January 14, 2021

"'There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law.' Those words are as true today as when Abraham Lincoln spoke them."

"As I said last summer when mob violence gripped our streets, so I say again about the mob violence at our nation’s Capitol last week: those persons responsible should be held accountable in the courts to the full extent of the law. The House has passed an article of impeachment against the president, but the Senate under its rules and precedents cannot start and conclude a fair trial before the president leaves office next week. Under these circumstances, the Senate lacks constitutional authority to conduct impeachment proceedings against a former president."

Tom Cotton says, in a statement (which I'm quoting in full).

"The Founders designed the impeachment process as a way to remove officeholders from public office—not an inquest against private citizens. The Constitution presupposes an office from which an impeached officeholder can be removed. Fidelity to the Constitution must always remain the lodestar for our nation. Last week, I opposed the effort to reject certified electoral votes for the same reason—fidelity to the Constitution—I now oppose impeachment proceedings against a former president. Congress and the executive branch should concentrate entirely for the next week on conducting a safe and orderly transfer of power. After January 20, Congress should get on with the people’s business: improving our vaccination efforts, getting kids back to school, and getting workers back on the job."

Click on my "Tom Cotton" tag. Tom Cotton is getting a lot of things right. 

Remember the poll I had on November 23? "Trump voters only please: If you had to pick the 2024 GOP nominee right now: Trump/Tom Cotton." I said, "My poll, my options — do your own poll if you don't like the constraints." Tom Cotton looked like the most apt alternative to me at the time. And you Trump voters who answered the poll — or whoever answered the poll — chose Cotton over Trump, 55% to 45%. Let me see how that choice is holding up:

Trump voters only please: If you had to pick the 2024 GOP nominee right now:
 
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Ken B said...

Drago
Good catch. C would be hilarious if we weren’t already laughing at him.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"'There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law.'

I call bullshit"

Agree. There's a shit-ton of legitimate grievances that were only ever redressed by mob law. Not saying it's optimal but, Jesus, get real.

Dr Weevil said...

I should make a bet with the kind of asshole who has been repeatedly asked to leave someone else's living room, but insists on staying and shitting on the floor, as if such a swine could be trusted to pay his debts? No thanks. Anyone else is welcome to gloat, starting next Wednesday at noon, if it turns out I'm wrong, but our anonymous swine can go fuck himself either way.

Yancey Ward said...

Of course you won't, Chuck, because you literally can't do it. And you can't do it because it can't be done. I voted for Cruz in the 2016 primaries, but I knew that had he been the candidate he would have lost all the midwest states including Ohio, and likely would have lost Florida, too. Jeb!! would have won Florida and, maybe, Ohio, but nothing else in the midwest- same for Rubio. Kasich would have lost Florida and every state in the midwest except for Ohio.

This is the reality of the demographic changes that have occurred over the last 20 years- states that have a Republican lean amount to less than 240 electoral votes, and the trend is getting worse, not better.

Rusty said...

Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
"Face it: Y'all, are fine with living in a lawless immoral world.

I've said that since the day I got here."
Careful with those. ya'lls. I'm not a member of any group that would have me.

Ken B said...

Dr Weevil
I will take a small wager.

Yancey Ward said...

Trump is likely sui generis- the only candidate the Republicans could put up that can compete in the midwest. Every other candidate would be limited to Mitt Romney's 2012 take of states plus Florida and, maybe, Ohio- tops.

Chuck said...

You got a good vision of the future, Chuck, when the Democrats took both GA seats by comfortable margins. Thats the future of the GOP.


Most Trumpists love the polling firm, Trafalgar Group. Strongly pro-Trump. Cahaly had both GA seats being held by the Republicans until Trump's $2000 pp idea, and his veto of the NDAA. Then, he says, the numbers fell like "falling off a cliff." He called the final GA numbers almost exactly. (Unlike the Trump-Biden general.) I think GA is Cahaly's home state.

First-rate Trump Political Malpractice.

tim maguire said...

