I'm blogging this before filling in a single blank, and I don't know the answer to that clue, but I'm interested because the New Yorker is acting like this is a known concept — "Owning the ___ (conservative strategy of performatively inflaming Democratic outrage)" — and because "performative" is a word I've been following.
Oh, I guess it's "owning the left." No. I was going to complain about calling the Democratic Party "the left." But it's "owning the libs."
Anyway, what interests me is giving the marquee position to a clue with that buzzword: "performatively inflaming Democratic outrage."
Now, "performatively inflaming" isn't a common phrase. It has only come up once on the internet (as I write this post)...
Do you like the association of political emotion with fire?
It makes me think of this strange image, blogged yesterday:
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Performatively inflamed libs make me think of these images.
When Democrats get something wrong, the story always "Republicans Pounce" (or "Seize" or "Weaponize").
Now when a Democrat gets something wrong and Republicans point it out and feel proud about their win, it's "inflaming Democratic outrage"?
Of course it's biased, but it also doesn't make any sense. I don't like the whole "owning" or "pwning" idea. It's too gloating. Too much like defining people as "winners" and "losers."
But "owning" or "pwning" means the discussion is temporarily over. It means you've scored a point and the other side can only seethe for a while.
If they are outraged or inflamed, rather than temporarily silenced it could get ugly, but that's not the point of a good "owning" and not the usual result either.
I guess the Times can't admit that they ever get "owned" or lose, so they apply the word to failed or faulty attempts at provocation -- to "self owns," rather than true "owns."
Sounds wrong. "Owning the libs" means, defeating them soundly, AFAIK.
I was not beaten. I self-flagellated.
I was not burned. I self-immolated.
I did not fail. I self-aborted by Choice. You lose.
Owning the Pounce?
Owning the libs is wrong simply because there is nothing 'liberal' about them.
They are leftists. Totalitarian leftists.
As the Progressives keep on poking the angry bear.....
The Left is all that remains of the Democrat Party.
If the current version of the Democrat Party is not Leftist, pray tell the more accurate description.
The best "owning of the libs" is the so called "self own". It's like extasy when that happens, for both sides.
Here is an example Link to Althouse blog post
That's a lot of hifalutin words for a puzzle clue. Just say "trolling".
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Owning the flagellum.
"I was going to complain about calling the Democratic Party "the left.""
OK, "the left" encompasses more than Dems. But what part of them is not "left"? I understand the some nice liberal women might not like being associated with "the left," or God forbid, voting for actual leftists, in order to maintain their self-regard, but what have Dems done recently to sustain their illusions?
MikeR: "Sounds wrong. "Owning the libs" means, defeating them soundly, AFAIK."
Right. Even when they are trying to channel something conservative, they are still off. Progs have a hard time understanding the Other. Not that they feel any need to try.
"this kind of fire can only be eradicated with MORE FIRE"
Performative messaging? It's 2022 - don't read the words, look at the pictures. Imagine the emoji.
I recognized it immediately as "owning the libs." Owning the libs/owning the cons (or "powning") is common on twitter. My question is, what does it say about the New York Times crossword that they had the word "libs" and decided that this would be the clue?
'... I was going to complain about calling the Democratic Party "the left." But it's "owning the libs.'
Funny. "The left" seems appropriate unless you were thinking of Democrats as "the far left." Rush Limbaugh and conventional Repub "wisdom" notwithstanding, most Democrats and their lefty consorts are not liberals in any classical sense.
Even the crossword puzzle has been politicized?
I think the left want to burn Trump at the Stake.
There’s also nothing very democratic about them. What Hillary and Obama did to thwart the Will of the people by weaponizing FBI, Justice and CIA to “own” Trump with Russia collusion hoax was as Stasi as it gets. Cynical Dems don’t care.
Poking the balloon bear, Wendy. You people's threats of violent repercussion precipitated by progressives oppression of deplorables is always coming soon, we really mean it this time, you'll be sorry.
How do I know you so well? I think of a man and take away reason and accountability.
My own experience is that the "owning" trope began as jock trash-talk, with clear racial overtones.
One reason I don't pay much attention to jocks.
Meade said...
"There’s also nothing very democratic about them."
"As the select committee has demonstrated, the Trump campaign knew these claims of voter fraud were false, yet they continued to barrage small dollar donors with emails, encouraging them to donate to something called an Official Election Defense Fund,"
Wonder how much $ Meade contributed. Did you put your money where your mouth is Meade? And where do you think it went.
