February 8, 2021

"What if They Held an Impeachment Trial and Nobody Came?/Maybe it’s a good thing that we’re more focused on Biden. Or maybe we’ve just given up.... Let’s not start with impeachment trial No. 2...."

"Interesting how little anybody’s been talking about Trump’s trial this week, including us. Maybe the Super Bowl got in the way, but I’m thinking the country is maybe just Done With Trump. Now there’s a good slogan for a T-shirt.... The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy, thanks to the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans. And to go back to your earlier point for a second, is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?"

2 NYT editors — Gail Collins & Bret Stephens — have a dialogue that shows... what? That the elite wish the impeachment would just please go away?

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rehajm said...

Show trials need good ratings. Must not be polling well...

Jupiter said...

If Gail Collins hasn't had an original thought in three decades, does she still make a million a year for being a liberal halfwit?

mikee said...

They collected a steaming truckload of manure, brought it into Congress, dumped it on the floor and called it an impeachment, and now want everyone to ignore it because they've madea big stinking mess, long after the horse they're complaining about has left the barn and is relaxing in a pasture.

rehajm said...

The fact the left couldn't resist their duper's delight for more than a few days and just had to publicly blab about the steal might have made a few more voters feel the political theater is all a bit unsavory.

Rusty said...

Just,uh,can't,uh,get,uh,my,uh,arm,out,uh of, uh, this uh, fucking jar.
Dimwits found out it's too late to let go of the banana.

Fritz said...

Blogger Jupiter said...
If Gail Collins hasn't had an original thought in three decades, does she still make a million a year for being a liberal halfwit?


Good work, if you can stomach it.

Mr Wibble said...

The country isn't done with Trump. They just aren't buying the bullshit the Dems are selling.

wendybar said...

Because what they are impeaching him for, Democrats do EVERYDAY!!! Inciting Violence. Maxine Waters for example. Why does she still Chair committees after what she incited BLM and ANTIFA to do to Sarah Huckabee Sanders and other Conservatives???

narciso said...

Sound and fury signifying nothing told by an idiot.

Dave Begley said...

I know why the libs keep calling it an "insurrection" but it is factually obvious that it wasn't. Cruel neutrality applied to words and meanings.

To the libs, words have new and incorrect meanings.

Other libs are calling it a "coup."

Libs are so, so intellectually dishonest and plain stupid. I hate intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy and cheating. That's why I left the Dem party.

BillieBob Thorton said...

They are finally realizing that impeaching Trump a second time is going to make him a martyr.

gilbar said...

is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?"

well, there's using "the n-word" ! (whatever that word is?)

God of the Sea People said...

I don't think the country is done with Trump, I doubt very many of his supporters are willing to throw him under the bus over this manufactured outrage- but it seems like a few of these dimwits in the media are starting to realize that they are the ones keeping him in the news.

tommyesq said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy, thanks to the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans.

What took more courage, going along with the mass media narrative or speaking out against it like Rand Paul (who has already suffered a physical attack for his political activism) has?

dreams said...

We're just taking a break from Trump, even he is said to understand and anyway it's still way too early for him to run for president. He and the rest of us will be back, after all, our country needs us.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Resistance fans express deep thoughts about “insurrection”.

Gunner said...

Boy that excerpt already sounds like two old ladies whining about Trump to slightly different degrees. Who wouldn't want to read that?

Tank said...

It's killing them that he's being so quiet.

narciso said...

Even sillier

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/537318-donald-trump-should-be-convicted-unanimously-by-secret-ballot

Big Mike said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy

It’s not an insurrection until Liz Cheney and her fellow Democrats are dangling under street lamps. But if that’s what Gail Collins really wants ...

I'm Not Sure said...

"The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy..."

Fact? Inciting? Insurrection? Progs keep using those words. I do not think they mean what progs think they mean.

Mr. Forward said...

Won with Trump.

gilbar said...

I think it's time, for the Dems to say Just Talking about Bees

Browndog said...

It was a mere year ago that the last impeachment trial ended. Nobody talked about it afterwards, and was never even brought up in any campaign in the last election cycle.

Rob said...

It’s difficult to compete with Adam Schiff’s verbal pyrotechnics and Jerry Nadler’s dance stylings. Maybe Amanda Gorman could perform the closing statement.

chickelit said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy, thanks to the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans.

That is an assertion, not a fact. And Trump has already been tried and convicted by the NYT. That is why I continue to despise them.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

The 5,000 troops in D.C. are there to protect the Dems from Trump. They thought with 2nd Impeachment (like 2nd Bull Run) was going to be a miraculous triumph. Instead, they're going to be hoisted on their own petard. All their incitement of riots over the last year are going to be thrown in their faces. All of their hypocrisies will be shoved down their throats.

Bob Boyd said...

It's all about fund-raising.

Mikey NTH said...

But if Trump goes away where they get their daily hit of Hate-heroin?

Browndog said...

wendybar said...

Because what they are impeaching him for, Democrats do EVERYDAY!!! Inciting Violence. Maxine Waters for example. Why does she still Chair committees after what she incited BLM and ANTIFA to do to Sarah Huckabee Sanders and other Conservatives???


People forget Waters was a catalyst behind the L.A. riots.

Charlie said...

Amusing how libs love Liz Cheney now. LOL

Leland said...

I’d say that want the indictment of guilt of insurrection without the need for a trial. They want you to accept that conclusion as a condition to avoid trial.

Mikey NTH said...

Gunner said...
Boy that excerpt already sounds like two old ladies whining about Trump to slightly different degrees. Who wouldn't want to read that?

2/8/21, 8:36 AM

Reminds me of the old joke:

"The food here is terrible!"
"I know, and the portions are so small!"

Lurker21 said...

If they said they're tired of the impeachment, I suspect they let their guard down and took off their elite hats and just said what everyone else is thinking. A rare moment.

But it's also a moment the media can't afford to let go of -- for business and political and personal reasons. Expect them to make a big deal out of this and act like it's not boring, pointless, and vindictive.

Kevin said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy, thanks to the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans.

The simple fact is that were this true you'd be trying him in criminal court.

chickelit said...

The upcoming show trial is NOT the message about meeting in the middle unless there's something wrong in Kansas.

h said...

They don't call it derangement syndrome for nothing. The Democrats in their crazed obsession to do something -- anything -- to punish Trump, have proceeded to keep Trump in the public eye for weeks and months beyond the point when a normal President would have faded into the background.

Bob Boyd said...

Brad Parscale tweeted

Statement to Trump:

“If they only impeached you twice, you need to run again. Because to change the system you have to kick it in the a#$. I would love to be the only President to be impeached three times. Because history remembers those that didn’t conform.

I’m in, are you?”

If Trump asked me how to win again. I would run on being impeached twice. They are about to give him super powers. They just aren’t smart enough to see it. It’s why we laughed at Mike Tyson in the Hangover. They just don’t get it yet. They are about to make him a martyr."

Sebastian said...

"the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans."