Dr. Weevil, are you a fan of that guy, I can't think of his name--he was banned from twitter a couple years ago, used to bill himself as the world's foremost authority on WWI flamethrowers--he was famous for long convoluted, carefully reasoned with extensive footnotes and impeccable logic, conspiracy theories that were batshit crazy and never came true, but his followers never stopped believing in him. He was a great read, but not one to be taken seriously by serious people.

There is no imaginable circumstance under which Trump begins his second term next week.

Chuck said...

Anyone else is welcome to gloat, starting next Wednesday at noon, if it turns out I'm wrong...


I think it is mean of you to deny me that pleasure. But I'll gloat anyway.

There's no record of me paying up on a bet made on these comments pages. Because I have never lost a bet made on these comments pages.

3-0. I'd like to make it 4-0 with you.

Ken B said...

Most likely there will never be another Republican president, unless it’s Pence this week.

How Saxon kings since Harold?

Yancey Ward said...

Chuck, you are just a damned fool. The seats were lost the moment Trump wasn't at the top of the ticket any longer. The GOP might have salvaged the seats if they had insisted on enforcing the law in regards to absentee voting, but they didn't do that and just handed the two seats to the Democrats on a platter. If they had just acted after the November election to force a real audit of the absentee signatures, Perdue would never have had to enter the runoff. You can't blame this loss on Trump- the Georgia GOP holds all the blame.

D.D. Driver said...

So his team puts on the whole "the election was stolen" defense that no court has allowed.

Just popping in to Myth Bust.

At least one Court was willing to take up the merits when when the issue is presented in a procedurally proper manner. But...Trump's legal team did not want to go forward.

tim maguire said...

Yancey Ward said...This is the reality of the demographic changes that have occurred over the last 20 years- states that have a Republican lean amount to less than 240 electoral votes, and the trend is getting worse, not better.

Which is why Trump presents (yes, present tense) such a threat, and why all stops were pulled out to remove hm. Politics have realigned in this country. Today, the Democrats are the party of billionaires and giant corporations, while the Republicans are the party of the middle class, the strivers, the people who need stability to pay their rent and keep putting food on the table.

Republican incompetence has allowed Democrats to continue snatching up votes they haven't earned from people who simply never thought of going somewhere else. Trump made them think of going somweehwere else. The real trend is towards Dems getting 100% of the vote within a 5-mile radius of a university and losing everywhere else. All the Republicans need is a standard bearer not afraid to say it.

And you saw it in this election--they have ever more dominance over an ever smaller plot of land

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Dr Weevil said...

Here's hoping Meade comes along soon to take out the trash.

A few months ago, I made a 10-point list of things Trump needs to do when (or 'if', if you like) he's reinaugurated. Most were obvious: clean up elections, prosecute the Russian hoaxers and election-thieves, and so on. One has become a lot more obviously necessary in the last 8 days: "Crush Google / Twitter / Amazon / Facebook."

Yesterday, I realized I'd forgotten one: "11. Publish the real names and addresses of every troll paid to fuck up Trump-friendly websites, and tell us exactly who paid them and how much. Prosecute any who failed to include these earnings on their tax forms."

Yancey Ward said...

Seriously, the various GOP party echelons in state after state hold most of the blame for what has happened. It isn't like universal absentee voting had to be a thing in WI, MI, or PA- all of those legislatures let it happen, and the GOP controlled all of them. Same goes for AZ and GA, and the GOP in NC tried to lose those races, too.

It is mail in voting from now going forward- the Democrats will never let go of this method of voting, and everywhere it is enacted, the GOP becomes uncompetitive.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Ted Cruz

Gospace said...

In addition to quodverum where qanon is banned, voxday, where qanon is not only not banned but welcome, also believes Biden will not be inaugurated on 20 January. They approach that conclusion using different “evidence”. After 2020 and the highly improbable vote distribution I’m not going to rule anything out until 21 January. But I’m planning on Biden being inaugurated followed a few months later by a massive gun confiscation attempt ruled constitutional by an 8-5 vote of the Supreme Court,

Shortly thereafter is when the next Civil War starts.

Rabel said...

Why do you feed the troll. That's what he wants. Why not just meet up with him and suck his dick, Yancy?

Yancey Ward said...

