"... who had opened fire on students inside the school, according to two officials briefed on the situation."
Also: "[P]olice leaders struggled to answer questions about the horrific hour it took to halt a gunman who opened fire on students and teachers inside Robb Elementary School. No school police officer confronted the gunman before he went into the school, a state police spokesman said...."
ADDED: If the police don't arrive and save us from violence, how can this event support the argument for restricting guns? This is the very situation that makes the most responsible people want to own guns. It reminds me of the summer of 2020, when there were riots, and the police stood down.
AND:
I've always remembered this passage from Justice Breyer's dissenting opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller:
Insofar as the Framers focused at all on the tiny fraction of the population living in large cities, they would have been aware that these city dwellers were subject to firearm restrictions that their rural counterparts were not. They are unlikely then to have thought of a right to keep loaded handguns in homes to confront intruders in urban settings as central. And the subsequent development of modern urban police departments, by diminishing the need to keep loaded guns nearby in case of intruders, would have moved any such right even further away from the heart of the amendment’s more basic protective ends.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 212 of 212Mutaman said...
Yet you want to put a gun in their hands and have them protect our kids.
https://crimeresearch.org/2019/05/major-new-research-on-school-safety-schools-that-allow-teachers-to-carry-guns-havent-seen-school-shootings-during-school-hours/
So, Mutman, let's get this straight: You think that teachers SHOULD be in charge of curriculum, but you do NOT think they can be trusted to engage in self and other defense if a gunman attacks.
Would that be correct?
Mutaman said...
Greg The Class Traitor said...
"All the teachers being armed would have left them MUCH safer than waiting an hour+ for the cops"
Let me get this straight- Greg doesn't trust teachers to know what curriculum to teach but he does trust trust them to fight madmen armed with AR-15s, and to die to protect our children.
Self defense is a human right, as such even leftist teachers are entitled to it.
3 teachers died along with the 19 kids. If they'd been armed, and had practiced and thought about it ahead of time (perhaps while doing evacuation drills), 1 or more of those teachers might not be dead, and 1 or more of those students might not be dead.
Why does that bother you?
The cops took their time acting because acting would have involved taking responsibility for the situation. Modern governmental agencies do not do that. Better for your kids to die than the police chief to answer embarrassing questions at a press conference.
If the police don't arrive and save us from violence, how can this event support the argument for restricting guns? This is the very situation that makes the most responsible people want to own guns. It reminds me of the summer of 2020, when there were riots, and the police stood down.
Echoes my thinking. After the 2020 riots, I obtained a gun permit. Uvalde makes me feel like actually purchasing a gun.
So, Mutman, let's get this straight: You think that teachers SHOULD be in charge of curriculum, but you do NOT think they can be trusted to engage in self and other defense if a gunman attacks.
Who says teachers are in charge of curriculum?
"The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. Teachers, as employees, must carry out that curriculum and abide by any restrictions, and they do not have a right to use whatever teaching materials and methodologies they choose if this is contrary to school policy."
"The vast majority of 'teachers' are left wing hacks desperate to push a partisan agenda. The only people who trust them on curriculum are ignoramuses, morons, and fellow left wing hacks."
See my previous comment and link. I know it must feel good for you to be ignorant, as you are never hesitant to display it on the internet.
Blogger Robert Cook said...
"So, Mutman, let's get this straight: You think that teachers SHOULD be in charge of curriculum, but you do NOT think they can be trusted to engage in self and other defense if a gunman attacks."
Here's what i think, Sparky:
Too many guns
Too easy to get guns
I also think anyone who capitalizes certain words is a moron.
Mutaman said "Here's what i think, Sparky: Too many guns / Too easy to get guns".
Mutaman, before we jump to conclusions on whether or not this is the case, I would have to ask a couple of questions:
First, how many school shootings would we need to endure to match the number of children dead at the hands of Nazis, of Soviets, or of Maoists, and at the rate of those shootings occurring, how many years would it take to match those levels?
Second, we have tried for more than a century now to make it inconvenient for law-abiding people to get guns, yet our efforts have been useless at keeping guns out of the mentally unstable and the criminal. What makes you think even more inconveniences on legitimate gun owners is going to do a single thing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally unstable people -- and why don't we put more consideration into how we could keep violent criminals and mentally unstable people off the street? After all, the world is full of danger that can be turned against innocent people -- if someone is too dangerous to be trusted with guns, then why should we trust them with the freedom to get knives, cars, and gasoline -- each of which have been used in comparable, and sometimes even worse, mass murder events?
Robert Cook said...
Who says teachers are in charge of curriculum?
"The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. Teachers, as employees, must carry out that curriculum and abide by any restrictions, and they do not have a right to use whatever teaching materials and methodologies they choose if this is contrary to school policy
Mutaman said they should be in charge of curriculum, and that it was us mean righties who don't trust them to do that, and want to take their power away.
So whine at him.
I think it's right and proper for Republican State Legislatures and Republican-controlled school boards to tell the Left wing "teachers" what they can and can't teach.
But the Left keeps on screaming, moaning, and whining, and calling this "censorship!!11!"
So, go argue with those ignoramuses, not me
Mutaman said...
Here's what i think, Sparky:
Too many guns
Too easy to get guns
1: That's feeling, not thinking
2: That's not the question at hand. You complained that I don't want teachers in charge of curriculum, but do think they should be trusted to come to school armed, where they can defend themselves and their students.
Now, do you agree with me that they should NOT "be in charge of curriculum"? Or do you disagree?
Do you believe they SHOULD be kept disarmed and vulnerable? And a 50 year old female teacher is almost always going to be "vulnerable" when threatened by a 16 year old male student, unless that teacher is armed.
What's the mater? Is your position so incoherent that even you don't want to try to defend it?
I teach public high school, and for the record, I have personally written and created every curriculum I have ever used.
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