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November 25, 2020

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Michael K said...: States have to keep the signature envelopes for two years under federal law.

So, Pennsylvania is exempt?; 11/25/20, 7:01 PM
Achilles said...: So act 77 in Pennsylvania looks to be pretty obviously in abrogation of the Pennsylvania state Constitution.

This link is to a court filing in Pennsylvania where the judge has just enjoined certification of the election.

Apparently the rules for voting are written in the constitution in Pennsylvania and in order to amend those you have to amend the constitution there.

Apparently prior attempts to change voting were made through the amendment process and the court has in the past held that you have to do it this way. On the linked court filing there are dates and the citations start.

Doesn't look like Act 77 is constitutional and that means that mail in voting is not legal.

The entire PA election has no real chance of being certified.

The only chance it has in the Supreme Court is if Gorsuch or Kavanaugh go wobbly.

It has zero chance of being accepted by most of PA residents or by most voters in the United States.; 11/25/20, 7:02 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Here you go.

https://codes.findlaw.com/pa/title-25-ps-elections-electoral-districts/pa-st-sect-25-2621.html; 11/25/20, 7:07 PM
Achilles said...: mccullough said...

What a fucking joke.

The PA equal protection case by the Trump team is solid. The SC will likely vote 6-3 in their favor in that case.

The case I linked to above looks pretty solid too. They did not amend the PA constitution which is where who cn vote in PA is defined. So Act 77 looks dead and buried.

Nobody is getting the 20 PA electoral votes.

Chances this ends up in the House of representatives is greater than that of Biden being President.; 11/25/20, 7:07 PM
Marcus Bressler said...: Had to quit halfway through the posts: the usual trolls are masturbating furiously in hopes that we will be disgusted enough to stop challenging them. Biden may indeed become the next president, but it will be because of fraud, cheating and the like. You may like the results and deny the means, but that makes you pathetic as the Hostess.; 11/25/20, 7:08 PM
Qwinn said...: Even if what McCullough says is true about the Dominion thing, his response implicitly admits that the election code matters.

So please find me in that election code where they delegated to the Governor and judiciary how long mail in ballots could be accepted after election day, and where they delegated whether signature verification was required for mail in ballots.

And the fact that Wolf rejected having the bar codes on a ballot that marks them as legitimate, that doesn't raise an eyebrow at all, eh? Legislature delegated that bit, so that's all fine. If the Legislature didn't anticipate that those they delegated that power to would literally remove EVERY possible means of detection fraud, well, then they were just stupid and deserved it, right? No questions about what they did with that power can be considered legitimate.

You are a fucking joke indeed.; 11/25/20, 7:09 PM
The Gipper Lives said...: If you think you're going to install Polident-Erect Joe Biden the Chinese Poodle in the Oval Office on the fairy-tale votes of the Fictional-American Community, you better think again.

It ain't going down like that, Sugar Tits.; 11/25/20, 7:13 PM
Jupiter said...: I know this is hard to believe, so let me say it again. I have been reading lots of articles analyzing the election returns. All of them appear to be based on a single set of JSON files that some kid found on the NYTimes website. It is not certified by anyone, and would not be admissible in court. They say it is from Edison Research, but who knows? Understandably, Edison Research isn't saying anything. But none of this has anything to do with Dominion, except in that some of those purported votes would have been counted by Dominion software.

It appears there is no organized national data base of election counts. Nor do the States provide totals. The whole thing is just a sideways, trilingual, levitating clusterfuck, and how it has stayed airborne for 200+ years is a mystery that a lot of people are starting to look into. If anyone knows better, feel free to correct me.; 11/25/20, 7:14 PM
Chuck said...: rcocean said...
"Conservative Treehouse" has a good write up and a video regarding the Pennsylvania's legislature meeting on the massive vote fraud. Seems that a Pennsylvania judge just entered an injunction against certifying the results.

In other news, its seems that Trump won 29 of the 30 "bell-weather" counties in the swing states, but somehow lost the election. just evidence of massive fraud. will the R's fight now?

Thanx for asking!

Nope. Nobody who fears Rule 11 sanctions is going to "fight," when the fight means putting up moonbat theories in front of a United States District Court judge with no sense of humor.; 11/25/20, 7:17 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "The whole thing is just a sideways, trilingual, levitating clusterfuck, and how it has stayed airborne for 200+ years is a mystery that a lot of people are starting to look into."

Well, maybe it's time to look. How can anybody have a problem with that?; 11/25/20, 7:20 PM
Qwinn said...: Chuck:

"when the fight means putting up moonbat theories in front of a United States District Court judge with no sense of humor."

Article I , Section 4, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."

Our resident lefties are now labeling a plain english reading of the US Constitution as a "moonbat theory".; 11/25/20, 7:21 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "Our resident lefties are now labeling a plain english reading of the US Constitution as a "moonbat theory"."

Lefties have always considered plain english in the Constitution to be a moonbat theory if it keeps them from doing what they want to do. How else do you shoehorn "common sense gun control" into "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It's nothing new.; 11/25/20, 7:26 PM
Drago said...: Qwinn: "Our resident lefties are now labeling a plain english reading of the US Constitution as a "moonbat theory"."

Just wait until LLR-lefty Chuck and his lefty pals label it a crime against humanity.; 11/25/20, 7:28 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Family Grift Goes to the Heart of Biden's Integrity

I love it:

Here is the anti-corruption warning label tag to post on all of twitter/facebook censorship.

"In case there was any doubt that Facebook and Twitter are corruptly partisan, the social-media giants censored The Post’s story Wednesday on Hunter Biden’s e-mails suggesting he took cash for access to his father, Joe Biden."; 11/25/20, 7:29 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Relax, bruh.; 11/25/20, 7:30 PM
Qwinn said...: "Relax, bruh."

No worries, I'll fall into a fitful sleep a thousand times before you identify where in the election code the legislature delegated whether signature verification was required on mail in ballots, or when election day actually ends.

"Relax, bruh" is how you deflect from the fact that you have absolutely no answer to that.; 11/25/20, 7:35 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: relax and let the fraud wash over you...

the fact that the left nominated and ran with the most corrupt politician in ages and then used more fraud in the days following the election to drag his old corrupt ass across the finish line.... is just more relaxing bath salts.; 11/25/20, 7:35 PM
Achilles said...: This is the only PA constitution I could find.

It isn't on a government site. Not sure if it is real. Doesn't really read like a legal document.

There must be a lot of case law that I don't have access to.; 11/25/20, 7:38 PM
Qwinn said...: And now Deblasio is putting checkpoints over NY bridges. $1000 fine if you don't take two covid tests bracketing a 3 day quarantine if you enter NY.

"Show us your papers!"

Demanding private health information from random citizens massively violates every HIPAA law ever enacted.; 11/25/20, 7:42 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Everyone STOP TYPING!

Marcus has something really important to add:

“Biden may indeed become the next president, but it will be because of fraud, cheating and the like. You may like the results and deny the means, but that makes you pathetic as the Hostess.”

Would be a shame if such an interesting and original point wasn’t seen and acknowledged by everyone. Now everybody should type a message to Marcus telling him how he’s so smart and he has really interesting takes that are unique and not at all a regurgitation of everything all DJT people are saying and writing.; 11/25/20, 7:44 PM
Mr Wibble said...: The obvious solution is for PA, MI, and WI to give their votes to Jorgenson, allowing the Electoral College to sort it all out.

Plus, we'd get to see the circus freaks how that the Libertarian Party sends as electors.; 11/25/20, 7:46 PM
Qwinn said...: When something in the PA election code supports mccullough's position, he cites it as authoritative.

When something in the PA election code contradicts mccullough's position, he ignores it completely.

Replace "something in the PA election code" with "the US Constitution", and "mccullough's position" with "any position leftists want for at least the last 70 years", it still works perfectly.; 11/25/20, 7:49 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Relax, bruh is a polite way of saying you should calm down.