Go back and look at the 2004 election- it is the last election a Republican candidate won a majority of the popular vote, and Bush only got 286 electoral votes while winning the popular vote by 2.4%. Of the states he won in 2004, Colorado, Virginia, Nevada, and New Mexico- totalling 33 electoral votes are now fully blue states- states a Republican wouldn't win even if they won the popular vote. In fact, no states have turned red in the intervening years- none.

Chuck said...

Yancey Ward said...
Seriously, the various GOP party echelons in state after state hold most of the blame for what has happened. It isn't like universal absentee voting had to be a thing in WI, MI, or PA- all of those legislatures let it happen, and the GOP controlled all of them. Same goes for AZ and GA, and the GOP in NC tried to lose those races, too.


False. Universal no-excuse absentee voting in Michigan occurred as a result of the GOP legislature's absolutely opposing it, and it turning into a ballot initiative. It was on the ballot in 2018 in Michigan. We Republicans opposed it; campaigned against it. I voted against it. It won easily. It won easily, in the 2018 Trump-backlash Blue Wave election in Michigan. Where we lost the governorship (Whitmer beat the Trump-annointed Bill Schuette), the AG (again another Trumpist Republican got whacked), and the Secretary of State's office. Even worse, the same Trump-backlash Blue Wave election produced another ballot-initiative win; a redistricting commission. Republicans have been getting slaughtered in Michigan since Trump won the state by less than 11,000 votes in 2016.

tim in vermont said...

Democrats are all about election security. When was the last time Republicans won statewide office in Washington, right about the time they introduced universal vote by mail, same thing happened in Colorado. They want to make all audits of election processes secret.

https://twitter.com/AK4WA/status/1349775957448486912

Anybody who questions this is “unhinged."

Michael K said...

Rabel, one click next to the name collapses the comment. Takes a second.

I agree that engaging with him makes him more frequent and just as obnoxious.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Yancey - I love ya man - but you might want to read this post by meade...


that I currently cannot find.

anyone?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...
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Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I live in CO. voting is a mess.

You sign an envelope and they toss the envelope.
Ballots everywhere. ballots left in apt buildings...
the dems now want to take a step further & flood the zone with ballots to all - you don't even need to register.
They are already going to attempt to kill the way we vote state by state and go to a Russian style vote system where populated states pick the winner.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Late night TV - Kimmel and Colbert - democrat party TV

Big Tech - Democrat party operatives

media - non-curious democrat party machine.

Rabel said...

If no one engages the freak he will wither and die. People continue to support him by responding despite knowing that you cannot win an argument with a liar.

Yancey's a great commenter but enough is enough. We have been asked over and over and over not to engage, yet people continue. He is causing her problems beyond simply being an annoying ass. And here, Yancey practically had a dinner date with him in this post.

All I can do to help as a supporter of the blog is to call out the offenders by name without fear or favor.

Yesterday I was polite about it but, no. No more.

Chuck said...

I'd urge everybody to follow three basic Althouse rules.

1. Stay on-topic.
2. Try to be interesting. Really, do more than try; BE interesting.
3. No personal attacks.

If everybody did those things, moderation would be a no-brainer.

stevew said...

There's only one, or a couple, of us being moderated out.

I was disappointed that Cotton seemed to abandon Trump and the questioning of the validity of the Nov election. However I see now that he did so for principled reasons, not craven political advantage. As a voter I respect him for that; it makes him predictable and someone to be relied upon. I would vote for him.

readering said...

I could not face reading a book about the 2016 election. Too painful. Now I think I will. Recommendations?

readering said...

Unfortunately, in light of (3), my memory of the three AA basic rules, as articulated this week, is:

1. No N word.
2. no threats.
3. No responding to Chuck comments (and maybe someone else too).

Ken B said...

Rendering
The libretto to Götterdamerung.

Rabel said...

Our future President is speaking now.

Is that a fever blister?

Inga said...

Stop arguing with each other. Biden is giving a great speech.

Marcus Bressler said...

Patrick: How does being gay make one an attractive candidate?

Me: I guess for the same reason a woman or a black are presupposed by the MSM to be better candidates: they are not white heterosexual males. It's just checking a box.

