Writes Josh Hawley in an opinion piece in The Washington Post.
Republicans will only secure the generational victories they crave when they come to terms with this reality: They must persuade a critical mass of working class voters that the GOP truly represents their interests and protects their culture....
Work, family and culture are the touchstones of meaning for working people across the country.... A reborn Republican Party must look very different. It must offer good jobs and good lives.... And it must place working Americans at its heart and take them as they are, rather than treating them as resources to be exploited or engineered away....
From the comments over there: "He doesn't give a rat's behind about working people"/"He's too deeply masculine, and real men don't give a damn"/"No new thinking here. Platitudes about working families but no policies. Protecting our culture - how, exactly, and from what?"/"The GOP is dead because you and your fellow moronic cretins under its tent killed it, you abject loser and coward."
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Does the Turtle look like he cares about folks in flyover country? I don't think so. He's nto what you might call and inspirational leader/ Now DeSantis, Cruz, Cotton, Josh Hawley can reach out to younger people and a broader range.
The Four Trump years resulted in greater percent income gains for the bottom 60% of Americans than eight years of Obama.
That’s the reason Republican Party actually making working people’s lives better.
This is like Hulu reviewing Netflix.
What he said was correct. That some don't like the messenger is beside the point.
The Washington Post comment section is probably mostly CIA, FBI, NSA, and other govt employees, so that's what you should expect for the company newsletter in a company town.
MartyH: "That’s the reason Republican Party actually making working people’s lives better."
Helping working families is the absolute last thing the GOPe wants to do, and the GOPe is in complete control of the republican party and what they want more than anything else is a full return to the Romney/Ryan model.
And for some reason, the entire GOPe believes DeSantis is the answer.
Still waiting for someone to square that circle for us.
The old Democratic Party died in 2016 when Bernie almost toppled Hillary. Ever since that, the center left has literally kneeled to the wishes of every special interest they used to barely tolerate. Buy votes. Buy more votes at any cost.
The center left sold its soul to eject Trump. Except Tulsi Gabbard and Kristen Sinema and mostly Joe Manchin.
The Democratic Party is in a far more unstable position than the Republican Party. Democrats are on extremely thin ice, and will collapse if they pause and reflect for a moment about what they've done. Chop off a teenager's boobs please. Chop off kid's penis. Be a good person today. Be a Democrat.
This Desantis sucks stuff is whacky. He ain’t the bad guy fellers.
I was kinda hoping that commenter over there would throw in at least one "With all due respect..."
If McConnell would retire - it would be a start. But he won't because he's no different than Pelosi or any of the others who die in office.
Meanwhile - the Corrupt D-party won't collapse - it just keeps on winning. It's the mob.
All the hate spewed at Hawley - is leftist hate. It's WaPoo(D) - no one on the "right" has a subscription to WaPo(D).
He's too deeply masculine, and real men don't give a damn
Really? I get the sense whoever wrote that thinks "working people" are the ones that sit in offices with a foozball table around when they get too stressed, and then whine about the construction on the commute home.
Protecting our culture - how, exactly, and from what?
Notice the commenter changes Hawley's words from "protecting YOUR culture" to this dumbass trying to make it about Hawley. Clearly reading comprehension has dropped widely in America, but even WaPo readers should be able to tell the diff.
I'll assist them. Saying I will protect YOUR CULTURE means we respect your right to raise your children as you see fit, worship or not as you see fit, associate with whomever you wish. We aren't the party that says Christians are icky and shouldn't have a say in government, or be able to run their churches as they want. The Democrats and a handful of GOPe combined to pass that law Althouse was so happy to see passed. I was disappointed because it is designed to and will be used to force churches to host gay weddings or lose tax exempt status. I hope the efforts will fail and if need be invalidated by SCOTUS but in the meantime the purpose id to fascistically control people not respect them or their culture.
Josh is on the right side here. We're on the verge of losing the part of our shared culture d4scribed as "live and let live" because of stupid laws like this.