Said the one time some Republicans show some spine and principle.

That's progs for you.

Carol said...

Gee, on the way here I saw an MSN headline that said DC was "consumed" with the trial!

Gusty Winds said...

Althouse wrote: I’m thinking the country is maybe just Done With Trump

Maybe the Country knows it’s a joke. We’ll except Madison, WI.
No his supporters aren’t done with him, or the populist movement he started. Many are now banned on Twitter and other social media. Mike Lindell had his YouTube election fraud video were removed hours after it was up. Many are trying to adjust to our new totalitarianism.

The loudest voices are silenced in our main communication mediums, and Althouse thinks the country is done with Trump. Classic bubble analysis. Gateway Pundit banned from Twitter this weekend. Lou Dobbs canceled.

Get out of Madison more often. Walk among the deplorables who don’t comment here. I was at the Sussex Bowl for the first half last night. When Biden was on the packed bar was booing and ripping him. People were throwing popcorn and pretzels at the TV.

DavidUW said...

what if no one listened to the NYTimes bloviating?
It's easy if you try.

no journalizms above us.
below us their IQ.

Imagine all the time
You'd save oooh hooo.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

2 NYT editors — Gail Collins & Bret Stephens — have a dialogue that shows... what? That the elite wish the impeachment would just please go away?

Maybe. From what little CNN and NPR I've been exposed to lately I get the sense that the "Trump inspired an insurrection" crowd are starting to sound just about as conspiracy theory whack-o as the QAnon crowd.

I don't see this as ultimately being a path to glory for the American Left.

walter said...

Bret: Immediate citizenship for the Dreamers. A long but straightforward path to citizenship for those who are here already and have broken no laws besides being undocumented. A humane and generous policy with respect to political refugees. Well-regulated ports of entry. Strict enforcement of the law. The overall immigration solution seems pretty clear to me.

Gail: So far, not much argument here. Go on.

Bret: The problem is politics. As with Newton’s third law of motion, every progressive action will have an equal and opposite Trumpian reaction. Which is why Biden needs to seize the middle ground here.

Gail: All I was hoping for in early Biden was a pledge to tackle the problem and an infusion of new officials who had an attitude that was both sympathetic and realistic. We’ve gotten that. Much, much more to come.

Bret: Well, it’s definitely nicer to have arguments over policy than to worry together about the death of liberal democracy.

Gail: Sure, although by summertime we may have ground through so many policy arguments we’ll be wistfully recalling the time when all we had to do was yowl about Trump in total sync.

GDI said...

Again ...
They cheated.
We know they cheated.
They know we know they cheated.
They don't care.

Deevs said...

I like the speculation the country is done with Trump followed up by the editor suggesting it as a t-shirt slogan, indicating that NYT editors will never be done with Trump.

wildswan said...

Meeting place in Kansas surrounded by razor wire after people begin meeting there. Several NYT reporters suffer whiplash as gush about unity at Superbowl is replaced the next day by gush about foul white supremacist insurrectionist disgusting fake neighborly neighbors.

MountainMan said...

The only attention I will pay to the impeachment is reading this post on Althouse. That's it. I will pay no further attention to the clown show. And it really is a clown show; the Democrats governing the country now are the biggest group of clowns in our history. I hope we survive at least until the 2022 elections.

Mark said...

Bret Stephens: "is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize"

Bret Stephens is infinitely more disgusting.

Mark said...

Thanks to Bret Stephens and his ilk, we have the Biden Police State.

pacwest said...

This is the circus part. As for the bread - "We will feed them Wolf. WE feed them."

Putting aside the death of the Republic for a moment. It's going to be interesting to watch how the press handles the unmitigated disaster the Biden? administration is going to be. 'Jobs, we don't need no stinkin jobs.'

Sam L. said...

I trust NOTHING from the NYT. The WaPoo, too. They're in cahoots with the Dems.

walter said...

Based on the headline, you might expect mention of Roberts doing just that.
You would be wrong.
By the way, this is an interesting approach.
Do they get to edit their "conversation" before going to press?

Doug said...

Amusing how libs love Liz Cheney now. LOL
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until she is disposable.

Antiantifa said...

“Like Stalin’s regime during the Great Terror, the Party doesn’t fear heretics, it needs them, because its power is renewed by crushing them.”

Doug said...

Amusing how libs love Liz Cheney now. LOL

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until she has served her purpose.

Sam L. said...

I trust nothing from the NYT. Also, the WaPoo. They're in cahoots with the Dems.

wildswan said...

Call your representative on Impeachment day and just say: Unity - what about it?

Mikey NTH said...

pacwest said...
This is the circus part. As for the bread - "We will feed them Wolf. WE feed them."


Something about "biting the hand that feeds them" comes to my mind.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

What difference at this point does it make?

Will Cate said...

Well that's pretty funny stuff there from Gail and Bret. No, that toothpaste is not going back into the tube, and the TV channels will be wall-to-wall with it all week, because commercials have to be sold.

Mike Sylwester said...

Correction to my comment at 9:06

Patrick Byrnes' fascinating account of how he, Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn tried to make an issue of Dominion's role in the election:

How Donald J. Trump Lost the White House, Preface January 23, 2021

Why I Was Involved Before November 3 & What I Learned Because I Was

All the President's Teams

Was there Foreign Interference in this Election? You Make the Call.

Crashing the White House

Agitation and Chaos

Lurker21 said...

A most unimpressive dialogue, but if Aunt Gail was able to get through it without once mentioning Romney's dog on the car roof, at least that's something ...

*

Same old immigration BS from Stephens: saying "strict enforcement of the laws" while ignoring or gutting the existing laws. I am curious about Bret, though. He doesn't like Mexicans and Central Americans (memories of his unhappy days growing up in Mexico City), but he has to pretend to be for more of them coming here for some reason.

Tina Trent said...

Gail Collins reminds me of the lefty professor who invited me to dinner one night and begged me: don’t tell anyone I have this (very expensive) house.

Matt Sablan said...

I'd hate to see how much I'd have had to hear about it for the last month or so if we *were talking about it.*

Amadeus 48 said...

"...is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?"

Yes, I can think of several things more disgusting, most of them done by Democrats.

Matt Sablan said...

"like Rand Paul (who has already suffered a physical attack for his political activism) has?"

-- Attacks, plural. He's been tackled, shot at on the baseball field, and physically harassed on the streets of DC.

iowan2 said...

I think an analysis of Chaney would be an interesting case study in politics.
"all politics is local" according to some pol by the name of Tip ONeil

Chaney is garnering a 13% approval from Wyoming Republicans, while President Trump is earning ~90% approval from Republicans.

Chaney is ignoring her own voters to fall into line with the DC hegemony. I'm no political science major, but ignoring your voters to service the DC elite, seems like a sure way to be out of electoral politics. Of course the administrative state alway has positions for sale. Some nameless cowboy should be able to oust cheney, by just pointing out all of her cowtowing to the DC swamp, instead of hard working Wyomingites.

