April 4, 2023

Things conflated by Majorie Taylor Greene.

Now, here's an appropriate use of the word "conflate."

The “pedophile” slur, a companion of the term “groomer,” is regularly applied by Republicans and right-wing media figures to Democrats and others who stand up for transgender rights, including gender-affirming treatment for adolescents. Greene cheerfully flaunted this use of the term on “60 Minutes,” which left [Lesley] Stahl utterly flummoxed: 
Greene: Democrats support, even Joe Biden, the president himself, supports children being sexualized and having transgender surgeries. Sexualizing children is what pedophiles do to children. 
Stahl: Wow. Okay. But my question really is, can’t you fight for what you believe in without all that name-calling and without the personal attacks? 
Greene: Well, I would ask the same question to the other side … 
Not only did Greene casually conflate “sexualizing children” with transgender care, but she also is being despicably dishonest by reducing gender-affirming care to “surgeries.” Yet this conflation of support for trans youth with pedophilia slipped by, unrebutted, to a national audience. No wonder Greene told Semafor she was pleased with how the interview went.

Lesley Stahl initiated the topic and seemed to have thought that Greene would be flummoxed.* Was Stahl utterly unprepared for Greene to have an answer to the question why she'd used that word? Did CBS folk not game it out? It seems obvious to me that one predictable move was what Greene did: define "pedophile" broadly so that it's not limited to persons who have or desire to have sex with children.

It's like the way feminists refer to a "rape culture." It's not just about the malefactors who commit the specific crime, but about a larger system of creating risks and desires and vulnerability. Greene concisely stated the bold concept that sexualizing children is pedophilia.

Stahl should have been prepared for this. Perhaps she doesn't have what it takes to ask follow up questions. She reacted like a know-nothing: "Wow. Okay." And then she changed the subject to the general question whether name-calling — saying things like "pedophile" — is bad form! That's practically admitting Greene's epithet was accurate and then inquiring whether it should be avoided because it's mean!

And yet maybe Stahl made the right choice in not inquiring into why it's acceptable to conflate pedophilia and the sexualizing of children or whether what Democrats support deserves to be called the "sexualizing of children" or what transgender surgery has to do with sexualization. Majorie Taylor Greene gives forthright, strong answers, and Stahl would need to be sharp and articulate. She didn't even try.

Here's the full interview.

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* As I've noted on more than one occasion, "flummox" is my favorite word.

146 comments:

Joe Bar said...

Good choice for a favorite word!

tim maguire said...

Shorter Greg Sargent: How dare she present the most extreme cases as the norm when we want to present the most benign cases as the norm!

And please don't notice that I am implicitly admitting that those most extreme cases happen. I don't want anybody to talk about them.

Aggie said...

How far we've come as a culture. MTG says the upspeakable - well, unspeakable in certain quarters anyway. What is the trend of young children speculating on their 'gender'? Is it happening sooner, I wonder why? Why is it considered acceptable to usher a child through a process of irreversible mutilation - either chemical, drug, or surgical - that will render them sterile?

The Progressive Left always seems to choose umbrage & outrage then punitive measures, when the forbidden words are spoken, rather than defend their positions honestly, with winning ideas. It's a Loser's ploy.

Jupiter said...

Here is what Democrats like to do to children. If this doesn't make you sick to your stomach, then you probably voted for Joe Biden.

Quayle said...

I prefer less rancor. But I note that one side doesn't like some words and wants to stop them from being uttered. But they expect everyone to passively accept their word "affirming" as in "gender affirming". Perhaps one side can stop using the words groomer etc. if the other side agrees to use the term "gender altering" treatments.

wendybar said...

Almost as bad as MAGA being called insurrectionists.

wendybar said...

Stahl is the idiot who interrupted Trump to tell him the lap top wasn't wasn't verified. The Propagandists have their talking points and they don't deviate from what the state tells them to say.

BIII Zhang said...

Not every Democrat is a pedophile. But every pedophile is a Democrat.

The Democrats are pedophile-adjacent, let's say, and are supportive of pedophilic behaviors.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

My guess is that Stahl just figures MTJ is a rube and hillbilly and that's the kind of answer that rubes and hillbillies would give, and thus she had accomplished her mission, demonstrating to the sophisticates in her audience that MTJ is a rube and a hillbilly. Oh, and a transphobe.

Dave Begley said...

Nebraska state Senator Megan Hunt has threatened to sue the conservative Nebraska Freedom Coalition for calling her a "groomer" on Twitter. A demand letter has been sent.

Senator Hunt has a 12-year-old daughter. At age 10, this girl decided she is a boy. Ten! Sen. Hunt told the entire world that fact on the floor of the Unicameral. She then went on to say something to the effect that, "some people will call me a groomer."

Senator Hunt is represented by former Senator Adam Morfeld. Morfeld ran for county attorney, but he'd never tried a case in his entire life.

Morfeld's demand letter asserted that calling Hunt a "groomer" was libel per se because Sen. Hunt was called a criminal. One problem. All crimes in Nebraska are statutory and "grooming" isn't a crime. "Grooming" is defined in Chapter 79 of the Nebraska Revised Statutes and that is the chapter dealing with schools. The statute required that all school districts have a written policy against grooming.

Morfeld and Hunt are trying to create the crime of "grooming" out of thin air. That's worse than conflation.

Morfeld recently formed an organization called the Nebraska Legal Action Fund with the purpose of stopping hate, harassment and misinformation. The real mission is lawfare against conservatives.

Hunt and Morfeld are plainly stupid, ignorant and dishonest. But, hey, that's why they are Dems.

The really bizarre thing is that LB 574, which would keep kids whole, has been called "genocide" by the NE Dems. These people are unhinged.

Quaestor said...

As for the Democrats and MTG's supposed "insult" (Strange how Althouse frets over insults aimed at Democrats and liberals but stands cruelly neutral when Republicans and conservatives receive insults. Or is it?) let us agree that, while not pedos themselves, they are pedophile enablers. Of course, since many pedophiles are doomed by their miswired brains to lust after children and therefore are not entirely culpable for their foul deeds, enablers certainly are.

Dave Begley said...

There's a new article in The Free Press about what the Washington University gender clinic was doing to young kids in St. Louis. Shocking.

Elliott A. said...

Why use the euphemism, "gender affirming care", if you are not covering up what you are doing?While teens may realize they are same sex attracted, no adolescent can really know they prefer to be the opposite sex. To give them drugs that sterilize them, which cause possible psychoses, and which also alter brain development should not be tolerated by anyone. If they feel that way when they reach 18, let them have at it. The supporters of such treatment of children are themselves very sick indeed.

Virgil Hilts said...

Not a real big fan of MTG but largely agree with her.
I guess they are different kinds of sins, but is a surgeon who cuts off the breasts of a health 15 year old girl for $10,000, really a better person than someone who purchases child porn? I would probably put them in the same circle in hell.

cfs said...

