Says a highly rated comment on the Washington Post editorial "Supreme Court justices should be able to feel safe at home." The Editorial Board comes out in favor of a Senate bill that would authorize protection of the Supreme Court Justice's family.
June 12, 2022
"Counterpoint: If they're that afraid, they can resign for their safety. Since when is the safety of Brett Kavanaugh more important than..."
"... the lives of teachers and their students? The lives of women? People in Buffalo who simply went to the grocery store? People who go to church? How many people feel unsafe because of transphobic laws? Why should the Supreme Court feel safer than the general public?
Why has the Editorial Board decided the justices are entitled to some sort of elitist protection? They can live the same way they have decided the rest of us should live."
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Now do Congress. Take down the fences protecting them. Take away THEIR security. Why is their safety more important than Brett Kavenaughs??
I would encourage the SCOTUS judges, and any of their adult spouses, staff, relatives, etc, to obtain training and to equip themselves with hardware appropriate to their mission.
https://www.taurususa.com/revolvers/taurus-judge/taurus-judge-r-45-colt-410-ga-stainless-steel-3-00-in
That someone could hold that opinion, and express it in public, is evidence that they are not, in fact, in any danger from anyone.
Notice how the lefties/democraticals/NeverTrump-FakeCons are so very very very adament that your kids really arent your kids, their "safety" requires conservatives be disarmed and censored, and conservative ideas and words are literal "violence" against them which justifies any physically violent action on their part.
Gee, its almost as if these lefties et al are actual Maoist fascists or something.
So this commenter won’t object to the Supremes turning the basement of the Court into a pistol range and swapping those flimsy black robes for the full Kevlar?
What a childish whinge of an argument.
I cancelled my subscription to Pravda on the Potomac because of the audience they cater too - DC woke crazies. You literally could not make a comment against the insanity of the articles there without being suspended - note the worst was calling out race grifters like Crump for exactly what they are.
WAPO needs to fire about 75% of its staff and start over.
It’s not elitist to believe that ALL OF US deserve peace and privacy at home. Protesting at a private residence should be illegal everywhere. You know, the reasonable “time and place” restrictions Liberals always go on about like when they inevitably say the bit about yelling fire etc. The intentional infliction of fear just reveals how sociopathic the woke are. It is quite striking.
Is that comment an admission that all the threats are from the left?
Elitist chuck Schumer(D) ordered the hit. I would never define the Supreme Court as elitist.
"... the lives of teachers and their students? The lives of women? People in Buffalo who simply went to the grocery store? People who go to church? How many people feel unsafe because of transphobic laws?"
If you feel that unsafe in the United States there is an entire PLANET of other countries you can move to.
See how dumb that sounds?
Democrats need to understand that we're not going to base our public policy, Constitution and Bill of Rights on the crazed rantings of the hysterical among us. We're simply not going to allow these people to terrorize us in order to get their way politically. That's TERRORISM. And we put people to death for terrorism.
Fair enough WaPo readers, now let’s get rid of the Capitol police and demand the resignation of those on the Jan 6th committee.
Actually, that highly rated comment is also a good argument against gun control legislation too.
And there you have the voice of the Left today. Any questions?
By the way, to answer one of his questions (and yes, I'm sure it's a he. Or at least a Zir.): "How many people feel unsafe because of transphobic laws?" My answer: Approximately 200. Maybe 289. But don't worry, the 340,000,000 other Americans will tread on eggshells so as not to disturb their auras.
No sane person advocates against safety and for violence. One never knows wher it will stop. It has been all too common in recent times that we are seeing liberals ignoring this when the target is someone they disagree with. In fact they are quietly encouraging this to sway decisions in violation of law and decency. You either live within the system or you do not. Mark my word if a conservative justice is harmed things will go rapidly down hill from there.
WaPo still opposes the "heckler's veto", maybe soon to be renamed the "assassin's veto."
WaPo's readers largely in favor.
Can we ASSUME, that If
a) the supreme court had AFFIRMED Child Murder, and
b) right wingers were protesting... That
c) That Commenter would be singer a different tune?
The same terribly flawed logic argues that we should not have the Secret Service to protect anyone else serving in the federal government.
When we want somebody to fill a role in the federal government, and that role exposes them to heightened danger, the federal government should provide some protection against that danger. For a lot of employees, that's a security briefing and workplace security. For very senior roles -- like the President, VP and Supreme Court -- that should include a protective detail. When there are specific, credible threats, security should be stepped up.