Spiros said...

I still can't believe a regressive right wing sex pervert billionaire became president! Even if he is a worthless degenerate, the man's 2016 campaign was masterful.

Mike Sylwester said...

I can't make the final two links work with HTML. You'll have to cut and paste.

https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/02/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-chapter-4-the-christmas-doldrums-december-23-noon-january-6/

https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/02/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-chapter-5-the-chaos-january-6-20/

iowan2 said...

"...is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?"

Its an unforced error by Cheney. It is clear the impeachment is unconstitutional. Standing on principle is a no lose position. Carrying water for Dems in the face of violating the constitution is a real mystery. But I have no idea what her goal is. Seems to me like she pissed off her base, and the Dems still revile her and her last name.
All the while violating the Constitution.

Amadeus 48 said...

The Soviets had Pravda and Izvestia. We have WaPoop and NYT. They all are organs of ruling party propaganda.

Soon we'll get the good news of demonstrations of thanks because that the chocolate ration is going up to 20 grams a week. (Last week it was 30 grams a week.) "Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it."

For those of you who haven't read 1984, this is doublethink in action.

Mikey NTH said...

Spiros said...
I still can't believe a regressive right wing sex pervert billionaire became president! Even if he is a worthless degenerate, the man's 2016 campaign was masterful.

----

I don't think Biden is a billionaire yet.

Leland said...

I get the sense that the "Trump inspired an insurrection" crowd are starting to sound just about as conspiracy theory whack-o as the QAnon crowd.

I've had that sense from day 1. Every time I hear the Capitol riot as "insurrection", my eyes roll hard. Even Ted Cruz claimed as much, and the only reason I can figure he is saying it is either moderation or that he knows more facts that have been hidden (i.e. the insurrectionists were riled by lefty agitators leading a false flag). Even there, I enter conspiracy theory and it seems wacky. If you want to see an insurrection, compare the CHAZ event to what happened in the US Capitol. In the former, you have people declaring parts of the US autonomous to the rest of the US. They were leftist, who were supported by the local Mayor and ignored by the Democrat Governor as anything but a mild annoyance. Participants of the CHAZ also carried firearms and killed people.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy

This from the people who celebrated Democrats' BLM insurrection against the President and American Democracy all summer long.

A Congress pushing vote fraud deserves no respect

Gusty Winds said...

Scott Adams put is best in a tweet. “Every Trump supporter goes on trial this week, in what is probably the dumbest and most destructive thing Congress has ever done to this country.”

He’s right. This isn’t all about Trump. It’s about the 75 to 80 million people who are being labeled domestic terrorists. Even Liz Cheney is in on the act, and her Dad killed more people than Castro and Che combined.

walter said...

iowan2 said... Seems to me like she pissed off her base
--
Ya think?
She was yacking with Wallace/Milhouse about her WY folk need deprogramming.

Browndog said...

Whoever watches it keep us posted.

Somebody is going to watch...right?

Skeptical Voter said...

I think that Collins and Stephens are beginning to realize that this show trial--aka Nancy Pelosi's fevered dream, is becoming a political "who cut the cheese?" moment. The fact that Eric Swalwell is supposedly one of the impeachment managers is particularly appropriate.

It was a bad idea to start with, and it's not going to get any better.

dreams said...

"And to go back to your earlier point for a second, is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?""

Liz Cheney is just another swamp creature, I predict she will lose her next election and then will become a DC lobbyist. She can make a lot of money while continuing her self-delusion that she is a principled courageous person.

PM said...

"...blah blah blah a good thing we're more focused on Biden..." said w/o irony by midgets alternating fingers to type their 23,635th column about Trump.

Spiros said...

Is Trump actually guilty of incitement? You can be as bellicose or as offensive as you want in a private setting, but Trump was in front of a crowd.

iowan2 said...

She was yacking with Wallace/Milhouse about her WY folk need deprogramming.
Thats funny.
Her and Wallace are equal in their ignorance of anything outside the 26 square mile border of DC
Deprogramming is novel. Cheney has no power to deprogram anything. But the voters of Wyoming sure have the power to deprogram Cheney.

("Cheney"... Who was that guy on msdnc that always corrected everybody about the pronunciation?
Cheeny, is what he always said and everyone else was wrong, What ever happened to that talking head? Haven't seen or heard of him for years)

Matt Sablan said...

"Is Trump actually guilty of incitement? You can be as bellicose or as offensive as you want in a private setting, but Trump was in front of a crowd."

-- That probably doesn't change that much when determining if it is or is not incitement. The fact he said to be peaceful is a real big hurdle for anyone trying to prove incitement.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Spiros said...
Is Trump actually guilty of incitement? You can be as bellicose or as offensive as you want in a private setting, but Trump was in front of a crowd.

Really? So the 1st Amendment doesn't protect public pro-mob speech by Democrats? Good to know.

We need to get the prosecutions started, asap

Ann Althouse said...

@Gusty Winds -- are you just a troll? You wrote "Althouse wrote: I’m thinking the country is maybe just Done With Trump"

NO I did not.

You proceed to bullshit about Madison, WI. and "Althouse thinks the country is done with Trump. Classic bubble analysis. Gateway Pundit banned from Twitter this weekend. Lou Dobbs canceled."

Get your act together. Before you attack me on MY BLOG you'd better make sure you are quoting me.

"Get out of Madison more often. Walk among the deplorables who don’t comment here."

How dare you attack me like that when you haven't done the FIRST THING to ensure that you've got your facts straight.

I'm not going to put up with bullshit like this anymore. Put some effort into your comments.

tim maguire said...

Spiros said...Is Trump actually guilty of incitement? You can be as bellicose or as offensive as you want in a private setting, but Trump was in front of a crowd.

That's not a legally recognized distinction. It's funny how much leeway liberals give themselves to create their preferred reality simply by playing with words.

mezzrow said...

I don't know whether to be amused or amazed at the continuing complaints over posts based on NYT and WaPo sources. Yes, most of it is a combination of talking points for the elite and disinformation, and what we see here is usually posted to draw a line under that very fact (if my powers of deduction still work.)

This is a service to people like me who drank deeply from that trough for years and believed what I read there until the implications of the Gell-Mann amnesia effect finally sunk into my thick skull. These bits and pieces are carefully and skillfully selected for a reason, which is often explicitly explained in the post.

At the risk of sounding like I'm sucking up, I want to acknowledge the above. Some may agree.

Leland said...

Somebody is going to watch...right?

Hell, I thought it was over. Didn't Schumer say something that it would be over in a week about a month ago? We know the outcome; a majority of Senators will vote to convict Trump, because Romney and others hate that Trump did what they couldn't, but they can't get enough Republicans to do something stupid like convict a person on such a silly and unsubstantiated charge of insurrection. All that is left is milking the trial for as much publicity as it can give the news media and by extension fame hungry politicians. I choose not to participate, and so did Trump.

iowan2 said...

Is Trump actually guilty of incitement?

