March 13, 2021

Iconic pose.

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I remember staring at that album cover at Two Guys, trying to figure out if I should spend my scarce money on an unheard folksinger rather than retreating to the rock section. Just because I love The Byrds doesn't mean I want to listen to that kind of thing sung by this person in the very strange photograph.  I'd read about Bob Dylan — pronounced, in my head, "DIE-lan" — in Life Magazine, but still. And yet... that photograph. Gaze into it long enough, and you feel you need to tumble into that world... what's going on in there? I need this thing if only for that photograph. I bought the exotic album and that made all the difference.

From my unwritten essay, "Bringing It All Back Home to Two Guys."

48 comments:

Ann Althouse said...

Here's Amanda's "You've Got Me Singing" album cover.

rhhardin said...

It's a sort of "I am useless" pose.

Humperdink said...

Her neck needs to be arched a bit more.

IamDevo said...

As someone said in an entirely different context, "Don't bother me none."

Mr. Forward said...

Neville Chamberlain bragged about his personal diplomacy sitting on the couch with Adolph Hitler. Eva Braun was quoted as saying “If only Chamberlain knew the history of that couch.”

MayBee said...

She looks like she was fabulous.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I didn't think that iconic meant the same thing as classic so I looked it up.

In doing so I hit upon the word ghoul which is defined as "[a]n evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses."

Money Manger said...

With a cigarette surgically attached to her index finger it’s a miracle she made it to 81.

Whiskeybum said...

An underwhelming ‘wow’. Someone again gets media attention for being the wife of someone else who worked with someone of fame/talent. What would we be celebrating about this woman if she wasn’t related to Dylan’s manager? Her Wiki article explains how she qualified for posing in this picture: “Grossman took part because "I was around, and Bob just asked me to do it." So much for ‘fame/talent’.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

I’m so glad smoking isn’t a thing anymore. It’s utterly revolting. I honestly can’t even process an intersection between sexual attractiveness and being a smoker. Instant, 100% turnoff.

Fernandinande said...

I didn't think that iconic meant the same thing as classic so I looked it up.

The main definition seems to be something like "characteristic of a picture", which is frightfully meta in this case.

MayBee said...

I'd read about Bob Dylan — pronounced, in my head, "DIE-lan" — in Life Magazine, but still.

Hahahhahah! I was in my 20s before I found out Bob DIE-lan, whom I always read about, and Bob Dillon, whom I always heard about, were the same man.

Mr. Forward said...

Pants you’re not wrong but once upon a time lighting a cigarette was a sure way to meet risky women.

Big Mike said...

Gaze into it long enough, and you feel you need to tumble into that world... what's going on in there?

And, sadly, it doesn’t seem that you ever really quite grew up.

Laslo Spatula said...

Those of you who fall for Bob Dylan need to take responsibility for your cheesy love affairs?

I am Laslo.

Lurker21 said...

I never saw the album cover, but we did have the Lyndon Johnson Man of the Year Time magazine in the basement before we cleared it out.

To judge from the recent picture of Dylan on the Twitter responses, he needs to get a haircut before he starts getting confused with Phil Spector.

Lurker21 said...

I honestly can’t even process an intersection between sexual attractiveness and being a smoker.

Too many nuns saying over and over again how disgusting and repellent smoking was, made it seem exciting and enticing.

For the rest of the country, it was advertising and the movies.

tcrosse said...

Suze Rotolo, who adorned the cover of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, was more to my taste. De gustibus.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Carefully arranged picture, photographer Daniel Kramer gets a lot of credit.
http://biabhcoverposers.yolasite.com/cover-photographs.php
Dylan apparently liked the fact that one of his "old," acoustic-folksy-protest albums is there, but almost hidden. He is in a transition. Details in the picture: various kinds of music that might influence a leader in pop and rock in the 60s; an album by "Lord Buckley," actually an American, both comedy and music, "part English royalty, part Dizzy Gillespie"; Ravi Shankar for his music, also hinting of Eastern religion; a copy of the I Ching to nail the Eastern religion piece; a magazine published in Europe by an American, with a focus on Beat poets; an unidentified magazine with an ad for a biography of Jean Harlow--Hollywood beauty, not entirely unlike Ms. Grossman?; an old framed portrait in oil, somehow matching the mantel and perhaps matching an old house, painting apparently still not identified. On the other hand, LBJ as Time's Man of the year, and a Fallout Shelter Sign: boomer message: SOMETHING IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT IS REALLY QUITE IMPORTANT.

Stone house built in 1917, with features that might seem older. Officially "Goodbrooks," now listed as within the boundaries of Woodstock, NY. Always seems to have been owned by artists or artsy types--fairly recently Robbie Robertson.

Question: were boomers, or boomer artists, generally as eclectic as Dylan b. 1941(not a boomer)? Is there anyone famous today who is as eclectic, or eclectic in that way? Is the eclectism in this picture not so much "the world is a fascinating place" as "Americans can make something pretty interesting out of the world"? Taking and using what they want?

Ryan said...

Albert is a cuck.

Ann Althouse said...

"It's a sort of "I am useless" pose."

She's sure got a lot of gall/To be so useless and all/Muttering small talk at the wall/While I'm in the hall...

Fritz said...

I had an English teacher in 7th grade who introduced us to Bob Dylan. She was hot.

chickelit said...