The leftist pedophiles do not like being called out on their actions. So, let's just pretend its not happening. Instead, let's go with "Republican's pounce", or today's new phrase, "Republican's conflate".

Alexander said...

Words I am curious to know whether WaPo or CBS support narrow or broad definitions:

Racism
Antisemitism
Islamophobia
White Supremacist
Nazi
Sex, as it relates to biological classification
Privilege
Nation
Citizen
Refugee
Colonist

Mutating the genitalia of a minor is pedophilia, simple as. Especially when no matter how you slice it it's very obviously and openly tied to sexual activity and preferences (you wanted the T at the end of LGB, and you got it!)

Whether we should accommodate *adults* who want such surgeries or lifestyle recognition in society without discrimination is a debate (one which we should not, as the "slippery slope" has proven to be completely accurate), but pushing it on children is a malicious sexual perversion. The left objectifies to shining light on it. Not surprising, as for WaPo, "Democracy dies in the darkness" isn't a warning, but a goal to strive for.

Rollo said...

Sorry AA, the most interesting thing here is the word "flummoxed."

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

"Sexualizing children is what pedophiles do to children. "

correct.

Why the left melt down.

Enigma said...

On this topic one could take the conflation beyond pedophilia. Surgery on pre-pubescent children is nearly identical to the quack medicine of WW2 Japanese and German doctors in concentration camps. Each demonstrated how know-it-alls in power happily "play god" with the lives of others.

We eat chickens, we eat cows, we eat fish, we eat children for the profits of costly lifelong "gender-affirming care."

Would these 2020s medical practitioners have been executed if they were instead Germans at the end of WW2? Perhaps they are due a worse fate, as the Germans believed in ideological eugenics while the current crop apparently focus on profit. They also create a maimed population of future adults who are sexually attractive only to pedophiles (now) and (later) non-reproductive persons.

Attractive to pedophiles and war criminals?

Wa St Blogger said...

If you have ever worked with children in an official capacity, you probably have been required to view a course on child safety which includes discussions on appropriate an inappropriate activities an adult can be involved in with a child including what constitutes grooming. If you are unfamiliar with the current understanding of what grooming is in that context, then you are not really able to discuss the issue at hand.

These courses make it very clear what grooming is and what its purposes are. Here is one of the factors in grooming:

3. They discuss inappropriate adult topics with you
Groomers may bring up unnecessary and inappropriate topics in conversation with you. Zrenchik says they may try to discuss:

Their intimate relationships
Their marriage
Sex


In essence they are trying to get the child comfortable with sexual topics so that they would be more receptive to sexual activity.

What MTG is "conflating" is that the democrats are supporting and advancing the idea that kids should be subject to teachings on sex and sexuality, to be exposed to various types of sexual activity through books, discussions and events and people whose main focus is overt sexual play (transvestites). and do it for children as young as 5. She is calling that grooming, because under the definition of grooming, these would be grooming activities. The Dems want to say that their purpose is to create a loving and affirming environment for the children to explore their sexual selves on the off chance that one of them might actually be transgender. While they CLAIM that they only want to help kids navigate confusing identity issues, they are either lying, or more likely unwilling to admit that the conservatives are absolutely correct in their claim that this opens vulnerable children to sexual exploitation. They are indeed grooming children for exploitation, but they will claim they are helping children. They can hide behind the fact that they personally are not interested in sexual activity with the children, and thus are not groomers. But if their actions are the actions of a groomer and someone ELSE reaps the reward of your work, they are simply a groomer pimp. They don't don't have sex for money, they just make sure their stable is full of those who do.

So yes, MTG is right, the Dems are groomers.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

You can certainly highlight complete bad faith on both sides. If you remain indifferent to evils in the world, while having at least some awareness of them, then you are apparently complicit in them: rape, racism, etc. You haven't done enough, so you are morally not different from the actual, let us say evil, not just indifferent, perpetrators. The innocent who have a kind of natural indifference (we can only really care about a small number of people) are treated the same as the guilty.

So MGT turns the tables. Lots of adults know about aggressive "treatment" of kids for alleged gender misphoria or whatever: their bodies are wrong, something has to change. (I think the hippies used to think the body is perfect no matter what. Isn't there a chance of a vet in a wheelchair having sex with Jane Fonda?). At best there is questionable use of "science" here to go from extremely rare cases, two sets of genitalia, measurable quantifiable hormones being a mismatch with the body, etc., to kids somewhat moodily asserting, or being persuaded to assert, that they are in the wrong body.

Apparently it is not that rare to have parents who are quite enthusiastic about their kids going through gender transference or whatever. Get kidnapped by aliens for a while--that will be an adventure. Run away with the circus--then I won't have to worry about where you are. Be the center of attention in a big research hospital--top experts with credentials up the wazoo, nurses and other professionals, all fussing about you. Variations of Munchausen, or Munchausen by proxy. In some circles it may be cooler to have a trans kid than a gay kid. Coming out as gay implies submitting to boring old nature--I am what I am, please alter the laws so I have some chance at happiness. Much of the trans talk implies that there is no detectable nature that means anything: a kid simply feels something, maybe something fleeting like teenage angst, or wills something--"will" in a way the magic word of late German philosophy. Physics may teach us we have no real freedom, but "will" or "choice" implies we have freedom despite everything.

MGT is asking: are all the adults who know something about what is going on with trans kids complicit in hormone therapy and surgery (neither of which may be reversible), supposedly to ensure a kid can have the right kind of sex, or something? Does the drastic therapy leave some of the patients struggling to have any kind of sex? When trans adults are encouraged to perform for children, sometimes exposing genitalia or using images to confirm a lot of detail about what goes where, can these adults not potentially be seen as groomers, hoping to add to the population of people who will not be surprised at one kind of genitalia being exposed at bar closing time when another kind was expected?

The woke have enjoyed going after the Catholic Church for pederasty. Is it a fair question to ask whether they are actually going to be in favor of pederasty if some kind of nominal consent is received from a child?

Owen said...

"...As I've noted on more than one occasion, 'flummox' is my favorite word." I can see the appeal. The word conjures up a gentle beast of burden, given to wandering without clear purpose, also sometimes just standing in a state of confusion. I myself would very much like to own a brace of flummoxen, who could help me till my field and enrich its soil with their droppings.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Christians slaughtered by transgender lunitic.

Media blame Christians.

Iman said...

Stahl and Sargent can both take a flying Roger at a rolling donut. They have no standing.

Humperdink said...

The Commie-Pinkos are all on board with furthering the tranny movement. Just another group to foster and get donations from. Drag parties are part of this movement. Watching adults expose their young children to this, including twerking, is grooming in my opinion. Teachers exposing their elementary to this movement would be another example. And of course, the de facto leader of the dems grooms children at every opportunity. That would be Soiled Pants himself.

Jamie said...

And yet maybe Stahl made the right choice in not inquiring into why it's acceptable to conflate pedophilia and the sexualizing of children or whether what Democrats support deserves to be called the "sexualizing of children" or what transgender surgery has to do with sexualization.