No. If he were, the House Managers would have cited US code that outlines that crime. Not even a 1L Wisconsin student would be stupid enough to cite an actual crime, and then have to defend the charge.
Yet another action taken by Democrats that prove the impeachment is a sham. The President may not be able to be indicted, but after Jan 20, no problem...except for proof of even a single element on the crime of incitement.

Kirk Parker said...

Jupiter,

The State isn't particularly attractive; one shouldn't find it surprising that it finds it necessary to pay people to fellate it.

Spiros said...

I agree that if Trump was a normal person he would not be guilty of incitement or making true threats or anything really. Consider Watts v. United States, where the accused, in front of a crowd at the Washington Monument, was going on and on about Vietnam and racism:

“They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already received my draft classification as 1-A and I have got to report for my physical this Monday coming. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.... They are not going to make me kill my black brothers.”

The Supreme Court held that the First Amendment does not protect true threats. But the Court further explained that political hyperbole is not a threat. Watt's speech was constitutionally protected free speech because it was “a [ ] very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat.

I get it. Trump was not really threatening anyone or inciting anyone if you use these standards. But he was the friggin' President of the United States! And he was acting like a worthless pig!

Howard said...

Do they give credit for riffing from the Hippie mantra during the Viet Nam War?
(Via Wikipedia)Charlotte E. Keyes in her 1966 article for McCall's magazine titled "Suppose They Gave a War and No One Came".[3][4]

mockturtle said...

This morning on Varney [just before I switched it off], Joe Theisman was praising the NFL for honoring the policeman 'who was murdered' at the January 6 riots.

Michael said...

Watching the game last night with a D politico high up in state govt. He thinks congressional leadership have painted themselves into a corner with what he called "faux-impeachment". It will fail and let Trump re-emerge as a martyr...stronger than ever.

Made a good point that unless the economy improves significantly for the bottom 40% by November 2022, he fears midterms will be catastrophic.

mockturtle said...

I haven't heard even ONE PERSON on my side of the political fence say anything about unity, except to spit out the word in disgust.

Matt Sablan said...

"I get it. Trump was not really threatening anyone or inciting anyone if you use these standards. But he was the friggin' President of the United States!"

-- Obama was not held to these standards, and he said very similar things to Trump. No other high political official has been held to these standards. If you want to carve out a special "Trump and Republicans should be held to higher standards, because," rule, you're welcome to try it. But, I prefer one set of rules for people. If you want Trump impeached, fine. Start rounding up the rest. We know we can impeach people who are no longer in office, so let's get Obama up there. I mean, these are STANDARDS right, not just a convenient bludgeon for a politician you dislike, right?

mikee said...

In 2022, the Republicans will take the House by a narrow majority. Here's hoping their first action in 2023 will be to impeach President Harris for her actions, before becoming VP, in financially assisting the rioters in Portland. Yes, President Harris. You can't possibly believe Joe's dementia will allow him to remain in office any later than Tuesday, November 08.

This impeachment? History repeated as utter, utter farce.

Matt Sablan said...

"I haven't heard even ONE PERSON on my side of the political fence say anything about unity, except to spit out the word in disgust."

-- I'm fine with unity; it just starts with either the Democrats admitting that they've been attempting to use two sets of rules in bad faith and agreeing to start acting in good faith, with expected political consequences if they don't, or they adopt the rules they apply on Republicans on themselves -- I'm not sure how many people will still have committee assignments and not be impeached if we start applying their rules universally.

I'll accept either path to unity, to be honest. But, "unity" where Democrats get special privileges, and Republicans get special punishments is not one we can accept.

dreams said...

As to the ambitious swamp creature Liz Cheney, there is this...

"Fresh from controversy — and GOP censure — for her sparsely followed vote on impeachment, House Republican Conference leader Rep. Liz Cheney is putting some new plans on the table for Getting Trump.

Speaking on Chris Wallace's Fox News show, she suggested that the impeachment vote wasn't enough. Now she's joining the Democrats to look for criminal prosecution of President Trump.

According to left-wing Rolling Stone:

The Senate [impeachment] trial is a snapshot. There is a massive criminal investigation underway. There will be a massive criminal investigation of everything that happened on January 6th and in the days before," Cheney continued, "People will want to know exactly what the president was doing. They will want to know, for example, whether the tweet that he sent out calling Vice President Pence a coward while the attack was underway — whether that tweet, for example, was a premeditated effort to provoke violence[.] ... There will be many, many criminal investigations looking at every aspect of this that everyone who was involved, as there should be.

She built her call to criminal investigation on a bed of leftist lies."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/02/liz_cheney_emboldened.html

mockturtle said...

Matt, where was talk of unity during the past four years?

Biff said...

Neighborhoods destroyed by arson and looting over months: "mostly peaceful protests"
Isolated riot by a few agitators and yahoos at the Capitol: "insurrection, coup attempt"

Spiros said...

Maybe Obama and his senior officials actually incited violence against police officers? These people vilified law enforcement and spread malicious lies about rampant killings of unarmed black men. In June 2016, a heavily armed sniper specifically set out to kill as many white officers as he could in Dallas as revenge for fatal police shootings of unarmed black men. Five cops died because of the police shootings myth.

But Obama was earnestly moderate. He'd weep over "unpunished racial injustices" & "if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." But nothing really aggressive. Even if his attorney general was a disgusting liar and a piece of sh*t, Obama above the fray.

daskol said...

I am torn between enjoying this blog and desiring strongly to hasten obscurity for jag-offs like Gail Collins and Bret Stephens. They matter ever less, and their silly if revealing dialogues are the bleatings, the noise and rhythm of dying beast.

Quaestor said...

Howard writes: Do they give credit for riffing from the Hippie mantra during the Viet Nam War?

Will Howard ever give credit where credit is due?

Carl Sandburg says, Probably not.

Howard's commentary is like a shovel swung at my head -- it leaves a dull impression on my mind. Dried out, washed-up hippies. The beach detritus on the sands of time.

Lurker21 said...

On that letter from law professors about impeachment:

Presumably, some of the signatories do not agree with this statement. And the inclusion of “regardless of whether” makes it even less clear what “Many” professors are agreeing to. Some professors may think the First Amendment applies to impeachment proceedings. Some professors do not. Some professors think that the First Amendment does not apply, and Trump can be convicted for some reason. And some professors think that the First Amendment applies, and Trump cannot be convicted. But the full sentence makes it even less clear what “many” professors are agreeing to. . . .

I have long been critical of these sorts of group statements. Law professors tend to have very nuanced views. And letters prepared for 100+ professors cannot adequately reflect that nuance. This letter tried to accomplish some nuance by referring to the views of “many” professors. But in doing so, the letter fractured so badly that I’m not even sure what precisely a majority agreed upon. This statement reads like a splintered plurality decision from the Supreme Court where there is a majority that agrees on a single disposition, but there is no single rationale. Alas, this nuance will be lost in public discourse. What matters is that 140 law professors submitted a letter arguing against Trump’s First Amendment defenses.