Your points about signature verification and accepting ballots after Election Day were spot on.

I just pointed out that even if the Pennsylvania Supreme Court had not usurped the Pennsylvania legislature’s role, Trump still lost Pennsylvania.

Too much ground to make up.

As far as the voting machines, the Pennsylvania legislature delegated the approval of them to the Secretary of the Commonwealth.

Drago believes I wrote it was delegated to the governor. But I never wrote that. Nor did I write anything else about what he accused me of misrepresenting. Drago is just upset that I keep pointing out information that contradicts what he believes. And, frankly, he’s pretty fucking lazy by not going to primary sources to find out information.

And even if somehow Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes were tossed aside, Biden still wins.

If Georgia’s 16 electoral votes were also tossed aside Biden still wins.

Trump would also need to get Wisconsin tossed aside as well.

Do we all agree, at least, that Biden won Michigan fair and square? Arizona?

Is there some limit to what states you think Trump actually lost?; 11/25/20, 7:51 PM
Qwinn said...: Hey! From mccullough's link! Check out the bit he decided wasn't important enough to quote:

(b) To examine and reexamine voting machines, and to approve or disapprove them for use in this state, in accordance with the provisions of this act. The secretary shall not approve any voting machine for any election, federal or state, in this Commonwealth, that does not comply with the requirements of section 301 of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 ( Public Law 107-252 , 42 U.S.C. § 15481 ). 1

That's a fairly massive omission there, innit? There was a limit to that delegation. Who wants to bet their entire credibility that it's a *given* that Dominion Voting systems (rejected by Texas and other states) "complies with the requirements of section 301 of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 "?

Such a given that it's perfectly okay to leave that out of the election code you're quoting. Doesn't suggest any intent to deceive the reader, no, not at all.; 11/25/20, 7:55 PM
Qwinn said...: "I just pointed out that even if the Pennsylvania Supreme Court had not usurped the Pennsylvania legislature’s role, Trump still lost Pennsylvania. Too much ground to make up."

Basing this on yard signs?; 11/25/20, 7:56 PM
Michael K said...: Ante desitter is playing the clown and posting a few non sequiturs as humor. Go away clown.; 11/25/20, 7:58 PM
Qwinn said...: A judge in Nevada is now permitting Trump's legal team to present evidence of voter fraud.

Meaning, until now, every judge in Nevada has DENIED Trump's legal team to present evidence of voter fraud.

Let that sink in, when lefties tell you that the way we know Trump's case is weak is because judges didn't accept their evidence.; 11/25/20, 7:59 PM
Drago said...: McCullough: "Drago believes I wrote it was delegated to the governor. But I never wrote that. Nor did I write anything else about what he accused me of misrepresenting. Drago is just upset that I keep pointing out information that contradicts what he believes."

I was asking a question. Nothing more. I took no position.

I stated explicitly that I had heard both Qwinn's position and your position articulated and also request the information which documented your claim of the delegation of authority from the PA legislature to the Governor. (I believe I wrote Governor)

If it wasn't delegated to the Governor but to another body, simply point it out.

I can see you are desperate for an online "win". That probably explains your mistake.; 11/25/20, 8:08 PM
Qwinn said...: Anyone else find it interesting that Nevada judges refused to let the Trump team present ANY of their evidence of voter fraud until after Nevada certified the results?

And now that evidence can be presented, lefties are arguing that now that results have been certified, they can't be overturned by the courts?

Convenient, innit?; 11/25/20, 8:09 PM
Darkisland said...: Achilles,

This seems to be the official Pennsylvania state government site.

The link goes to the section of the state constitution on elections.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=00&div=0&chpt=7

John Henry; 11/25/20, 8:13 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: In Pennsylvania, 1.8 million mail-in ballots went out, and 2.5 million came back in.

Yeah - that's not weird.; 11/25/20, 8:14 PM
Qwinn said...: Got a link for that one, BFTPFCP?; 11/25/20, 8:17 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Twitter has banned a COL. Doug Mastriano. He's an elected official in PA.

Why?; 11/25/20, 8:20 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Here you go. The part you left out.

We’re you trying to deceive us by not quoting in full section 15481 of Title 42 of the United States Code that was referenced in the Pennsylvania Election Code?

I’ll break it up in parts because it’s so long:

SEC. 301. <> VOTING SYSTEMS STANDARDS.

(a) Requirements.--Each voting system used in an election for
Federal office shall meet the following requirements:
(1) In general.--
(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the
voting system (including any lever voting system,
optical scanning voting system, or direct recording
electronic system) shall--
(i) permit the voter to verify (in a private
and independent manner) the votes selected by the
voter on the ballot before the ballot is cast and
counted;
(ii) provide the voter with the opportunity
(in a private and independent manner) to change
the ballot or correct any error before the ballot
is cast and counted (including the opportunity to
correct the error through the issuance of a
replacement ballot if the voter was otherwise
unable to change the ballot or correct any error);
and
(iii) if the voter selects votes for more than
one candidate for a single office--
(I) notify the voter that the voter
has selected more than one candidate for
a single office on the ballot;
(II) notify the voter before the
ballot is cast and counted of the effect
of casting multiple votes for the
office; and
(III) provide the voter with the
opportunity to correct the ballot before
the ballot is cast and counted.
(B) A State or jurisdiction that uses a paper ballot
voting system, a punch card voting system, or a central
count voting system (including mail-in absentee ballots
and mail-in ballots), may meet the requirements of
subparagraph (A)(iii) by--

[[Page 116 STAT.; 11/25/20, 8:24 PM
mccullough said...: 1705]]

(i) establishing a voter education program
specific to that voting system that notifies each
voter of the effect of casting multiple votes for
an office; and
(ii) providing the voter with instructions on
how to correct the ballot before it is cast and
counted (including instructions on how to correct
the error through the issuance of a replacement
ballot if the voter was otherwise unable to change
the ballot or correct any error).
(C) The voting system shall ensure that any
notification required under this paragraph preserves the
privacy of the voter and the confidentiality of the
ballot.
(2) Audit capacity.--
(A) In general.--The voting system shall produce a
record with an audit capacity for such system.
(B) Manual audit capacity.--
(i) The voting system shall produce a
permanent paper record with a manual audit
capacity for such system.
(ii) The voting system shall provide the voter
with an opportunity to change the ballot or
correct any error before the permanent paper
record is produced.
(iii) The paper record produced under
subparagraph (A) shall be available as an official
record for any recount conducted with respect to
any election in which the system is used.
(3) Accessibility for individuals with disabilities.--The
voting system shall--
(A) be accessible for individuals with disabilities,
including nonvisual accessibility for the blind and
visually impaired, in a manner that provides the same
opportunity for access and participation (including
privacy and independence) as for other voters;
(B) satisfy the requirement of subparagraph (A)
through the use of at least one direct recording
electronic voting system or other voting system equipped
for individuals with disabilities at each polling place;
and
(C) if purchased with funds made available under
title II on or after January 1, 2007, meet the voting
system standards for disability access (as outlined in
this paragraph).
(4) Alternative language accessibility.--The voting system
shall provide alternative language accessibility pursuant to the
requirements of section 203 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (42
U.S.C. 1973aa-1a).
(5) Error rates.--The error rate of the voting system in
counting ballots (determined by taking into account only those
errors which are attributable to the voting system and not
attributable to an act of the voter) shall comply with the error
rate standards established under section 3.2.1 of the voting
systems standards issued by the Federal Election Commission
which are in effect on the date of the enactment of this Act.
(6) Uniform definition of what constitutes a vote.--Each
State shall adopt uniform and nondiscriminatory standards that
define what constitutes a vote and what will be

[[Page 116 STAT. 1706]]; 11/25/20, 8:24 PM
mccullough said...: counted as a vote for each category of voting system used in the
State.