Like so many, I'm not a fan of Greene, but she did pull off a rhetorical Catch-22 here, it seems to me. If Stahl had pursued the question, "How is talking with young children about their sexual preferences the same as pedophilia?" or even "Is it fair to conflate pedophilia and elementary-school lessons in sex and gender and what can be done to you about your discomfort if you don't feel 100% comfy in your skin?", it would have opened the door to a big gotcha: oh, so Democrats really are in favor of sexualized conversatios with young kids!

I really hope I haven't typo'ed the latter half of this comment - somehow I made the comment box skinny up into a sliver about half the height of a line of text.>

Gusty Winds said...

Aren't liberals at all concerned about who did what and to whom on Epstein's Island? Doesn't the constant barrage of public school teachers pushing transgenderism, homosexuality, and other sexual issues to grade school kids concern liberals?

Why doesn't this concern liberal women?

I'll say this. Trumps indictment over Stormy Daniels is proof he never went to Epstein's island and messed around with the young girls. It's probably one of many reasons he is on the outside of the current uniparty and the liberal elite.

MTG is right. Sexualizing young children is pedophilia. Obviously Leslie Stahl doesn't care one bit.

PM said...

"gender-affirming treatment for adolescents"
This is precisely the language, and thinking, that many adults find objectionable. Adolescence begins at age 10. Are we to advocate for this at that age? Or 12 or 13? As to the cozy word-choice 'affirming' - are we certain that a twelve-year-old who claims to be in the wrong body IS in the wrong body? Amazing that someone that young can trigger a change of gender, yet isn't considered capable enough to drive to the doctor's.

Limited blogger said...

Fight fire with fire

Jim said...

I adhere to the words of the founder of the Boy Scouts, Lord Baden-Powell.

"In Scouting for Boys he advised those who feel sexual urges to 'wash your parts in cold water and cool them down'," says the Times. No blushing now.

"In a later book, Rovering to Success," the Times continues, "[Baden-Powell] wrote that young men should not indulge their 'primitive sexual urges' but should put their energies into hiking and the enjoyment of out-of-door manly activities rather than 'aimless loafing and smutty talks'."

Robert Cook said...

Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is "despicably dishonest," and she is profoundly stupid.

mezzrow said...

Stahl was unprepared for this because, to her, MTG's response was inconceivable. Further, it is consistent with the views of a large slice of American society. She doesn't know how that slice will react to this conviction, but they're armed and she'd probably be terrified if she really thought it through, so she doesn't.

I bet she didn't imagine she'd ever be talking about this four years ago. "Don't look at this, look at the Trump mugshot" works for the tamed professionals, but the proles like MTG are scary. The surgical victims of the craze are as irrelevant as the dead boys littering the streets of our cities, victims of being allowed to pursue their private wars after the police have been tamed and cowed into the shadows. If you'll call out the gender change industry, you'll call this stuff out too.

We're allowing them to live their most authentic lives. Behold the virtue. Stein's law beckons.

Mason G said...

"Gender-affirming treatment" or "Genital mutilation"?

po-tay-to... po-tah-to

Yancey Ward said...

Here is your first clue as to what is going on- the use of the phrase "gender affirming care". If you can't tell from the words what is being described, then those using the phrase are trying to hide what it is that they are doing to children.

This is active evil going on in our midst.

Humperdink said...

Two choices for gender affirming care: 1) Therapy or 2) Surgery. If you are an adult, feel free to make your choice (and pay for it). If you are a child, number 2 is out. If as a child, you are forced/ convinced/ groomed to go number 2, someone is committing child abuse.

Justin_O_Guy said...

I'm a Trump supporter. The feigned sensitivity to uncomfortable words used to describe the left is actually funny. As a Trump supporter I learned a lot about myself. I discovered I'm a racist, and when I deny it, that proves it. I'm a bigot. I engage in Prejudicial Discrimination.
But pointing out that men are dressing up and reading things to children that would have seen them arrested twenty years ago. They are dressing in ways that allow children to see genitals. It's perverted. But pointing it out is just hurtful...

I rarely respond here, I can't wait to see if this gets past the review.

traditionalguy said...

(1) The little girls talked into fixing themselves by School Counselors are rendered barren for life. When they still feel unhappy they are (2) dosed with the usual antidepressant pharmaceutical cocktail until suicide is the next thought and that requires (3) mental hospital stays.

Every step is a huge money maker for the medical monopolistic cash cows.

In the little boys case the systematic making of young men into angry eunuchs gives the whole Crime Wave its own team of hyper warriors to threaten and attack all whistleblowers of their fake Medical Care.

This definitely is a money maker. Wall Street needs to make investment vehicles to spread the loot.

gilbar said...

I'd be interested, in hearing NPR's views on this.. If they hadn't laid off so many trans folk
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/after-nprs-major-layoff-employees-accuse-ceo-racism
Last week, looking down the barrel of a $30 million budget shortfall, NPR slashed 10% of its staff across all its departments.
So far, the layoffs hit 84 people, including senior European correspondent and 41-year vet Sylvia Poggioli. NPR said skin-color and membership in marginalized groups factored into their choices of whom to fire.
President and CEO John Lansing used slides with metrics to tell employees a bad news/good news story: Sure, NPR's Q1 sponsorship revenue had crashed 30%, but the post-layoff employee diversity readings are roughly the same as before the cuts.

However, one can imagine the grim tone Lansing struck as he disclosed that trans representation in the programming department slipped from 2.5% to 1.2%.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Not only did Greene casually conflate “sexualizing children” with transgender care

That's because the two cohabitate. To be more clear, should should have talked about all the Democrats screaming in horror that DeSantis won't let teachers discuss their sex lives with Kindergarteners ("Don't say gay!!11!"). But the Venn diagram of those pushing the trans BS on kids, and those pushing the "talk gay with 5 year olds" BS, is a filled in circle.


but she also is being despicably dishonest by reducing gender-affirming care to “surgeries."
It's drugs that chemically castrated you, or surgeries that physically do the same.

The one being "despicably dishonest" is Greg Sargent, and all the others who try to pretend that the puberty destroying drugs are "reversal", or any less reprehensible than surgery.

gilbar said...

Oh, and as i pointed out the other day..
IF a 10 year old is mature enough to embark on 'gender affirming care'..
Then, SURELY, a 10 year old is mature enough to decide it wants to start sleeping with 30 year old men.
Right? i mean.. RIGHT?
That IS what this was all about, wasn't it? Saying that 10 year olds were 'mature enough'?

Kevin said...

Stahl should have been prepared for this.

This is what happens when the media believes one side has all the answers and the other side has none of the answers.

Kevin said...

The real question is why Stahl was interviewing MTG at all.

And the real answer is they thought Greene could be easily trapped into looking like a fool.

Mattman26 said...

I suspect for a lefty journalist, "Wow. Okay." is a devastating riposte.

rhhardin said...

They have to show that they're not pedophiles, which has broad and narrow meanings. MTG just put it in the agenda.