Mollie Hemingway has her take on the Springsteen ad: The 3 Worst Things About That Terrible Jeep Super Bowl Ad

Lurker21 said...

So what Trump said wouldn't be incitement if he weren't Trump, but he was Trump so it was incitement? Ri-ight.



I don't mind Meghan McCain being a Daddy's Girl. She doesn't have any power. Liz Cheney is a different story. Impeaching Trump and throwing him in prison isn't going to make Dick stink any less.

Quaestor said...

Charlotte E. Keyes in her 1966 article for McCall's magazine titled "Suppose They Gave a War and No One Came".[3][4]

Howard (Ojibway for "He Who Ate the Library Paste") is evidently too damned lazy to trim the useless footnote citations from the crap he lifts in toto from Wiki-fucking-pedia.

Iman said...

When I ponder “spineless, unprincipled”, Stephens immediately comes to mind.

dreams said...

Gail Collins, what a despicable liberal, just another ugly liberal. So cockroach-like and there's always more...

Lurker21 said...

"Unity" is a funny thing in politics. We are united in some things but of necessity divided in politics. I understand that we have been becoming less united because of politics in recent years, but political appeals to unity are bound to be either innocuous or hypocritical. One can fault Trump for not talking about what unites us more. Maybe if he had, he might still be in the White House. But not doing so was part of his avoiding the usual cant and hypocrisy of politicians. It's also understandable why he might have chosen not to go down that road, though it probably wasn't a choice, but just something that wasn't in him.

dreams said...

"Mollie Hemingway has her take on the Springsteen ad: The 3 Worst Things About That Terrible Jeep Super Bowl Ad"

I read it, I'm a big fan of Mollie Hemingway.

Amadeus 48 said...

My view is that Trump was foolishly reckless to hold his rally on Jan. 6 while the Congress was considering objections to the electoral votes. Hawley and Cruz had agreed to carry the debate forward inside the Capitol.

What was Trump trying to accomplish? What did he think would happen when he sent off a crowd consisting of he knew not whom to the Capitol? Certainly they might chant on the Capitol steps. Would some of them make him look bad? Who was in that crowd outside the Capitol? Did he think that a chanting crowd would influence the Democrats...or the Republicans? Mike Pence had already stated how he planned to discharge his duties.

So the whole thing was ill-conceived and smacked of show business rather than governance. And it blew up in Trump's face. BUT, he was leaving office on January 20.

Now the Democrats have launched their own act of self-immolation, fecklessly pursuing Trump in an impeachment trial after he has left office. They look like vengeful idiots who don't know how to deal with victory.

Let's see how they deal with defeat in 2022.

hombre said...

“...focused on Biden ....” Bwahahahaha!

Since they know who and what Biden is the focus is on concealing that as well as what he is doing and the evident and inevitable consequences thereof. A tougher task than defaming Trump, as always, they will manage to dupe the faithful to the disadvantage of the not faithful.

Leftmediaswine abide!

Iman said...

I don't think Biden is a billionaire yet.

yuan a make a bet on how long before he is?

hombre said...

“Let's see how they deal with defeat in 2022.”

If Republican legislators clean up the cheating grounds, that might even happen.

effinayright said...

.... the death of liberal democracy."

****************
What bullshit. that Time article uses the same term, "democracy", AS IF our country is set up for majority rule on a national level.

Dems yammer on about how many votes Biden allegedly got , AS IF that were dispositive.

FORGET how the House seats are apportioned by population, vs the two-seat-per-state Senate.

FORGET about the Electoral College, which gives smaller states skin in the game in Presidential elections.

FORGET about the filibuster and the super-majority rules on passing legislation.

FORGET about the Supreme Court's ability (arrogated by themselves to themselves) to overturn laws passed by the Legislature.

In other words, FORGET that the USA is a Constitutional Republic, not a "democracy".

If the New Fascisti get their way we will be voting with our cellphones, reverting to the thumbs up/thumbs down gestures of the Romans as they decided whether gladiators lived or died.

And that, of course, will be call "Progress".

stevew said...

This morning on Varney [just before I switched it off], Joe Theisman was praising the NFL for honoring the policeman 'who was murdered' at the January 6 riots.

On the broadcast of the game last night the announcer that is not Romo said the same thing. I wondered if the authorities had figured out what caused his death because just a couple of days ago it was widely reported that they either couldn't figure it out or were, at least, not revealing the cause of death.

Sigivald said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy, thanks to the complicity of spineless and unprincipled Republicans

Their view is the only view, and is Truth.

You know this because they're Times editors.

Those of us who neither love nor hate Trump see exactly how they treat everyone who isn't 100% on their side, though, and we remember.

"Unity via everyone else having a struggle session and joining our side" is not how human beings work, at least not without guns to their heads.

Gusty Winds said...

Blogger Amadeus 48 said...
My view is that Trump was foolishly reckless to hold his rally on Jan. 6 while the Congress was considering objections to the electoral votes. Hawley and Cruz had agreed to carry the debate forward inside the Capitol.

I get it. But the Water Buffalo Shaman "insurrection" was a set up. They are currently shitting themselves because WI Sen Ron Johnson says Pelosi was involved.

If Pence had to plan to exercise his authority to send the electoral votes back to the corrupt states so their GOP Legislatures could do the right thing, it was over.

Trump showed them all the 1 million Americans would show up to call bullshit. They know, that we know, that they know, that we know they cheated. It's why the walls around the Capitol will be up for a long time.

Trump pushed it to the limit. That's what his voters, who were cheated along with him, wanted him to do. As far as I'm concerned, he delivered.

hstad said...

Althouse, I'm still amazed, given your background, at your confetti of NY Times postings. It's a propoganda media outlet - end of story. I recently read an article [NY Times] which wrote a "...glowing paean to the Covid efforts of the Chinese Communist Party..." Yet no one asked that reporter [its editors] if he [they] verified the data given to him by the CCP. Shades of 'Walter Duranty', during the Stalin era, pushing the Communists propoganda 24/7 even back then. My point, the NY Times and other MSM outlets long ago abandoned their primary duty - informing their readers - unless it meets with their editorial [political narrative] views. Thank God for your comment section - that's why you should never drop that 'diamond in the rough'.

Todd said...

mockturtle said...

I haven't heard even ONE PERSON on my side of the political fence say anything about unity, except to spit out the word in disgust.

2/8/21, 10:51 AM


Sorry but from were I am sitting, that was tried for at least 12 years. We were told "elections have consequences" and to basically sit down, shut up, and do what you are told. The teaparty was born and they were called every name in the book. We then watched the administration's illegalities being ignored by the press and those tagged with upholding the law. After 8 years of that, Trump got elected. We then went through 4 years of #RESIST and that we are all racist, homophobic, deplorable, etc.

Enough people (and fraud) wanted Trump gone that we now have BadTouchBiden and calls for #Unity. Well sorry. I can remember back more that 15 minutes. All of those liberal/Democrat/progressives now calling for unity can shove it up their asses. To them I say WE SEE YOU and we won't forget. So, sorry, no unity this term because their definition of "unity" is their foot on our necks forever.

