From the second disclaimer on a Daily Orange column, titled "SU’s campus is becoming saturated with inappropriate sexual events" (via Instapundit).
The first disclaimer called the column "hateful speech." Notice what's going on: Opposition to the sexualization of public spaces is being characterized as a focused attack on LGBTQ people. Using the same kind of reasoning and interpretation, that characterization itself could be called hateful speech. Why would you portray LGBTQ status as having to do with sexualization? Heterosexuals and nontransgender people are also involved and interested in sex. I remember when excessive sexualization of public spaces was considered a mechanism of male supremacy and an oppression of women!
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@ Ann-
"Notice what's going on: Opposition to the sexualization of public spaces is being characterized as a focused attack on LGBTQ people"
I've noticed.
"Using the same kind of reasoning and interpretation, that characterization itself could be called hateful speech."
There you again with your foolish consistency.
"Why would you portray LGBTQ status as having to do with sexualization?"
Because it is useful, plays the victim card, and strike another small blow agains the old sexual order.
"I remember when excessive sexualization of public spaces was considered a mechanism of male supremacy and an oppression of women!"
Then you also remember how even then the excessive sexualization trope was just another argument of convenience, never taken seriously by anyone except a few deplorable conservative moralists, considering that progs peddling it did not actually oppose such sexualization and women were not actually oppressed.
" Why would you portray LGBTQ status as having to do with sexualization?"
They said the quiet part out loud - "LGBTQ" status is rooted in and specifically about sexualization. Not "interest" in sex, but defining the entirety of the self-identification of the "LGBTQ" person by their chosen, sexualized persona. Sexuality is the absolute, rock bottom essence of an "LGBTQ" identity.
Shit like this is why portfolio is heavy on tele-dildonics.
Tele-dildonics shall rule the world.
More East Coast decadence and moral depravity. I doubt this kind of stuff is happening at Big Ten schools and certainly not a Jesuit schools.
To be fair, the article brings up the LGBTQ community. I can't say if that was an edit to the original or not. The article is also very clear that it isn't something like simply hosting a "drag show" (aside, I wonder when someone will get rid of the concept that calls it a "drag"), but that the drag show had nudity and other sexual stuff. One presumes that people in the LGBTQ community or any other student, that are attending college to get a better job in their future, would recognize that most jobs that require a college education don't involve routine sex. There are a few, but ultimately such behavior is frowned upon, for example Harvey Weinstein.
On the other hand, these events are an example of free speech. Attendance is currently not mandatory (or at least there wasn't a notion that they were). However, I have seen efforts in business to make everyone attend a DI&E event outside of their own identity, and if this is what is going on in college now, then it could happen in the business world in the future. Enjoy the fun of this speech, but if you want to keep it, then don't make it mandatory and don't attack those that disagree with viewing it.
A shorter editorial: You don't need attend college to learn about sex or get into the lucrative sex trade industry. You also don't need working Americans to pay off your student loans if that is why you went to college.
Sex, sex, sex. Doesn’t anyone want an intimate spouse to raise a family with anymore.
"I remember when excessive sexualization of public spaces was considered a mechanism of male supremacy and an oppression of women!"
"Considered?" By whom? Remember when those playmates whose centerfolds occupied boys' bedroom walls were held in bondage by Hugh Hefner? Me neither. Remember when male supremacists forced women to wear those bras that early feminists burned? Me neither.
And today, have you noticed that the takedown of Hollywood exploiters by the #metoo movement has resulted in the refusal of cinema's softcore porn queens to appear nude or in explicit love scenes? Me neither?
Sexualization of public spaces is and has been a profitable endeavor for women and men.
I believe there are two threads to this sexualization of campus (and everyday) life. 1) A segment of the gay population (and now trans pop) has always focused on the sex act as defining them and to be celebrated. Thus gay pride parades have featured nudity for years, even right in the downtown. From this perspective, any objection to overt sexuality is homophobic. 2) Since the 60s, the Left has been against whatever is normal. Being transgressive is overtly "revolutionary" even though it is NOT an actual ideology or philosophy. They are forced to become more and more extreme to get noticed over time.
My deceased parents would still be killing me if I wasted precious tuition dollars on a class called "Kink 101."
Then again, my old school recently had a kink club run for students by librarians. I can't imagine why any public college would take these types of litigation risks, or why taxpayers should be subsidizing it.
Pretty pathetic, all around.
They are forced to become more and more extreme to get noticed over time.
Exactly. That is what this is all about.
Assuming LGBTQ here does not mean Let's get Brandon to quit
I don't understand the question
What else could LGBTQ etc be about than sex an sexual action and who sticks what in whom (Lenin's who/whom question), where and how.
Is there some other aspect of LGBTQ I am missing? If so, what?
Other than sex these are mostly just normal people. Within our broad range of normal.
Or are they abnormal in some other way I am missing? If so, how?
John LGKTQ Henry
I remember when excessive sexualization of public spaces was considered a mechanism of male supremacy and an oppression of women!
