October 14, 2020

Senator Hirono schooled Amy Coney Barrett for saying "sexual preference." It's an offensive term... as many people just learned yesterday.

Here's a good clip showing Hirono's earnest, mildly contemptuous attitude toward the Supreme Court nominee and editing in the use of "sexual preference" by a few notables, including Joe Biden and Ruth Bader Ginsburg: I was surprised to hear that "sexual preference" has become — at least in some circles — a politically incorrect term. I could immediately see the reason for objecting to it: It vaguely suggests that sexual orientation is a choice, even though I don't think it's true that we choose our preferences. It might suggest that who we love — and who we feel sexually attracted to — is lightweight, more like which flavor ice cream we like better than another. Yes, you prefer to have sex with a blonde, but if you can't have the blonde, the brunette will do just as well. 

Why not get bent out of shape about "sexual orientation" then? Orientation suggests pointing east or west on a landscape. All you have to do is turn around and you'll have a different orientation. 

And why the focus on immutability anyway? I think even if sexual attraction is a matter of choice,  your choice is worth of respect. Choices are important and a good foundation for rights in a free society. Think of freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, freedom to have political opinions and to speak about them. These things matter in part because they can change and you do have a choice. 

Indeed, the right to have an abortion is referred to as the right to choose. It's about individual autonomy. Let me quote the 3-Justice opinion that determined the outcome in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (the case that partially overruled Roe v. Wade in 1992):
These matters, involving the most intimate and personal choices a person may make in a lifetime, choices central to personal dignity and autonomy, are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. At the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life. Beliefs about these matters could not define the attributes of personhood were they formed under compulsion of the State.

But I took Hirono's scolding to heart. Even though what I've just said is what I genuinely think upon reflection, my first reaction was: Oh! I didn't know this was offensive! Have I offended?! I knew I could look in my 17-year blog archive and in my classnotes from conlaw2 to see if I'd used the offending phrase.

ADDED: I checked my Constitutional Law II classnotes for the use of the word "preference," and I'd never written "sexual preference" — only "sexual orientation" — but I did see the word "preference" in discussing the same-sex marriage cases. I'd written that the Court had a "preference" for the Due Process clause over the Equal Protection clause. 

I checked the blog archive and found a few occurrences:

1. All the way back in 2007, I quoted Martina Navratilova, who'd said: "The more we play God or try to improve on Mother Nature, the more damage we are doing with all kinds of experiments that... turn into nightmares." I said: "That sounds like the alarmism of a religious fundamentalist, but hostility to scientific research comes from the progressive side when the question is the source of sexual preference." Navratilova was criticizing a scientist who was — in my words — "studying why some male sheep have a sexual preference for other males." I asked: "[S]houldn't we want to know the truth? Shouldn't gay rights advocates care when they sound like the religious fundamentalists they usually deride?"

2. In 2010, I had a post titled "Andrew Sullivan on Elena Kagan's 'emotional orientation' — emotional orientation?" I said: "Apparently, there's a new euphemism. I hadn't seen this one before, and I haven't heard the argument for why it's a good one. Is it something like the way we started saying 'gender' instead of 'sex'? Maybe 'sex' is something that people are supposed to keep quiet, and that makes it hard to insist that talking publicly about someone's sexual orientation is appropriate and important. But there are problems with the term 'emotional orientation.' It suggests that all of your emotions are centered around your sexual preference. Perhaps the term is intended to convey an argument that if you are gay and not open about it, your public persona is shallow and false."

3. In 2014, discussing a Slate article asking "Is kink a sexual orientation?," I wondered: "[W]hat hangs on the answer to the question whether something is in or out of a category called 'sexual orientation'?... 'Sexual orientation' clearly refers to the sexual preference for a partner of another sex or your own sex. But you could make it a big category, inclusive of things like sado-masochism. But why? What are you trying to achieve by grouping these things together?" 

4. In 2015, I quoted a Slate article called "What Was Gay": "It feels like we are working as fast as we can to build what gay academic and activist Dennis Altman imagines in his provocatively titled The End of the Homosexual?: a world in which we no longer see 'homosexuality as a primary marker of identity, so that sexual preference comes to be regarded as largely irrelevant, and thus not the basis for either community or identity.'"  