Mr. Forward said...Pants you’re not wrong but once upon a time lighting a cigarette was a sure way to meet risky women.

"The force that through the white fuse drives the flower" ~ Another Dylan

Meade said...

Pants just smoked my eyelids and punched my cigarette.

Francisco D said...

Maybe smoking is why people seemed so much skinnier in those days.

chickelit said...

Lurker21 said...To judge from the recent picture of Dylan on the Twitter responses, he needs to get a haircut...

What, and look like you?

William said...

She looks bored in an interesting way, at least in the first photo. In that last photo, she doesn't look like much fun. Maybe she ended up with the face she deserved......Humphrey Bogart really knew how to represent man's existential plight in his efforts to draw sustenance from a cigarette. Consumed by what which it was nourished by. She has some of that in her pose.....Audrey Hepburn in the pose for Breakfast at Tiffany's treated the cigarette as more of a fashion accessory. She wasn't a true committed smoker in the way this woman and Humphrey Bogart were.....Humphrey Bogart died relatively young. If you feed on the poison, you don't make yourself immune to the poison.

Biff said...

Two Guys! There was a Two Guys supermarket in my NJ hometown! So many memories flooding back! A hot dog cart as soon as you walked in. Regular groceries, clothes, records, jewelry...sort of a much smaller, 1960s-1970s version of Target/Walmart. I bought my first 45s and LPs there.

virgil xenophon said...

PANTS@7:07AM/

LOL. As a collegiate scholarship athlete & son of a Hall of Fame College Coach, I never smoked in a day when it was quite common (I'll be 77 in May) but the best characterization of the "turn-off"of smoking was a comment a fraternity brother of mine made when he described kissing a woman who smoked as "like licking an ashtray"(And oh SO true!)

Tom T. said...

My condolences to her family. These remembrances of pop ephemera, however, are treating her as literally part of the furniture. What did she do in life? Did she have a family?

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene said...

In 1974, when I was first getting into the Grateful Dead (in preperation for seeing them live at the Philadelphia Civic Center), I attempted to buy their greatest hits album, "Skeletons From The Closet," at Two Guys in Cherry Hill, NJ. Their LP prices were the best in the area.

I got it home and it was seriously warped! I took it back and they cheerfully exchanged it for another copy, which was also warped!

As there were no more copies of SFTC, I "settled" for "American Beauty." I am glad I did, as it is, in my opinion (and in the opinion of many others) their best album.

As for Two Guys, they were the go-to, '70s precursor to Walmart and a godsend to working class families in So. Jersey and elsewhere. So odd to see them referenced here, then I remember that The Professor is a Delawareńa by birth, IIRC.

Lurker21 said...


The nuns make licking an ashtray sound fun and exciting.

My dad used to say "Two Guys from Harrison" every now and then. I never knew what he was talking about.

They tore down Pennsauken Mart. You can't go home again.

Ken B said...

I have never seen that album cover before.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Professor!
She's sure got a lot of gall/To be so useless and all/Muttering small talk at the wall/While I'm in the hall...
The nerve of quoting Dr. Seuss, and so early in the morning!

rcocean said...

I can see why they painted and photographed her "nose on". The sideview is unflattering.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Bringing It All Back Home to Two Guys."

I think that is playing on Pornhub.

I am Laslo.

tim in vermont said...
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Joe Smith said...

It's one thing to have a signature 'look' (Steve Jobs, Anna Wintour), but it's a whole other level to have your own pose.

I can only think of Derek Zoolander with 'Steel' or 'Magnum.'

She was kind of a hottie back in the day, but time waits for no man (or woman).

I also think the red dress really helped to sell it.

Amexpat said...

Great album cover for one of Dylan's greatest albums. The LBJ Time magazine cover ties in nicely with the famous line contained within:
"But even the president of the United States:
Sometimes must have to stand naked"

Read that Dylan made a trade with Sally Grossman - a Warhol painting of Elvis for her couch. Always wondered if that was the couch on the album cover. Got the negative answer in the post.

FullMoon said...

Look like a pack of Luckies in other photo.

eddie willers said...

I was in my 20s before I found out Bob DIE-lan, whom I always read about, and Bob Dillon, whom I always heard about, were the same man.

I was so embarrassed when I learned that 'fox pass' and 'pho pah' were the same word: faux pas.

tim in vermont said...

"The sideview is unflattering.”

Bullshit, she’s beautiful.

tim in vermont said...

I am watching The Odd Couple, and you know what? I would love to just fall into that world too.

Anonymous said...

Sally Grossman doesn't strike me as a Master-recycler who would Karen her way through life.

Lyle Sanford, RMT said...

John Wesley Harding was my first Dylan album, and going back to the earlier ones was amazing. "You feel you need to tumble into that world" says it so well. Your deploying the "useless" quote gave me a visceral reaction. As I've said before, your Dylan blogging is maybe my favorite. He so deserved that Nobel.

Ann Althouse said...

“ As for Two Guys, they were the go-to, '70s precursor to Walmart and a godsend to working class families in So. Jersey and elsewhere. So odd to see them referenced here, then I remember that The Professor is a Delawareńa by birth, IIRC.”

I lived in Wayne, New Jersey from 1964 to 1969.

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Earnest Prole said...

I dig chicks with beaks, and I dug Sally Grossman.