(b) Voting System Defined.--In this section, the term ``voting
system'' means--
(1) the total combination of mechanical, electromechanical,
or electronic equipment (including the software, firmware, and
documentation required to program, control, and support the
equipment) that is used--
(A) to define ballots;
(B) to cast and count votes;
(C) to report or display election results; and
(D) to maintain and produce any audit trail
information; and
(2) the practices and associated documentation used--
(A) to identify system components and versions of
such components;
(B) to test the system during its development and
maintenance;
(C) to maintain records of system errors and
defects;
(D) to determine specific system changes to be made
to a system after the initial qualification of the
system; and
(E) to make available any materials to the voter
(such as notices, instructions, forms, or paper
ballots).

(c) Construction.--
(1) In general.--Nothing in this section shall be construed
to prohibit a State or jurisdiction which used a particular type
of voting system in the elections for Federal office held in
November 2000 from using the same type of system after the
effective date of this section, so long as the system meets or
is modified to meet the requirements of this section.
(2) Protection of paper ballot voting systems.--For purposes
of subsection (a)(1)(A)(i), the term ``verify'' may not be
defined in a manner that makes it impossible for a paper ballot
voting system to meet the requirements of such subsection or to
be modified to meet such requirements.

(d) Effective Date.--Each State and jurisdiction shall be required
to comply with the requirements of this section on and after January 1,
2006.; 11/25/20, 8:25 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Qwinn...
info Mentioned in the hearings today and I copied and pasted it from twitter.

No MSM outlet is even curious about any of the hearings. There was powerful testimony and information from many many witnesses.
Our media is corrupt.; 11/25/20, 8:27 PM
Sprezzatura said...: BFTP.......,

That’s not the coolest thing that I saw on Twitter today, though I did see that.

Check this out:

https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1331777023249887232

MAGA COOL! Am I right?; 11/25/20, 8:31 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "MAGA COOL! Am I right?"

Cooler than a painting of Biden in his basement with a pudding cup, anyway. Don't you think?; 11/25/20, 8:34 PM
Narr said...: BORE-ing.

I'll see you cool cats tomorrow.

Narr
Turkey . . . Pecan pie!; 11/25/20, 8:34 PM
Qwinn said...: Thanks BFTPFCP.

So from the hearings. The Pennsylvania Senate hearings.

Those numbers - 1.8 million ballots sent out, 2.5 million received... Should be pretty easy to verify those numbers (at least, if the PA Department of State didn't mysteriously and conveniently just shut down their website with all the voting data.).

700,000 vote difference. Almost exactly what Trump was leading by at 3am when the counting stopped, and Biden overtook Trump in a manner of minutes when the counting resumed.

I wonder if mccullough or adSs have an explanation for that. And if they still thinks there's just "too much ground to make up" that couldn't possibly be made up by identifying the fact that 700,000 more ballots were returned than issued.

They'll probably insist that we have to identify, arrest, try and convict the voter attached to each each of those 700,000 obviously fake ballots, and try them all in a criminal case, and conclude all 700,000 of those court cases before December 14th. Otherwise, they win!; 11/25/20, 8:36 PM
5M - Eckstine said...: The election fraud we are seeing here is a national security threat.; 11/25/20, 8:37 PM
Jupiter said...: In Pennsylvania, 1.8 million mail-in ballots went out, and 2.5 million came back in.

What's your source for that?; 11/25/20, 8:39 PM
Qwinn said...: Jupiter, I asked that and she answered. It was from the PA Senate hearings that every network, even Newsmax, failed to show, because Biden picked THAT HOUR to give his "Thanksgiving Speech".; 11/25/20, 8:42 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “Don't you think?”

Both would be funny. But the thing you’re describing is funny like the fat baby DJT balloon is funny.

There something more fun about seeing people with cult-like devotion for a politician. I like to try and imagine what could make people act that way.* IMHO.

*Who else thought: “right wing pigeon from outer space sent here to destroy the human race”?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3AO8hUwQpE; 11/25/20, 8:43 PM
Jupiter said...: "700,000 vote difference. Almost exactly what Trump was leading by at 3am when the counting stopped, and Biden overtook Trump in a manner of minutes when the counting resumed."

Always recalling that our source for that is the Edison JSON files. I suppose some part of that would have been reported on telvevision, but if the Edison JSON is what it is purported to be, television was just quoting Edison. I still can't believe there is no official system for collecting and reporting vote tallies. You would not run a turkey raffle with a system as half-assed as this.; 11/25/20, 8:44 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Michigan Certification Process Creates Confusion About the Status of 2020 Election

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/11/24/michigan-certification-process-creates-confusion-about-the-status-of-2020-election/; 11/25/20, 8:45 PM
mccullough said...: This story before the election says almost 1.8 million registered Democrats requested mail-in ballots, while almost 700,000 registered Republicans requested them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-requests-hit-2-8-million-including-700000-gop-voters/2567670/%3Famp; 11/25/20, 8:46 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "There something more fun about seeing people with cult-like devotion for a politician."

More interesting still- recounting the votes after discarding all those that don't meet the legal definition of a lawfully cast ballot.

What do you think?; 11/25/20, 8:48 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "You would not run a turkey raffle with a system as half-assed as this."

Not unless you wanted to be able to decide the winner.; 11/25/20, 8:49 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Yes - PA government shut down their site when they realized people were using it for information.; 11/25/20, 8:50 PM
mccullough said...: Another pre-election day story about mail-in ballots requested and the number returned as of the date of the story.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/elections-2020-candidates-updates-news-pennsylvania-20201027.html%3foutputType=amp; 11/25/20, 8:50 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: I'm devoted to the truth.; 11/25/20, 8:51 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: mccullough 8:50
No numbers at that link.; 11/25/20, 8:53 PM
Sprezzatura said...: I’m NS,

No, counting the legal votes was totally boring. That’s already happened, as we see with the certifications.

The wee bit of interestingness that is left is related to the flailing press conferences and the DJT worshipers that get jerked around by them.

Cult followers are funny.; 11/25/20, 8:55 PM
mccullough said...: Scroll down to story: “1.8 million mail ballots have been returned in Pennsylvania”

Dated October 27, 2020 at 4:06 pm; 11/25/20, 8:56 PM
I'm Not Sure said...: "No, counting the legal votes was totally boring. That’s already happened, as we see with the certifications."

If you say so.; 11/25/20, 8:57 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Mccullough - How would a pre-election tid-bit like that be relevant now? Esp since there is evidence that 2.5 ballots were returned.; 11/25/20, 8:59 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Black Fridays Matter

...no push to put a lid on that, "for public safety", eh?; 11/25/20, 9:02 PM
Sprezzatura said...: BFTP,

She was destroyed when she tweeted that.

Do you know why?; 11/25/20, 9:02 PM
mccullough said...: Story says:

“Tuesday is the last day for voters to request mail ballots, and more than 3 million applications have been processed.”

So one week before Election Day in Pennsylvania, according to data provided by the Pennsylvania Secretary of State, more than 3 million voters requested an absentee ballot.

Now someone is saying the number requested is 1.8 million.

Perhaps the person who said this confused the number requested by registered Dems with the total number?; 11/25/20, 9:05 PM
mccullough said...: 2.5 million ballots returned is 83% of 3 million ballots requested.; 11/25/20, 9:07 PM
Sprezzatura said...: BTW,

My Second favorite Jenna thing today was when she Tweeted that Twitter was suppressing news of the big news conference. I guess Jenna will get the last laugh when a court room hearing allows her to prove that DJT won. Presumably that hearing matters a little bit more than todays “hearing.”

My First favorite thing was her holding her phone to the microphone so all could hear POTUS talk about how he won the election.

Cool.; 11/25/20, 9:08 PM
Achilles said...: mccullough said...

Scroll down to story: “1.8 million mail ballots have been returned in Pennsylvania”

Dated October 27, 2020 at 4:06 pm

Giuliani said that 2.5 million were counted.; 11/25/20, 9:09 PM
mccullough said...: Achilles,

Over 3 million ballots were mailed out.