" DeSantis, Cruz, Cotton, Josh Hawley can reach out to younger people and a broader range. "
The Keep-Trump-in-the-headlines/outrage-Cult of Trump will not let that happen.
The corrupt hacks want to torture Trump... and Trump walks into most of it. You will behold the dick-stepper. Alas - we are not allowed to break free.
Hobbits just want to grill.
WaPo readers are, like their region around the Capital City, overwhelmingly Democrat partisans. A Republican writing an op-ed for the WaPo is like writing one for Pravda. The people reading it are diametrically opposed to your views and are unpersuadable.
Jesus hooker you’re the one putting Trump in this story. We didn’t do it.
How many WaPo readers are working class?
Protecting our democracy--brayed loudly and often --really means "Keeping our guys in office and the rest of you out". It's as much a stentorian call for power as a bull elk bugling in rutting season. And frankly, the bull elk is smarter than your average power hungry Dim.
I've never cared for Nancy Pelosi--a grasping, corrupt, self entitled person who would and did forsake country over power--her power that is and getting more of it. But she read the writing on the wall and lead some of the Democrat gerontocracy out to pasture today. It wouldn't hurt McConnell to follow her example on the Republican side.
The old Democratic Party died in 2016 when Bernie almost toppled Hillary. Ever since that, the center left has literally kneeled to the wishes of every special interest they used to barely tolerate. Buy votes. Buy more votes at any cost
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There's a case to make that it traces back to 2000 and gore's loss. If 9/11 hadn't happened, then I suspect that the 2004 dem primary would have been a lot bloodied between the factions. The progressives tolerated the third way dems, but never liked it. After Obama was elected, the left thought that they had figured out a winning coalition that didn't involve working class whites. Trump seemed to be a refutation of that belief, which is why they lost their minds over him.
Did Hawley vote against McConnell?
And I hate this crap about "We need young people with new idea?" Look if you want MAGA without Trump, fine. But the vast majority of the Anti-Trumpers don't like MAGA. They bitch and moan about Trump but their replacement for Trump isn't MAGA, its the same old GOPe Romney/McCain/McConnell/Bush crap.
I don't care about how young, old, middleaged, brown, or purple your candidate is. Its what they believe that's important. Don't like Trump, put up your candidate. And lets talk about the issues. And stop attackng Trump.
I do not understand the classifying of Desantis as GOPe.
He supports much of what I would call the MAGA philosophy, and little of the faux-conservatism of the Lincoln Project types, the Frums, the National Review types, etc.
I suspect what's happening is that the rabid Trumpists - "Trump or nothing!" - want him out of Trump's way.
If we fail to resolve this division, we're in for a decade of wokeism.
""The old Republican Party is dead. It has been wasting away for years now, and this month’s midterm results are the finishing blow....""
Now we just have to evict the old and corrupt GOPe.
This means getting rid of the CoC.
The problem with the Republican party is you have tons of people who don't want to win. And if they do win, they don't want to do anything except help Big Business and cut taxes on the rich.
THe DC Republicans are CONSTANTLY signally that they don't give a damn what their voters want, they just want that sweet MSM LOve. And they want to get together with the Democrats and give them 60 or 70 percent of what the D's want in return for the Democrats helping out big business. That's all McConnell has been doing for 16 years!
Pelosi was the most partisan, divisive, hardcore, Fuck YOu Republicans, Speaker the House has ever had. Impeachment for example was supposed to be the "nuclear option" only used when absolutely neccessary. Except for Nixon (who resigned first) and Clinton no POTUS has gotten close to being impeached in 150 years. Yet Pelosi rammed through 2 useless, timewasting impeachments based on nothing and approved on an almost purely partisan vote. Yet, now that she resigns why Paul Ryan and John Bonehead pop up and wish her well and say what a great Speaker she was!
And what about the Republicans base? Well, these fools constantly complain, but never have the guts or the brains to put "Country before party". If they would just refuse to vote for these DC Clowns in the General OR the primary - they could clear the decks, and elect a new slate of True conseravatives. But of course, that too sophisticated for them. why we gotta beat the D's right now, even if means electing some RINo traitor who will stab us in the back for 20 years!