THEOLDMAN

Inga said...

Good plan President Biden, get it done as soon as able. No excuses.

daskol said...

“ONCE WE FOUND OUT PENCE TURNED ON US... WE BECAME A MOB”.... quite a statement from Alabama man arrested in US Capitol chaos, per court docs

Statement from a domestic terrorist

daskol said...

Lots of things happened, including agents provocateurs. But Pence with his running out the clock and then pretending he had no other option, well, that's mighty disappointing if you believe a thorough investigation would reveal big problems with the vote. Trump is being impeached by the same people celebrating Pence, who did more to inflame Trump's supporters 1/6 than Trump. It's a never ending pile of turd.

Shouting Thomas said...

@Inga,

I’m not going to do it, because I’m not an asshole like you, but I hope Republicans step forward to harass, sue, defame and in general drive China Joe insane.

Then, we we regain power I want Republicans to use secret police and electronic surveillance to make your life miserable.

You deserve to be hounded into hell. Turnabout is fair play.

Rosalyn C. said...

I'm beginning to think Yancey is a little insane too. I had a couple of neighbors who were both completely batshit nuts who were constantly at each others' throats, doing horrible things to hurt each other but not quite enough to get them evicted, and causing a lot of stress for everyone else. Yancey and Chuck are similarly kind of a team. How about you guys go off somewhere else and do your thing? Like exchange email addresses?

Drago said...

Banned Commenter, who was Banned, LLR-lefty and marxist candidate endorser Chuck: "I'd urge everybody to follow three basic Althouse rules.

1. Stay on-topic.
2. Try to be interesting. Really, do more than try; BE interesting.
3. No personal attacks.

If everybody did those things, moderation would be a no-brainer."

Discuss.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Russia Russia Inga is the female Chuck.

She hates us and calls us loons - but somehow we are supposed to give a shit about what she says to us.

Biden is a corrupt asshole.

Rabel said...

And he sucked you right in, Drago.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Chuck said...
She would have inherited the same rocking economy that Trump enjoyed, but the same pandemic

Bzzt

Trump "inherited" an economy going into recession, and turned it around.

but, so what? We know Biden stole the election. You think President Hillary would have stole it less?

walter said...

Banned commenter! offers guidelines.
2021

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

If I were Alhouse - I'd ban Chuck and Inga.
Basic creep factor disposal button.

Recall when Ann was controlling who posted?
Russia Russia inga was gone.

wow - that was nice.

I prefer honest leftists like Robert Cook.

Rabel said...

It must be like pharmaceutical grade cocaine.

Drago said...

After 4 years of advancing hoax dossier/hiax russia collusion claims, readering says: "I could not face reading a book about the 2016 election. Too painful. Now I think I will."

But you already know the 2016 election story.

In fact, you and Inga and LLR-lefty Chuck have been regaling us with fever-pitch tales of 2016 spying and russians changing votes and collusion and treasonous traitors doing treasonous things for 4+ years now.

What is it that now causes you to rethink your 4+ years of lies?

Oh, thats right.

History reset this morning, again, so any discussions of electoral shenanigans is now verboten.

Its gone so far that Inga has recently claimed she had no memory whatsoever of any democrats claiming russian collusion in 2016 and beyond.

It was quite a performance.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I think Meade deleted his post - but he asked, kindly, that we not feed troll Chuck and stated clearly that Chuck was out to hurt this blog.

I believe it based on his own admission that he is working with the Lincoln Project on blacklists of anyone who ever worked with Trump.

Drago said...

Rabel: "And he sucked you right in, Drago."

Perhaps not.

Lets see what happens next......

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I like Yancey's posts a great deal.
Spot on most of the time - even thought it's depressing.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

though#

Rick said...

I believe it based on his own admission that he is working with the Lincoln Project on blacklists of anyone who ever worked with Trump.

It wasn't generic blacklists. He admitted reporting the Althouse blog to Blogger / Google.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Rick - wow.
Chuck is a wicked democrat.
He'll fit right in with Biden and Pelosi.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

One of my newest favorite Inga-isms is her claiming she never called Carter Page a russian spy and anyone suggesting otherwise was a loony conspiracist.

