"The whole world has seen tonight in Budapest that Christian democratic politics, conservative civic politics and patriotic politics have won. We are telling Europe that this is not the past, this is the future."
Said Hungary’s nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban, quoted in "Hungary’s pro-Putin PM Orban claims victory in national vote" (AP).
Also: "In a surprise performance, radical right-wing party Our Homeland Movement appeared to have garnered more than 6% of the vote, exceeding the 5% threshold needed to gain seats in parliament." (Yes, I know, that word, but it's too awful for such trivial notations.)
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Left-wing is so infrequently used as to be non-existent. And radical left-wing IS totally non-existent.
Non-existent in the media, that is.
"Psst, leftism is frapping everything. But don't let people know."
I'm trying to determine the Our Homeland Movement's platform.
Per Wikipedia its supporters include farmers, nationalists, those who are pro death penalty, those opposed to "Homosexual propaganda", and those opposed to vaccine mandates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Homeland_Movement
How is this different from dominant US politics as recently as 20 years ago, and perhaps 40% to 50% of US voters today?
Bill Clinton led the "Don't ask, don't tell" homosexual policy in the 1990s.
The Russian government echo chamber here has already been all over this celebrating.
"Opposition parties and international observers have noted structural impediments to defeating Orban, highlighting pervasive pro-government bias in the public media, the domination of commercial news outlets by Orban allies and a heavily gerrymandered electoral map."
This is interesting. Not what's said, but how what's being said can be said about Hungary cannot be said about our country, on pain of cancelation, subpoenas, and worse.
When does Progressive domination of major media outlets earn the US a delegation of election observers?
"it's too awful for such trivial notations"
What exactly is too awful? That a "right-wing" party won seats? Besides MSM epithets, do you know anything about them?
Yes, I know, that word, but it's too awful for such trivial notations
Marxism is slowly destroying America, but an obscure fringe Rightwing party won representation in an obscure country and the world is about to end.
They certainly know how to push your buttons.
this is BAD, right?
i mean this is what happens when people have the freedom to choose their own leaders
people need to realize, that that freedom causes them to be enslaved to non woke ideals
If people would just blindly OBEY wokeism; they would find their True Strength
Anybody who is against Soros is somebody we should be rooting for.
What does the AP consider to be a "radical right-wing party?"
And the pendulum starts to swing back with gathering momentum. Woke progressives in the pit viewing the scything blade in horror...
Althouse writes, "Yes, I know, that word, but it's too awful for such trivial notations."
Yes, indeed. That word is particularly repellant when used in election reportage, deriving as it does from things to do with the gathering and storage of corn, and, by extension, coupled with the sordid practice of ballot harvesting.
By the same token, there's awful, a word I've always found confusing and generally inferior to its synonyms. Awful -- awe plus full, yielding full of awe, much like hopeful, full of hope, and grateful, and a load of other fuls. By its apparent and literal meaning one may write, Moses was awful in the presence of the Lord, but most people would reject that as risible. Was Moses ill-behaved on Mount Sinai, peeved like a spoiled child? Nevertheless, of its seven documented meanings, five refer to awe, and only one means very bad. The same people who use awful to denigrate something or someone are usually perfectly happy to use awesome to praise something or someone else, oblivious to the semantic contradiction. The habit must have started with people using the adverbial form in its sense of exceedingly great, as in Man, that Quaestor is awfully stupid. and eventually dropping the augmented adjective altogether.
Conclusion: Awful is awfully silly and should be eschewed.
In Costa Rica yesterday, a two-time previous President (Figueres) lost to a former businessman (Chaves). Figueres had fled to Switzerland to avoid charges of corruption and only returned after the statute of limitations had run out.
I haven't followed this closely. What is the evidence that Orban is pro-Putin?
I thought Orban was pro-Hungarian and unenthusiastic about adding a bunch of non-Christian, middle-Eastern economic refugees (mostly young men) to Hungary's population base.
Big loss for Soros who has spent a lot to unseat Orban. Also a big loss for U.S. State Department. Orban withstood an information warfare push that tries to paint him as a dictator and Nazi because he refuses to go along with the EU’s open borders immigration, even building a wall. A wall! The highest of heresies to the globalists.