The argument made by that comment is quite blinkered in a partisan way. It ignores that there is elevated risk for some people specifically because of the job they do for the country.
Temujin @ 8:55: “… so as not to disturb their auras.”
Perfect.
This person would be fine with living in a country where justices could be forced to resign out of fear for their safety? I wonder if they also think that the most dangerous, most government-threatening protesters (1/6) are on the "right".
Well how big of them. Doing the common sense, decent thing in lieu of the usual, antagonistic, lefty nitwit take shouldn’t require a struggle.
The things you could say about Kavanaugh that could get you in big trouble, if you say it about Sotomayor, for example.
By the way, is there a reason why my iPhone autocorrect won’t help me when typing Kavanaugh’s name? Indeed it will redline it as written incorrectly when it is not.
You might be tempted to point out the incivility embodied in this WaPo comment but that would be bullshit.
So this commenter won’t object to the Supremes turning the basement of the Court into a pistol range ?
Speaking only for myself, I say, "Why not?" Or a bowling alley, or a wide-screen TV mini-theater, or a Peloton machine or put in a ping-pong table ...
What would be the problem with the judges deciding to put recreational gear in the basement? And if the recreation, Peleton or a pistol range, has benefits beside recreation alone, all the better.
I agree.....all judicial decisions should be now made by mobs holding pitchforks and torches.
"Confiscate our guns or we'll shoot you."
Sounds just like the asshole who called the cops on himself outside Kavanaugh's house. Is this a new type of mental illness spreading among leftists?
Nuke it from orbit. 1MT.
gz North of the WH. I think the sickness extends deeper into Maryland
What’s notable about the Post editorial is that it says nothing at all about the federal law prohibiting protests outside of the residences of judges and justices or the inexplicable refusal of the DOJ to enforce that law gains the pro-abortion protestors. The Post just ignores the law and the administration’s policy of non-enforcement.
Sounds like the WaPoo readers support insurrection and criminals.
"If they're that afraid, they can resign for their safety. Since when is the safety of Brett Kavanaugh more important than..."
Just in case anyone still thought leftists shared the same culture, cared about the same rules, valued the system, opposed violence to achieve political ends, could set aside partisanship to focus on a greater common good.
They want the violence. They think it's justified. Kavanaugh and SCOTUS and the system be damned.
I'm pleased Althouse takes note. But will the Althouses of America act on it?
Once again, the right winger Trump supporters now threatening the supreme court...
Drago serious question. Do you believe/understand that there is a significant segment of the population that thinks Trump is a danger to our democracy but are not leftists? Is every so-called RINO a Democratical in your opinion? One can only be a true Republican if they agree with you on every issue?? Don't you understand there is a continuum of political views in this country (as a recent graph Ann posted a few weeks ago illustrates), and not simply two boxes in which everyone neatly falls.
I hesitate engaging with you because you seem unable to avoid ad hominin attacks against those you disagree with.
Is it wrong to view progressives as psychopaths?
Translation: Only those public officials with whom I agree should have security. Those with whom I disagree should be subject to terrorist threats to pressure them to support the positions with which I agree.
The saddest part is not that such a heinous comment appears but that it is the highest rated comment.
WaPo commenters are the most deluded and unbalanced group of people I have ever encountered, in person, in print, or on-line.
WHY would people continue to read such a HATEFUL - to the point of violent - and dishonest publication like the Washington Post?
I look at the headlines of that webpage every day and am disgusted enough at the obvious propaganda without actually going on to read that weaponized slop. Why expose yourself to that?
I doubt that the foolish commenter and his/her/their supporters, who fail to understand the importance of institutions to a civilization, would feel the same about an armed assassin headed for Kagan, Sotomayor, or Jackson.
Fee, Fie, Foe, Fum. I smell the blood of a nitwit.
Democracy dies in dimwittedness.
It seems as though it's part of the left's mantra that we have to learn to live with dangerous neighborhoods and no personal safety, just the price we pay for "restorative justice". Since it's the left's policies that have lead, in large part, to the danger, I guess it's not surprising they would now try and weaponize it against political enemies.
Do you believe/understand that there is a significant segment of the population that thinks Trump is a danger to our democracy but are not leftists?
No. Next question. People like you live in a fantasy world where destroying the "fossil fuel" industry will result in electric cars and trucks with plentiful electricity to charge them. While thinking that a wonderful world of Utopia will result, you people make no effort at building the infrastructure to support it. Where are the nuclear power plants to generate the electricity ? You also think creating huge amounts of "money" will be OK with no risk of inflation.