According to Inga, she never did any such thing.

Such demonstrations of split personality disorders can often be jarring for observers.

John Clifford said...

Tom Cotton has the agenda without the baggage. He's a Harvard graduate who served in Iraq. He's brave and will stand up for himself, but doesn't engage in provocation. And, he's hated by the right people. We could do a lot worse, and we will for the next four years.

Inga said...

“I believe it based on his own admission that he is working with the Lincoln Project on blacklists of anyone who ever worked with Trump.’

April can’t help herself from mentioning Chuck despite Althouse’s request.

Drago said...

Banned Commenter, who was Banned, Inga: "April can’t help herself from mentioning Chuck despite Althouse’s request."

Discuss.

n.n said...

drive China Joe insane.

Then, we we regain power I want Republicans to use secret police and electronic surveillance to make your life miserable.

You deserve to be hounded into hell. Turnabout is fair play.


With the CCP evolving in common cause, in consultation with Western leftists, from the Great Leap to one-child to selective-child and NOW concentration/reeducation camps for their deplorables, all's fair in lust and abortion, I suppose. Perhaps a "fog of war" defense.

That said, Pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I mention him but I am not engaging with him,..

do you understand the difference ? Bidenist corruption-excusing Russia Russia Inga?

I wish I weren't engaging with you - troll.

Rosalyn C. said...

Inga also claimed that Democrats were going to be totally tolerant and accepting of diverse points of view because that's how liberals are. Then Twitter cancelled Trump and everyone who supported him, Facebook cancelled any discussion about the election dispute, Youtube removed any videos on the election dispute, Amazon pulled the plug on the alternative to Twitter, Parler, people are calling for Trump supporters to be blacklisted, etc.

I assumed we hadn't heard from her for a few days while that purge of Conservative voices was taking place because #embarrassing. It's OK that Inga was wrong. She then returned and proceeded as if nothing has happened. That's OK too.

What I don't get is why some people here who are otherwise extremely intelligent nonetheless think they can change anyone's minds or fix them. #1 it's impossible to change anyone's mind but your own, #2 you're not responsible for anyone else's path or beliefs. You aren't being cold hearted by leaving them alone. I'm sharing these lessons on detachment which I learned personally.

By detaching from these toxic addictions we can free up the comments to explore many other things which may be more interesting and pleasant for everyone.

DarigoldVanilla said...

To summarize, insurrection is OK for Democrats, but criminal for Republicans.

Why?

Ooh, ooh pick me, I got this one.

That’s a false equivalence.
Are you trying to describe Trump’s election fraud lies?
This Capitol qanon coup is unprecedented and you know it.
Please show me where an elected Dem has ever stood in front of armed, violent thugs, whipped them into a frenzy with proven falsehoods and then directed them to march and focus their anger at stopping the execution of our constitutionally prescribed, republican principles.

stevew said...

So many smart people here that simply cannot bite their tongue and ignore the trolls. If not for me and the hosts do this for you: do not respond, do not engage, you fail every time you do simply because you legitimize with your response. Pick a fight with me, or anyone else, over something we post or about the topic.

We're counting on you!

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Banning Cuuk and Igor is for the common good.

Drago said...

stevew: "Pick a fight with me, or anyone else, over something we post or about the topic.

We're counting on you!"

I am getting a real Les Miserables vibe here.

Troll Avoiders Of The World Unite! You Have Nothing To Lose But Excess Moderation!!

Inga said...

“I assumed we hadn't heard from her for a few days while that purge of Conservative voices was taking place because #embarrassing. It's OK that Inga was wrong. She then returned and proceeded as if nothing has happened. That's OK too.”

My dear woman, I’ve been here everyday.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The Phony Feminism of Kamala Harris
Harris only cares about other women's rights when those rights don't conflict with her career ambitions.

Kamala Harris has long positioned herself as a feminist crusader. But both as attorney general of California and now as a member of the U.S. Senate, she has actively championed policies that deny women's agency, ratchet up female incarceration, and endanger those most vulnerable to sexual abuse. Along the way, she has shown an utter disregard for civil liberties and constitutional law—a tendency she will now get to take to the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee.