"For my money, though, the most damning video played today was this short revelation about the Trump Official Election Defense Fund, which many hard-working Americans contributed to and which turns out not to be a thing. Having worked so hard to create a more acceptable substitute reality for his fans, Trump followed his instincts: He monetized it, conning them into contributing to what amounted to a Super PAC slush fund rather than a legal fund. “Not only was there the Big Lie, there was the Big Ripoff,” said Democrat Zoe Lofgren. Somewhere Trump University “graduates” are nodding wearily. "
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“Owning” is not about winning arguments, nor is it about persuading people to your side. It’s about identifying with a side and making yourself feel good. It’s an impotent gesture of power.
I'd rather own something more useful.
One of the best scenes in the old "Malcom in the Middle" show came when Malcom's dad was having an stupid argument with the black father of one of his son's friends.
In an entirely different (and innocuous context) than what it sounded like, Malcom's dad shouted, "I'll own you!!"
The changing expressions on both their faces, as they digested the comment's possible meanings, were priceless.
I think the libs do perfectly well owning themselves.
Notice the little devil horns- apropos, eh?
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/399561.php#399561
It is, at best, a tactic. Not a strategy.
"As the select committee has demonstrated, the Trump campaign knew these claims of voter fraud were false, yet they continued to barrage small dollar donors with emails, encouraging them to donate to something called an Official Election Defense Fund,"
I didn't donate but I know the election was a fraud. You are far too left to convince anyone.
Performative, misinformation, words that make my skin crawl. Reminding me of how dense the journalists I have known.
"Rush Limbaugh and conventional Repub "wisdom" notwithstanding, most Democrats and their lefty consorts are not liberals in any classical sense."
Did you ever listen to Rush? Do you know of any among even the "conventional" Republicans who believe that Democrats are classical Liberals in any sense?
I believe that Rush may have been the most significant voice in America working tirelessly to convince Americans that, despite what the Dems and the MSM want you to believe, the Dems (and the "Libs") were and are stone leftists at heart.
As always, when a Repub screws up, that's the story. When a Dem screws up, it's the Repub reaction that's the story.
"As the select committee has demonstrated,..."
LOL
We'll just add this latest claimed "demonstration" to the "proven" russian collusion hoax and the "verified" hoax Hillary dossier.
Good luck with that! See you in November!
9 Across is "Tubbs." Does that help?
Cannot believe you did not know "Owning the libs"
It's also become a meme to mock Boomercons who do stupid things with Brandon jokes etc.
@ Mutaman,
As the select committee has demonstrated, the Trump campaign knew these claims of voter fraud were false,
According to the statements that the left media (MSNBC, Rolling Stone, etc.) quoted from Trump's inner circle, they claim that they believed there was no provable fraud but Trump ignored their advice, bringing up claim after claim. This does not sound like a person who knew there was no fraud but pushed it anyway.
Now, I ask you, does the fact that the FBI, and Hillary and other high government officials KNEW that the Russian collusion was a lie but pursued the impeachment of a sitting president give you pause at all? You try to get us to admit that Trump pushed a lie to affect the control of the White House. Are you willing to admit that the Obama Administration, the Hillary campaign, and the FBI colluded to do that very thing? Throw us a bone, Mutaman.
Owning the libs?
Hard line leftists have thought themselves to be 'owning' the people they call far-right for years. Project much?
Contemporary American conservatism is in a state of utter degeneracy. There was a time when being conservative was practically synonymous with being mature, adult-minded, level-headed, even-tempered. Today, conservative thinking occasionally achieves the sophomoric but is most often careening from the juvenile to the infantile.
One reason for this is that "conservatism" has become hopelessly entangled with "Republican Party politics." A second, and more fundamental, reason is that contemporary American conservatism is itself a discordant mix of cultural traditionalism and right-libertarian economics. Pursuing the latter makes pursuing the former impossible. Capitalism is relentlessly revolutionary, the antithesis of conservative. To put it another way, there is nothing conservative about classical liberalism.
The trend globally since the 1980s has been towards liberalization-of global trade, financial markets, labor markets, capital markets, etc. It was the consequence of these trends that helped fuel the political fire for Brexit and Trump's 2016 electoral victory. That fire has since diminished and the right has since returned to blaming Cold War bogeymen like Marx, Gramsci, and Marcuse. But in fact, the primary divide in America is not ideological, racial, sexual, or ethnic. It is socioeconomic. The candidate most hated by the establishment after Donald Trump was Bernie Sanders.