There is a brief window in which it's possible to have futile internecine political warfare, and that window (two weeks after the midterms) just opened. Let's give it 30 days.
Roe is dead. I don’t know about the GOP.
I’m doing a project in West Virginia and it’s very clear that working class Americans have no more use for Democrats.
"The GOP is dead because you and your fellow moronic cretins under its tent killed it, you abject loser and coward."
Sounds like Althouse's commenters have moved over to the WaPo.
Althouse Blog Commissar (self-appointed): "The corrupt hacks want to torture Trump... and Trump walks into most of it."
This is a most pathetic lie, but I get it. You want to give your democratical allies a little cover.
Did the Tea Party "walk into most of it" when your beloved GOPe leadership worked with obama to have the federal govt target and harrass the Tea Party members?
Did parents objecting to CRT/grooming "walk into it" when they showed up to complain at school board meetings?
As predicted, the GOPe-ers would become indistinguishable from the democraticals and end up supporting the targeting of republicans.
The Republican Party of anti-slavery, anti-diversity, and pro-life with equitable and inclusive treatment is no longer viable, or was it aborted?
Evolution? What's the fitness function, Hawley?
To paraphrase WaPo: the burden of evidence is sequestered in darkness.
On the left there is now
the zany left = drag queens in libraries; mutilate children; teach comic books in college; Republicans are Christians; abortion after birth
The hard left = abolish free speech; abolish capitalism; Republicans are Nazis; abortion up till birth
the bewildered left = Are jokes funny? Is it OK to mention liking The Office? Is Bill Maher OK? Is Elon Musk good or bad? Is Dave Chapelle ... shouldn't I ask? How did it happen that I might lose my job if I say "colorblind", or "all lives matter" or something else, God knows what, or even it might be something I said when I was 14 years old which I thought was private on the internet which turns out to be like the Puritan God - ever watching, everywhere, and eternally vengeful and waiting to get me - how have I ended up like a Kafka hero when I live in Chicago and like deep dish pizza, the Bears and ??the Democrats?? abortion up till 15 weeks
In between the minority vote.
On the right
there is Mitch McConnell/ Kevin McCarthy. Hired guns fighting for what the Republican majority wants. Whatever.
The National Review bunch
Scott Walker and Paul Ryan. Tea Party stalwarts who have fallen in the DC black hole. Should old acquaintance be forgot?; people like them from other states
Trump guys - The policy is Make America Great Again. What is the policy of the rest? He is the one who thought up the policies others have now adopted. And there's more to be done. He is the one recruiting the minorities with his policies. He is the one who might rebuild our manufacturing in time to support our Army AND the black youth left behind in the big Dem cities. He is the one who might fire 87,000 IRS agents. And a crisis is coming which will be a lot like the usual consequences of a war - cold and hunger. We need a mind, not a CheckedBox.
The issue is this: The bewildered Dems will not support Trump - today. But will they still love the zany and the hard Dems tomorrow? as the crisis grows?
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Blogger Enigma said...
The old Democratic Party died in 2016 when Bernie almost toppled Hillary
The old party died in 1984 with the shellacking of Mondale. This gave the Young Guns such as Bill Clinton the opening to align the party to corporate interests. The DLC types also elevated identity divisions in a way to balance progressivism with its new hard-right economic priorities.
"And lets talk about the issues. And stop attackng Trump."
As long as one keeps up the second, one can avoid confronting the first.
Many find this the preferable option.
I think he's right, but are "generational victories" really a good thing? Democrats playing FDR and talking about "fundamentally transforming" the country have caused enough trouble. I'm not sure I want Republicans to do the same thing. I wouldn't mind if they won a few times, though.
It’s reduced to a personality contest. The noble suburban GOP voters who could not tell that the Smiling half black Marxist community activist runnerng as a Democrat was their mortal enemy are stuck in believing in them land. Trump exposed their corrupt sell out game, but all he got was a good riddance reaction for actually doing his job of defending the USA from the CCP/ Dem axis.