5. Also in 2015, I have a post about something Russell Wilson said — "If you can love somebody without [sex], then you can really love somebody." I said: "One might seek a sex-free relationship with a person of the opposite sex for reasons other than religion. Maybe that's the only reason People can think of or maybe People is influenced by the church setting or maybe People is pandering to the tastes of its readers, but religion is not a necessary foundation for Wilson's statement. It could be philosophy (as in Plato's "Symposium"). And it could be sexual preference. I would not infer from a woman's beauty that a particular man feels sexual desire for her."

6. Blogging in 2018 about the 20th anniversary of the beginning of the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, I linked to Drudge quoting Drudge: "A young woman, 23, sexually involved with the love of her life, the President of the United States, since she was a 21-year-old intern at the White House. She was a frequent visitor to a small study just off the Oval Office where she claims to have indulged the president's sexual preference.... " I wisecracked: "'The president's sexual preference' is how people said 'blow jobs' 20 years ago."

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bagoh20 said...

Yea, the Dems don't don't like you "preferring" things. They'll tell you what you prefer, and make damned sure you do, or else.

Susan said...

The real radicals DON'T like the Democrats. But they do find them useful.

Especially the idiot ones.

robother said...

A recessive gene that creates one or two non-reproducing siblings per generation could easily be a family trait that enhances overall fitness of a genetic group. Humans are social animals, and the shift from hunter-gatherer to agrarian life has made genetic fitness even more a function of overall family social fitness.

I imagine that, in 12th Century Italy, having a son dedicated to climbing the greasy pole to success in the Roman Curia, whether an archbishopric, cardinal's hat or the ultimate gold ring, would definitely increase the Familia's chances of overall reproductive success down to present day. (So much the better if the trait is associated with greater than average intelligence and networking skills, which casual observation would seem to confirm.)

Do we imagine the Confucian bureaucracy was similarly staffed?

Jim at said...

Maybe we could get a list of things the sniveling left doesn't find offensive.
It'd be easier.

StephenFearby said...

Yancey Ward said...
'The most hilarious thing was the Merriam Webster immediately changing the online definition of "sexual preference" to include Hirono's idea that it is offensive. I now think Orwellian is about to be eliminated by all the dictionaries.'

It's already happened in China, first online, subsequently in libraries:

Independent (UK) 01 March 2018

The Chinese government has banned George Orwell’s Animal Farm and the letter ‘N’
China bans George Orwell's Animal Farm and letter 'N' from online posts as censors bolster Xi Jinping's plan to keep power

Experts believe increased levels of online suppression are sign Xi Jinping hopes to become dictator for life


"The Chinese government has banned posts referring to George Orwell’s dystopian satirical novella Animal Farm and the letter ‘N’ in a wide-ranging online censorship crackdown.

Experts believe the increased levels of suppression - which come just days after the Chinese Communist Party announced presidential term limits would be abolished - are a sign Xi Jinping hopes to become a dictator for life."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-animal-farm-ban-censorship-george-orwell-xi-jinping-power-letter-n-a8235071.html

wendybar said...

Now for the follow up race lecture by Kamala. When all you have is a race card....you lost.

Unknown said...

Rather than the standard apology: "I'm sorry if I offended you." It would be better to ask the person who says they were offended if they think you meant to offend. If they say yes, you can deny it. If they refuse to accept your denial, you now have the right to say you are the one offended, since they are calling you a liar. If they admit that you did not mean to offend, you may ask if they are still offended. If they say yes, they are now confessing they are being unreasonably offended by an innocent remark. All this keeps matters in the frame of civility.

At this point, I personally would be ready to give genuine offense, with suitable vocabulary.

MeMySelf said...

My reaction.. Good Lord, Hirono is a fucking idiot.

Unknown said...

As a Brahmin Fat Jap of Color

Hirono can create rules at whim

if she says its offensive then Althouse has micro aggression

there is an out

you can say SEXUAL PREFERENCE

ONLY WHEN WEARING A MASK

you can always buy penance unless you are cis gendered white male

Iman said...

I find Senator Hirono to be highly offensive.

Gospace said...

Looks like the establishment of Ingsoc is proceeding apace.

mikee said...

When our female cat and our female dog both decided that sleeping curled up with my wife in our bed was their natural right, my wife just shrugged and said, "Everyone is a little gay."

