Newspaper coverage of the incident, though, had focused only on the dog feces, he said, whereas he wanted to start a debate about what should be allowed in arts criticism.
Well, he failed at that. You do something attention-getting and people will focus on what you yourself are responsible for drawing their attention to. If dog-shit-smearing was your idea of how to start a debate about anything other than dog-shit-smearing, you are a fool.
He welcomed constructive criticism, he said. He insisted he believed in freedom of speech where “nobody gets hurt.”
You hurt the critic by using dog shit as your mode of expression. You demonstrated where the line is drawn.
And it is so pathetic to use the old gender reversal here. We're supposed to picture a woman smearing dog shit on a man to try to help your side of the argument? How would we feel about this action if somebody else had done it? You did it! We're looking at you!
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Now there’s a new way to stop free speech!
No self-awareness and lives by projecting his emotions on all around. Sadly this isn't unique in the histrionic prima-donna arts-and-creativity crowd.
Odds are that his associates will eventually forgive and we'll have an new "dog shit" play/composition to memorialize the event.
I guess he gets to walk around and be pissed off for awhile then. Hopefully, it'll do him some good and he'll learn a few things in his new line of work.
i remember, the last time that *i* smeared dog-shit on someone's face..
People focused on the shit that time, too. For some reason, if you smear shit on someone's face..
THAT is what they focus on.
It ALMOST makes me wonder, if That is Why i smeared the dog-shit in the 1st place
I see this headline while listening to this Triggernometry podcast: "Defending Women Cost Me My Business - Rosie Kay"
Her story is that at a party with alcohol (that fact matters to her), she got in a heated argument with some of her dancers over whether to cast a woman or a trans-woman in the role of "Orlando" based on the Virginia Wolff novel. Because she gave the wrong answer, she was pushed out of the dance company she founded. With her exit, the dance company soon became insolvent, and everyone lost their job.
I suspect if Goecke was a woman, it would not be seen differently. At least not in the way he thinks.
"I graduated at the top of my class. I rose to the top of my profession. I wrote a successful novel. I was on the city council. I've donated to a hundred different charities. And yet, I f**k one goat, and that's all that anyone remembers."
"Says, “You’re dancin’ with whom they tell you to
Or you don’t dance at all”
It’s tough out there
High water everywhere"
This gives a whole new meaning to the term 'shit faced,' though he is displaying he has shit for brains.
So, "theaters and opera houses [are] still trying to tempt audiences back after pandemic shutdowns and interruptions...." Says something about their target audiences, doesn't it?
Sports venues don't seem to be having that problem.
I assume he's gay so some feminine traits are allowed, like smearing dog feces.
Laura Ingraham, after breaking up with a boyfriend, ran a hose in the mail slot of his door and flooded the house. That's a feminine dog feces moment. (Story told on Imus.)
A director of anything should have the sense that their actions can have an influence on the people in their organization and how the organization is viewed by others.
It's difficult to get back to the high ground after smearing dog shit.
The ol' gender reversal argument doesn't work great even when it makes sense.
"If I'd been a woman and the critic a man, this would be seen differently."
Alas, he is right. It would be respectable to say that the feces smearing was (at least partly) a response to centuries of being suppressed and not listened to, that while it may have been a bad response, it was understandable, and male critics should be especially sensitive what they say about women's creations.
". Because she gave the wrong answer, she was pushed out of the dance company she founded. With her exit, the dance company soon became insolvent, and everyone lost their job."
I see Roseanne is back, and has a new special. Not sure what made me think of that.
I missed the chance to post this SNL bit the first time:
"Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance!
What a disgusting, despicable, cur. The assault he perpetrated should tarnish him forever. There is no excuse for what he did, none. What will his next tantrum exhibit?
he wanted to start a debate about what should be allowed in arts criticism.
Well, he started a debate about what should be allowed in responding to arts criticism, but unfortunately for him it was a very short debate and the answer was "not smearing dog poop on critics."
But this loony idea about starting "debate" by doing something egregiously awful and attention-getting is widespread among a certain sort of Western radical. Those Extinction Rebellion loonies, for example. It works about as well for them as it has done for this poor daft fellow.
So the critic got smeared with Gustav’s Finest.
There are many ways to signal displeasure. When one considers the wide palate of ways, some deadly, this seems benign.
On the previous thread, I thought I had posted a comment to the effect that his real mistake was doing this to a female critic as a male artist, but I apparently changed my mind or it got lost in a Whoops issue.
He is right, though- if he had been a female and the critic a male, this would have been covered very differently, and every honest person knows this.
Not to put too fine a point on it, rrhardin, but sticking a hose through a mail slot and flooding the house with it doesn't not seem manly.
None of this explains that thing Divine did, but it certainly brings it back to mind.
It must be really cold in Madison today.
Well, he did start “a debate about what should be allowed in arts criticism.” He doesn’t seem to have realized that not only did he do just that — but that he lost the debate.
What will his next tantrum exhibit?
I hear he plans on slapping Chris Rock.
This poses an interesting philosophical question. If Angela Bassett, instead of her husband, had gone up and slapped Chris Rock, I think it might very well have enhanced her career. If, however, she had gone up and smeared dog feces in Chris Rock's face, I think the gesture would have been universally condemned. But, of course, who carries around dog shit, especially when you're wearing one of those expensive gowns. I just don't see this gesture of defiance catching on except maybe at dog parks.
Art, not assault.
Tom T nails the terrible unfairness of it all at 7:36.
William, 10:53: Sorry to sharpshoot but Angela Bassett's husband is the excellent Courtney B. Vance. He really ought to be more famous but on the plus side, to my knowledge, he has never slapped Chris Rock.
Angela Bassett? Wrong dog, I think.
So would this high-strung poofter have tried sshmearing a male critic's face with dog shit?
I'd say he's lucky she didn't kick him in the nuts.
(I'm sure none of it was Gustav's idea, anyway. Except the pooping.)
"If I'd been a woman and the critic a man …”
And if pigs had wings they could fly. If the sexes really had been reversed it’s also quite possible that the critic could have used superior height, strength, and quickness to thwart Goecke’s attack.
Have a gay friend who, if he's unhappy with a hotel's service, will move an upholstered chair, piss on the rug, and slide the chair back. The same kind of snit, but significantly less personal.
Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who
An actress, upset at Broadway Critic John Simon's review of her performance, dumped a plate of spagetti on his head. After which, Simon supposedly tasted it and said "Needs more Oregeno".
Reverse the Sexes, and you no longer have a humorous anecdote, you have an arrest for assault or a "Cancellation".
I may have the details wrong, because it was the 70s, but in essence it really happened.
If someone smeared me with Dog feces, I would punch them or have them arrested. Depending on their size.
And only a mentally ill Gay guy would do that. How long did he have to carry the dog shit around? Lets see: Find dog poop (hopefully Cold), pick it up, wrap in something, put in pocket, go to critics location, take out of pocket, smear poop.
I am kind of rooting for him - stick some dog poop in an adversary's face and get away with it. "I'm the victim here."
I looked up Hanover and I discovered it's in Germany.
So that's impressive that none of us mentioned you know who.
I agree with Ambrose.
This guy is making the rest of us guys look like stars.
"I smeared dogshit on a guy's face and people are mad at me. Now let me see if I can piss off all women as well."
Nice work, Marco.
Smearing dog-shit on another person is assault. Assault is a sure-fire way to draw attention and "begin a conversation." Such conversations typically end in courtrooms.
Smearing dog-shit on another person is assault
The long and short of it. An individual's sex is not relevant in this context.
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