Gusty Winds said...

hombre said...If Republican legislators clean up the cheating grounds, that might even happen.

They won't clean up anything. It would be an admission something went very wrong. In Wisconsin, our Supreme Court blocked cleaning up the voter rolls of 200K dead people by a 4-3 decision. They decided not to follow the law.

So now we have the corrupt Wisconsin Election Commission assuring us none of those 200K people voted. If so, why not clean it up? We're fucked. There will be no more free and fair elections.

stlcdr said...

I'll be doing my best to ignore the Federal Government - they have demonstrated that they are the country's dead weight, and ruin everything for everybody - until Trump, or someone like him, is back in the picture running for the presidency.

Narayanan said...

Maybe if they took down razorwire barricades and gun toting military goons people would venture into the circus seats.

Gunner said...

Amadeus 48: Trump probably thought that the MSN would treat the protesters almost as sympathetically as they do crazy BLM/Antifa looters. That was incredibly naive.

The Left has made protesters and rioters holy, but only for Socialist causes.

tim in vermont said...

“Unity” is a fascist concept. “Ye can nae break sticks when they're in a bundle...” as Mussolini and Hillary and fascist Scotty all said. The rest of us want to live as free men with free wills and to get along peacefully with our neighbors, not to tell them what to think, or to have them tell us.

Amadeus 48 said...

Ron Johnson is one of the best senators. When he beat Russ Feingold (who believed he was owed a Senate seat) twice, I was delighted both times.

gilbar said...

Liz Cheney is just another swamp creature, I predict she will lose her next election

Nope, she won't HAVE another election... Not from Wyoming, anyway. Retirement here she comes

MikeM said...

Folks should get this congressman's name right. It is *Shagwell*.

tim in vermont said...

Nancy wanted machine gun nests on the roofs of Federal buildings in our nation’s capitol and we are talking about some rambunctious demonstrators who got out of hand after seeing demonstrators get out of hand all summer with zero consequences.

But as they say in hockey, the ref always catches the retaliation. Except the hockey ref has the excuse of zero time to think and doesn’t call them all for the benefit of one team.

tim in vermont said...

Democrats are behaving like people who not only know they cheated, but know everybody knows they cheated.

“No need for witnesses or cross examination! He’s obviously guilty!”

gadfly said...

Bret: Best New York Times editorial headline ever: “The Right Minimum Wage: $0.00.”

Amen to that. But with Biden's unionist appointments to the Department of Labor - $15/hr minimums are just around the corner nationally except for servers, whose tips percentage will drop when kitchen help cost increases raise restaurant prices.

So the Dems will spend our money to make the unions happy. Its a contract negotiation ploy to raise all union wages.

donald said...

Tapping more super fine ass than your entire family will ever tap is not perversion Spiro.

Cigars up twats? That’s perversion.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Nancy knows we HATE her. That's why she is so paranoid.

Pelosi family grift is no different than Biden or Clinton family grift.
Gotta protect the mob.

CapitalistRoader said...

...is there anything more disgusting than Kevin McCarthy asking Cheney to apologize for her vote to impeach?

Yes. Praising binders full of women guy for his vote to impeach.

NYC JournoList said...

If the FBI/CIA can get away with their incitement and coup attempt then why not Trump?

ObeliskToucher said...

When the Republicans take the House in 2022, they should conduct 1-day, 1-pretextual-article independent impeachments (like this one of Trump) for both Biden & Harris. After the presumably Democrat-run Senate bins those impeachments, House should repeat the process twice more with other articles, wasting more time in the Senate without much effort in the House.

Purpose would be to drive home the point that "High Crimes & Misdemeanors" should be a high bar and not a speed bump...

gadfly said...

Gusty Winds said...
Even Liz Cheney is in on the act, and her Dad killed more people than Castro and Che combined.

Sorry Windy - I searched and searched for Dick Cheney's murderous past but the best I could find came from The Onion: "Dick Cheney Finally Hunts Down, Kills Man He Shot In Face In 2006."

SensibleCitizen said...

Justice Roberts has already declined to show up -- consequently, it would seem that is the last word on whether conceptually this is even a thing. How can you have an impeachment trial if the presiding justice, who is required to preside by the constitution, has said no thank you?

What a ridiculous waste of time and focus. As I recall, the last impeachment wasted time and focus at exactly the same time COVID-19 became a thing. Would it not have been better to have some congressional attention on that little issue instead of on an impeachment trial with an outcome that was fait accompli? Just as this one's outcome is fait accompli?

Idiots.

Freder Frederson said...

speaking out against it like Rand Paul (who has already suffered a physical attack for his political activism) has?

Quit spreading this stupid lie. Rand Paul was physically attacked because he an his neighbor had a beef over lawn care. (Not that that excuses the neighbor, he was acting like an eighth grader, but don't make it more than it was, a couple of rich assholes acting like 13 year olds.)

pacwest said...

So the Dems will spend our money to make the unions happy. Its a contract negotiation ploy to raise all union wages.

Nationalized AB5. Union dues from gig economy workers. That's where the money is ar.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The pro-war GOP needs to go. That includes Liz Cheney.

Freder Frederson said...

The pro-war GOP needs to go. That includes Liz Cheney.

Sheesh, you people are fickle. I remember a time when you loved the war, illegal detentions and torture, and Dick Cheney.

Iman said...

(Not that that excuses the neighbor, he was acting like an eighth grader, but don't make it more than it was, a couple of rich assholes acting like 13 year olds.)

I can’t remember the last time I’d read about an 8th grader breaking someone’s ribs... piss off, scheister.

donald said...

It’s kinda neat that the anti-war party is the republicans huh? Party of the working man? That’s right. The party of Trump. Who wants to keep the darkies down? That’s right. The party of Pelosi and Biden.

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Clayton Hennesey said...

Why it's too late to wish the impeachment would just go away:

https://www.aleksandreia.com/2021/02/06/the-wonderful-trump-bill-of-attainder-tar-baby-story/

walter said...

"attacked because he an his neighbor had a beef over lawn care. "
I'm sure that was the extent of it.
But, if you prefer, we can talk about the Scalise shooting Paul was at and the swarm of thugs threatening Rand and wife after that White House event.

Todd said...

donald said...

It’s kinda neat that the anti-war party is the republicans huh? Party of the working man? That’s right. The party of Trump. Who wants to keep the darkies down? That’s right. The party of Pelosi and Biden.

2/8/21, 12:49 PM


Well that last bit has been the Democratic Party position since its founding.

BUMBLE BEE said...

We all want justice but you gotta have the money to buy it... (Oh Lucky Man, Alan Price)
https://amgreatness.com/2021/02/04/americas-political-prisoners-first/

walter said...

Remember the guy in Portland shouting "We got a Trumper.." before shooting him dead?
Just another unfortunate event memory-holed by the shadowy cabal saving us.