Your adult concern for the comfort the child has with his legacy sex has pedophilic overtones without reaching very far.

Let stuff happen naturally, in other words.

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Another old lawyer said...

Stahl "utterly flummoxed" - like that's a big deal and tarely happens.

60 Minutes used to be 'never miss' for me. But that was decades ago. Now it's 'never watch.'

iowan2 said...

"Gender affirming care" has nothing to do with sexual desires

Homosexuality has nothing to do with sexual desire.

At least that's the claim. Despite the fact it is the only thing driving those individuals.

The only reason school libraries are shelving books teaching 8 year old boys how to give a blow jobs is normalizing the practice. The very essence of grooming.

Rob C said...

So during the large epidemic of bulimia that was impacting young girls was there a large push for "slender affirming care"?

Today you can find links describing the condition and suggesting treatment for it (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9795-bulimia-nervosa#management-and-treatment) but no links to their bariatric surgery group.

Since we understand that people (especially young people) can succumb to body image issues shouldn't we be looking a little more closely at that instead of simply taking them at their word?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I see Althouse trying to deconflate “'sexualizing children' with transgender care" but these are united by the transactivist movement itself. Why even be concerned with what kind of sex organs a child "wants" before the age when it matters? You can't provide "transgender care" to minors, at least pre-pubescent ones, without life-altering irreversible damage to their bodies.

boatbuilder said...

Leslie Stahl is still alive? And on TV? She must be 80 years old!

I checked. Born in December 1941. 82. Yikes.

readering said...

Leslie Stahl is 81 and should retire.

Big Mike said...

but she also is being despicably dishonest by reducing gender-affirming care to “surgeries.”

Actually, the sentence in which this clause is embedded is being dishonest, and probably despicably so. She did not “reduce” the Orwellian-named “gender-affirming care” to surgeries; Ms. Greene specifically called out surgeries as being particularly objectionable to people in the center and right because of the surgeries’ irreversibility. If a young boy later regrets the surgery and falls in love with a pretty female classmate, well that’s going to be just too bad. Without his penis and testicles she’s not going to be very interested in starting a family him. Or a girl may fall in love with a handsome young man and want to be his wife, but she’ll never have his children after her hysterectomy.

Feminists whose response to demands for intersectionality is to acquiesce to the removal of healthy breasts and a healthy uterus in minor children, how can they even be called feminists anymore?

Humperdink said...

Cookie asserted: "Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is "despicably dishonest," and she is profoundly stupid."

Made me laugh. Seeing the excerpt in question, that would make Leslie Stahl more dishonest and even more stooopid. Mr. Cook, you would be better off staying on topic.

Pillage Idiot said...

"Not only did Greene casually conflate “sexualizing children” with transgender care, but she also is being despicably dishonest by reducing gender-affirming care to “surgeries.” Yet this conflation of support for trans youth with pedophilia slipped by, unrebutted, to a national audience."

Althouse is so far out of her lane on this one, she is driving into oncoming traffic.

The current Leftist movement of sexualizing children is an absolute dream for pedophiles. (My wife has been the attorney for many children that have been sexually assaulted.)


In addition to enabling more pedophiles, sexualizing children is also a prerequisite to the social contagion of transgender ideation. The rate of transgender identification among children that attend highly sexualized drag shows is several orders of magnitude higher than the transgender identification among African tribes where children have strong gender role models and they don't discuss sex fetishes at school.

The biology of the children in Africa versus the children of deranged Leftists in America is almost identical. Transgenderism is a direct consequence of social conditioning. If you think otherwise, you are a biology illiterate.

Finally, surgical mutilations and puberty blockers are not "gender affirming" and certainly are not health care. These children are guaranteed to have long-term negative health outcomes in their future!

Drago said...

BIII Zhang: "Not every Democrat is a pedophile. But every pedophile is a Democrat.

The Democrats are pedophile-adjacent, let's say, and are supportive of pedophilic behaviors."

Indeed.

On this very blog Russia Collusion Truther Inga, victoria from pasadena and gadfly (The Poor Man's LLR-democratical C****) all called Joe Biden showering with his adolescent daughter a "perfectly normal" thing to do.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Kevin nails it: The real question is why Stahl was interviewing MTG at all. And the real answer is they thought Greene could be easily trapped into looking like a fool.

And they know a big chunk of the audience they have left will like Robert Cook reflexively barf up "she's dumb and she lies" to both reject any real engagement with the topic at hand and to engage in the standard ad hominem attack that is so ingrained in Marxists that they can't help themselves. Amazing how predictably reactionary alleged revolutionaries always are, ain't it?

But Greene held her ground and the host was flustered, not the conservative. Rather have her represent the brand than Lindsey Graham or the Turtle.

Drago said...

Robert Cook: "Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is "despicably dishonest," and she is profoundly stupid."

LOL

Looks like one of our resident marxists is as flummoxed as Lesley Stahl, thus the "dracula confronted with with a Cross" reaction and fleeing from the substance of the post like Hunter Biden fleeing a party that has run out of cocaine and underage girls.

Drago said...

I am happy to fight and die on this hill, even if the entirety of the GOPe has gone over to the other side.

walter said...

Greene: Democrats support, even Joe Biden, the president himself, supports children being sexualized and having transgender surgeries. Sexualizing children is what pedophiles do to children.
-edit-
And Leslie, don't you find it odd that Hunter Biden has referred to Joe as "Pedo Pete" and Joe's daughter claims he showered with her when she was a young child?

hombre said...

Evidently, MTG has seen videos of some of the drag shows for children that are enthusiastically supported by Democrats. If those twerking, humping trannies are not grooming/sexualizing children, what are they doing?

With Democrats it's ALL about grifting, race, climate change and sex. As for the latter: abortion, drag shows for kiddies, mutilating children, LGBT "rights", why not pedophilia? By the usual relativistic standard pedophilia is the next step. LGBTP sounds about right.

How about polygamy and child brides? Again, why not?

TeaBagHag said...

Gusty Winds said...
Aren't liberals at all concerned about who did what and to whom on Epstein's Island?

I'll bite, Sparky. I'm concerned about everybody who rapes children. Including your MAGAt cult leader. It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage.

Sebastian said...

"Greene concisely stated the bold concept that sexualizing children is pedophilia."

Green is correct. She identified the prog vanguard.

"whether name-calling — saying things like "pedophile" — is bad form!"

For now. We're in the early prog phase of: no way we're doing what mean deplorables say we're doing! Right before they turn around to say that: of course, we're doing it, and it's the right thing to do! Right before they declare victory by saying: it's the arc of history, and anyone who objects is nazi scum!

"Majorie Taylor Greene gives forthright, strong answers"

It's good of Althouse to say so.

But the "conflation" is a simple recognition that all prog depredations are connected, part of a single package to undermine traditional morality, basic assumptions in the culture, and social order itself. Kids are tools.

Dude1394 said...

They are pedophile supporters. When they push for unfettered and minors getting mutilated both under the knife and with drugs, they are pushing their pedophiles and damage to children.

n.n said...