So over the next week, 700,000 more ballots were sent in. 500,000 or so were never sent back to vote.; 11/25/20, 9:12 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: May or may not be a Roosevelt quote - but so what.
It works.; 11/25/20, 9:13 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: "destroyed"
by the corruption excusing leftwing twitt army?; 11/25/20, 9:14 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Her best Tweet over the last few weeks was definitely when she said Frank Luntz has a micro penis.

That may be her best Tweet eva.

The DJT legal team is definitely not staffed w/ anything but the best lawyers in the country. You are not in a cult if these are the folks that you trust, follow and repeat.; 11/25/20, 9:16 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “by the corruption excusing leftwing twitt army?”

By reality.

You should find the actual Tweet. Tweets allow people to post corrections as comments. For some reason you linked to a screenshot of a Tweet that removes responses.; 11/25/20, 9:21 PM
Achilles said...: mccullough said...

Achilles,

Over 3 million ballots were mailed out.

So over the next week, 700,000 more ballots were sent in. 500,000 or so were never sent back to vote.

Did they separate those 700,000 votes like Judge Alito ordered?; 11/25/20, 9:25 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Ach,

Do you understand calendars?; 11/25/20, 9:27 PM
Achilles said...: The problem going on with New York’s 22nd Congressional District is something out of a movie. Oswego County Supreme Court Justice Scott DelConte uttered something no one wants to hear:

“We have a serious problem on our hands.”

Some stupid congressional race in New York has a 100 vote lead for the Republican.

And they lost the post-it notes on ballots that flagged votes for marks that were out of circle and other such discrepancies.

They don't know if they were counted or not.

Because they lost post-it notes that were stuck to ballots that were considered legal markers of some sort.

You can't make this shit up.; 11/25/20, 9:34 PM
Qwinn said...: mccullough:

"Now someone is saying the number requested is 1.8 million."

You found a bit that said 3 million ballots were *requested*.

Guiliani said 1.8 million is the number of ballots that were *sent out*. Those are not the same thing.; 11/25/20, 9:39 PM
Achilles said...: anti-de Sitter space said...

Ach,

Do you understand calendars?

Yeah and clocks too.

At 10PM on November 3rd by laws the polls in PA legally closed.

The governor or some other hack job decided he got to extend the election for 3 days because he said so.

The case was challenged and the decision went 4-4.

Since Alito has charge over Pennsylvania he ordered Pennsylvania to separate ballots received after the polls closed at 10PM on November 3 because they Supreme Court was likely to strike down the extension.

I am sure Judge Alito is going to appreciate that the court is going to add Amy Coney Barret to that 4-4 decision. When the 3rd Circuit gets done with whatever they are going to do I am sure everyone is going to love the Supreme Court ruling that comes down on the PA election.; 11/25/20, 9:40 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Ach,

I get that that’s your way of saying you’re sorry that you misunderstood the timing of the 700,000 ballots w/ regard to election day (which is not Oct 27).; 11/25/20, 9:46 PM
Qwinn said...: Funny, from the news article mccullough linked us to:

"Democrats in Pennsylvania and across the country are much more likely to vote by mail than Republicans are, a partisan split driven in part by months of false attacks by President Donald Trump on the voting method as fraudulent."

mccullough earlier:

"Before 2020, the percentage of mail-in/absentee votes always skewed heavily toward Democrats.

In 2020, the percentage of mail-in/absentee votes skewed heavily toward Democrats."

So who is right? Is mccullough right that 2020 isn't really different in this regard? Or is the article mccullough is citing as authoritative right that 2020 mail in ballots favored Democrats more due to BadOrangeMan stating the obvious?; 11/25/20, 9:47 PM
Lawrence Person said...: Bill filed to regulate SWAT teams in Texas.; 11/25/20, 9:51 PM
Readering said...: Circle jerk. Meanwhile, the transition proceeds apace.; 11/25/20, 9:56 PM
effinayright said...: mccullough said...
Under Pennsylvania’s election code, passed by the Pennsylvania legislature, its up to the Secretary “to examine and re-examine voting machines,and to approve or disapprove them for use in this State, in accordance with the provisions of” the Pennsylvania Election Code.

So the Pennsylvania legislature delegated its authority to the Secretary to approve the use of voting machines.

Now some Pennsylvania state legislators are doing Outrage Theater that the Secretary approved the use of Dominion in some counties.

What a fucking joke.
****************************

Look at what I bolded. The SecState has no plenary power to approve, only to approve **if ** the machines meet the provisions of the LAW. So the joke here is on YOU.; 11/25/20, 9:58 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “LAW. So the joke here is on YOU.”

Nice use of caps. But, I think at least two exclamation points are needed.

Also, it probably wouldn’t hurt to add a “SAD!”. And maybe add an accusation of a micro penis, or somehow integrate some low viscosity hair die. Say that the CCP controls Dominion and R politicians?

Anywho, even w/o that, you’ve got your Perry Mason moment. Your, “you can’t handle the truth” moment [wait, did that one work out for the bad guy or the good guy? I dunno.] Scratch that, this isn’t a “you can’t handle the truth” thing. Just Perry Mason. Or Columbo or Murder She Wrote [I’ve never actually seen those, but I’m guessing the demo here will understand that the old man and old lady always win (assuming that the do so (otherwise the shows would be downers)).]

Carry on!; 11/25/20, 10:15 PM
effinayright said...: In response to my comment...

anti-de Sitter space flung snot and said nothing substantive.

The score thus far:

Me: Infinity
ADS: Dick; 11/25/20, 10:23 PM
Birkel said...: https://mobile.twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1331776746660761607

Democarticals in Kentucky violates the Constitution.
America should have banned Democraticals during Reconstruction.
Germans banned Nazis for exactly the same reasons and America missed an opportunity.; 11/25/20, 10:29 PM
Churchy LaFemme: said...: Old was Jessica Fletcher's thing. Falk was 44 when he started Columbo, Burr was 40 when he started Perry Mason.; 11/25/20, 10:33 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Would you say “infinity Dick”?

Sounds big.; 11/25/20, 10:38 PM
Sprezzatura said...: But seriously, why so much talk about my dick slinging snot?; 11/25/20, 10:41 PM
Qwinn said...: Note that McCullough did, to his credit, admit that the PA legislatures authority was totally unconstitutionally usurped by the Governor and judiciary.

You might wonder how he could possibly still argue that the election was valid then.

Simple. His position is that Democrats illegally twisting election laws to favor Democrats is totes ok, as long as it didn't make a difference in the outcome.

And how does he know the changes weren't enough to make a difference? He doesn't. In any way. But he thinks the burden of proof is on US to prove that it did.

Which is insane. Democrats broke the law. Made voter fraud incredibly difficult to audit, in violation of those laws. And then the burden of proof is on the victims of that law breaking to prove it made a difference.

Thats not how this works. The law was violated. Massively. The election was invalidated by those violations. You don't get to break the law repeatedly in incredibly self serving ways *and then demand the benefit of the doubt*.

You could produce charts and graphs all day long proving it couldn't have made a difference (like we have been, proving it easily could, dozens of times over) and it wouldn't matter. Democrats broke election law. Massively. You don't then get to demand that everyone accept the outcome of that quietly and submissive. Fuck off. Wolf and multiple judges broke the law and should go to jail, and the election nullified. Period.; 11/25/20, 10:50 PM
Sprezzatura said...: “Democrats broke election law. Massively.”

Easy to type those words. Easy to say them at an R press conference, in an actual hotel or in a parking lot named for a hotel.

But, no proof or evidence = total failure in a real court hearing. The only victory is in the minds of cult followers who don’t need proof or evidence.

SAD!

Michael Savage says (w/ some evidence) that liberalism is a mental disorder. So is Trumpism. IMHO.; 11/25/20, 10:59 PM
Gospace said...: law.justia.com is a good and reliable source for state constitutions. The actual Pennsylvania state site is:
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/00/00.HTM

On another thing-in many states- the right to bear arms is absolutely non-ambiguous. For example, Pennsylvania:
§ 21. Right to bear arms.