I means whatever the needs of the moment require it to mean.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Was the hateful language removed? I read the article and didn't see it.
Am I the only one who is tired of the left using their pretzel logic to manipulate us into giving them what they want? It worked when it didn’t affect many people but now they’re coming for our children everywhere. New ballgame and America is punching back twice as hard. Scatter back under the base trim, lefties.
At universities, no criticism is allowed, because somewhere someone's feelings might be hurt.
That is why the the justifications and methods for suppressing free speech are developed at our universities and then are exported from there to our broader society.
Um, what exactly is hateful language here? Criticism of people breaking public lewdness laws? Then again, these same people who are calling this hateful speech are criticizing laws such as Florida’s recent law banning teachers from talking about sexual identities to 5-8 year olds WHO HAVE NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT THAT HELL THAT MEANS! I would hate to have to try to undo that psychological damage to my 6 y.o. son and daughter from 20 years ago that a teacher had discussed with them about sex in first grade if that what was taught back then.
When a hammer is your only tool, everything looks like a nail.
Omg. You see what I just did there?
I’m guilty of toxic masculinity. 🤦🏽♂️
Well, college and university campuses are now, on the whole, dominated by women. For every 100 women enrolled in college, there are 78 men likewise enrolled. It's been trending like this since the '80s. And yet, now the campuses are more publicly sexualized than ever.
hmmm?
"Compared to women ages 16 to 24, men in that age group were less likely to be enrolled in college, far less likely to have earned a bachelor’s degree or higher, and far less likely to be employed with a college degree. "--Mark J. Perry, AEI: Carpe Diem blog post, April 26, 2022
Why the need for the exhibition of sexuality in public by the people like those at Syracuse U. that was discussed in this article nowadays? Both Mrs. Scott and I have friends and relatives who are gay / lesbian (no transgender or bisexual that we know of). Of these people, homosexual or heterosexual, no one discusses what they do behind closed doors or pushes their sexual identity and practices in anyone else’s face. Live and let live. Yet, those on the left seem to want to impose their sexual practices, deviant or otherwise, on the population as much as possible. Hell, Disney’s internal video meeting that came out (by a whistleblower who I assume is probably being hunted down by Disney HR to terminate) as a result of Florida’s new parental rights law shows their management wanting to add more LGTBQ characters to the point that it seems like the straight characters in their movies will be considered abnormal.
Assuming LGBTQ here does not mean Let's get Brandon to quit
I don't understand the question
What else could LGBTQ etc be about than sex an sexual action and who sticks what in whom (Lenin's who/whom question), where and how.
Is there some other aspect of LGBTQ I am missing? If so, what?
Other than sex these are mostly just normal people. Within our broad range of normal.
Or are they abnormal in some other way I am missing? If so, how?
John LGKTQ Henry
I am starting to think that, absent massive societal cataclysm, it may take three or four generations for all the anti-reproduction genes that have been enabled by widespread nutritional sufficiency to get ironed out of the genome.
Lem, when all you are doing is thinking of your tool, then you just want to nail everything.
If it weren’t for sex, there would be nothing special about being gay or lesbian. Since it’s very important to be special, it’s all about sex.
Is there any straight equivalent to the public debauchery that characterizes a typical gay pride parade? Perhaps there is, but I can’t think of it outside of a strip club or perhaps a rap video.
Assuming LGBTQ here does not mean Let's get Brandon to quit
I don't understand the question
What else could LGBTQ etc be about than sex an sexual action and who sticks what in whom (Lenin's who/whom question), where and how.
Is there some other aspect of LGBTQ I am missing? If so, what?
Other than sex these are mostly just normal people. Within our broad range of normal.
Or are they abnormal in some other way I am missing? If so, how?
John LGKTQ Henry
Apparently I have a piece of thick metal in my brain - tell me again the difference between drag and blackface. Aren't both a way to dress-up and overact as someone you're not?
This is my primary gripe with the incessant jibber jabber about transgender issues at work - it sexualizes the workplace. I was never all that concerned about who my co-workers slept with, how they identified, etc. Don't care and the fact that you MAKE me want to care pisses me off.
"Is there any straight equivalent to the public debauchery that characterizes a typical gay pride parade? Perhaps there is, but I can’t think of it outside of a strip club or perhaps a rap video."
Frat parties with drunken gang bangs come to mind.
"Why would you portray LGBTQ status as having to do with sexualization?"
The alphabet people do it to themselves by defining themselves by who they like to fuck. I agree, it seems shallow but thus is life for some people.
“Using the same kind of reasoning and interpretation, that characterization itself could be called hateful speech.”
Hee. Wokeism meets Gödel.
"Dicks out for Harambe!" I say. Let ye who are without sin cast the first HR complaint!
"Dicks out for Harambe!" I say. Let ye who are without sin cast the first HR complaint!
And TIL there is a UW connection to this 2016 meme!
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8354653/dicks-out-for-harambe-internets-most-fascinating/
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