"The discovery comes nearly a week after remains were found in a barrel at Lake Mead on May 1, exposed by receding water levels. That victim was believed to have been killed between the mid-1970s and the early 1980s based on clothing and footwear the victim was found with, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department said....."
The shrinking water exposes decades-old murders, and the date is estimated based on a police assessment of whatever was left of the fashion. Was the skeleton wearing platform shoes?
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Weighted down by pet rocks.
Is Lake Mead anywhere near Las Vegas? Not that i'm saying there's organized crime in Las Vegas
Mildly interesting local story. National? Any excuse to scaremonger about climate change, I suppose. Do you accept the manipulation?
He was also wearing a Sony Walkman. They pushed play and the damn thing still worked. The guy had been listening to Staying Alive by the Bee Gees.
A dead guy and you're concerned if the corpse wore platform shoes? Maybe he has his name and address sewn into his underwear.
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Prof A: "...platform shoes?" OMG, your humor today partakes fully of the macabre. These discoveries should inspire a whole new area of criminal science: "fashion forensics."
Platform shoes?
Were there goldfish living in the heels?
They could date the death by the age of the goldfish.
Platform shoes? In the 80s?
Remember how cool Nike's, Adidas, and others (Brooks, NB (when it was cool and not "60 year-old with a 1988 Vette")) were back in those days? You can spot 'em from a mile away in movies and such from back then. Before the advent of the oversprung chunky-foam sole, when things were a bit sleeker overall and not so goddam "orthopaedic" for the teeming masses of collapsed-arches and -knees in the consumer audience.
We need a Martin Scorsese film with DeNiro and Pesci as two aging mobsters who have to get rid of a bunch of bodies that are going to reappear as the waters from Lake Mead evaporate.
“Is Lake Mead anywhere near Las Vegas? Not that i'm saying there's organized crime in Las Vegas”
Very close. My memory is that the town was just a gas stop on the road before the dam was constructed, and it was housing the thousands of men building it that changed Las Vegas from the single gas pump town it had been.
My partner grew up in Las Vegas at this time, moving to PHX in the very early 1980s after being widowed. And, yes, there were periodic disappearances that were thought by most everyone to be mob hits. Some were high profile, like a son of one of the casino owners. The euphemism though was that they were buried out in the desert. Looking back - stuffing the body in a barrel, filling it with something guaranteed to sink, and then dumping it in Lake Mead, is probably easier, and definitely a safer way to go.
I wonder what the half-life of polyester bell-bottoms is?
No. Bell-bottoms. Red, white and blue. With orange socks
Bell bottoms have a long half-life.
Couldn’t pinpoint the exact year, but the underwear had “Tuesday” on the butt.
Imagine what we will find if anyone is ever successful in draining the swamp in D.C.
"Any excuse to scaremonger about climate change"
I thought that was funny, too. Part of my media-bias awakening was when Time magazine managed to shoehorn a criticism of Bob Dole into a movie review. These days, there's nothing subtle about it. A lack of credibility is usually heralded with a trumpet blast of goose-stepping.
It's Fredo.
What about a polyester leisure suit? What about long-tab collars? What about wide lapels?
Watch the movie Casino (1995) for the fashion look and feel of Vegas in the mob era. Starring a very pre-woke era Robert De Niro and Sharon Stone.
@gilbar -- Yes, Lake Mead is the reservoir/lake just outside of Vegas. Hoover Dam.
The amount of electricity generated by Hoover Dam has been decreasing along with the falling water level in Lake Mead due to the prolonged drought since year 2000 and high demand for the Colorado River's water. By 2014 its generating capacity was downrated by 23% to 1592 MW and was providing power only during periods of peak demand.
Imagine the dead bodies when the power runs out!!
Jimmy Hoffa's final resting place, maybe?
Perfect case for CSI-Las Vegas
This is probably a false flag operation staged by the FBI or DoJ.
Platform shoes.
Now we know the motive.
These discoveries should inspire a whole new area of criminal science: "fashion forensics."
Actually , identifying the approximate age of remains by clothing remnants is standard procedure. My brother lived in a vicarage in England and while having a deck installed, a pair of bodies were discovered. The police came and from the clothing remnants immediately determined they were way too old to be of any criminal concern. Archeologists and historians from the local university were interested. Their best guess were they were criminals executed in the early nineteenth century and deliberately buried close to hallowed ground (the church yard across th street) as an act of eternal punishment.
"There's a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a 'package' in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night."
- Nicky Santoro (Casino)
'Hole' I guess is Italian for 'big fuckin lake'...
How many style-conscious men have said, "I wouldn't be caught dead wearing platform shoes"?
Isn't it astonishing how the upper class allows a handful of... well, let's be blunt, degenerates dictate how they dress, what they eat, and how they furnish and decorate their abodes while knowing quite well what is a must-have at any price today will be a tooth-grinding abomination next week?
