It was comedy repurposed as fake news, Reuters reports, in "Fact Check-Clip appearing to show Nancy Pelosi saying she does not want Joe Biden to talk at a conference originated as satire."“No, we don’t want him to talk.”
— Article V Convention of States please (@philthatremains) August 30, 2021
Who is telling the commander in chief what to do? pic.twitter.com/JTQe0lADbY
Voice actor and comedian Mike Kaminski confirmed to Reuters via email that the voice heard toward the end of the clip is indeed his voice imitating Nancy Pelosi.But wait.
That only says the "No, we don’t want him to talk" part is fake.
Apparently, Biden really did say, "I am happy to take questions if that’s what I am supposed to do, Nance. Whatever you want me to do." Doesn't that make "No, we don’t want him to talk" superfluous? Biden's own statement shows him following orders, ready to do whatever's he's told.
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"Manipulated Media" makes it sound nefarious. Whatever happened to a sense of humor, and an ability to mock those in charge? Kudos to the voice actor.
Seriously, Althouse?!?
You think that Biden's friendly cooperation with a conference m.c. is indicative of some lack of leadership capacity?
This is the kind of thing where if it had been Trump on the receiving end of criticism like yours in this case, you would have labeled it "TDS."
Joe Biden is a puppet. Period.
He has dementia. The entire world is tearing him apart as any honest media would.
Everyone knows it.
These "fact checks" are whistling past the graveyard.
Prepare for "ends badly."
This is like fake fake news.
On multiple occasions Biden references what 'people' either want or don't want him to do. He has lists of reporters to call upon.
In his early (pre-president) press events (as few as they were), the questions were submitted and selected, and his answers were on note cards.
Let's not pretend that the man is anything other than a puppet.
Castro-Pelosi family are in charge.
"WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO" - No wonder we ended up with this fraud. He's a willing participant in the corrupt FBI-CIA-Pelosi family grifting scheme.
May be fake, but I bet it's true.
So, did they let him take questions? If not, then this isn't much of a fake is it?
Context matters. If you are doing a talk in someone else's forum, or you are subject to a tight schedule that someone else is keeping track of for you, it is natural and appropriate to check in about whether you are "supposed" to take questions. Wanting to defer to the host, or keep to a schedule, is a good thing, even for big shots, perhaps especially for big shots. Isn't it reasonable to assume that's what's going on in the video that apparently has been edited down?
Yes. Yes it does.
Seems to be a theme today of “correcting” news in a most pedantic way, “news” no one cares to have corrected compared to the deep public interest in getting a fix on how many Americans are abandoned by our president in Afghanistan. What about them? Their facts need checking. Anyone? Buehler?
'Fake but accurate' has found the perfect fit. And as AA says, on one level it's not even fake.
I am going to put this right here from our lovable Chuck that he wrote just a week ago:
"It isn’t about the details of the pullout. We are going to get every American out; we will get tens of thousands of Afghan allies out. Probably without any American casualties. I hope so. And think so. And when we do, what the fuck is left for TrumpWorld to bitch about?"
Talk about a comment not aging well. Chuck should probably be leading the Joint Chiefs.
He could have manifested consideration and cooperativeness by saying something less subordinate than "I am happy to take questions if that’s what I am supposed to do, Nance. Whatever you want me to do."
Like — I am happy to take questions if that works for you. Or — Is there time for questions? I'd love to do questions.
The "supposed to do" is relatively bad. That's all I'm saying.
The fact is, he doesn't like to do questions. I suspect he worded it the way he did to offload responsibility for avoiding questions.
For f*ck's sake, he's the president of the united states. If he wants to take questions, the rest of the schedule gets readjusted. No, he doesn't need to ask permission. That he feels the need tells you he really isn't in charge.
Where have I seen this before? Peter Sellers did Biden better than Biden.
“ President "Bobby" : Mr. Gardner, do you agree with Ben, or do you think that we can stimulate growth through temporary incentives?
[Long pause]
Chance the Gardener : As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.
President "Bobby" : In the garden.
Chance the Gardener : Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.
President "Bobby" : Spring and summer.
Chance the Gardener : Yes.
President "Bobby" : Then fall and winter.
Chance the Gardener : Yes.
Benjamin Rand : I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we're upset by the seasons of our economy.
Chance the Gardener : Yes! There will be growth in the spring!
Benjamin Rand : Hmm!
Chance the Gardener : Hmm!
President "Bobby" : Hm. Well, Mr. Gardner, I must admit that is one of the most refreshing and optimistic statements I've heard in a very, very long time.
[Benjamin Rand applauds]
President "Bobby" : I admire your good, solid sense. That's precisely what we lack on Capitol Hill.”
Aren't these things usually straightened out by staffers beforehand?
You tell your staffers what you want in advance, or they tell you how Pelosi has arranged things before you get there.
You don't get caught on a live mic asking her what she wants you to do or what she wants to do with you.
Fortunately some jokester/idiot added additional words to the clip, so we can say the whole thing was fake and never happened.
"I suspect he worded it the way he did to offload responsibility for avoiding questions."
Yeah, wouldn't want the freakin' POTUS to have responsibility for such earth shaking issues as whether to take questions.
He was (elctronically) attending the event of a coequal branch, to which he used to belong.
Somewhere in his addled mind, the principle of comity among coequal branches of government made its way to the front of the queue, and he made sure to defer to the Speaker’s prerogative.
He would have done he same thing had he won the presidency in 1988.
Credit where it’s due….
JSM
Ann Althouse said...
The fact is, he doesn't like to do questions.
No, ask yourself: "Why is that?"
What is it that makes "President Biden" so unwilling to appear before the American people in an unscripted situation?
Is there a possible good answer for that? If so, what is it?
Ann Althouse said...
I suspect he worded it the way he did to offload responsibility for avoiding questions.
What does it say about "President Biden" that he's so afraid of responsibility that he won't even take responsibility for refusing to answer questions?
How can you be a competent executive, if you're unwilling to take responsibility for anything?
"This is the kind of thing where if it had been Trump on the receiving end of criticism like yours in this case, you would have labeled it "TDS.""
I'm sorry, but I have a hard time imagining Orange the Clown asking anyone's permission for anything. The Donald made it clear that he was running the shit show.
Who keeps telling him not to take questions? No one on “the list” will ask unless that kid Doocy does.
pro-marxist LLR Chuck: "Seriously, Althouse?!?
You think that Biden's friendly cooperation with a conference m.c. is indicative of some lack of leadership capacity?"
What's most interesting about pro-marxist LLR Chuck's astonishing and often psychotic over the top reactions to even the most mild chiding of any democratical or democratical policy or democratical action of any sort anywhere, assuming pro-marxist LLR Chuck sticks to form, is that in a few hours pro-marxist LLR Chuck will first claim that his responses are completely justified, to be followed after a few more hours with a belated and pathetic attempt to claim he wrote no such thing.
Should be entertaining, as it always is.
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