It’s reduced to a personality contest. The noble suburban GOP voters who could not tell that the Smiling half black Marxist community activist runnerng as a Democrat was their mortal enemy are stuck in believing in fantasy land. Trump exposed thei Dems’ corrupt sell out game, but all he got was a good riddance reaction for actually doing his job of defending the USA from the CCP/ Dem axis. He was harsh.
There are op-eds that advocate specific policies, and more general thematic op-eds. There's usually not enough room to do both and people recognize that when it comes to politicians they agree with.
I never thought of Josh Hawley as especially masculine, but "Josh Hawley: He's Too Deeply Masculine" would make a great campaign slogan.
The GOP leadership and consultant class want to try and sell white collar libertarianism to the blue collar dems disgusted by the left. It won't work.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Jesus hooker you’re the one putting Trump in this story. We didn’t do it.
They just cannot see themselves.
I am seeing mention of something called Whig v Republican
please edumacate with copious eludication
The problem with the Republican party is you have tons of people who don't want to win. And if they do win, they don't want to do anything except help Big Business and cut taxes on the rich.
It's not that they don't want to win, it's that they don't want those blue collar and red neck unwashed to actually gain influence.
One thing I have figured out is that neither party cares about their base, the ones they say they are "for". They run on issues that appeal to that base, but almost never work to accomplish those promises. It's because they don't really believe in those issues. Probably because their donor class do not want to relinquish the power they would lose if those issues were accomplished.
Trump was different in that he did what he said he would do. It is why he increased his vote total the second time around. The base got what they wanted and wanted more. The establishment in both parties did not, and so they worked to dethrone and marginalize Trump. What both parties want is the gravy train, and they give only enough promises to the base to maintain their individual power.
DeSantis won Florida because he accomplished goals consistent with his base. If he does it as President, he will be successful. Depends on whether the Donor class will support him in his bid to be president. He will either not be funded or he will have to get "moderate". Trump was supported by the base and thus was not beholden to moneyed interests.
"One thing I have figured out is that neither party cares about their base, the ones they say they are "for". They run on issues that appeal to that base, but almost never work to accomplish those promises. It's because they don't really believe in those issues. Probably because their donor class do not want to relinquish the power they would lose if those issues were accomplished."
I think a lot of people understand this. I think a lot fewer want to actually publicly acknowledge it.
Hardly surprising that the readership of the Washington Post is too comfortable in their fantasies about the Democratic Common Man and Scrooge McRepublican Duck to actually be open to what’s happening in politics today.
Wa St Blogger: "DeSantis won Florida because he accomplished goals consistent with his base. If he does it as President, he will be successful. Depends on whether the Donor class will support him in his bid to be president. He will either not be funded or he will have to get "moderate". Trump was supported by the base and thus was not beholden to moneyed interests."
The GOPe/Dem Adjacent Wall Street funders who opposed all of Trump's policies have already kicked over an estimated $225M (it was $200M some weeks ago) to DeSantis, at the same time that DeSantis went all in with the DC/Beltway consultant class, at the sane time that entirety of the sell out GOPe class (the Bushes, Paul Ryan, etc) starting pumping DeSantis up as "the guy".
So, DeSantis has either already sold out the America First economic and foreign affairs policies across the board or he will be the first presidential candidate in history to pull a cool billion or 2 from the globalist/WEF/Davos crew and then screw them over on policy.
Wanna give some odds on where he will come down on those issues as the campaign heats up?
"Democrats will only sustain the generational victories they crave when they come to terms with this reality: They must persuade a critical mass of working class voters that the Democratic Party truly represents their interests and protects their culture....
Work, family and culture are the touchstones of meaning for working people across the country.... A reborn Democratic Party must look very different. It must offer citizens good jobs and protect their freedoms.... And it must place working Americans at its heart and take them as they are, rather than treating them as subjects to be exploited or regulated...."