Happy for Hungary. Hungary do Hungary.
Orban seems to have all the right people as enemies.
The only evidence I saw in the AP article for Orbam being pro Putin is that he was still taking Russian gas. Seeing as Joe Biden had to be dragged kicking and screaming to stop importing Russian gas, I don't know about it being pro Putin.
The AP also mentions Orban's anti LGBT stance. Is that Pro Putin? Hmmm...
Good Lord, people. You're long-time readers. Everyone's so ready to hit the battlements they don't even see the word "garner", Althouse's most pervasive bugaboo.
Blogger Mark said...
The Russian government echo chamber here has already been all over this celebrating.
Lefty Mark is trying for a job at CNN. US patriotism is not allowed in Left Mark's world.
Aw is what people say when in pain. Awe is what people feel in the presence of the transcendent.
Awful not Aweful. Aren't words awesome?
What is the evidence that Orban is pro-Putin?
He is against the sanctions and buys Russian gas. Good for the people of Hungary. Go Balaton!
For the left the wrong man won for all the right reasons.
Azov emulator, neo nazi leanings, Putin supporter, fascistic leaders are a desired traits in a leader of a country to the right wing of the US…apparently.
What is the evidence that Orban is pro-Putin?
For the Soviet apologists here, that's a plus.
It's always a Surprise when non-leftists win, isn't it!
Shocking. Be flexible and hit dat reset button, Howie and the Mark.
btw, Orban was the youngest of the reformers that arose in 89, the ones that made the budapest victory after 33 years
Hungary has been on my travel list for a long time.
The notion that Amurkan journos (few of whom can find Hungary on a globe) are the ones to rely on for analysis of Hungarian internal politics is awfully, awesomely, dumb.
OK, not dumb, which really means silent. So the notion is stupid.
Blogger Inga said...
Azov emulator, neo nazi leanings, Putin supporter, fascistic leaders are a desired traits in a leader of a country to the right wing of the US…apparently
The local retard does not know that most of the world, outside Europe, does not support the Biden junta's war. Orban has the support of his people for good reasons. He saved them from the Muslim young men invasion and they continue to prosper.
On the other hand, the Biden junta is taking us to high inflation, food shortages and economic collapse. Far left Democrats, and that is about all that's left, have no idea of economics.
All I "know" about Orban is from an NPR piece I heard last summer in which they claimed he was killing democracy just like Donald Trump. Since the latter is bullshit, I'm inclined to think the former is too.
Awful not Aweful. Aren't words awesome?
Yes. But not your joke, Howard.
That was a feeble attempt at a joke, wasn't it? It's not what you actually believe, right?
The leftist media seems to take issue with The Orban regime staying neutral on the war in Ukraine and not allowing weapons to be shipped through Hungary to the Ukraine. They also reject Hungary’s near total reliance on Russian energy as well. However, Hungarian’s have a long historical memory about decades of brutal Russian/Soviet domination and control. They do not want to cut all their ties to Russia
And they don’t want the war to spill over into their territory. Remember that Hungarians pushed back against communism as far as possible,
creating an alternate black market economy, then known as goulash communism. They know their neighborhood well and live in the world
of realpolitic. Moreover, they have few reliable energy options, but they are developing nuclear energy, unlike most other European countries, but with Russia’s help.
For insights to Hungarian culture, history and politics, I recommend The Hungarian Conservative, an online publication. Its worth checking
out. It has an obvious conservative bias, of course.
The Russian government echo chamber here has already been all over this celebrating.
I'm sure you could try to be more tedious, but I doubt it.
What is the evidence that Orban is pro-Putin?
Mark: "For the Soviet apologists here, that's a plus."
Feel free to actually answer the question, Mark.
The answer is Orban wont kowtow to the moron lefties in Brussels and Soros and the rest of the grifters in the US so its time t demonize and "color revolution" him.
Its that simple.
Michael K: "Lefty Mark is trying for a job at CNN. US patriotism is not allowed in Left Mark's world."