The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned

But yet, somehow Pennsylvania requires a permit for a citizen to carry a gun. Reconcile that with the words of the Pennsylvania Constitution- which IS THE supreme law of Pennsylvania. Maybe justifying the laws is why Pennsylvania is home to many pretzel manufacturers.; 11/25/20, 11:02 PM
Drago said...: adSs would gain a bit of credibility on the "cult" front if he/she/xe would simply admit that he/she/xe was suckered into the russia collusion hoax and remained there for 4+ years but now knows it was made up and weaponized.

At least then credence might be given to adSs on the issue of "cultists" believing things "without evidence".; 11/25/20, 11:16 PM
Qwinn said...: adSs: McCullough already admitted that the PA governor and judiciary illegally usurped the authority of the legislature and made changes to how the election was conducted that violated Pennsylvania law.

That really isn't disputable. Constitution directly and in plain english vests the state legiatures with that power. Not the governor. Not the judiciary. They have no legal say. And they still conducted the election in massive violation of those laws.

Congratulations on being even less intellectually honest than McCullough. That takes doing.; 11/25/20, 11:18 PM
Qwinn said...: GoSpace: You only need a permit in PA to concealed carry. Open carry requires no license or permit.

I'm a 2nd Amendment absolutist, and I don't have a problem with gun laws in PA. Far more in line with the 2nd than any other state I've lived in. Or even driven through, possibly.; 11/25/20, 11:21 PM
Crypto said...: Chuck said...

Drago said...
Important Note: LLR-lefty Chuck approves strongly of Harry Reid and his smear of Romney, which also puts the lie to LLR-lefty Chuck's claim of having been a Romney supporter.

That's not true; it's never been true, and I never wrote anything like that. And you can't quote me or link to anything like that from me.
___________________

Perhaps Drago's goal is to smear you and to drive a wedge between you and Althouse's readers.; 11/25/20, 11:26 PM
Qwinn said...: Now New Jersey, that fucking hell hole (which I lived in most of my life), THAT place uses the 2nd amendment for toilet paper. Will never, ever love there again. To live there is to be a serf.; 11/25/20, 11:29 PM
Qwinn said...: I will say that I doubt that Chuck enjoyed seeing Romney get smeared. Romney is every bit the traitorous scum that Chuck is. On the other hand, Romney seemed to enjoy getting smeared, and certainly didn't defend himself... so maybe Chuck enjoyed it too. You know. A vicarious cucking.; 11/25/20, 11:33 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Did the Pennsylvania state legislature violate the federal Constitution when they delegated the authority to approve voting machines to be used in elections, including the presidential race, to the Pennsylvania Secretary of State?

If the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment applies to voting, then why is there a 15th Amendment that, among other things, prohibits states from denying the right to vote based on race? Doesn’t the equal protection clause already cover that?

What’s your plain English tell you?; 11/25/20, 11:35 PM
Qwinn said...: mccullough:

The delegation question is debatable, but why bother? The extensions beyond election day and the removal of signature verification from mail ins were not delegated. Those were violations of the law. You admitted this. Are you now retracting the only honest thing against interest you've said in the last two weeks of this shitshow?; 11/25/20, 11:39 PM
mccullough said...: No Qwinn. Not retracting anything.

So what’s the remedy for the violation?

Throw all of Pennsylvania votes out? Revote according to the laws the state legislature passed?

Where in the Constitution does it state what to do when two of the thousands of provisions in the Pennsylvania election code were not followed?; 11/25/20, 11:44 PM
Big Mike said...: Do we all agree, at least, that Biden won Michigan fair and square?

No. We don’t all agree.; 11/25/20, 11:48 PM
mccullough said...: Big Mike,

Which states do you believe Trump lost?; 11/25/20, 11:48 PM
Qwinn said...: Redo the vote according to the actual law, yes. Why is that so difficult? What is more unreasonable about that than *no* consequences for a party to violate election law in obviously and massively self serving ways?

Also, the law breakers should be tried for breaking the law in massively self serving ways. The customary consequence for breaking the law. Just like happens to us peons. Why is that even slightly controversial?; 11/25/20, 11:50 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

If some county clerk throws out 5 ballots, do we hold statewide revotes?; 11/25/20, 11:52 PM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

How many mail-in ballots did Pennsylvania clerks receive after Election Day?

If the rejection rate in 2016 for missing/non-matching signatures was 1% in Pennsylvania, why do you think the rate in 2020 for non-matching signatures would be any different if the clerks had been allowed to verify signatures?; 11/25/20, 11:56 PM
Sprezzatura said...: There’s a Russian gal on the Toc that that does skits where she’s plays an American woman in a situation and then a Russian woman in the same situation.

It’s like: American gal worries and is nervous that someone is following her in her car.
Russian gal says “Oh I have a friend, I will pull Glock out of glove box.”

I also like the Tok account that is Crazy Russians. It’s stuff like wrestling huge bears and driving off ramps to crash through a frozen lake and sink w/ your car. And so on.

As for a hoax, everyone agrees that the Russians put the thumb on the scale for DJT in 2016. No, that doesn’t mean that DJT had hookers piss on BHO’s hotel room bed. Can you comprehend both of these lines of reality at the same time?; 11/25/20, 11:59 PM
Crypto said...: mccullough said...
Qwinn,

If some county clerk throws out 5 ballots, do we hold statewide revotes?

******************

No, as we know for a certainty that 5 votes, by themselves, would not change the outcome of the election.; 11/26/20, 12:07 AM
Qwinn said...: "County clerk threw out 5 ballots"

Pathetic straw man.

"If the rejection rate blah blah blah"

You continue to think that the burden of proof is on Republicans.

No.

It is Democrats who violated the law.

The burden of proof is on you to prove it couldn't have made a difference.

Which. in a system where *literally every single last voter integrity measure that makes catching fraud possible in any reasonable time frame was intentionally dismantled and there was absolutely no chain of custody for millions of ballots*, is impossible. You cannot, will not ever convince us that you broke all those laws, dismantled every voter integrity measure, and then DIDN'T commit as much fraud as humanly possible.

We don't owe you anything. We most *certainly* do not have a responsibility to try to audit a vote that you intentionally made as difficult as possible to audit.

The arrogance that after all the Dems have done, all the laws they broke with no possible purpose but to enable fraud, that they deserve ANY benefit of the doubt, is mind boggling.

There is no response left but Go. Fuck. Yourself. Bloody.; 11/26/20, 12:21 AM
walter said...: "In Pennsylvania, 1.8 million mail-in ballots went out, and 2.5 million came back in."
Weird.; 11/26/20, 12:25 AM
Drago said...: I believe I like the cut of crypto's jib.; 11/26/20, 12:32 AM
Drago said...: Qwinn: "I will say that I doubt that Chuck enjoyed seeing Romney get smeared. Romney is every bit the traitorous scum that Chuck is. On the other hand, Romney seemed to enjoy getting smeared, and certainly didn't defend himself... so maybe Chuck enjoyed it too. You know. A vicarious cucking."

You make an interesting and strong case.; 11/26/20, 12:33 AM
Crazy World said...: Chuck up dick head; 11/26/20, 12:38 AM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Trump lost. Six million more people hate him than like him. It’s pretty simple.

Trump lost Pennsylvania. Only 10,000 ballots came in November 4-6. The rejection rate in Pennsylvania on mail-in ballots was 1% in 2016 when Trump won Pennsylvania. So even under The Ideal Election Conditions of 2016, mail-in ballots were rarely rejected.

So subtract 28,000 votes from Biden (assuming every 1% rejected ballot for a mismatched signature would have been a Biden vote but not a Trump vote and that all 10,000 votes received after Election Day votes for Biden).

Biden still wins Pennsylvania by 50,000 votes.

