachers who were, because of age and comorbidities, had other options besides continuing to teach in person - that's what their unions are for.
And then you put up a link to COVID infection numbers worldwide. Data, devoid of cost/benefit analysis. It was clear from quite early on that COVID didn't kill young, healthy people; it killed old and/or unhealthy ones. Yet workers with in-person jobs were prevented from working. Children were prevented from being educated (think about the household where there's one computer and three kids, Cook; even in my household, where every kid has long had access to a separate computer, I guarantee my 2020 and 2022 graduates didn't get the high school educations their older brother got). Supply chains failed and continue to suffer worldwide. The global economy teetered and continues to be shaky.
And COVID never reached the potential risk level that could have justified ANY of this. There was never a suggestion, even at the beginning when we knew almost nothing, that COVID was going to be the Black Death - something like that might actually justify the draconian measures taken. It's just that your side loves them some precautionary principle, hence Zero Risk is the goal - and not just for COVID - despite its being unachievable.
"Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?" (emphasis added)
The pursuit of happiness? The freedom to visit and hug my grandmother in the nursing home? The Freedom to go to my favorite restaurants because Governor Walz closed them utilizing the threat of state-sanctioned violence to any owner that did? Or the freedom to dine out without a vaccination passport?
Look, I get that it's really important for some to rewrite history in order to fit their narrative, but how stupid does one have to be to start doing it so soon? When everyone can still remember what just happened.
"That trivial requirement was intended to--and did--retard the spread of COVID and mitigate fatalities and serious long-term health problems among those who became infected."
Misinformation. It has been clearly shown that masks provided no mitigation to the spread or reduction in the intensity of infection.
I find it so cute that Chuckie likes to use government sources as his evidences. It's like he's clueless or something.
In August 2012, moron ANTIFA chained themselves to the blacktop outside the Apollo Beach Power plant (FL), purportedly to protest global warming, as the Republican Convention was being held in nearby Tampa.
They used handcuffs, superglue, and PVC drain pipe (very environmental of them) to prevent easy removal.
Then they started screaming in pain as the asphalt burned their backs.
The firemen and EMT's had to build tents around them and hose them down continually as they sawed and hacked them apart.
It is neither a good idea to take fentanyl outside nor to chain yourself to black asphalt in 95+ degree August temperatures in Florida.
These idiots made the nearby Manatees look like rocket scientists.
When it get very cold in Florida, Manatees and Sharks gather outside the same power plant to enjoy the warm water runoff.
Boy, do the global warming people hate that symbiotic relationship.
All the above is evidence that those who choose to live in Arizona are crazy.
Michael K said...
Anthony, if you are referring to Tucson, we had 125 daily for two weeks in July 2020.
No, I'm up here in Mesa. I just looked it up, we had 53 days of 110+ in 2020.
Don't sunburns come from exposure to the sun? Anyone here been snow skiing and got a sunburn?
"Blogger Robert Cook said...
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?"
Economic freedom.
"JULY 08, 2021
In June 2021, 6.2 million people did not work at all or worked fewer hours because their employer closed or lost business due to the coronavirus pandemic. This is down from 7.9 million in May 2021 and from 49.8 million in May 2020."
Source: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/6-2-million-unable-to-work-because-employer-closed-or-lost-business-due-to-the-pandemic-june-2021.htm
What was required of you, other than that you wear a mask when going out among other people?
Though this isn't the subject matter of the post, in case you didn't notice ... thousands of people lost their jobs because they refused to take the worthless jab.
But it seems you're OK with that. So don't come bitching to me when it's your ox that gets gored next time.
"Robert Cook said...
All the above is evidence that those who choose to live in Arizona are crazy."
The reason some of us choose to live there is that those very hot days are only for a month or two. We remember them fondly at Christmas on the patio or pool when it's 70 degrees outside.
Los Angeles set a record for the longest streak of below 80 degrees for this time of year.
Up in the SoCal mountains this past week was the first week it felt anything close to summer, been below 70 and often under 60.
And we're to believe this is "just summer?" What has been blocking the usual warmth?!
Blogger Robert Cook said...
All the above is evidence that those who choose to live in Arizona are crazy.
Says the resident of New York City.
you can tell who still wears masks by the comments
Lived in Phoenix/ Vegas for most of my life. This is just summer. If we didn't have these hot summers, the population of Phoenix would be ten time higher than it is now.
Yeah, LV and arizona get hot for about 4 months. Shocking, no? When Younger, I loved to go to LV in August. Super hot, but I would go walk between the casinos, enjoy the lower prices and fewer people and laugh at the "heat wimps"
Now, I say to hell with it. When the sun goes down, and its 7 PM I want a temperature below 8o. What wears me down with super-hot days, isn't that it gets over 100. Its that its still hot all through the night and in the AM.
It sucks waking up at 6 Am and its 84 degrees!
Isn't it perplexing to see Althouse ban people for viciousness or just being a pain in the ass, while letting really stupid trolls like Robert Cook show up here to foul the nest.