FIFY,
Donald Trump probably was not the first to notice that the US Chamber of commerce was dictating economic policy to the GOP while the large corporations were giving the bulk of their contributions to the Democrats. However Trump was the first politician to actually set out to do something about it.
bobby: "I do not understand the classifying of Desantis as GOPe.
He supports much of what I would call the MAGA philosophy, and little of the faux-conservatism of the Lincoln Project types, the Frums, the National Review types, etc.
I suspect what's happening is that the rabid Trumpists - "Trump or nothing!" - want him out of Trump's way.
If we fail to resolve this division, we're in for a decade of wokeism."
Lets try this just one more time, very slowly, for the hard of hearing:
For those that claim that DeSantis is not anything like the National Review loser types, nor anything like the GOPe types, and certainly not anything like the globalist/Wall Street/WEF types, then simply explain why it is that ALL those types are supporting and funding DeSantis to the tune thus far of approximately $225M (for a Gov race where he was already far ahead and in no danger? hmmmmmm).
Go ahead. Explain why it is that ALL of those cats that literally despise all the policies Trump pushed are backing DeSantis but yet DeSantis will still deliver the America First policies but without the Trump drama.
Go ahead.
Several of us have been asking this question every single day....and yet none have been so brave as to provide an answer. Perhaps because there are no "good" answers to offer up.
Mr Wibble said...
The GOP leadership and consultant class want to try and sell white collar libertarianism to the blue collar dems disgusted by the left. It won't work.
If your goal is to build a majority coalition party and win elections you are correct and it wont work.
If your goal is to co opt the minority party and make sure it remains a minority party and get lots of money from mega donors though this is a great plan.
When tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars are spent to gain rural piss-ant Congressional seats, YOU KNOW this is all about corruption.
Corruption all the way down.
Just askin': is there any site or organization that tracks and publishes the changing net worth of Senators and Congress critters---AND THEIR FAMILIES--- over the years?
(I know, it would be a ... high-risk occupation.)
Because they are all crooks, or would-be crooks.
NO ONE leaves Congress poorer than when they came in. NOBODY.
I love how Trump so deftly pivoted re his unleashing of harmful injections and medical tyranny in his self-nom speech.
Some shit akin to "Oh..that was a time too horrible to discuss".
Nice.
Meanwhile, I'm still being categorically exckluded from gigs needed to combat inflation in part released by the crazy Covid Cash Cow folks like Evers aren't even done spending.
Perhaps Hawley needs to consider the Covid era cemented into place election processes that make elections about ballot harvesting before issues are apparent to low information voters or ever-Dems, but I repeat myself. That's why Dem candidates lay low. Gotta work within the rules of the times.
Biden/Fetty 2023
Get out the base(ment)!
It isn’t about ‘convincing people’ anymore. You must master gaming the vote…
It was pretty weird to see 800,000 votes cast in PA before the candidates' debate. And in AZ Hobbs refused to debate Lake. That was weird, too.
I'll observe that Hawley has a reputation for being brash.
Libertarians and leftists unite against the new Republican Party. But I repeat myself.
Tina Trent said...
Libertarians and leftists unite against the new Republican Party. But I repeat myself.
11/19/22, 7:10 AM
Don't forget the GOPe, the CoC, and National Review people...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
@WingDynasty
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Nov 17
So the
@GOP
isn't ruthless enough to cheat, brave enough to stop cheating, or smart enough to talk about shit that actually matters.
But hey, the next election is the Most Important One Ever.
Do I have this right..?
The media and GOPe have created a brand problem for Repubs. the lefties and their disciples hate them for slowing the progress of Marxism. The Trump idolators hate them for slowing the progress of Trump.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to tell from the vitriolic excerpt which group the commenter represents.