You guys sound like Stacey Abrams yelling about Voter Suppression because people have to wait in line more than 5 seconds to vote or because the government doesn’t come to your home and pick up your ballot.; 11/26/20, 12:38 AM
Drago said...: adSs: "As for a hoax, everyone agrees that the Russians put the thumb on the scale for DJT in 2016."

LOL

Bull.

Yeah, I sort of knew you couldn't let go of the russian collusion hoax pacifier.

But I thought I would give you a chance anyway.

Its so amusing watching the "putin changed vote totals" and "trump openly colluded with Putin" crowd continue their fake retreat from their lunatic claims that they made every single day for almost 4+ years but all the while, you just know, as with adSs, they still believe every single word of it.

The polls are pretty conclusive on the 2/3rds of democraticals who still passionately believe Putin literally changed vote totals.

Not figuratively changed vote totals.

Literally changed vote totals.

adSs is smart enough to know that in a thread such as this, its best to beat a small tactical retreat on this point......but somewhere else down the line its gonna come out again.

And where is it that the democraticals are putting all their hoax collusion marbles?

The democratical senators only portion of the Senate report. Yep. That was just the democratical senator hacks who wrote that.

But adSs just keeps on believin'......cuz Brennan and Strzok and Mark Warner told him to believe...and adSs, like LLR-lefty Chuck, knows what to do when given a directive from his/her/xer betters!; 11/26/20, 12:40 AM
walter said...: Good news appears to be that CA gave a billion in UI to prison inmates.
That's progressive!
Fortunately their thriving covid era biz is pouring revenues in...; 11/26/20, 12:41 AM
Rt41Rebel said...: "Do we all agree, at least, that Biden won Michigan fair and square?"

Of course not. Trump won Ohio by a margin much larger than Florida. PA and MI have roughly the same interests as OH. Biden should have lost PA bigly with his fracking disdain, and he should have lost MI with his China manufacturing policy preference. None of this makes any sense.; 11/26/20, 12:42 AM
Sprezzatura said...: “You continue to think that the burden of proof is on Republicans.

No.

It is Democrats who violated the law.”

I’m no legal expert. But, your leader currently has a lot fewer votes than the Satanist who eats children (or maybe he’s “just” a commie trojan horse (i.e. the glass is half full)), you may want to come forward w/ proof that the Ds broke the law so you can reverse the fact that your leader has a lot fewer votes. Status quo don’t look good when yur behind by a lot. You just need a judge (or judges/justices) to overcome the trammels re fewer voters choosing DJT re DJT winning w/ fewer votes. But that has nothing to do w/ a burden re providing evidence that you’re not full of shit in a court of law. You got this. DJT is winning.; 11/26/20, 12:42 AM
mccullough said...: People didn’t vote the way I think they should have, therefore it was fraud.; 11/26/20, 12:44 AM
walter said...: mccullough said...
People didn’t vote the way I think they should have, therefore it was fraud.
11/26/20, 12:44 AM; 11/26/20, 12:46 AM
Qwinn said...: Your argument completely relies on the utterly baseless assumption that Democrats made no greater effort to produce fake ballots in a year where they knew they had successfully dismantled every voter integrity measure that could result in them being caught, than in the previous election where they could have been caught.

Just. No. Insanely moronic. Infinitely gullible. Demands completely unearned benefit of even the most obviously reasonable doubt. Demands a level of respect and trust that has never, ever been reciprocated.

Spectacular fail.; 11/26/20, 12:48 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Drago,

Even DJT admits that the Russians messed w/ our elections.

Remember Helsinki where DJT said that he agreed w/ Putin that the Russians weren’t involved? Then DJT and his folks had to say that he misspoke, of course he knows that the Russians were F-ing w/ US.

Beyond the technical stuff that has been documented by our gov and Rs and Ds in the Senate, the Access Hollywood tapes coincidentally started w/ the drip of HRC emails that had been hacked by Russia.

Anywho, you don’t even care about DJT getting help or even colluding w/ foreign governments, as long as it helps DJT. He was impeached for that, and most Rs (except the one that starts w/ R) said “who cares if DJT coerces (never mind colluding w/) other governments so that those govs help him win elections?”

You don’t care that Russia helped DJT, which the Senate Rs and Ds both reported did happen. Quite the patriot.; 11/26/20, 12:54 AM
Qwinn said...: It also assumes that 2016 was an "ideal" election, as if even a 1% rejection rate isn't obviously implausibly low even if only simple human error was rejected.; 11/26/20, 12:54 AM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

Why did Trump win Texas?

Much easier for Dems to steal a state with 38 electoral votes than steal two states (Pennsylvania and Michigan) with a combined 36 votes.

Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, and Austin are all Dem cities in Dem counties.; 11/26/20, 12:59 AM
Sprezzatura said...: This must be a Left Coast crew.; 11/26/20, 1:01 AM
Qwinn said...: What an idiotic question. I'm done.; 11/26/20, 1:01 AM
mccullough said...: Qwinn,

So you want government workers to reject more mail-in ballots because you think government workers are adept at comparing signatures?

How many in-person voters in your precinct were turned away or forced to cast a provisional ballot because some government workers thought their signature didn’t match?

Do people’s signatures change over time?; 11/26/20, 1:04 AM
Sprezzatura said...: “What an idiotic question.“

Right, get back to the smart questions, like jabbering about how it’s EZ PZ to toss tens or hundreds of thousand so ballots from legal voters w/o going into court w/ proof. Just have press conferences. That’s not idiotic.; 11/26/20, 1:10 AM
Qwinn said...: 28 in person voters were made to fill out provisional ballots in my district.

That's about 5% of the total.

Versus the 2020 mail in rejection rate of 0.036%.

Which is fine.; 11/26/20, 1:14 AM
Qwinn said...: So the mail in ballot rejection rate was 30 times less than in 2016, and 150 times less than in person voters being made to fill out a provisional, mostly for reasons like Republicans being told they returned a ballot they never received and in some cases never even requested.

And if they claim to have a mail in ballot from a person, and then the person shows up, and filled out a provisional, guess which one gets counted.

Come on, guess.; 11/26/20, 1:25 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Of all the film flam used to try and overturn the vote of the American people I think the coolest named one was Hammer and Scorecard, so far.

Then Benford.

Then Dominion/Smartmatic.

If someone could come up for a name that represents throwing out BS numbers that don’t mean anything after a full calendar and all the data are considered (like 1.8 million..., but 2.5 million....,DJT wins), I can work that into my ranking system. Maybe “Operation Red Wrath.” In a sentence: ‘The Ds used operation red wrath to steal the election.’ I’d rank that between Benford and Dom/Smar. Pretty cool name.; 11/26/20, 1:32 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Just wheel Qwinn into a court room.

This is a slam dunk Qwinn has the smoking gun re the Ds Red Wrath Operation. DJT wins.; 11/26/20, 1:34 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: This is dedicated to Chuck, who has repeatedly defended the election process in Michigan:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRCT OF MICHIGAN

TIMOTHY KING,MARIAN ELLEN SHERIDAN, JOHN EARL HAGGARD, CHARLES JAMES RITCHARD, JAMES DAVID HOOPER and DAREN WADE RUBINGH,
Plaintiffs.
v.
GRETCHEN WHITMER, in her official capacity as Governor of the State of Michigan, JOCELYN BENSON, in her official capacity as Michigan Secretary of State and the Michigan BOARD OFSTATE CANVASSERS.
Defendants.

CASE NO.

COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY, EMERGENCY, AND PERMANENT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

This may be Sydney Powell’s Kraken, or part of it, at least. The Complaint asks that the court disallow the state to certify Biden electors based on : Violations of Elections and Electors Clauses to the US Constitution (which both require that the state legislatures, and not executive or judicial branches determine election laws); Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amdt; Due Process Clause of the 14th Amdt; and various provisions of the Michigan election statutes. It is apparently supported by dozens and dozens of sworn affidavits.