BUMBLE BEE said...

I'm seeing a pairing of political signs more frequently these days. Biden/Harris and Hate has no place here. Delusional at best.

Iman said...

I, for one, am very thankful I won't have to listen to/hear from this horse-faced cocksucker Harris for much longer...

Iman said...

Blogger Susan said...
The real radicals DON'T like the Democrats. But they do find them useful.

Especially the idiot ones.


Quite a supply of them... that I can tell you.

Joe Smith said...

So, fiercely heterosexual Booker goes on and on about how drug laws disproportionately affect blacks...cocaine laws, marijuana laws, etc. And he may even have a point.

It was a huge softball right over the middle of the plate.

And not a single idiotic Republican senator had the intelligence to bring up Harris' prosecutorial record of jailing thousands of black men in California for marijuana offenses.

Then Harris goes on and on about voting rights being denied black voters in the South, and the thousands of blacks who were lynched.

And not a single idiotic Republican senator had the intelligence to agree with her, and point out that it was all Democrats who perpetrated the lynchings and the laws to keep blacks from voting.

Republicans are the stupid party...

effinayright said...

"One item of evidence in favor of it is that the more older male siblings a male baby has, the more likely the baby is to be gay."

***********

so...I guess in that old 50's movie "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers", some of the brothers were gay, and married other gays or trannies.

Uh huh...

Static Ping said...

I do like the end of the keyword search: sadism, science, sheep.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Barrot is impressive.

Democrats are slime bags.

Michael said...

The term is "outdated and offensive" only for the purpose of putting the uber-woke in the right and those who haven't quite kept up in the wrong. It is the same with the ever changing and revolving terms for people of African descent. It is all about giving a particular class of people power over everyone else (and especially well-meaning haute bourgeois, who can never be well-meaning enough.)

John henry said...

I forgot to mention wilfrido vargas' classic musical question:

"Mami que sera que quiero el negro?"

https://youtu.be/MvrNHquxgM4

John Henry

Fernandinande said...

Under the "gay uncle" hypothesis, childless gay males provide additional care and support for their siblings and for their siblings' children,

Apparently there's approximately no evidence for that idea.

Anywho, within the last 5,000-20,000 thousand years, anywhere from 20% to 80% of men did NOT reproduce, depending on time and location, male reproducers decreasing a lot with the advent of agriculture (to only about 6%?) and increasing recently w/monogamy. So the 2% or so (again varies from zero to probably 2% max) of men who were gay don't matter much.

Currently it look like about 20%-25% of US men don't reproduce.

Mark said...

That's right. There is no free choice of the will. It is all an illusion because . . . "science." Therefore there can be no personal culpability, no personal responsibility. Everything that we do or don't do, including me writing this sentence, was determined by the first fall of the domino 25 billion years ago before the earth was even formed.

So we really can't blame people for pushing such dipshit ideas like that. Because the universe made them think it, and it was all set in stone at the beginning of the cosmos.

n.n said...

Free will is a religious idea. Here, a biologist and a physicist explain why it's false.

Individual dignity, intrinsic value, and inordinate worth are religious/moral concepts.

Science is a philosophy, practice, and logical domain in a limited frame of reference. Science is incapable of discerning cause and effect, origin and expression, but relies on correlation of varying degrees, which in the best case is functional, and in the worst case is a cargo cult (i.e. conflation of logical domains). Free will is an axiomatic belief or article of faith.

MAJMike said...

Sorry. My latest edition of the Official Newspeak Dictionary ended up in a ditch with mail-in ballots.

n.n said...

my wife just shrugged and said, "Everyone is a little gay."

She's right: joyous, merry, and carefree. The word was appropriated by liberals in the early to mid-twentieth century in order to soften the image and facilitate normalization of trans/homosexuals.

n.n said...

Now for the follow up race lecture by Kamala. When all you have is a race card....you lost.

Diversity breeds adversity. She needs to lose her Pro-Choice quasi-religion ("ethics").

n.n said...

Maybe we could get a list of things the sniveling left doesn't find offensive.
It'd be easier.


They adhere to the Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, relativistic, politically congruent ("="), ostensibly "secular" quasi-religion. They are no more capable of specifying what is prescribed, let alone what is proscribed, as the dictates from their mortal god and goddess philosophers follow the prevailing winds of what is profitable at the time, as in limited frame of reference... very scientific in a cargo cult, pattern matching, inferential sort of way.