The Unabomber was captured 26 years ago after being active for 17 years. He was a demented genius / math prodigy. Imagine the next Kaczynski with access to drones, smart phones, RC toys and self-driving vehicles, and an absolutely incompetent and politiczed FBI. I'm sorry, it's just a matter of time before something truly awful happens. The idiot readers of WaPo who think its Ok to declare open season on politicians and institutions they don't like are helping to encourage the next Kaczynski/James Hodgkinson. They are absolutely disgusting.
"Since when is the safety of Brett Kavanaugh more important than..."
"... the lives of teachers and their students?"
Counterpoint? Come on Althouse, it's a strawman argument. You are smarter than that.
A lot of jealous people out there. And they continue to vote for the same democrats that make their cities a hell hole.
Michael K - I support nuclear power and believe there is a direct correlation between money supply and inflation. More money means more spending. More spending means more demand, which means less supply, which means higher prices. Did I get that right? So I guess that proves you are wrong about "people like me" People like you have little ability to judge others as individuals.
I've known a few people who absolutely hated the idea of armed security in schools. EXCEPT, very vehemently, schools where the President's and Senators and Representatives kids went.
"Of COURSE their kids should to go schools with armed guards, their parents are IMPORTANT!"
I've known a few people who absolutely hated the idea of armed security in schools. EXCEPT, very vehemently, schools where the President's and Senators and Representatives kids went.
"Of COURSE their kids should to go schools with armed guards, their parents are IMPORTANT!"
I've known a few people who absolutely hated the idea of armed security in schools. EXCEPT, very vehemently, schools where the President's and Senators and Representatives kids went.
"Of COURSE their kids should to go schools with armed guards, their parents are IMPORTANT!"
I've known a few people who absolutely hated the idea of armed security in schools. EXCEPT, very vehemently, schools where the President's and Senators and Representatives kids went.
"Of COURSE their kids should to go schools with armed guards, their parents are IMPORTANT!"
why don't so interested Justices claim/assert their constitutional right to raise/attract followers to own militias based on 2A?
who will gainsay their actions?
welcome Warlords.
’More spending means more demand, which means less supply…’
A swing and a miss!
“Elitist chuck Schumer(D) ordered the hit. I would never define the Supreme Court as elitist.”
Keep in mind here that if one of the Republican Justices is assassinated, Schumer essentially gets to pick their replacement. That probably ends in about six months, so suspicious people are probably not surprised at him pushing assassination.
Michael K:
Supply and demand, certainly. Also, labor and environmental arbitrage, excess credit and debt emissions, and market distortions typically forced by single/central/monopolistic solutions.
“ What’s notable about the Post editorial is that it says nothing at all about the federal law prohibiting protests outside of the residences of judges and justices or the inexplicable refusal of the DOJ to enforce that law gains the pro-abortion protestors. The Post just ignores the law and the administration’s policy of non-enforcement.”
What a lot of people ignore at their peril is that the assassination of a Justice could very well be the action that causes the resistance to go kinetic, and the gun safes across the country be unlocked. We have Schumer advocating for assassination of wayward Justices, FJB refusing to enforce laws against protesting in front of their houses, and Pelosi refusing to allow a vote on a bill increasing their protection. They are essentially green lighting intimidating, if not killing, Supreme Court Justices. Their sanctity is so essential to our form of government, that I don’t think that it will be pretty if something happens to one of the Justices.
The lives of teachers and students are at greatest risk from social contagion, blades, blunt force, chemicals, then guns, in that order.
The lives of women are at greatest risk through immigration reform, in socially liberal climates, and the wicked solution a.k.a. planned parent/hood to keep women appointed, available, and taxable.
The transphobic laws are found in political congruence ("="). The greatest risk to trans/homosexuals is from other trans/homosexuals in bad drug deals, from people of color gang rapes... rape-rapes, pathogenic transmission through the back... black hole... whore h/t NAACP, and trans/bisexuals socially excluded from trans/homosexual games, who have taken a measure of the community pulse.
Counterpoint: If they're that afraid, they can resign for their safety. Since when is the safety of Brett Kavanaugh more important than the lives of teachers and their students?
In most States, if someone did to a teacher or fellow students what the left is doing to Kavanaugh and ACB, they'd, quite properly, be arrested.
So this is at best a non-sequitur
The lives of women?
How about the lives of unborn babies? Is it perfectly right to murder any politician / judge who supports abortion, on the grounds that their position means they're not entitled to protection from threats?
People in Buffalo who simply went to the grocery store?