It should be interesting.; 11/26/20, 1:38 AM
Readering said...: Usual commenters will be salivating that the new USSC just overturned NYS restrictions on religious service sizes based on first amendment. 5-4, when earlier, similar cases went the other way.; 11/26/20, 1:39 AM
Unknown said...: Trump won Texas because Texas doesn't use Dominion machines, duh.; 11/26/20, 1:42 AM
DeepRunner said...: Happy Thanksgiving to Mead and Althouse.; 11/26/20, 1:46 AM
DeepRunner said...: Happy Thanksgiving to all who frequent these parts.; 11/26/20, 1:50 AM
Qwinn said...: None of you want to guess, when they have a mail in ballots from someone, and also that person shows up in person (with signature verification and every other voter integrity check) and says they never requested or got a ballot, so they tell that person to file a provisional.

And then they check, and yes, they have a mail in in that person's name. And you can't check *that* signature.

Guess which one gets counted. C'mon, man!

Okay, well, how about you opine on which of those two SHOULD, obviously, be counted?

Did you think the provisional vote by the prtson who showed up and had his id and signature checked is the one that SHOULD be counted?

Democrats in PA disagree.; 11/26/20, 2:01 AM
Achilles said...: mccullough said...

No Qwinn. Not retracting anything.

So what’s the remedy for the violation?

Throw all of Pennsylvania votes out? Revote according to the laws the state legislature passed?

Where in the Constitution does it state what to do when two of the thousands of provisions in the Pennsylvania election code were not followed?

If you have a legal process that everyone agreed on before the election you follow it.

If someone changes that process illegally and then kicks republican poll watchers out you start throwing people in jail. They are undermining the election by breaking the law.

The election is invalid at that point and all of the voters that had their time wasted should start hanging people.

The fact that you think the remedy to people breaking election laws is to shrug and walk off like a cuck is the problem here.; 11/26/20, 2:07 AM
Achilles said...: Readering said...

Usual commenters will be salivating that the new USSC just overturned NYS restrictions on religious service sizes based on first amendment. 5-4, when earlier, similar cases went the other way.

Well. Someone on the court who thought they were a God Priest was replaced by someone who can read.

Funny how they start making decisions that follow the Constitution when they actually read the Constitution.

Shocking really.; 11/26/20, 2:10 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: They have been busy. Here is another lawsuit, this one in Georgia:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICCT COURT,
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA, ATLANTA DIVISION

CORECO JA’QAN PEARSON,
VIKKI TOWNSEND CONSIGLIO, GLORIA KAY GODWIN, JAMES KENNETH CARROLL, , CAROLYN HALL FISHER, CATHLEEN ALSTON LATHAM, and BRIAN JAY VAN GUNDY,
Plaintiffs.
v.
BRIAN KEMP, in his official capacity as Governor of Georgia, BRAD RAFFENSPERGER, in his official capacity as Secretary of State and Chair of the Georgia State Election Board, DAVID J. WORLEY, in his official capacity as a member of the Georgia State Election Board, REBECCA N.SULLIVAN, in her official capacity as a member of the Georgia State Election Board, MATTHEW MASHBURN, in his official capacity as a member of the Georgia State Election Board, and ANH LE, in her official capacity as a member of the Georgia State Election Board,
Defendants.

COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY, EMERGENCY, AND PERMANENT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

Similar Constitutional arguments, but seems to be more oriented towards the use of the Dominion software. I haven’t had a chance to wade through it yet.

It’s going to be interesting to see if Powell filed any more of these suits as Thanksgiving presents to the country. I do think that this is what she was alluding to with her talk of releasing the kraken.

So far, I think that she has done just fine in showing standing. In this case, the plaintiffs are part of the Trump slate of electors, so they have standing as such, as well as being citizens of Georgia. Also, I think that these lawsuits explain why she was separated from the official Trump campaign legal team. Neither case involves Trump or his campaign, and are legally separate from any lawsuits that they might file. But in both, she does include copies to Lin Wood, who I believe does officially represent the Trump campaign.

I find it very interesting that her client, Gen Flynn, accepted a Presidential pardon on the same day that she filed (at least) these two lawsuits. Quid pro quo? Flynn has been acting less circumspect since the election. Powell always had more information in his case than she probably should have. She probably has it here too, in terms of the specifics of the Dominion software. She seems to know a lot more about it’s origins and vulnerabilities than almost anyone else in the country. My suspicions are that Flynn was taken out early in the Trump Administration precisely because he knew, and continues to know, too much, and has very deep ties, esp to the military side, of the Intelligence Community. The suspicion has long been that Q has his roots in military intelligence, and that is bolstered by his statement awhile back that they had the “coms” (electronic communications) involving the attempted coup by the FBI, CIA, and State Dept against Trump. It should be noted that the NSA has always been quasi military, but that was made explicitly formal several years ago.

Stuff to think about this Thanksgiving.; 11/26/20, 2:31 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: Since we are having so much fun tonight, here is another case involving Gov Cuomo’s blatant discrimination against houses of worship:
Cite as: 592 U. S. ____ (2020)
Per Curiam
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
_________________
No. 20A87 _________________
ROMAN CATHOLIC DIOCESE OF BROOKLYN, NEW YORK v. ANDREW M. CUOMO, GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK
ON APPLICATION FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF
[November 25,2020]

Because it involves the intersection of fighting the COVID-19 pandemic and fundamental rights, it may be suggestive of how the Court might rule on the election cases. The per curium majority was Justices Alito, Thomas, and Barrett. Justices Gorsuch and Kavenaugh wrote separate concurrences - they agree with the result, but wouldn’t go quite as far. CJ Roberts dissented, but mostly from what I would call over technical standing or mootness. Cuomo had moved them from orange or red zones to yellow, so the draconian limits didn’t apply. The previous five pointed out that, sure, they weren’t currently faced with draconian hard ceilings, Cuomo could change that in an instant, and probably would, given the current progress of the pandemic. The other three, nominated by Dem Presidents, didn’t see anything wrong with what Cuomo was doing. Ok, maybe an exaggeration, but Roberts at least pretended to be upset by those actions.

Reading tea leaves, this seems to support my theory about how the Justices will likely vote in regards to the election. Alito Thomas, and Barrett will likely vote to convict, and probably to order the death penalty for those caught cheating. Probably for Biden, himself, too, because it was done for his benefit. Except that he probably has little if any memory of any of it. Gorsuch is pretty solid, though maybe unwilling to set as strong of a precedent as the first three want to set. Kavenaugh may again be the real swing vote (as I think that he was here), but likely to cone down, as here, on the side of light (and Trump). CJ Roberts will likely go for judicial minimization, and the only way to get him aboard is to let him control the opinion (he gets to write it regardless). And the other three do as Dems always do - go for the power. Except that last time around (Bush v Gore) Breyer signed onto the Equal Protection theory.; 11/26/20, 3:33 AM
gadfly said...: Sidney Powell told Lou Dobbs on Tuesday that she would Release the Kracken with a "massive lawsuit" to be filed in Georgia.

"I think no later than tomorrow," Powell told Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs on Tuesday regarding the lawsuit. "It's just going to be — it's a massive document. And it's going to have a lot of exhibits."

Tomorrow never came and we have moved on to Thanksgiving, followed, of course, by Black Friday, the weekend and Cyber Monday deals. Tuesday makes for a full week and December will be here.

This conclusive evidence she has been promising is kinda-like vaporware - software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed or as in this instance, poorly imagined as all Trump conspiracies are.

Perhaps this positive action from Sidney results from the bruises she got after being thrown under the bus.; 11/26/20, 3:40 AM
gadfly said...: Blogger Bruce Hayden said...
Since we are having so much fun tonight, here is another case involving Gov Cuomo’s blatant discrimination against houses of worship:

I don't like Andy much either, but I am unsure that the case ruling means much since the Governor had ruled based upon the huge uptick in Covid infections and deaths. As Judge Kavanaugh noted, the ruling is stopgap until the 2nd Circuit decides on the appeal motion there.

