April 8, 2022

"While walking along the edge of the embankment, it appears that the ground beneath her collapsed, bringing her down the bank along with clay and rocks... Clay banks are always unstable..."

"... and can be undermined in areas not visible from above. When hiking, please stay on marked trails and observation areas. If you choose to hike alone, always make sure someone knows your route of travel and when you plan to return." 

Said the Iron County Sheriff's Department, quoted in "Wisconsin doctor fell to her death on solo hiking trip when clay bank collapsed underneath her: sheriff/Kelsey Musgrove was a cardiothoracic surgery fellow at the University of Wisconsin" (Fox News).

34 comments:

MadisonMan said...

What a terrible thing to happen.
Nature can kill you in so many ways.

Enigma said...

Crater Lake National Park entry warning signs:

https://www2.palomar.edu/users/warmstrong/images2/sign01b.jpg

City people drive their cars to parking lots along the edge of a massive drop down to the water.

https://discoverklamath.com/2016/05/crater-lake-everything-you-need-to-know-before-visiting/

They stand on the cliff's edge and take selfies. They often fall and require rescue. No clay present, all volcanic crumbly soil, but city people fail quickly and fail often in natural settings.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

access denied.

is this because it's Fox News? The Soviet left wont allow us to read info from unapproved State Run sources?

gilbar said...

I'm curious HOW MANY times A DAY, people can say:
The Fox Link Didn't Work Me WAH! WAH!! I don't know what to do! WAH! WAH!

Joe Smith said...

And people say exercise is good for you...

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Solo hiking is a bad idea. Adding just one person to your party reduces your chance of bear attack by 50%. Also, you should always be sure that you can run faster than at least one other person in your party. Just saying.

Howard said...

Unstable riverbank sediments are most likely silt not clay. It is very common for people to call silt clay. The famous Georgia red clay is actually silt.

chuck said...

access denied.

Remove the ".amp" from the end of the link.

Bonkti said...

"access denied"

Highlight the url in the address bar and hit enter.

Carol said...

Access denied. Happen yesterday too.

I'll find it..

James K said...

"access denied"

Delete the ".amp" at the end of the link.

Very sad story. We lost a beloved cousin some years ago who went hiking by himself on Mt Ranier in December while spending the weekend in the Seattle area. Presumably hypothermia after some kind of fall or just getting lost. The weather and light conditions can change very quickly, especially in December.

Ann Althouse said...

Yes - Fox does this. I think I 'm going to quit linking to them

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

I take it this was a causcasity catastrophe.

Tom T. said...

city people fail quickly and fail often in natural settings.

"Rural people make their homes on cliffsides and grow their crops there, so they learn to hop around the rock faces like goats."

tim maguire said...

Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...access denied.

is this because it's Fox News?


I got the same message, but I can reach the article through the Fox homepage--I think that means it's Fox, and not the left.

madAsHell said...

I see many individuals wind-surfing on Lake Washington. They usually show up with the whitecaps. More wind, more fun.

There doesn't appear to be a buddy system.

Surprisingly, most of the wind-surfing crowd is men over 45 years of age. I'm thinking these guys just don't care.

Freeman Hunt said...

How sad. Sheesh. When a train isn't hitting you, the ground is crumbling beneath your feet. Death, such an unwelcome and often unexpected guest!

Kylos said...

@Althouse, I did a bit of testing and I think it may be possible to get links to fox to work by adding the following attribute to the link rel="noreferrer"

test referrer

test noreferrer

Whiskeybum said...

I’m not having this “access denied” problem that seems to be plaguing some commenters here with the Fox News links. Anyone know the underlying reason why it works fine for some, but others keep running into this problem?

Temujin said...

Your link works fine on my Brave Browser.

Whiskeybum said...

OK - I know now why it’s working for me… when I click on a Fox News link in one of the blog topics, it opens up the article in the Fox News app that’s on my iPad. If I didn’t have that app installed, I may well experience the same “access denied” problems others are encountering.

Richard Aubrey said...

In Shawnee National Forest last fall. Coming back from a natural bridge or something, we talked to another couple about a shortcut trail. But watch for poison ivy. What's that? They were from Chicago. Found some to show them. Hope it helped.

Temujin said...

This is a horrible story. Hate to read things like that. RIP

farmgirl said...

I googled and found another source.
Such tragedy for the family-she was only 26.

Art in LA said...

The URL works fine if the ".amp" substring is removed ... maybe an extra step when prepping your post?

My condolences to the doctor's family ...

traditionalguy said...

Damn those glaciers. They left a mess behind.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Crater Lake is gorgeous. I was there once as a small child (4?) when my parents were taking me and my infant sister on a trek down the West Coast, but weirdly have never been back since actually moving to OR. All I can recall at the time was being told of the depth of the lake and being scared out of my wits.

chuck said...

Just remove ".amp" from the end of the link. See here.

Ann Althouse said...

Thanks for the advice on linking. Will try

Kylos said...

I got an error posting this. Please delete if this is a duplicate.

@Althouse, I tested rel="noreferrer" in my comment above, but blogger appears to blacklist attributes other than href for commenters. So I tested it on my blog and it appears to work.

See here

For those deleting the .amp, that works because editing the url in your address bar causes the referrer header to get stripped out. If you click Chuck's link, you'll see that it still doesn't work because the referrer gets set when you click the link instead of going to it directly from the address bar.

Rollo said...

I don't care what Thoreau or John Burroughs or whoever would have said. Friends don't let friends hike alone. Be careful on those early morning runs, lest you fall into Lake Mendotabegon.

takirks said...

It ain't just "city folk in the country doing dumb things and getting daided...". Country bumpkins going to the big city, and parking their cars in high-crime areas like they're at home in the backwoods where they don't lock the doors...?

What it boils down to is this: If you're in an unfamiliar environment, take the time to change that to "familiar" before you go wandering off into it. If you go into the desert southwest, you'll find innumerable stories of city folk from all over the world wandering like idiots through Death Valley, and winding up lost and dead. That's an environmental adaptation failure, right there--Your typical desert-dwelling native of the Mojave will likely do something equally stupid in another environment. Although, I will note that people who're used to living outdoors in extreme climates tend to be extremely cautious about wandering into new environments...

I'd submit that if you feel superior to someone just because you're better adapted to the environment where they killed themselves doing something you find silly and foolish, you might want to adopt some damn humility and recognize that while you may be better adapted to that environment, you're also likely just as ill-adapted to one you're unfamiliar with.

I've seen a lot of stupid things done by people in various situations, things that someone with a bit more familiarity with things would avoid. The thing is, you need to pay attention and learn as much as you can about things, before venturing into something unfamiliar. Even things that seem familiar can kill you, because that "seems" is a conditional thing--If you come from an area with river and stream banks that are apparently cast in iron and unchanging, the rapidity with which they can shift and erode can be a major shock when you first encounter it.

I dare say that were you to drop an Inuit hunter into the Australian outback, he'd be dead in short order. Same-same with the Aborigine hunter dumped into the Canadian Arctic... Especially if you chose to do it at the extremes of their particular seasons.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Crater lake:

There's a finger of land that extends out from the parking lot, beyond the barrier. I could see some fool walking out onto that finger and then plunging 500-ft down to the lake.

Art in LA said...

Your link works now, at least for me.