So, what this person is saying, and what the up voters are saying, is that they believe they are in sole obsession of the One True Way to "protect" people, and that they have the right to murder any heathens or heretics who disagree with their religious belief.
People who go to church?
Gee, you mean like the people going to ACB's church? no, you want to expose them to threats and violence
How many people feel unsafe because of transphobic laws?
How many people feel unsafe, and are actually made unsafe, by "transphillic" laws that let men into women's bathrooms, locker rooms, shelters, and prisons?
Oh, those people don't matter?
Why should the Supreme Court feel safer than the general public?
They shouldn't.
Neither should President Biden, Nancy Pelosi, or any Democrat members of the House or Senate.
Which means you need to stop shining about how "J6" threatened those people, because we've just established that they're not the least bit more important than all the ordinary citizens threatened by the George Floyd / BLM riots
Why has the Editorial Board decided the justices are entitled to some sort of elitist protection? They can live the same way they have decided the rest of us should live.
If your'e on a jury, it's against the law for someone to come to your house and try to intimidate you to rule a certain way.
Why are you trying to deny Supreme Court Justices the same protection that every juror is entitled to?
Says a highly rated comment on the Washington Post editorial "Supreme Court justices should be able to feel safe at home." The Editorial Board comes out in favor of a Senate bill that would authorize protection of the Supreme Court Justice's family.
I find it amazing that people who eagerly disarm themselves are nevertheless desperate to have a civil war, and a society where violent intimidation is accepted and appropriate?
Are they really just so stupid that they think it won't ever rebound on them?
it's like "being on the Left" is a brain disorder. Garland is not on SCOTUS because Democrats changed the rules, and the GOP enforced the new rules. With all the screaming about that, is it truly the case that they just couldn't figure out that ideas have consequences?
Bruce Hayden said...
What a lot of people ignore at their peril is that the assassination of a Justice could very well be the action that causes the resistance to go kinetic, and the gun safes across the country be unlocked.
I will confess I'm surprised that no one has yet done a drive-by shooting of the protesters in front of one of the Justices' home.
By which I mean pull up at the end of the street with someone in the back seat with a rifle, shoot off a magazine into the crowd, and drive away. Shooting down the street means no risk of the bullets going into the house, and to use the language of the Left, anyone outside, including any cops who aren't arresting people, is "complicate" in the threat.
My guess is that the belief that we're going to win in November, and that the intimidation won't work, are the only thing keeping the bloodshed at bay
jim5301: "Drago serious question. Do you believe/understand that there is a significant segment of the population that thinks Trump is a danger to our democracy but are not leftists?"
(Morgan Freeman Narrator Voice): Lefty jim5301 thinks his side, the side that constructed serial hoaxes and weaponized the entire national security apparatus and national law enforcement entities against domestic political opponents and are currently running a full blown Soviet show trial while simultaneously undermining every individual right in the Bill of Rights, are the protectors of Democracy...........spoiler: They're not.
Bruce Hayden said...
Keep in mind here that if one of the Republican Justices is assassinated, Schumer essentially gets to pick their replacement.
If one of the Republican Justices is assassinated, there's more than 10 Dem Senators who would be replaced with a Republican Senator after their assassination.
There's no way the Dems are going to win that kind of tit-for-tat game, other than by not starting it
Do you believe/understand that there is a significant segment of the population that thinks Trump is a danger to our democracy but are not leftists?
Okay, so people, some of whom may not be leftists, think Trump endangers democracy, so let’s not protect supreme court justices from crazed mobs. Got it.
These people are insane.
The Justices need protection from these crazies.
(Just ask yourself whether this loon would say the same were the Justice in question Sotomayor.)
So I guess that proves you are wrong about "people like me" People like you have little ability to judge others as individuals.
You didn't mention "fossil fuels" and the climate scam so I assume you are on board with that. How long would it take to build enough nuclear power plants to supply the electricity that would replace oil? 50 years ? California is now closing the last one they have.
The numbers don't add up. We are headed for a crash led by fools who think wishing makes it so.
Careful what you wish for, leftists.
You just might get it.
Because all assassinations are murders, but not all murders are assassinations?
Assassination is the use of murder to change a political outcome, a way to impeach without due process or even a trial. Or at least the credible threat of this.
It reminds me of Bolsheviks working the actions of their rifles while sitting in the gallery of the pre-Soviet legislature: just an aid to help them make wise decisions, of course.
Why am I so certain that comment was written by a woman?
jim5301:
"Drago serious question. Do you believe/understand that there is a significant segment of the population that thinks Trump is a danger to our democracy but are not leftists?"