The old party had a stroke or heart attack in 1972 when McGovern got the nomination, and another in 1994 when the Democrats lost the House, or maybe 2000 when Al Gore couldn't carry a single Southern state, not even his own. Whenever it actually died is hard to say, but it's gone now. Obama certainly didn't appeal to the same base FDR or Truman or even JFK and LBJ did, and his election was the first real victory of the "Coalition of the Ascendant" that was supposed to remove and replace the old White guys, but maybe it took Pelosi tearing up the speech and staging the two impeachments to finally signal that the old Democratic party wasn't around any longer and the new party wasn't playing by the old rules.
Mondale was a lot like Biden, a hack or empty suit who would have done what the party and his advisors wanted, but the party was a lot less radical then. He was not that old in 1984, but he already had an old man's Eeyorish personality. Dukakis? Not really much of anything. A card-carrying ACLU member and suburban liberal, but they also weren't as radical then as now.
Drago: "Go ahead. Explain why it is that ALL of those cats that literally despise all the policies Trump pushed are backing DeSantis...."
Interesting how this bullshit came to the fore on the eve of Trump's announcement. Never mind DeSantis' accomplishments in Florida paving the way for the only real red wave we saw. He must be sacrificed on the altar of Trump.
Try this, Drago, they don't despise Trump's policies. They think Trump cannot be elected. More importantly, they see what DeSantis has done in Florida and like it, as does any thinking conservative.
Strange how the Trump idolators who hate the GOPe adopt its cannibalistic policies to further the interests of Trump. They will happily pave the way for another Democrat mediocrity in the WH post 2024.
The Democrats transformed themselves from the party of the factory floor to the party of the faculty lounge.
Now the Democrats are a coalition of government employees, college professors, criminals, aggrieved minorities, unrepentant socialists, welfare recipients, and Hollywood. They all share a desire to live off the efforts of others and a deep, bitter hatred for the United States of America.
Unfortunately, this parasite coalition is almost a majority.
Conservatives can form a coalition of people who actually work for a living. But they gotta mean it. The country club coalition is not going to work anymore.
So regarding the terrible performance of the Republicans in 2022, Neo has done a bit of homework.
https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/11/18/a-walk-through-presidential-first-term-midterms-election-history-of-the-last-100-years/
Someday, someone will come up with actual, meaningful examples of vote fraud and "cheating". Right now, we are getting squawks from people who are outraged at the way the rules have been changed but have failed to adapt to it. The dems have broadened voter participation with vote by mail. States such as FL and GA have dealt with it successfully.
It has been clear since the 2018 mid-terms that the Dems were vote harvesting. On election night, the GOP was down 15 seats, but a week later they were down over forty seats in the House, and that was pre-COVID. That year we watched Kristen Sinema get elected to the Senate in slow motion. The most shocking thing to me about the 2020 election is that Trump didn't have a vote-harvesting operation.
This year, GOP incumbent governors did quite well in many states (FL, NH, GA) where controversial newcomers did not in other elections. The GOP candidate in NV won the governorship. The GOP won 6 of 9 House seats in AZ, with two pickups.
Bottom line: this election had mixed results, but essentially maintained the status quo. The GOP needs to think hard about how to do better. Hawley might be onto something, but he needs to remember that what we are going for is prosperity, not class warfare. Everyone needs the opportunity to do well, including (maybe especially) members of the Chamber of Commerce.
hombre: "The Trump idolators hate them for slowing the progress of Trump."
No one is a Trump idolator here. We are fans of the policies and perspective.
Show us the candidate that supports those policies AND can continue the populist expansion into working class communities and do it without Trump's issues and we'll be with you.
But dont expect us ever to return to the warmed over McConnell/Romney/Ryan/McCain-ism approach ever again though it does seem to have captured the hearts and minds of so many at Althouse blog.
And yes, it goes without saying a complete overhaul of republican ballot harvesting strategy/tactics/tools has to change in any case....but we all know Ronna Romney is NOT going to do anything along those lines at the RNC.
When you don't have the facts on your side start calling names.
I answered your question about DeSantis and supporters.
Were we talking about "McConnell/Romney/Ryan/McCain-ism"? I don't think so.