Trans/homosexual males in schools, churches, Boy Scouts, etc.

Social progressives on casting couches, posing as friends with "benefits", genderfication at a volatile period of human evolution, rape that is not rape-rape, etc.

Conflation of sex and gender has reaped diverse victims for the sake of pride and prejudice.

Drago said...

walter: "And Leslie, don't you find it odd that Hunter Biden has referred to Joe as "Pedo Pete" and Joe's daughter claims he showered with her when she was a young child?"

As I mentioned earlier re: Inga's, victoria's and gadfly's quite passionate support for Joe Biden showering with his daughter and labeling it "perfectly normal", I'm afraid the answer to walter's is an emphatic "no", the lefties/LLR-lefties do not find it odd in the slightest that Joe showered with and sexualized his adolescent daughter.

Quaestor said...

"Why use the euphemism, "gender-affirming care"...?

Indeed. Could be for the same reason there was this "final solution of the Jewish question" a while back.

Euphemisms are always intended to disguise nasty truths from the gullible and the unwary.

Matt said...

The left doesn't like groomer b/c it is effective. "Brevity is the soul of wit" as Limbaugh used to say.

Groomer is short, immediately identifies what is being talked about, and that what is being talked about is bad.

That is why they hate it and that is why it must never go away. Pretty sure it's in Alinsky's rules somewhere.

Drago said...

TeaBagHag: "It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage."

It's actually well documented that Trump was NOT a close pal of Epstein and Trump took exactly ZERO trips to rape island.

So, other than those "small discrepancies", TeaBagHag's comment has all the "truthiness" and "accuracy" needed to be published in Rolling Stone Magazine or the New York Times.

Although I am disappointed that TeaBagHag in Full Lie mode failed to at least try and make up names for the fictional "rapey entourage". It would have been entertaining to see what direction she would have gone in with those lies.

Sebastian said...

Pillage Idiot: "The biology of the children in Africa versus the children of deranged Leftists in America is almost identical."

Come to think of it, what percentage of trannies is black? Is transgenderism one of the Things White People Like?

Dave Begley said...

Why wasn't MTG asked about the Jewish space lasers? Was that edited out? Did Leslie not ask? How could she not ask?

n.n said...

While teens may realize they are same sex attracted, no adolescent can really know they prefer to be the opposite sex.

Cisgender, with social progress (e.g. grooming), perhaps, but they can never change their sex, and so-called "gender affirming care" leaves them despondent, even degraded with an abortive mental state. The trans visibility activists need to own their creation(s).

n.n said...

How about polygamy and child brides? Again, why not?

The Pro-Choice ethical religion, thus the "Respect for Marriage Act", political congruence ("="), transgender parades, etc.

That said, if you're woke and inclusive, and morally congruent, and ethically equitable, civil unions for all consenting adults.

JHapp said...

Exposing a child to just the possibility that they could choose something other than traditional motherhood or fatherhood as a life vocation is grooming. Most of us still reproduce the old fashioned way by having sex. Trans people reproduce thru grooming.

walter said...

wendybar said...
Stahl is the idiot who interrupted Trump to tell him the lap top wasn't wasn't verified.
--
Repeatedly whining "No" like Joe's daughter in the shower.

Butkus51 said...

actually teabag is incorrect, but whatever

Narayanan said...

do MSM types know the criminals among them?

Richard Aubrey said...

Can you "conflate" two or more issues which have already self-conflated?

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I don’t know if all alphabets and trans talk to kids the way Jeffrey Marsh does. I’m not up on all that.

However, from what I’ve seen on Libs of TikTok, Jeffrey Marsh is one sick puppy.

traditionalguy said...

MTG fires at the Dems like an A-10 main gun. Being picky over whether supporting pedophiles or supporting LBQT+++ groomer gangs Is the same thing is a losing distinction. The evil Dems do both, honor both, and attack everybody who opposes either one.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Did CBS folk not game it out?

I'm sure they did, but much like Admiral Yamamoto's officers war gaming the invasion of Midway Island; they made too many assumptions about what their opponent would or wouldn't do based on a faulty estimation of said opponents character.

Luckily for Stahl the stakes were much lower than the were for the IJN.

rcocean said...

Yaawwwn. Yes, the antisemite smear, the white supremist smear, the authoritarian smear, the nazi smear, the racist smear.

All A-OK. Against the Center-Right.

But "groomer" and "pedophile"

OMG. That's beyond the pale.

Just - Shut - up.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

In defense of MJT. Who does pronouns perfectly?

Oh, wait. I think I’m conflating some.

rcocean said...

Here's my answer to the WaPo.

Fuck You.

William said...

2 + 2 + 5 [for large values of 2 and small values of 5] Simply substitute pedophile for the 2 in the equation. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck … you figure it out.

MTG was using pedophile as a synecdoche. Duh.

Real American said...

"gender-affirming care" isn't just surgeries. Brainwashing and drugging also occurs.

Frankly, the use the word "care" to describe what is actually going on is dishonest to the core. It implies some type of treatment, when it is not. It not care at all. Quite the opposite. It's 100% not giving a shit about the person being given the "care".

It's also not "gender-affirming" since it is part of a scam that pretends someone actually is what they actually are not - the opposite sex. No amount of feelings, surgeries and hormones can turn you into the opposite sex. It's literally impossible. It's more accurately called gender-confusion and gender-delusion.

It'd be better and most honest to call it what it is: PURE EVIL pushed by sick, evil fucks.

Michael K said...

Robert Cook said...

Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is "despicably dishonest," and she is profoundly stupid.


OK Groomer.

I'll bite, Sparky. I'm concerned about everybody who rapes children. Including your MAGAt cult leader. It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage.

We are awash in groomers today,. Trump actually threw Epstein out of Mar a Lago but you keep showering with Brandon.

Gusty Winds said...

TeaBagHag said:
Including your MAGAt cult leader. It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage.

Can you provide any of this "well documented" evidence Trump ever visited Epstein Island?

You can't, because he didn't. Guy like Trump didn't need to. He can get Karen McDougals (smokin' hot playmate of the hear) on his own. And he's not married to some frumpy lesbian like Hillary.

The fact is Trump banned Epstein from Mara Lago after receiving complaints.

MGT is right. Democrats promote pedophilia.

Inga said...

“Not every Democrat is a pedophile. But every pedophile is a Democrat.”

Mark Foley, Dennis Hastert, Gym Jordan, Roy More, Donald Trump- Miss Teen USA dressing room, Matt Gaetz possibly, just a few…

Jersey Fled said...

If you can call chopping up a baby in her mother's womb "healthcare" you can call anything anything.

MadisonMan said...

which left [Lesley] Stahl utterly flummoxed
In my experience, it's not difficult to flummox octogenarians.

Shouting Thomas said...

Scott Adams’ view of this was that Greene annihilated Stahl.

Robert Cook said...

"Made me laugh. Seeing the excerpt in question, that would make Leslie Stahl more dishonest and even more stooopid. Mr. Cook, you would be better off staying on topic."