Anyone who believes that is delusional.
Trump was the President MOST respectful of the proper bounds on Presidential action since the end of the Cold War.
During Covid, President Trump, rather than trying to rule by "emergency" measure, told the Governors of the 50 States to each make their own choices, with the knowledge that the Federal Gov't would back them up.
NY claimed they didn't have enough hospital beds, so Trump sent them the USS Mercy. He didn't force them to use it, and Cuomo decided to murder thousands of elderly by sending them back to nursing homes while they were still contagious with Covid, rather than "give Trump a win" by using the USS Mercy, but Trump did his part, then stopped.
The same was true at pretty much every level. He used his powers to clear away problems, NOT to force solutions.
So if you see Trump as an "authoritarian", a "dictator", or a "threat to democracy" (when he was the one fighting for honest elections, which are the base requirement for any democracy), you are a delusional nut, or a dishonest partisan hack.
In my Bible reading yesterday, I came across Psalm 25:19, "Consider how many are my foes, and with what violent hatred they hate me." It made me think of Kavanaugh, Barrett, and the other conservatives on the court. I doubt they signed up for constant, credible death threats toward themselves, their spouses and children. The callous response from this WaPo commenter and from the White House itself has been appalling.
They are not going to like the new rules they are making when both sides start playing by the same rules. They are obviously unfamiliar with A Man For All Seasons. Where would they hide, the laws all being flat?
jim5301 said...
"I hesitate engaging with you because you seem unable to avoid ad hominin attacks against those you disagree with."
It's not that he disagrees with you. It's just that you are a danger to our Democracy. So don't take it personal, OK?
"More money means more spending. More spending means more demand, which means less supply, which means higher prices. Did I get that right?"
Well, no, actually. That explanation is what physicists call "Not even wrong".
Look. Suppose eggs cost a dollar a dozen, and you have a dollar, and you go to the store. So, you can buy a dozen eggs, right? Wrong. Because I printed $50 dollars, and bought all the chickens for my BBQ, so there are no eggs. For your lousy dollar, I might sell you a feather or two. What made you think you could buy eggs with dollars? Eggs are for printers, silly human.
The larger point being, that printed money distorts market signals, as it erodes saved wealth.
I'm kind of surprised to learn the Supremes don't already have Secret Service protection. how did the Notorious RGB live to such a ripe old age without right wing killers swarming her house, every waking moment?
These people should not be whining about J6 if they don't care about the safety of one of the other branches of government. Implicitly condoning such violence also condones violence against them.
jim5301 said...
Michael K - I support nuclear power and believe there is a direct correlation between money supply and inflation. More money means more spending. More spending means more demand, which means less supply, which means higher prices. Did I get that right?
No, you got it half right and half completely wrong.
More demand does not equal less supply. That is so stupid it hurts. As demand goes up more supply will be created.
More regulations have caused less supply. The Biden regime has placed numerous regulatory hurdles on shipping, energy production, and numerous other regulatory moves like shutting down one of the largest baby formula factories in the country.
Greg The Class Traitor said...
Bruce Hayden said...
Keep in mind here that if one of the Republican Justices is assassinated, Schumer essentially gets to pick their replacement.
If one of the Republican Justices is assassinated, there's more than 10 Dem Senators who would be replaced with a Republican Senator after their assassination.
There's no way the Dems are going to win that kind of tit-for-tat game, other than by not starting it
I think you are underestimating the mendacity and the desperation of the Regime. They know they cannot maintain power through stealing elections. They know that there will be no opportunity to mail in millions of ballots again without getting caught. They are going to lose by so much this time that the even the 20 million votes they mailed in for Biden will not be enough this time.
They know they are finished unless their BLM/Antifa mobs can start a real insurrection and they can somehow cow the Citizens of the United States.
They are cornered. There is no way that they can escape once their crimes are placed before the American people.
The pendulum is going to swing back towards Law and Order in a big way and corruption in DC is going to be targeted hard.
They have a sense of impending doom and their desperation is showing.
If the SC justices are fair game, then the editors of the Post are too, and they know it.
They're looking out for number 1.
I wonder if out "betters" actually believe the stuff they put out, or if there's some contest to see who can pull off the biggest whopper.
More judge's homes have been politically bombed, and more judges politically assassinated, than all the ACLU scum and all their commie peers.
Tells you something. Angela Davis murdered a judge. She's a wealthy tenured professor at a taxpayers funded university. She also supported Stalin. Yeah, that Stalin.
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