Unfortunately, its not Dumb Lefty Mark, its VA lawyer Mark.
Let's see--what would a pro-Putin head of government do?
--discourage development of nuclear power for domestic electricity generation
--discourage discovery and development of oil and natural gas resources
--limit domestic pipelines and other safe transmission facilities for hydrocarbons
--embrace pro-Green propaganda from Russian and Chinese state security operations
--encourage readmitting Iran, an outlaw state that invaded and occupied the US embassy in violation of international law, to the world economic system
--reduce national defense capabilities while focusing military leadership on social issues irrelevant to efficient and dynamic use of military power
--reduce focus on projecting power around the world through naval resources
--offshore significant portions of the domestic manufacturing system to unstable locations
--assure Putin through an underling than he would have more flexibility after his re-election
--attempt a "reset" of relations with Russia through a public embarrassment involving mistranslation of the word "reset"
Did Orban do these things?
Inga said...
Azov emulator, neo nazi leanings, blah blah blah
So, are the Azovs the good guys or the bad guys now, or does that depend on the day of the week? IIRC your crush The Big Z didn't cancel them for some reason when he canceled the rest of his opposition in the Ukraine. I've been hearing that clearing Nazis out of Ukraine is just Putin propaganda. You saying Putin needs to target Hungary for Nazi clearance? I bet you'd start cheering him if he nuked Budapest.
Inga: "Azov emulator, neo nazi leanings, Putin supporter, fascistic leaders are a desired traits in a leader of a country to the right wing of the US…apparently."
Until a couple of months ago, Inga had never heard of Zelensky or Orban or Azov and couldnt locate either Hungary or Ukraine on a map. Now she is a self-anointed expert.
Similar to her hopelessly ignorant musings on syria-based Kurdish factions when Trump relocated US troops to secure the key oil producing region of Syria as well as knocking off Soleimani which Inga lamented for weeks.
Hilarious!
Drago, I can't tell them apart anymore.
Here is some reading material for both of them.
In the Ukraine thing, I think we are the baddies. Mostly Obama and Biden but the whole CIA/State/FBI entourage is behind this. Putin is a bad dude but he alone is not the only one responsible for this. The globalist/neocon deep state regime is behind it.
More reading material for them./
Drago said...
What is the evidence that Orban is pro-Putin?
Mark: "For the Soviet apologists here, that's a plus."
Feel free to actually answer the question, Mark.
These fascists can't answer your question. They need a foreign war to cover for their manifest failures and embarrassing leadership. Biden and Putin are currently in the same boat.
They have absolutely nothing left except calling their political opponents traitors.
The backlash is coming. I hope they are too stupid to realize their situation.
I have no clue Q. Your the word man. Maybe it's being too full of awe that is upsetting, and having just some awe that is perfectly inspiring. You know, like the dose makes the poison, too much of a good thing?
I was hoping some here who think Orban's a bad guy would explain why. Unfortunately, it didn't happen.
Here's the AP:
"Orban — a fierce critic of immigration, LGBTQ rights and “EU bureaucrats” — has garnered the admiration of right-wing nationalists across Europe and North America.
Along with the parliamentary election, a referendum on LGBTQ issues was held on Sunday with questions pertaining to sex education programs in schools and the availability to children of information about sex reassignment. Participation failed to reach the 50% threshold to make it legally binding,"
So. He's not a lefty. And neither, apparently, is the Hungarian electorate. Horrors!
Let's be honest with one another. Putin likes Orbán and vice versa. There is a portion of the GOP electorate and leadership that admires Orbán's "illiberal democracy". Anyone can search for these stories. It takes minutes:
"Hungary election: Viktor Orban's victory hailed by Putin" (April 4, 2022)
"CPAC Goes Full Orbán - The right launders its support for Putin through the Hungarian autocrat" (April 6, 2022)
"The GOP has found a Putin-lite to fawn over. That's bad news for [liberal] democracy." (April 8, 2022)
"The E.U. Is United Against Russia—With One Notable Exception" (March 22, 2022)
"Viktor Orban Is the West’s Pro-Putin Outlier" (March 20, 2022)
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