Ha! My objectively correct assessment of Ms. Greene has nothing to do with her interview with Leslie Stahl, which I have not viewed. Greene has always been stupid and dishonest, (at least, for as long as she has been in the public eye, braying her uninformed "thoughts" in front of cameras and microphones.) That there are other stupid and/or dishonest persons in office in Washington (or acting as journalists on television) is indisputable, but that neither mitigates nor justifies Greene's deficiencies. She is a sorry (and exemplary) example of the deterioration in public propriety, knowledge, thought and discourse occurring in the USA, (and probably elsewhere).

wendybar said...

TeaBagHag said...
Gusty Winds said...
Aren't liberals at all concerned about who did what and to whom on Epstein's Island?

I'll bite, Sparky. I'm concerned about everybody who rapes children. Including your MAGAt cult leader. It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage.

4/4/23, 12:53 PM

It's well known you are ignorant of the facts. Do you really think if he went there, that the left and their propagandists wouldn't have leaked that?? He kicked Epstein OUT of Mar-a lago when Epstein hit on a daughter of one of the members.

MikeDC said...

"Greene concisely stated the bold concept that sexualizing children is pedophilia."

Could we just take a big step back and agree to the bold concept that sexualizing children is bad?

Iman said...

“I'll bite, Sparky.”

Look what crawled out from under its rock!

Yes, you do bite, Hag that Tea Bags.

Jim at said...

If the left doesn't like being called groomers, maybe they could stop grooming kids.

It just might work.

Jim at said...

Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is "despicably dishonest," and she is profoundly stupid.

I notice you didn't say she was wrong.

Mr Wibble said...

How about polygamy and child brides? Again, why not?

They've been sidestepping towards polygamy for years. I honestly expected it before now.

Shouting Thomas said...

A Robert Cook denunciation is a solid gold endorsement.

Robert Cook said...

"Sexualizing children is what pedophiles do to children."

Do you, then, consider all the middle-class mothers around the nation, (most of them likely Republicans), enrolling their little girls, starting as soon as--5? 6? younger?--in child beauty pageants to be pedophiles? They're certainly doing their best (and spending large dollars) to make their little tots over into tawdry replicas of grown women, with the tykes' clothing, makeup, and on-stage behavior intended to create seductive and overtly sexual appearances. Do you not think the television (and in-person?) audiences for these pageants may be contain, to a great amount, actual pedophiles?

If Ms. Greene is going to make sensational (and unsupported) accusations that "the Dems are pedophiles," if she is truly motivated by genuine concern--rather than by her inability to discuss with any knowledge the more complicated affairs of US State and the world--why does she not condemn these Perv Palaces wherein child beauty pageants are held, and where their facilitators (mothers) and seamy audiences gather?

Humperdink said...

I responded to Cookie: "Made me laugh. Seeing the excerpt in question, that would make Leslie Stahl more dishonest and even more stooopid. Mr. Cook, you would be better off staying on topic."

Cookie Respnods "Ha! My objectively correct assessment of Ms. Greene has nothing to do with her interview with Leslie Stahl, which I have not viewed. Greene has always been stupid and dishonest, (at least, for as long as she has been in the public eye, braying her uninformed "thoughts" in front of cameras and microphones.) That there are other stupid and/or dishonest persons in office in Washington (or acting as journalists on television) is indisputable, but that neither mitigates nor justifies Greene's deficiencies. She is a sorry (and exemplary) example of the deterioration in public propriety, knowledge, thought and discourse occurring in the USA, (and probably elsewhere)."

You've done it again! You stay off topic and continue down your rodent hole. Give some examples oh enlightened one. Whilst doing that, recall WF Buckley stating he would rather be governed by the first 500 names on the NY phone book (back when NY was more normal). You live in NYC, correct?

iowan2 said...

60 Minutes used to be 'never miss' for me. But that was decades ago. Now it's 'never watch.'

I built up an immunity to the Gell Mann amnesia Effect early in life. I was watching 60 minutes do a report on aerial spraying of high lines for vegetative control. They reported health affects to people living within one or two mile of the high line, and the product they were using. Except the symptoms did not match the chemistry, one with a low mammalian toxicity. The also offered no persons, like the county extension office that would have traced the symptoms and chemistry lack of alignment.
I kept watching for several years but started to notice the raw one side presentation of facts, and caught several more gross errors, concerning 60 minutes "reporting". I finally caught on, and haven;t watched 2 minutes in over 3 decades.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Why wasn't MTG asked about the Jewish space lasers?

Dave I believe they identify as Israeli Defense Lasers and they will not confirm whether they do or do not work in space. I am also curious about those kind of things. Especially with Biden ostracizing our ally Israel. I've seen no evidence MTG's a Jew hater like so many Democrats are, but I do find her confused at times. Leslie won't ask because 60 Minutes doesn't GAF about antisemitism.

Mason G said...

With Democrats, it always seems to come back to "How DARE you talk about what we're doing?"

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

TeaBag is trying real real hard to not notice Trump has always pursued GROWN WOMEN not sniffed little girls like Joe or pimped them out like Epstein. They always misread the obvious. Stupid leftists.

Inga said...

Drag Queen and MTG are two peas in a pod. Weirdos and liars, both. Soon we’ll hear from Drag Queen how Soro’s Jewish space lasers are being used to do surgery on young children, after Biden showers with them.

cfs said...

How is this for some conflating?

Also in today's news:

https://dailyheadlineslive.com/news/breaking-courtroom-orders-stormy-daniels-to-pay-trump-121962-56-in-legal-professional-charges-plus-the-500000-she-was-ordered-to-pay-him-final-yr-report/

"In what is likely to be one of the vital well-timed rulings of all time, the U.S. Ninth Circuit Courtroom of Appeals awarded former President Donald Trump $121,962.56 in legal professional charges from grownup movie star Stormy Daniels.

The practically $122,00 is along with the roughly $500,000 that she was ordered to pay him final 12 months."

Inga said...
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Inga said...

“Doesn't the constant barrage of public school teachers pushing transgenderism, homosexuality, and other sexual issues to grade school kids concern liberals?

Why doesn't this concern liberal women?”

Because it’s bullshit based on conspiracy theory.

JAORE said...

...she also is being despicably dishonest by reducing Nazi concentration camp activities to “gas chambers for the Jews".

After all, SOME of the activity was war production. Not ALL the prisoners were Jews. Many were killed by bullets.



BUMBLE BEE said...

Kill yer babies, mutilate the survivors. The byline of the Josef Mengle school of "Child Care", Auschwitz Birkenau. Having just recently completed a guided tour of a Holocaust Museum by a liberal Jewish Docent. I was shocked by the similarity in phrasing employed in the description of "medial procedures" employed by the democrats and SS-Hauptsturmführer Josef Mengele, M.D., Ph.D, himself a medical man of science.
Is there a reason adolescents/teens can't sign a binding contract? If so, what might those be?
Rape, Murder It's just a shot away. Still.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Lobotomy is also "care".
Discuss.