After reading that- it's understandable why Biden picked her.

I'm Not Sure said...

"Kamala Harris has long positioned herself as a feminist crusader."

Willie Brown unavailable for comment, I presume?

Rosalyn C. said...

@Inga, I'll have to take your word for it. Do you remember making that comment about how liberals are tolerant and would never blacklist anyone? Had to be about a week ago, right before Twitter banned Trump which happened 1/9/21. Were you surprised by what happened? Disappointed?

Tyrone Slothrop said...

Shit, I'm always late to these threads.

I have just three questions.

1) When does a mob become an army?

2) How long before we reach that point?

3) Will we then be legitimately redressing our grievances?

Narayanan said...

for a solon to mention mob law without explaining what it means is not very encouraging.

in philosophically explicit terms mob law = democracy aka cool headed lynching party

very confused thinking going on + intent to confuse listeners and possible supporters.

Tom said...

I’m probably always going to pick the person who can articulate principle and demonstrate the moral courage to apply that principle in difficult circumstances. I’m a sucker for that shit.

Inga said...

“Do you remember making that comment about how liberals are tolerant and would never blacklist anyone?”

No and it doesn’t sound like anything I would’ve said. But by all means feel free to find the comment you are referring to and repost it here.

Jamie said...

I don't understand how anyone could argue that an H. Clinton administration would have responded to COVID with an Operation Warpspeed. That proto-adminstration had not one bit of innovative thinking to it. The idea that a vaccine could be developed and tested in under a year would have been (was, in fact!) seen as "anti-science" - therefore impossible.

As for Middle East peace - considering the iron commitment of the entire Left, worldwide, to the "plight" of the Palestinians and the sense on the Left that no peace would be possible in the ME without redress of Palestinian grievances, I also don't see how anyone could believe that an H. Clinton administration would have made any inroads at all, even the above dismissively stated "flights for shoppers."

Do we need to discuss the reduction in rate of new regulations and the absolute reduction in old ones? Is anyone going to argue that H. Clinton would have done anything remotely like what Trump's administration did to address this?

Jamie said...

Oops, I was way OT. Sorry, got caught up in a side discussion, apparently.

n.n said...

in philosophically explicit terms mob law = democracy aka cool headed lynching party

Exactly. This is why America's founders established a Constitutional Republic with a Bill of Rights to mitigate dictatorial/democratic excess.

MeatPopscicle1234 said...

Heartless Aztec said...
Far more conservative than Trump - fiscally and Constitutionally - without the daily dumbassery.

1/14/21, 12:00 PM

————————-

Except we voted for Trump because he a street fighter who stands his ground and gives back as good as he gets, which is exactly what we need to fight back against the never ending schemes of the left. Typical GOP politicians just won’t cut it and get steam rolled and left bloody in a back-alley gutter every time...

The Crack Emcee said...

Inga said...
“Do you remember making that comment about how liberals are tolerant and would never blacklist anyone?”

No and it doesn’t sound like anything I would’ve said.

Tee-hee.

The Crack Emcee said...

Inga said...
“I assumed we hadn't heard from her for a few days while that purge of Conservative voices was taking place because #embarrassing. It's OK that Inga was wrong. She then returned and proceeded as if nothing has happened. That's OK too.”

My dear woman, I’ve been here everyday.

"and proceeded as if nothing has happened."

The Crack Emcee said...

Inga said...
“I believe it based on his own admission that he is working with the Lincoln Project on blacklists of anyone who ever worked with Trump.’

April can’t help herself from mentioning Chuck despite Althouse’s request.

Trying to sound like a voice of reason now - or like she's anymore wanted around here now.,

The Crack Emcee said...

Inga said...
Stop arguing with each other. Biden is giving a great speech.

In the foster homes, we would say of Inga "There's a fungus among us."

rcommal said...

Bad winners of primaries lead to bad choices of candidates.

That, all of that, is on primary voters.

rcommal said...

In other words: Wouldn’t it be better if primary voters made better choices?

Don said...