Rabel said...

If not for Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton would be one month into her second term.

Gusty Winds said...

Amadeus 48 said...Ron Johnson is one of the best senators. When he beat Russ Feingold (who believed he was owed a Senate seat) twice, I was delighted both times.

Ron Johnson is an honest rock star, but we also have his antithesis Tammy Baldwin in the other Senate seat.

I have full confidence that Madison and Milwaukee WI will rig the 2022 elections to show Johnson the door, and reinstate our Kenosha Burning Beta-Cuck Dictator Tony Evers as Governor. They’ve successfully done in once for sure, more than likely twice (Walker defeat 2018), and they will do it again.

At least Wisconsin still has Brandy Ol’ Fashioned and Friday Night Fish Fry.

Gusty Winds said...

Blogger gadfly said...

Sorry Windy - I searched and searched for Dick Cheney's murderous past but the best I could find came from The Onion:.

You know Gadfly, acting stupid is a greater sign of actual stupidity that being stupid itself.

320Busdriver said...

Blogger Gusty Winds said...

So now we have the corrupt Wisconsin Election Commission assuring us none of those 200K people voted. If so, why not clean it up? We're fucked. There will be no more free and fair elections.

Actually, the WEC has stated last week (Meghan Wolf)that they won’t even get around to looking into whether there was vote fraud which can be identified using ERIC, the electronic registration information center, until sometime this summer. Same for felon voters.

Audio of her statement found 28 minutes in on last Thursdays Dan O’Donnell show.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-dan-odonnell-show-27550539/episode/wisconsin-admits-it-had-an-issue-77151749/

Don’t worry. The WEC is on the job trying to find fraud in our elections /s

320Busdriver said...

At least Wisconsin still has Brandy Ol’ Fashioned and Friday Night Fish Fry.

And by extension, Charlie Berens & Manitowoc Minute, donchaknow!

I Callahan said...

But with Biden's unionist appointments to the Department of Labor - $15/hr minimums are just around the corner nationally except for servers, whose tips percentage will drop when kitchen help cost increases raise restaurant prices.

So the Dems will spend our money to make the unions happy. Its a contract negotiation ploy to raise all union wages.


And you anti-Trumpers are a big part of the reason this is happening. Own it.

And yes, I'll be reminding you of this every single time you post something complaining about the current administration.

StephenFearby said...

Hot Air

"Attorneys for former President Donald Trump on Monday argued in a new brief that the Senate should quickly dismiss the impeachment article filed against him when his trial begins this week.

The 78-page document amounts to a more detailed version of the arguments presented in a filing last week.."

IV. [The suscinct] CONCLUSION

The Article of Impeachment presented by the House is unconstitutional for a variety of reasons, any of which alone would be grounds for immediate dismissal. Taken together, they demonstrate conclusively that indulging House Democrats hunger for this political theater is a danger to our Republic democracy and the rights that we hold dear. Reasons for dismissal include:

1. The Senate of the United States lacks jurisdiction over the 45th President because he holds no public office from which he can be removed, and the Constitution limits the authority of the Senate in cases of impeachment to removal from office as the prerequisite active remedy allowed the Senate under our Constitution.

2. The Senate of the United States lacks jurisdiction over the 45th President because he holds no public office from which he can be removed rendering the Article of Impeachment moot and a non-justiciable question.

3. Should the Senate act on the Article of Impeachment initiated in the House of Representatives, it will have passed a Bill of Attainder in violation of Article 1,Sec. 9. Cl. 3 of the United States Constitution.

4. The allegations in the Article of Impeachment are self-evidently wrong, as demonstrated by the evidence including the transcript of the President’s actual speech, and the allegations fail to meet the constitutional standard for any crime, let alone an impeachable offense.

5. The House of Representatives deprived the 45th President of due process of law in rushing to issue the Article of Impeachment and by ignoring its own procedures and precedents going back to the mid-19th century. The lack of due process included, but was not limited to, its failure to conduct any meaningful committee review or other investigation, engage in any full and fair consideration of evidence in support of the Article, as well as the failure to conduct any full and fair discussion by allowing the 45th President’s positions to be heard in the House Chamber. No exigent circumstances under the law were present excusing the House of Representatives’ rush to judgment, as evidenced by the fact that they then held the Article for another 12 days.

6. The Article of Impeachment violates the 45th President’s right to free speech and thought guaranteed under the First Amendment to the UnitedStatesConstitution.

7. The Article is constitutionally flawed in that it charges multiple instances of allegedly impeachable conduct in a single article.

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2021/02/08/breaking-trump-lawyers-file-demand-dismissal-impeachment-trial/

I'm particular to the Bill of Attainder thingy because Senators (being mostly lawyers) SHOULD KNOW that they're not supposed to commit a blatantly illegal action.

Which someday may very well come back to bite them in the behind.

n.n said...

Democrats are behaving like people who not only know they cheated, but know everybody knows they cheated.

They have a conscience that even their selective, opportunistic, relativistic ("ethical") quasi-religion, and exquisite rationalization skills, will not grant solace? Progress. The tell-tale hearts beat ever louder.

Skippy Tisdale said...

inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy

Assumes facts not in evidence.

walter said...

Gadfly,
Did you vote in the prez election?
Hands still clean?

Ken B said...

Trump should testify. Then the Democrats can impeach him for that.

Martin said...

They are realizing that it they are giving him a platform and are regretting it.

Chick said...

If you are thinking the country maybe is Done with Trump, you may be thinking of the wrong country.

tcrosse said...

I doubt that Trump is Done with the Country.

Mr Wibble said...

They are realizing that it they are giving him a platform and are regretting it.

He's not trapped in there with the Dems.
The Dems are trapped in there with HIM.

wendybar said...

Todd said-"Sorry but from were I am sitting, that was tried for at least 12 years. We were told "elections have consequences" and to basically sit down, shut up, and do what you are told. The teaparty was born and they were called every name in the book. We then watched the administration's illegalities being ignored by the press and those tagged with upholding the law. After 8 years of that, Trump got elected. We then went through 4 years of #RESIST and that we are all racist, homophobic, deplorable, etc.

Enough people (and fraud) wanted Trump gone that we now have BadTouchBiden and calls for #Unity. Well sorry. I can remember back more that 15 minutes. All of those liberal/Democrat/progressives now calling for unity can shove it up their asses. To them I say WE SEE YOU and we won't forget. So, sorry, no unity this term because their definition of "unity" is their foot on our necks forever.

2/8/21, 11:49 AM"


THIS!!!THIS!!!THIS!!!

Jim at said...

The simple fact is that Trump is very likely to get away with inciting an insurrection against Congress and American democracy...

Why do these people continue to lie about something that never, fucking happened?

I repeat. It. Didn't. Happen.

Stop saying it did.

Curious George said...

"Why do these people continue to lie about something that never, fucking happened?"

Because it forward their cause, and there is no penalty for it. Come on man!

Temujin said...