Asphalt parking lots and roads are always hot in summer, even in Michigan. And yes, the first water out of the hose is hot, even as a little kid I got that. And that first sprint across the beach to the lake?
Vinyl car seats in summer were especially fun, when you sat down in a wet swimsuit you could almost hear the sizzle.
I have a pair of ratty deck shoes made of canvas. They have holes in them near the big toe area. When I took my Chinese gf to the beach last year, she asked me why I owned such a pair of shoes. I explained that I wore them for the walk across the effing hot sand to the water's edge. I could then leave them near a rock without fear of someone stealing them. Sometimes an old, battered thing can be useful. Like me.
MarcusB. THEOLDMAN
"Isn't it perplexing to see Althouse ban people for viciousness or just being a pain in the ass, while letting really stupid trolls like Robert Cook show up here to foul the nest."
Robert Cooke is not a troll. He can be particularly obtuse when defending his beloved government. I notice he has had no comment to the several stories of personal loss told in response to his challenge "What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?"
That top comment was as dumb as any comment you will ever see, and what makes it worse is that it is the top comment which means the up-voters of that comment are just as fucking dumb as the writer of the comment.
"Los Angeles set a record for the longest streak of below 80 degrees for this time of year."
Boise went a record streak of 157 days below 60 degrees, breaking the old record from 1899.
"while letting really stupid trolls like Robert Cook show up here to foul the nest."
Click directly to the right of "Robert Cook said..." on your screen and the idiocy disappears.
Sure, it's real hot, but at night it cools down to comfortable low or mid-nineties.
Around about 1984 I was young, dumb, and .. well you know the rest, and a newly graduated programmer working a mid-size town in Iowa. I was renting a condo, said complex was just two buildings totaling about 20 fairly nice 2-bedroom apartments on either side of an enclosed area with a swimming pool. Around about the Fourth of July all of the residents spent the greater part of the day hanging around poolside, including red-haired blue-eyed whiter than Wonder Bread me. By the end of the day I looked more like Wonder Bread smeared with a heavy layer of ketchup. I hadn't worn anything but shorts and a smile all day, and everything from my scalp to the tops of my feet was burned and blistered. I could hardly wear shoes long enough to get to walk into work the next Monday.
In Vegas for weekend. Now I know where "hot as hell comes from". But at least my 6th Pfizer shot this week makes me safer.
Cook asks:
"What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency? "
Are you kidding?
We all lost the ability to move around freely. The economy collapsed. We couldn't go to restaurants - and many of them closed. and on and on.
Forced jabs - with unproven vaccines.
Cook is in standard leftist denial that his precious leftist democratxics fucked us over with their economy killing power grab chi com virus.
Arizona is beautiful - but unbearably hot in the summer.
This is not new.
I was lucky to hike from Utah to AZ to the "wave" formation. Had to play the BLM pass lottery for 2 years to get a one day pass. It was glorious. Hired a guide.
I love old town Scottsdale. I love Sedona.
There are too many people in AZ - because it is a great place to live. It's not water shortage - it's too many people using the water - causing the shortages. too many freaking people.
Hot pavement! Thant's never happened before!
Hot water coming out of a hose sitting in the sun! My GOD! Climate denialists are insane if they think this ever happened before!
"Jeezuz Christ getting burned from lying on the goddam ground?! From opening your mailbox?! From your garden hose?! And climate change deniers expect us to believe this is "just summer"? "
What? Expect climate change zealots to abandon their religion? Nobody expects that.
Robert Cook said...
"Like the covid emergency, it will be a massive reduction in freedom and transfer of power to governments."
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?
See, even Cook has a sense of humor.
It's been so cold here in the holler that we're still importing our okra, though this week should change things.
I've been reading Prof. Althouse's blog for something more than 18 years, and Robert Cook's "what freedoms did you lose during covid?" rhetorical question is the single stupidest comment I have ever read. Impressive.
"and Robert Cook's "what freedoms did you lose during covid?" rhetorical question is the single stupidest comment I have ever read."
So far. Give him time.
Cookie trusts the WHO??? Unsurprising...
We should all point and laugh, except the globalist totalitarians are no laughing matter.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
Really? What freedom did you lose during the COVID emergency?
This demonstrates how completely self centered and narcissistic those on the left are.
One ‘freedom’ lost is the ability to associate, including those in support groups. Our admin assistant was part of one such group considered ‘non essential’. She committed suicide.
Living and growing up in the UK (of all places) we put a towel over the steering wheel and seats so we didn’t burn ourselves. Well, the seats for me as a kid. You only burn yourself once before you learn what to do. Well, that was back then when we didn’t blame everything that happens to us on someone else and demand something should be done.
Indeed, that is (was) a long running cultural joke when a bad thing happens: “someone should do something about that!”. Maybe it’s not a joke, anymore.
“Fentanyl users”? That seems a rather odd combination to combine with “global warming”.
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