Tom is a liar or deluding himself. Very few people will be held responsible for the summers riots.

gadfly said...

Questions before the house now become:

If you are a "Trump voter only" how can Tom Cotton win this poll?

If Trump is convicted of Inciting Insurrection, how can he run for president again?

Was Tom Cotton's tongue slipping like Biden's when he said: 'As the Founding Fathers said, [slavery] was the necessary evil upon which the union was built.'?

Fernandinande said...

There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law.

Here's part of the speech (1838) that line came from (CRs added):

"In the Mississippi case, they first commenced by hanging the regular gamblers; a set of men, certainly not following for a livelihood, a very useful, or very honest occupation; but one which, so far from being forbidden by the laws, was actually licensed by an act of the Legislature, passed but a single year before.

Next, negroes, suspected of conspiring to raise an insurrection, were caught up and hanged in all parts of the State: then, white men, supposed to be leagued with the negroes; and finally, strangers, from neighboring States, going thither on business, were, in many instances subjected to the same fate.

Thus went on this process of hanging, from gamblers to negroes, from negroes to white citizens, and from these to strangers; till, dead men were seen literally dangling from the boughs of trees upon every road side; and in numbers almost sufficient, to rival the native Spanish moss of the country, as a drapery of the forest."

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

russia russia inga spent the last 4 years lying about Trump - which makes her a liar.

We all recall how the horrible things she said about Ann, the host.

I find it hard to believe Inga is allowed to post here.

Unknown said...

“High crimes and misdemeanors? This is their report, ladies and gentlemen. It’s 76 pages, 26 pages of which are an appendix, to news articles, to essays, to speeches by former colleagues. There’s not one sliver of evidence of inciting an insurrection of any kind in this document: 50 pages, basically, an Op-Ed.

“Historians are going to look at this and say, ‘What kind of a moron wrote a document like this?’ Has anybody read it? No.” -- Mark Levin

Sam L. said...

Howsomever, I'd still like to have Trump. He just makes those Dems SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!1111!!!!
Couldna happened to nicer guys, but the Dems...ain't NICE. They don't DU "nice".

ASG said...

In addition to the normal stuff, I’ll vote for someone who appears to care and plan to do something about election integrity. Not sure if that’s Cotton.

Tim said...

Democrats/Antifa/BLM etc get away with everything because the PRESS wants them to. If the Press went after the "in your face" voting fraud it would be uncovered.

Rusty said...

readering said...
"Unfortunately, in light of (3), my memory of the three AA basic rules, as articulated this week, is:

1. No N word.
2. no threats.
3. No responding to Chuck comments (and maybe someone else too)."
You forgot number 4.
no un-necessary paragraph breaks.

hstad said...

Sorry AA, your poll is an exercise in vacuous narratives. 2024 is a long time away, in political terms. This election will turn on what happens in 2022 elections. Is 2 years long enough for the voters to forget about what happened in 2020? Who knows? One thing I know is that past riots(1968) and radical groups (Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, etc.) have shown me that the politicians are worthless at solving major issues. Moreover, the World has a way of encroaching on our focus and SJW demands. The USA is quite naĂŻve as to what happens in most of the World. Trust me, history repeats itself. For example, now that the USA is self-sufficient in oil (net exporter as of this year due to shale) the country has no need to protect anyone in the Middle East. No more subsidization by the USA and its taxpayers of 'free trade'.
The World is returning to 'Empires' - take what you want economics - similar to before WW2. Consequently, we'll see the rise of conflict in Europe and the Far East (the World's historical conflict zones for 1,000s of years) between various nations. These nations have no options now that the USA has retrenched and doesn't care anymore. The World is also becoming an 'Old Age' home, except for countries like France, USA, India, etc., because the World is running out of young people - population Demographics is a bitch.

BrianE said...

No more Congress People!

We need doers, not professional debaters. At least a governor (of a large state, please, if you must.

Largo said...

@Readering:

//Then I read that she would not allow secret service detail to use any of the six toilets in her home, so...//

Where did you read that Readering?

(I am assuming you are not a bullshitter.)

Largo said...

FRIENDS:

Ignore the Troll

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