Gail Collins. Still on the payroll. It's like having a tenured position when you're a 60's era leftist columnist at the NYT.

wendybar said...

Freder Frederson said..."Quit spreading this stupid lie. Rand Paul was physically attacked because he an his neighbor had a beef over lawn care. (Not that that excuses the neighbor, he was acting like an eighth grader, but don't make it more than it was, a couple of rich assholes acting like 13 year olds.)"

2/8/21, 12:39 PM
Now do the time he and other Republicans were SHOT at by a deranged Bernie Bro who was probably pissed off by the rhetoric of the toxic left...and you ALSO forgot to mention the time he and his wife were attacked by Antifa and BLM in DC and saved by the Police after the Republican National Convention. Why is okay for Antifa and BLM to attack congressmen??? Were they trying to murder him for AOC??? (is that how this game is played??)

Interested Bystander said...

>>> 2/8/21, 8:36 AM

Reminds me of the old joke:

"The food here is terrible!"
"I know, and the portions are so small!"

2/8/21, 8:50 AM<<<

Or, “She may be ugly but she’s fat.”

Earnest Prole said...

the elite wish the impeachment would just please go away?

Elites and Deplorables are finally on the same page -- Hell has truly frozen over.

mockturtle said...
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mockturtle said...

The Left can take their unity and shove it up their collective asses [or arses, if they're British].

pacwest said...

Why do these people continue to lie about something that never, fucking happened?

That's easy. Division. The Democratic party is the party of division, and they need to keep the hate level high. It's also why they keep bringing up the white supremacy boogieman. Keep the country divided, import more voters for their side = power. Unity my ass.

Them damn deplorables don't want to join with us. Well, you at least see we tried to unite the country. Obviously the Republican's fault. They deserve our scorn.

If Pelosi wanted unity she might start by taping the pages of Trump's SOTU speech back together.

Most amazing to me is that people actually fall for it.

Ken B said...

What Freder won’t tell you is the neighbor was mad at Rand Paul for his politics long before he was mad at him for lawn stuff. Freder is like those guys who insist the civil war wasn’t about slavery because the first shots were about a fort.

Ken B said...

Pacwest
No the Democrats are not the party of division, they are the party of “United in conquest”. They mean to conquer you. You are mistaking their rallying cries for taunts.

mockturtle said...

Nicole Wallace of MSNBC is calling for drone strikes against us 'domestic terrorists' who supported Trump. It's on Youtube if you want to watch the clip. Link

MadisonMan said...

It's only a short year since the last impeachment. Remember that?

Skippy Tisdale said...

If Trump asked me how to win again. I would run on being impeached twice. They are about to give him super powers. They just aren’t smart enough to see it.

"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

tim in vermont said...

" a couple of rich assholes acting like 13 year olds.”

Look how Rand Paul get’s his name muddied and dragged down to the same level as the deranged Democrat who attacked him.

tim in vermont said...

Does the New York Times have any shame?

It’s a rhetorical question.

pacwest said...

Ken,
'Divide and Conquer' was probably the slogan you were reaching for.

Ken B said...

Pacwest
Nope. “Divide and conquer” is a plan for how to treat your enemies: foment division within their ranks. But the division being discussed is between Pelosi's team and the red team. She isn’t dividing the red team, she is rallying the rest of the country against them.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

There used to be an antique shop on east Colfax called: Decorables and Antiques.

I just called it "Deplorables and Antiques" - lol.
carry on.

tim in vermont said...

Still pisses me off that a no talent hack like Gail Collins has such a high profile high prestige job. It’s proof that America’s days of even paying lip service to merit are over.

Howard said...

Thanks Q. Sandburg failed to make it in the form of a question, but the bones are there.

Howard said...

Trump sure has grabbed you people by the pussy and you let him do it because celebrity shines his limelight into your dark heart.

Rosalyn C. said...

It's not so much that the country is done with Trump, it's that the country is done with politics. The impeachment (again) just is like listening to a broken record, it's boring and irritating. Focusing on the impeachment, like sucking on an old bone, is also a reminder of how uninteresting Biden is.

And the last thing I want to do is to have to think about Joe Biden. Even that Time Magazine article about how the voting public was manipulated by a cabal couldn't get traction.

Gospace said...

So I went to hotair and read the synopsis from cnncom @Analysis: Millions who likely voted for Trump want him barred from future office “.


Oh, really? I screamed “BS!” really loud in my head since there was no one around to share the I Dr. idiocy with.

Anyone who believes that because they saw it in a CNN headline, well, P.T. Barnum said there’s one born every minute. No one at CNN who contributed to that drivel believes it. There is the remote possibility they really are delusional enough to think that’s possible. Looks to me like they’re trying to influence Republican senator’s getting entirely different feedback from their likely voter base- which will vote for their primary opponent if they vote to convict.

bbear said...

pacwest said...

"... the unmitigated disaster the Biden? administration is going to be. 'Jobs, we don't need no stinkin jobs.' ..."


As a general service to people drawn to this line, spoken by Alphonso Bedoya in the movie Treasure of the Sierra Madre, he is in fact grammatically correct throughout. He says "don't need ANY stinkin' badges," not "no stinkin' badges." The great dj Al Jazzbeaux Collins used to point out that it's invariably misquoted, and that's a pet peeve of mine too...

tim in vermont said...

I still think that the Babylon Bee is front runner for winning the Internet this year with their Biden book “If I Rigged It” right before the “We Rigged It and How” article came out in Time Magazine.

Not that it wasn’t obvious to anybody with enough IQ points to flip a light switch, but that story rubbing our noses in it was the coup de grace to American democracy. Welcome to post democratic America. What difference does it make how they keep the voters’ choice out of office, sham election or sham trial, it’s all the same.

tim in vermont said...

"The great dj Al Jazzbeaux Collins used to point out that it's invariably misquoted”

Did. he ever see The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance? The misquote is better. Just like “Play it again Sam."

tim in vermont said...

"shines his limelight into your dark heart.”

Howard knows what’s in everybody’s heart because CNN and the New York Times told him. Or was it Samantha Bee?

pacwest said...

bbear,
Thanks, I'll do better next time:)

bbear said...

Blogger tim in vermont said...

"The great dj Al Jazzbeaux Collins used to point out that it's invariably misquoted”

Did. he ever see The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance? The misquote is better. Just like “Play it again Sam."


I don't know, Tim. Jazzbeaux died some years ago, so you'll have to ask him yourself. But you might be right, mah brotha ;~)...

bbear said...

tim in vermont said...

Still pisses me off that a no talent hack like Gail Collins has such a high profile high prestige job. It’s proof that America’s days of even paying lip service to merit are over.

2/8/21, 3:43 PM


You mighta latched on to something with that lip service trope, if you catch my drift. Seems to me Ole Gail wrote a humor column for the Times in the misty long ago. Wasn't funny, and it occurred to me to wonder if she was, well, paying it to Hiz Wokeness Pinch Sulzberger...

buster said...

It wasn't an insurrection and Trump didn't incite it.

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