Deevs said...

Robert Cook, I've seen others bring up child beauty pageants in response to complaints about taking children to drag shows. Maybe you can answer a question for me about that.

As you wrote, "They're certainly doing their best (and spending large dollars) to make their little tots over into tawdry replicas of grown women, with the tykes' clothing, makeup, and on-stage behavior intended to create seductive and overtly sexual appearances." I've never seen a child beauty pageant, so I always imagined they were just dressing the girls up in silly outfits and having them perform little songs or dances. You know, stuff that mothers would think is cute to see their little girls do.

But let's take your description of these pageants* as accurate. You clearly disapprove of them. I would, too, if they're as you describe. Do you then similarly disapprove of taking kids to/allowing them to perform in drag performances, as seems to be a growing trend these days?

As for MGT, I imagine that taking kids to drag performances is at least part of what she's referring to when discussing the sexualization of children. If she is simply conflating transgender surgeries with sexualizing children, as the article implies, I would also think she's off base. That's clearly desexualizing children.

*And I hope it is for your sake. Otherwise, writing, "...clothing, makeup, and on-stage behavior intended to create seductive and overtly sexual appearances." sounds like you're telling on yourself.

Mike Petrik said...

I agree with Cook. MTG is stupid and dishonest. But even stupid and dishonest people are occasionally right, as Cook just demonstrated.

Chuck said...

"Operation: Let Them Talk."

The insidiously clever plot by Democrats to hold Republicans up to ridicule by listening to those Republicans respond to questions with uninterrupted answers, in which those Republicans say exactly what is on their mind.

Drago said...

Good news Robert Cook and Inga.

Drag Queen Camp for 7 to 11 year olds is now taking reservations for the summer!

https://www.carouseltheatre.ca/classes/drag-camp-2023/

Groomers.

Groomers.

Groomers.

mezzrow said...

When you're reviewing your objectively correct arguments for the benefit of a stoning party, you've lost the argument Cookie. This doinking the kiddos trope goes all the way back to Roman Polanski, Pretty Baby, and Lolita and is lashed to progressive artistic desires like a lamprey eel. You've found a place no one wants to argue over or discuss in the normie world.

Go stand next to that poster of Jimmy Savile and consider your position. This won't be a fair fight. You can't win. This is only gaining momentum. Congratulations. Denouncing the hillbillies won't help either. How did you even put yourself in this place? SMH.

Patrick Henry said...

I would encourage everyone to listen to this podcast with Sara Stockton about "gender affirming" care: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5p5WdHFHnPh5Zxt2ULT1sv?si=733819cc417841dd

Yes, Jordan Peterson talks too much, but what Sara has to say is terrifying.

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Drago said...

Russia Collusion Truther and Hillary/FBI Hoax Dossier Dead Ender Inga: "Because it’s bullshit based on conspiracy theory."

LOL

Tell that to all the liberal parents in VA who found out precisely what was going on in their schools and voted Youngkin into office.

In fact, Inga's pathetic lies in support of her grooming allies has been completely exposed, not to mention the groomers launching tik toks bragging about what they do behind the parent's backs.

And now Gavin Newsome and his co-groomer enabler democraticals in CA are offering sexual "sanctuary" for 12 years olds to get away from their families and come to CA where they will most certainly be "taken care of".

Readers at Althouse blog will recall that even when democratical legislators were offering up abortions laws up to the moment of delivery and a few even after delivery, Inga was on these threads lying about those bills and pretending she knew nothing about them. Even after the links were provided she still pretended they didn't exist.

This democratical grooming activity is following the same Inga "faux ignorance" patterns as all the rest.

walter said...

Cookie and Inga are just trying to normalize the disturbing late night sounds emanating from their bunk beds of "asylum seekers" of all ages.

Maynard said...

It is fascinating that our resident Marxist (Cookie) and resident Dumb Liberal (Inga) get all excited about pedophiles and grooming.

Wait until the Ashley Biden diary hits the news.

Oops!

Michael K said...


Blogger Inga said...

“Not every Democrat is a pedophile. But every pedophile is a Democrat.”

Mark Foley, Dennis Hastert, Gym Jordan, Roy More, Donald Trump- Miss Teen USA dressing room, Matt Gaetz possibly, just a few…


A veritable avalanche of vomit from the resident dullard. She ignores Barney Frank and his gay whore house. Trump and Gaetz are lies as is Roy Moore. Inga has a strong affinity for lies ever since the Russia Hoax.

I assume most notice that Hillary is not being prosecuted for charging the payments for the "dossier" as "legal expenses."

Greg the Class Traitor said...

Wa St Blogger 4/4/23, 11:37 AM

Very nicely summed up

Yes, no person of good intent discusses sex with other people's kids, unless they're a doctor or a cop looking into the possibility of sexual abuse, or a teacher sticking strictly to the lesson plan for an age appropriate sex education class that's been approved by the parents of the kids in the class.

Any grade school teacher who is eager to tell her students that she's a lesbian is a monster, and a groomer.

Any adult who encourages kids to think they're trans, and should go through "gender affirming care", is a monster.

Greg the Class Traitor said...

TeaBagHag said...
I'll bite, Sparky. I'm concerned about everybody who rapes children. Including your MAGAt cult leader. It's well documented that Cheeto Mussolini was a close pal of Epstein and took multiple trips to rape island with him and his rapey entourage.

It's so "well documented" that TeaBagHag can't provide a single link

farmgirl said...

https://youtu.be/07DYmgoUnWM

Pertinent.
What’s the difference between sexualization of young, young children &pedophilia?
Or- put another way- what’s the connection.

It’s not separation of words- it’s the connection.

Guimo said...

Pedophile preys on pre-pubescent children. Ephebophile, on pubescent children.

Drago said...

Raise your hand if you find it completely unsurprising that LLR-democratical and Violent Homosexual Rape Fantasist Chuck comes out strongly in favor of his groomer co-democraticals?

Jamie said...

We're in the early prog phase of: no way we're doing what mean deplorables say we're doing! Right before they turn around to say that: of course, we're doing it, and it's the right thing to do! Right before they declare victory by saying: it's the arc of history, and anyone who objects is nazi scum!

I noticed it first with gay marriage - something to which I objected in lukewarm fashion because, though I had no problem with gayness generally and felt I understood the desire of gay people to make a public, legal commitment to their partners, I hesitated to go all the way in one step to calling it "marriage" when "civil union," plus a religious ceremony if your church allowed such, was available, just like in, say, Italy. With Megan McArdle, I hesitated, because the effects on the margins couldn't be predicted and could be harmful.

Well. Here we are on gay marriage, accomplished the way nationwide abortion "rights" was, and sure enough, it's not sufficient to tolerate gay marriage and homosexuality - it's a social requirement that you embrace and celebrate them, and hope your children are part of those ranks, or be vilified as fascists.