"According to the statements that the left media (MSNBC, Rolling Stone, etc.) quoted from Trump's inner circle,"
Well actually it was according to testimony given under oath.
Blogger Michael K said...
"I didn't donate but I know the election was a fraud."
He didn't donate- he avoided trump and just sent a check straight to Guilfoyle.
https://www.businessinsider.com/kimberly-guilfoyle-was-paid-60000-to-introduce-donald-trump-jr-on-jan-6-2022-6
That fire has since diminished and the right has since returned to blaming Cold War bogeymen like Marx, Gramsci, and Marcuse.
I hesitate to sound homophobic but how much of this is gaydom nonsense?
Uh oh! Looks like there is trouble in the Mutaman/gadfly/readering/Left Bank "The Walls Are Closing In" world:
John Bresnahan@bresreports
"NEW - @BennieGThompson says the Jan. 6 select cmte will NOT make any criminal referral to the Justice Department on Trump or anyone else"
5:37 PM · Jun 13, 2022
Civil War on the Thompson Left vs the Cheney/Schiffty/Lauria Stalinist Left.
From gadfly's favorite source, CNN (sorry Joy Reid, you are only gadfly's 2nd favorite source):
"Rep. Liz Cheney, who serves as vice chair of the committee, released a statement contradicting the chairman’s comments. “The January 6th Select Committee has not issued a conclusion regarding potential criminal referrals. We will announce a decision on that at an appropriate time,” the Wyoming Republican tweeted.
The comment marked a rare public break between the two leaders of the committee."
Yes, you read that correctly.
Liz Cheney (D-Pelosi's Lap) is now securely positioned to the far left of lefty Thompson.
"Unexpectedly"
Yes we seem to listing toward food shortages if not famine just as bernies patrin saint joe stalin wamted
@Mutaman,
Well actually it was according to testimony given under oath.
Nothing I said was contradicted by your comment above. I referenced the sources you might have read to prove my point. Yes, they quoted testimony, that only enhances the the evidence against your earlier contention.
You have nothing that proves that Trump believed there was no fraud. The evidence presented actually supports the opposite claim.
So three strikes:
1. You can't understand your own evidence.
2. you think you have made a point against me by restating my own evidence
3. You never rose to the challenge given regarding proven evidence that your heroes DID what you CLAIM Trump did.
You have now effectively destroyed any chance at being a credible contributor to this issue. Thanks for playing. Jay will not be providing parting gifts.
Capitalism is everywhere. There isn't any getting around it in one form or another. Yes, it changes things and undercuts tradition, but the alternative is stagnation, decline, and even greater social conflict.
"My own experience is that the "owning" trope began as jock trash-talk, with clear racial overtones."
"Clear"
Checked Urban Dictionary. Gave up after five pages of definitions when I couldn't find a trace of "clear racial overtones."
Dingbat overtones here.
Talk of famine is… interesting. During the pandemic up to and including now- there are free meals( yummy ones) given out to anyone who shows up and last yr boxes upon boxes of valuable foodstuffs. Frozen chicken, veggies, milk. So much stuff and some people took more than their share. Filled their trucks!! Hopefully, they would redistribute.
Idk why? People were getting paid to stay home, there was a PPP and other programs. I feel like the government was playing w/us. Like we would a dog. Coaxing, teasing and rewarding w/food. We do that w/our heifers in the pasture (w/a bucket of grain to make sure they come when called).
So, now it looks like food is/is going to be scarce. And the training will come in handy. That people will automatically turn to the government for help. Yet, I’m praying we turn to e/other. That we put up goods to be bartered w/and make our community circles smaller.
Maybe it’s a country thing. Idk, but it feels ominous.
Brian and/or, I described my experience--my first memory of the usage was in that context: B/black athletes (and NPCs) using it as part of the rhetorical stew. You know, undereducated gazillionaires as slaves of corporate sport, that sort of thing?
Maybe Urban Dictionary should start paying attention.
Dingbat Overtones would make a good name for a cover band.
Another usage I'm familiar with is in the phrase "Owning your actions/opinions/emotions etc."
I'm no urban dictionary, but that just seems like a shorter version of "Owning up to" something, which has an old-fashioned sound to me now.
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