August 4, 2021

Would it be possible to provide this feature for iPhone (or other music streaming devices)?

I can see that my iPhone allows me to "Reduce Loud Sounds" in the headphones. I can choose the decibel level that I want to be the ceiling. So if I've got the volume set where I want it for a soft part of the music and it's composed or engineered to get loud, my phone intervenes, and protects my ears. Nice. But I don't use that function. I haven't had a problem with soft/loud music. Look, my iPhone keeps track:

Seems like I'm "OK." 

But I want something more specific: the detection and elimination of applause. I was out walking this morning, listening to a playlist that I'd put together, so this was something I wanted to hear — the version of "Helpless" in the "Last Waltz" concert. You can watch the performance — The Band with Neil Young — at YouTube, here, and it begins where the music begins. But that's not how the album track works! The album track begins with 50 seconds of crowd cheering and applause. 

I have to take it off my playlist. I never want that in my ears again. I kept waiting for it to end. I hate applause in my ears even if it's just 5 seconds or whatever producers deem necessary to convey that this is a live concert. I never want to hear any applause on any music recording. It's the opposite of musical. It's cacophony. So I would love a feature on my iPhone that just skips over any applause.

4 comments:

Ann Althouse said...

Joe writes:

"While I agree that gratuitous applause is annoying, your request is so specific and narrow that there will never be a financial incentive to develop software necessary to implement your wish. You would be better off lobbying for some sort of warning...Rated: N for nudity, V for violence, A for applause.

"When I listen to Sirius XM radio, it remembers where I was when I turned it off. If I don't change channels, I can hit a button and skip ahead or back 15 seconds...maybe something like this is a better (and easier) option."

I'll say:

I know I can skip ahead. I even know how to use Siri to skip ahead (so I don't need to get the iPhone out of my pocket). But I don't know how long the applause will go on. I was amazed that this recording let it go on for 50 seconds... like I'd be impressed that the crowd loved Neil Young enough to applaud until he got out to the middle of the stage and got his act together.

I'd just like to screen out that sound. It's so unmusical.

Speaking of satellite radio, I often listen to the Grateful Dead channel and it is usually playing concerts, so I get a lot of crowd noise there. Do not like!

Ann Althouse said...

Uncle Jay writes:

"On concert CDs, there seems to be no standard of where the track separations are placed (Streaming services use whatever separation is already there). Sometimes it's in the midst of applause, but sometimes it’s where each song starts.

"This can be really annoying if you’re listening to an artist streaming in random mode, because it means you’ll hear applause at a song’s end, then hear the artist give an intro to the next song — maybe even a long story — followed by a jump to a completely different song!

"I hope when they invent a way to skip over applause, they’ll take care of that problem, too."

Ann Althouse said...

Leland writes:

"An alternative solution to your problem, which I know used to be in iTunes, is to set that track to start at a certain point. You need to “own” the track, rather than it be part of a streaming service, which means the track can be found in your iTunes Library. I used to do this to create Ring Tones, and here’s an article that explains how to do just that: Create and manage ringtones - Apple Community. For what you might want to do, just do steps 1 and 2 (ignore 30 second requirement) then save the changes."

I'll add:

I'd have to learn the method in Spotify, but I'm probably too lazy. I'll just oust that track from the playlist and look for something else. There are plenty of Helplesses to take its place.

Ann Althouse said...

Will writes:

"The classic live album with the least crowd noise is "Europe '72" by the Grateful Dead. The audiences were there, of course, but they are almost completely absent on the album, or barely heard for about one second at the end of a song."

I'll say:

I'll check it out. That's something we listened to a lot back when I was in college.