And it didn't stop there - now the T of LGBTQ+ is in the ascendant and we all have to embrace and celebrate discussion of sexuality with young children (and in particular, emphasis on how you don't have to stay the way you were born, genitally - a discussion that can't reasonably be seen as anything other than inappropriate at that age) and emphasis on "alternatives" to being male or female, straight or gay, in adolescence - with zero time spent on "Hey, your hormones are in overdrive right now, and some of your feelings may confuse you. We've all been there! Give it some time and see how everything shakes out."

Why? And how? How did the T group, which by any interpretation of biology must needs be tiny, get to be so powerful?

I don't want to, but I'm going back to our host's hierarchies of oppression. The grown-up T's are majority male, I think? (That is, M to F transgender - with a bumper crop of F to M coming up, unless these poor troubled, sterile girls find the courage to stop the trans train.) And it serves the purpose of some men - NOT ALL MEN, but the men who love Game and who actually do hate and enjoy degrading women - to co-opt the gains of feminism, to co-opt the gains of the Gay Pride movement, to twist girls' development horribly, to encourage boys to compete with, and win against, girls on girls' ground, and to make us all applaud about it like trained seals.

I hate this so much. When the gay marriage thing happened through the courts, rather than through state legislatures where we might have a prayer of assessing its effects before full national commitment, I was like, "Uh... I guess this is a thing now." At least it only directly involved adults. But this? It's specifically assumed at minors, including young children.

Jamie said...

Robert Cook. You do understand that a tu quoque is an admission of guilt?

John henry said...

 JAORE said...

Not ALL the prisoners were Jews. Many were killed by bullets.

About half of all those murdered in the national Socialist death campus were not Jewish.

I often get called an anti-semite when I mention that.

@12mm murdered total. About half Jewish, half non-Jews.

And "murdered" is the correct word, though seldom used in conjunction with socialist murders.

John Henry



John henry said...

I'm waiting for Little Darlings, a chain of strip clubs noted for gynecological levels of nude dancing gets into the act.

They are aptly yclept for having a "Little Darlings Strippers Story Hour".

Not dressed for work, of course. Make them cover up like the dragsters.

I want to see the first person who is OK with the dragsters complain about it.

John Henry

John Henry

Michael K said...

Blogger Chuck said...

"Operation: Let Them Talk."

The insidiously clever plot by Democrats to hold Republicans up to ridicule by listening to those Republicans respond to questions with uninterrupted answers, in which those Republicans say exactly what is on their mind.


Whereas Chuck only says what the groomers at the Lincoln Project tell him.

hawkeyedjb said...

"Marjorie Taylor Greene possesses two screamingly apparent and persistent qualities: she is despicably dishonest, and she is profoundly stupid."

When someone squeals this hard, it usually means an inconvenient fact has been stated. Change the subject, STAT!

Patrick Henry was right! said...

Uh, sexualizing kids IS pedophilia. Grooming happens and is a necessary precondition of pedophilia, as non-sexualized children won't be there for sexual abuse. They will, instead be boys and girls, living a normal, childhood of innocence.

Josephbleau said...

Historically, if you force Quaaludes on a 13 year old girl and penetrate her anally with your penis, you are a victim and need many awards to be made whole. Its sad that the LA superior court inconvenienced you so.


Richard Aubrey said...

A space laser could be used from one space vehicle against another, not necessarily from orbit to ground.

Current laser weapons--from ships against fast-movcng small boats for example--and possibly against incoming missiles--are in development if not deployed...


But, with their capacity to concentrate their energy, maybe a sufficiency of energy in an orbiting vehicle could be useful against a ground target. Many air forces have substantial overhead cover for their combat aircraft--those in theater, which might contain all the IDF's aircraft but you can't roof over a runway. How much laser energy per square inch does it take to disable an F15? Somebody's working his slide rule on that question.

Mark said...

Drago, you fail to see that you are the wolf who cried 'groomer' one too many times to be believed.

You are so stupid as to think that your stupid talking point is always going to work. People are seeing through your one note attack bell.

Enjoy the WI Supreme Court loss

walter said...

Please Chuck,
Tell us your grand LLR strategery for our future.
You seem like a man with a plan.
Spill..

Eva Marie said...

Patrick Henry said...
“I would encourage everyone to listen to this podcast with Sara Stockton”
Thank you for recommending this. I listened to this episode of the Jordan Peterson podcast on the Apple podcast app.
It was excellent.

rwnutjob said...

You have to wonder about a woman who takes her child to a show where middle aged fat men dressed as strippers perform sexually for children.

If you'll notice, it's mostly affluent white women virtual signaling their openness to the latest thing. It's the same thing as showing off their pink pony boy dressed as a girl. The worst of the lot, give puberty blockers to grammar schoolers & cut off the breasts of girls before they are adults. It's Munchausen syndrome by proxy. You have to ask also where are the Dads? The ones there are beta boys doing what Mama said

The real question is why would a middle aged fat male want to perform sexually for children.

It's not gender dysphoria, that occurs naturally in .001% of the population, but actually male transvestites who like to dress up as women because it sexually arouses them.

The worst of the lot, push boundaries with gender neutral bathrooms & NCAA dressing rooms where they proudly show off their manhood to hear the gasps from horrified girls & women.

Society is circling the drain.

Jamie said...

Drago, you fail to see that you are the wolf who cried 'groomer' one too many times to be believed.

Maybe true. But, as with Cook's tu quoque, you're eliding the fact the there really was a wolf.

gahrie said...

A space laser could be used from one space vehicle against another, not necessarily from orbit to ground.

A KEW is cheaper and currently doable.

farmgirl said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jL_abMcj16c

I googled “children exposed to drag queens” &so many videos piped up. Don’t take my word for it- normalization of the fetish extreme is all the rage. Is it natural to take the dark sides of sexual links and expose very young children to it? Should the acts of enhanced sexuality be as blasé as any other PDAs?

I’m so thankful I’m too busy trying to survive financially in my little corner of the Kingdom that this issue doesn’t affect my day-to-day life.

Dodging a bullet.

GRW3 said...

The real conflation is between radical sex change surgery and gender affirming care.

Drago said...

Dumb Lefty Mark: "Drago, you fail to see that you are the wolf who cried 'groomer' one too many times to be believed.

You are so stupid as to think that your stupid talking point is always going to work. People are seeing through your one note attack bell.

Enjoy the WI Supreme Court loss"

I choose to enjoy the new republican super majority in the WI Senate (and only 2 seats away from a super majority in the WI House) along with the new republican super majorities in North Carolina and Louisiana due to the insane levels of grooming radical transgender BS you guys keep pushing.

If I yelled "groomer" every minute of every day it would still not approach the actual volume of your allies groomer activities.

Btw, have you signed up any of your family's children for Drag Camp yet?

Remember, they are taking them as young as 7....because of course they are. With all the chemical castration drugs and body mutilating surgery close behind.

So get used to hearing the rest of us opposing this literally demonic activity all the time.

Bob said...

Take the F off of flummox and you're left with lummox, which is also a word.