October 21, 2021

Speaking of the waltz...

Here's "Love On The Spectrum Season 2 Dates, Ranked/Of the many dates on Love on the Spectrum's second season, some stand out among the rest."

Many spoilers in there, so watch the show first. I binged all the episodes — both seasons — in the last 2 weeks. Highly recommended!

13 comments:

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Are the people on the show actors - acting like they are on "the spectrum"? or are they actually people on the spectrum?

Howard said...

Is it a reality show?

Ryan said...

I love this show.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

My nephew is severely autistic. (that is the label given to him) At age 16, he is still mostly non-verbal. He cannot be left alone - ever. He is also a complete nightmare to deal with, with behavioral issues that would try the patience of all the saints.
I would be delighted if my nephew were on "the spectrum" - whatever that means. I guess, based on that clip, it means mostly normal with a dash of socially awkward and shy.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I've watched the show since it first came out. I'm glad they brought back Mike from season one. He carried the first half of season one and then he disappeared. He has an IMDB page and I saw he had a bit part in another show. I've watched the first two episodes of season two of "Love" and he isn't quite as engaging as he was, but the other characters are more than making up for it.

I have an autism spectrum teenager (the real thing, not the smart-but-awkward stereotype who isn't disabled in any meaningful way) and the show makes me hopeful about the rest of his life.

Side note, to everyone who brags about their autism spectrum kid who is awkward in high school: it's not a disability if it doesn't meaningfully limit their educational and career choices. If all ASD does is keep your kid out of trouble in high school it's a net benefit. A smart guy with a good job will eventually figure out how to shut up and listen when women talk.

"High functioning" does not mean a teenager who gets straight As and takes AP classes. It means they can get through the day without adult assistance to do anything more complex than feeding themselves... anyway, the people on "Love on the Spectrum" are high-functioning in the true sense of the phrase.

I love shows about people who are different instead of pretending to be. It's never going to be trendy to have a dinosaur collection, and it's nice to meet sincere people for a change.

Ann Althouse said...

"Is it a reality show?"

Yes, but not in the sense of it being a game. It's more of a real-life documentary showing us some people who are on "the spectrum," and setting up some dating connections for them, almost all autistic people with other autistic people. We see their families. There are interviews. There's a professional who specializes in helping autistic people socialize.

One thing that especially interests me is how much their problems reflect on problems that anyone might have with looking for love — nervousness, awkwardness, going too fast, not communicating.

There are a lot of different characters on the show, with a range of limitations, but the show feels so optimistic, even as you witness problems. The characters are photographed and interviewed in a way that doesn't feel exploitative. Of course, that would ruin the show.

Ann Althouse said...

"My nephew is severely autistic. (that is the label given to him) At age 16, he is still mostly non-verbal. He cannot be left alone - ever. He is also a complete nightmare to deal with, with behavioral issues that would try the patience of all the saints."

Yes, this is a possible criticism of the show, that everyone is "high functioning," and there's no view of more disabled people. There is also one character who has Down Syndrome, but she's clearly not as badly disabled as some people with that challenge.

" I would be delighted if my nephew were on "the spectrum" - whatever that means. I guess, based on that clip, it means mostly normal with a dash of socially awkward and shy."

It means something more than that. I looked up and found a diagnostic test for autism, and you can tell from the questioning what the specifics are and relate them to the characters on the show. You can find out how much of that you yourself have. I took this test and came out having "no autistic traits or tendencies."

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

@Can of Cheese the men on the show are legit. A couple of the women I've been skeptical about, but I'm a man so make of that what you will.

PoNyman said...

@NotWhoIUsedtoBe: @Can of Cheese the men on the show are legit. A couple of the women I've been skeptical about, but I'm a man so make of that what you will.

I haven't watched the show yet, but I do have two kids who were diagnosed, one girl and one boy. Girls definitely show (or more like hide) it differently.

My daughter was very good a mimicking people around her at a young age even while not understanding what she was doing or why she would act a certain way.

My son on the other hand has no care for how others view him, is sensitive to noise, and has no idea that what or how he is saying something would get a negative reaction from someone.

Howard said...

Sounds like a good show, thanks.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Thanks, Ann.
I do know about the autism spectrum. I find myself frustrated with the way hollywood and the media portray people on the "spectrum". They are always portrayed as highly functioning with adorable traits that make them slightly socially awkward. As if the highly functioning end of the spectrum is all there is. Yeah - wow - that's most people in many ways. That definition captures a lot of people.
Hollywood is not interested in the harsh reality of severe autism.


Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Ann,
Also - congratulations on not being on the autism spectrum.

michaele said...

This is such a surprisingly entertaining and endearing show. I have become positively evangelical in singing its praises. It is hard to describe how genuinely funny it is and how much laughter from the heart it elicits.