Just last week I came across an obscure bit of early seventies TV fluff called The Persuaders! (yes, the exclamation mark is not accidental). It's about an oil-and-water pair of millionaire playboys who have adventures, mostly on the Cote d'Azur. They also drive Ferraris and Aston-Martins and wear fab double-knit polyester clothes in pastel shades, complete with lots of neck bling. Jesus H. Christ, is it depressing to watch. The guy in the barrel was probably a suicide.
Mildly interesting local story. National? Any excuse to scaremonger about climate change, I suppose. Do you accept the manipulation?
Scaremonger!? You do know (whether or not you believe in climate change) that the West is in its worst extended drought in almost a thousand years? Maybe even worse than the drought that drove the Anasazi away. Glenn Canyon dam may not be able to generate power by the end of the year and Hoover dam won't be far behind, not to mention the impending water shortages.
"These discoveries should inspire a whole new area of criminal science: "fashion forensics.""
This could be a Netflix series. I never watched the "CSI" shows, but what was it? DNA? Entomology? Blood spatter experts? Fashion forensics would be so much better (better than a show I never watched, I opine expertly).
It happens out in Vegas.
Happens in Moline.
On the blue-blood streets of Boston.
Up in Berkeley and out in Queens.
It went on yesterday,
it's going on tonight.
Somewhere, somebody
ain't dumping some body right.
A modification of Bob Seger's 'Fire Down Below' seems very appropriate with this in mind.
Fashion forensics would be so much better
From the length of the skirt, we can date victim B as from 1964-67
but From the inseam of victim C's pants, That victim was clearly from the '74-'78 period
victim C was wearing Converse All-Stars; So from from '63 (or '77 (or '84 (or '98 (or 2006 (or the present day))))
I'd watch this show!!
Only on Netflix, which seems only to produce shows about "true crime". It's the crime and deviance channel.
Wish they'd continued with the "Mindhunter" series, though.
Geez, people, there are 'true-crime' series available out the wazoo--so many I have trouble avoiding them sometimes. Fashion forensics is a clever term, but it's an old tool.
So much for digging those holes out in the desert… eh, Joe Pesci!?!?
"gilbar said...
Is Lake Mead anywhere near Las Vegas? Not that i'm saying there's organized crime in Las Vegas"
EVERY THING in Vegas is well organized, therefore the crime must be too... (heh!)
Owen said: "These discoveries should inspire a whole new area of criminal science: 'fashion forensics'." Overhead photoreconnaissance of the Soviet Union by U-2 aircraft and spy satellites spawned a new field of photographic interpretation: Boxology, that is identifying military hardware by the size and shape of the crates it was packed in. 'Guideline' and 'Frog' missiles in Cuba were identified by their shipping crates.
Looks like an archeology project covering the era when the mob controlled Vegas.
Probably athletic shoes of the era, identified by the rubber soles and tread.
"New"?? Sounds like old remains.
Maybe Bensen Stovall's body'll finally be found. It'll give some comfort to his long-grieving widow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlUcUfHkdYk
Bodies from that period of time should be addressed by the staff in the pathology lab forming a circle and singing "Who Are You?" (1978).
I enjoy the cold case type shows where the investigation goes back years more than the "fresh body" shows. We tend to think DNA resolves a lot of things today, but with an old body, even if DNA can be proven, there may not be any match; there were no DNA records until a few years ago. Of course relatives and all that. In one episode of the British series "Unforgotten" the corpse had a nice watch on. It turned out an upscale shop in London kept file cards on all customers, and still existed. This was too easy. In another case a titanium plate of Greek manufacture was attached to a young woman's wrist;look for missing Brit persons who went on holiday in Greece. Later DNA confirms the identity, I think with family members.
You missed your opportunity for bell bottoms.
"New human remains were found at Lake Mead in Nevada over the weekend..."
New remains, or old remains newly found?
A wide belt?
A Mood Ring?
Bell bottom blues?
Keep on truck'n t-shirt?
Brand labels are very specific.
Murdered people are murdered people.
Brand labels are very specific.
Murdered people are murdered people.
Of course, a tattoo on the arm is foolproof. Christ, is this funny?
In the Good Old Days in Vegas, there was little crime. If you stole, cheated or just screwed around with anything belonging to the Mob (most of Vegas) you wound up in an abandoned mineshaft of went to sleep with the fishes in Lake Mead!
Maybe they should put Geraldo on the case to look for more.
They seem like old human remains, not new ones. I would rather the headline begin with "More..." or some other descriptor that doesn't mislead as to how old these remains might be.
Does the corpse have a Teamsters ring?
The best use of platform shoes, dancing for outlaw bikers while rhythmically gesturing at one's crotch and butt.
"Fashion Forensics." I daresay, better than most of the mainstream offerings today!
Maybe Hoffa? Weighted down by a small boulder the size of a big boulder. (Or pet rocks as mentioned previously)
Good name for a 60s oldies band: The New Remains.
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