"No one is a Trump idolator here. We are fans of the policies and perspective."
Fair enough. Which of De Santis' policies and/or perspective(s) is the problem? I missed that part of your 10:29 post where you implied DeSantis was GOPe.
Interested bystanded: "When you don't have the facts on your side start calling names."
If you are referring to my use of "Trump idolators", feel free to review the relevant comments and specify the facts you think I omitted within the context of the conversation.
Otherwise ....
Drago: "AND can continue the populist expansion into working class communities and do it without Trump's issues and we'll be with you."
"Trump's issues?" Who the hell do you think was voting in Florida on issues addressed by DeSantis and the Florida Legislature?
Trump owns the issues? I rest my case!
He put his finger on trade and immigration reform, the two big bugaboos that drive the donor class wild. And no wonder, that's where the big money is.
hombre: "Trump's issues?" Who the hell do you think was voting in Florida on issues addressed by DeSantis and the Florida Legislature?"
Trick question? Floridians.
Floridians are not Michiganders, or Wisconsonites or Pennsylvanians.
And would you mind directing to me the comments by DeSantis where he took on national economic policy and foreign affairs policies and showed himself capable of standing up to the "elites" that are opposed to America First policies?
Thanks in advance, unless you've so thoroughly "rested your case" you can't get back up again.
hombre: "Fair enough. Which of De Santis' policies and/or perspective(s) is the problem? I missed that part of your 10:29 post where you implied DeSantis was GOPe."
How many times does the question have to be repeated while you guys run around pretending to be confused about what is being asked?
I suggest you look again at my 8:53 and 10:29 comments, but since you probably won't because magical skipover syndrome or something, I'll repost a bit of 10:29 comment and question:
Lets try this just one more time, very slowly, for the hard of hearing:
For those that claim that DeSantis is not anything like the National Review loser types, nor anything like the GOPe types, and certainly not anything like the globalist/Wall Street/WEF types, then simply explain why it is that ALL those types are supporting and funding DeSantis to the tune thus far of approximately $225M (for a Gov race where he was already far ahead and in no danger? hmmmmmm).
Go ahead. Explain why it is that ALL of those cats that literally despise all the policies Trump pushed are backing DeSantis but yet DeSantis will still deliver the America First policies but without the Trump drama.
Go ahead.
So go ahead, explain how that works where all the billionaires and establishment types pour cash into a candidate and that candidate delivers all the policies those billionaires and establishment types positively despise and stand to lose billions over.
Note: I fully expect to have to repost that question every day for the next several years and never receive an answer.
FYI, and I don't have any idea if this "insiders" rumor is true, but I'll hit you with it as a topic starter: DeSantis will be hitting the anti-woke/anti-CRT/pro-family themes even harder moving forward in an attempt to keep people from asking about his, potentially, non-America First/establishment economic and foreign affairs policy positions as time goes on.
Again, just a rumor. Just something to put in your back pocket and then ponder as we watch how events unfold.
Drago: "Go ahead. Explain why it is that ALL of those cats that literally despise all the policies Trump pushed are backing DeSantis...."
hombre: "Interesting how this bullshit came to the fore on the eve of Trump's announcement. Never mind DeSantis' accomplishments in Florida paving the way for the only real red wave we saw. He must be sacrificed on the altar of Trump."
You never even attempted to answer the question. I suspect you won't attempt to answer that question.
And yet there that question remains, hovering over all the non-responses.
I am seeing mention of something called Whig v Republican
The Whig Party disappeared because it couldn't take a stand on slavery. People are thinking that the GOP could disappear in the same way.
Whether or not "generational victories" are a good thing, Mitch McConnell won't be around forever. Generational change. The Republican Party may look very different in ten years.
"So go ahead, explain how that works where all the billionaires and establishment types pour cash into a candidate and that candidate delivers all the policies those billionaires and establishment types positively despise and stand to lose billions over.
Note: I fully expect to have to repost that question every day for the next several years and never receive an answer."
You're not the only one who would like to hear the answer to this question.
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