As for SCOTUS ruling on the election, evidence has to prove that massive fraud was involved. So far the court rulings are like 41-3 against - and the three won by Trump's army of legal beagles have all been overturned in one way or another. Rudy will have to use more hair dye, I guess - or hold another conference at Four Seasons next to the dildo shop or pipe Trump's cell phone into an important legal gathering in Gettysburg.; 11/26/20, 4:10 AM
tim in vermont said...: What is it about Obama and Biden and pronouncing silent ‘p’s?

https://twitter.com/HowieCarrShow/status/1331748486950350851

The guy is fading fast into the sundown. Never mind mispronouncing “psalm” as “palm,” twice, he can barely get the rest of it out. Sure makes him look like a devout Catholic, doesn’t it? The Bidens strike me as a very pious family.; 11/26/20, 4:35 AM
tim in vermont said...: Nicole Malliotakis@NMalliotakis
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7h
Millions of Americans are struggling, small businesses are hanging by a thread, and Biden’s priority is amnesty for illegal immigrants?

Biden promises employers an end to the scourge of uppity workers that the Trump administration brought.; 11/26/20, 4:38 AM
tim in vermont said...: What if they were allowing religious services and banning BLM demonstrations due to COVID? Do you think that would get to SCOTUS?; 11/26/20, 4:43 AM
tim in vermont said...: Looks like jewelers loupes are going to make a comeback just north of the Florida Georgia line

Bubblegate in a nutshell

9 sworn affidavits in GA

Irregularities with batches of absentee ballots, with a similar pattern

These are sworn affidavits

1) pristine ballots - no marks, not creased
2) perfect black bubbles filled out (like printed)
3) all for Biden

https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1330251517719420933

I would like to know what that’s about.; 11/26/20, 5:05 AM
Humperdink said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 11/26/20, 5:37 AM
Humperdink said...: Drew Dilkins, mayor of Windsor Canada becomes a charter member of the hypocrisy club.

https://notthebee.com/article/mayor-calls-for-zero-tolerance-for-covid-rule-breakers-and-then-goes-and-breaks-the-rules-hours-later; 11/26/20, 5:44 AM
tim in vermont said...: Of course they want Judge Sullivan to nullify the pardon.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1331735285160415233; 11/26/20, 5:53 AM
tim in vermont said...: When the New York Times was all-in on overturning the election through the Electoral College.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1331673582930440193; 11/26/20, 5:54 AM
Humperdink said...: Denver Mayor Michael Hancock has also taken the Hypocritic Oath, urging his serfs to avoid travel, 30 minutes before he boards a flight to visit his daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/26/denver-mayor-hancock-thanksgiving-covid/; 11/26/20, 6:01 AM
stevew said...: Happy Thanksgiving!; 11/26/20, 6:19 AM
iowan2 said...: Readering said...
Usual commenters will be salivating that the new USSC just overturned NYS restrictions on religious service sizes based on first amendment. 5-4, when earlier, similar cases went the other way.

You don't understand. The lower courts ignored the constitution. And, Roberts is going to do his damnedest to see that SCOTUS decisions are as even as he can make them. Should be lots of 6-3 votes. Roberts is more concerned about opinion pages of NYT than the constitution.; 11/26/20, 6:25 AM
Rusty said...: "Perhaps Drago's goal is to smear you and to drive a wedge between you and Althouse's readers."
A noble and worthwhile goal. Chuck is a c#*t. He has been since he first came here claiming to be a life long republican and concerned that Michigan had no reasonable gun control laws. When asked what gun control laws Michigan already had he didn't even know what a form 4473 was or that you had to contact your local sheriff to get permission to buy a hand gun. Form RI-010.
He desperately craves attention and is in all likelyhood on the spectrum. And Dunning-Kruger. So anything you can do to humiliate him and expose him as a c#*t is a good thing. He comes here after repeatedly being banned so he's fair game. Open season on Chuck the c#*t.
Thank you Drago.

So the usual suspects are exclaiming loud and furiously that no vote fraud was possible or committed. Hmmm. How can there be more votes cast than people registered to vote? I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation.
Five people being denied their franchise is no big deal to McCollough. You know why we revolted against the English crown, right? When it's your vote it's a very big deal. I'm willing to fight for it. Are you?; 11/26/20, 7:58 AM
Chuck said...: Chuck is a c#*t. He has been since he first came here claiming to be a life long republican and concerned that Michigan had no reasonable gun control laws. When asked what gun control laws Michigan already had he didn't even know what a form 4473 was or that you had to contact your local sheriff to get permission to buy a hand gun. Form RI-010.

Wut?!?

I've never, ever offered up (or held) any such positions about "gun control" laws in Michigan. I own several guns.

I have no idea what you are even talking about. As always, my closing remark is that you can't quote me, or link to a quote from me, suggesting anything like this. Because I never wrote any such thing. I presume that your faulty memory is taking you back to some dispute that you may have had with some other commenter.; 11/26/20, 8:34 AM
Rusty said...: Chuck the c#*t said' "I've never, ever offered up (or held) any such positions about "gun control" laws in Michigan. I own several guns."
You're a goddamn liar. Check the archives, c#*t.; 11/26/20, 9:24 AM
Curious George said...: "Chuck said...
We'll see you in court."

"We"? The only we'd see you in is traffic court.; 11/26/20, 9:53 AM
Drago said...: It was so magnificent last night reading up on how LLR-lefty Chuck's hero, Cuomo, got his a** handed to him as well as Cuomo's little sidekick, the full-on-liberal "New Souter" Roberts.

It was a good day on the SC, and having ACB join in the fun of punching LLR-lefty Chuck in the nose just made it that much sweeter.; 11/26/20, 10:55 AM
Chuck said...: Rusty said...
Chuck the c#*t said' "I've never, ever offered up (or held) any such positions about "gun control" laws in Michigan. I own several guns."
You're a goddamn liar. Check the archives, c#*t.

You come on these pages, and make an unfounded allegation about my views(?!?) on gun control in Michigan, and when I demand that you quote me and link to it, you tell me to "Check the archives"?!?

Tell you what, sport. I tried to do what you suggested. And I found this page of comments. It's hard to figure out how you got so mixed up about my views but I think that if you can read through this maybe this is where you began to screw up about me:

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/12/is-hillary-clinton-sorry-she-reacted-to.html; 11/26/20, 11:08 AM
Rusty said...: Not the same conversation, c#*T. Go back and try again. Keep trying until you get it right.; 11/26/20, 11:52 AM
Birkel said...: Rusty,
Why do you keep misspelling cunt?; 11/26/20, 1:11 PM
Qwinn said...: ""We"? The only we'd see you in is traffic court."

Oh, I hope that's not true. I'd really love to see him wind up in a court as a co-conspirator to the steal before this is over.; 11/26/20, 3:02 PM
Qwinn said...: Exhibit A for convicting Chuck as a co-conspirator in the steal:

Chuck is happy. Even a fraudulent win is a win, Right Chuck?
...

As long as my win -- fraudulent or not -- is Trump's loss, it's a win for me.; 11/26/20, 3:04 PM
Rusty said...: Birkel.
So as not to offend our hostess and the other people here that I respect. I'm not a total dick.
You and your family have a nice holiday.; 11/26/20, 3:13 PM
Birkel said...: Hoping the same for you and yours, Rusty.; 11/26/20, 4:08 PM
5M - Eckstine said...: I was curious about the typos and the professional commentary on the filing as a layperson. I went and read the whole 104 pages. First timer.

I saw no typos in my copy. I thought I caught one when I misread "Herein" as "Heroin".

It's a damning piece of work. Mail in ballots are a substantial national security risk. Elections systems should not be built and owned by foreign companies. Record retention should be a thing. People that like to play with the integrity of a vote should have their hands slapped hard until they stop.

People insulated by power and money and wealth tend to want to get moved on to their old familiar lives. The rest of us want a fair election. This is a good time to straighten it out.; 11/27/20, 1:27 AM