Narr said...

"A stiff p---k has no conscience,"

and there's no such thing as an insincere erection.

Narr
Verbal sparring with Hazy Daisie is like shooting retarded fish in a small barrel

Michael K said...

Harris seems to be 0 for 3 in her campaign events. No wonder she has not had a press conference.

Michael said...

I am straight and have a preference for women. A decided preference. I am oriented in that direction. From birth. What the fuck are these people doing to our language? I mean you are really and sincerely "offended" by the phrase? Then you are a moron. And likely gay.

Mr Wibble said...

Hot girl-on-girl to get all the CIS males wound up going into breading season?

Bisexuality might be an advantage in a society with a large sex ratio. A lot of women sharing a few men might benefit from closer ties through sexual attraction to reduce conflict.

bagoh20 said...

So are they saying it's wrong to be gay if you choose it? I know gay men who were straight, even having multiple kids, who later on in life decided they liked men better, at least that's how they describe it. They probably don't know what they are talking about as much as old straight boomers in the Senate.

If there was zero reason to not be gay, as we are now approaching, wouldn't some "straight" people choose to be gay? If sexual preference is a continuum, then there must be some people on the fence or looking over it.

MadTownGuy said...

From the post:
"And why the focus on immutability anyway? I think even if sexual attraction is a matter of choice, your choice is worth of respect. Choices are important and a good foundation for rights in a free society. Think of freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, freedom to have political opinions and to speak about them. These things matter in part because they can change and you do have a choice."

The focus on immutability is because of the 'science' that says sexual orientation is genetic. It has even been posited that religious orientation is genetic. Ergo, there is no self-determination - all is genetic and we are all predestined to act out our predetermined behaviors. Behold the new Calvinism!

Michael K said...

Mazie is living evidence that the theory of Asian IQ superiority is a myth.

Terry Ott said...

Up there at 12:40 PM, Matt says: "The greatest deliberative body in the world...or so I'm told. These are not serious people. These are buffoons playacting at responsible governance. F the braindead simps that voted them into office.” Yep. For sure.

Who first said it was the “greatest deliberative body”, anyway, and when? Anyone know? Probably many of its own members have said so for more than a century. But I haven’t seen the “greatest deliberative body" rankings on ESPN, nor the criteria. Anyone know who started it? You can find claims that James Buchanan came out with it in 1867. I’m old enough to have been around when Joseph McCarthy was riding high as my Senator. So, there’s that, but maybe it slipped down to the second greatest for a while before rebounfing and reclaiming its top rank.

Other things that WERE true in 1867 have changed a bit. The Union of Morrisonia (founded 1855 in the Bronx) was the top professional baseball team. I haven’t seen them in the MLB playoffs the past few years.

But on to the “sexual preference” term. Joe Biden has been using the term so I guess Sen Hirono will be lukewarm on his candidacy, right?

My own sense it that it’s an appropriate term. Would the language gestapo have a problem with it in this hypothetical context?: "My mind and body chemistry are wired, and always have been, in a way that translates into attractions that are different from many others'. And so my “sexual preference" is a natural outgrowth of that; it’s an emotional construct that cannot be switched on and off.

Bunkypotatohead said...

Whatever became of that organization for the rest of us?
People Offended by Offended People.
POOP.

DeepRunner said...

Snowflakes everywhere. The ongoing winter of reason, thought, and the ability to communicate without fear of marked as an "other," which is what the left is so aggrieved about until they can do it to anyone who uses a term they don't like.

Bay Area Guy said...

How come WE never get to ask these Democrat Senators any questions?

Q: Senator Hirono, do you suck cock?

Q: Do you suck Haole cock?

Q: Would you consider sucking my Haole cock?

Something along that line of inquiry.....

I am not Laslo.



Francisco D said...

Michael K said...
Mazie is living evidence that the theory of Asian IQ superiority is a myth.

I don't need to tell you this Mike. There is a normal distribution of IQ with ethnic and racial groups having different and overlapping curves. There are many Blacks who have far superior IQs than Whites or Asians. My former BIL was one of those people. On average, it is a completely different story.

My Korean stepson is a bright kid, but nothing special except in his mother's mind. He gets shit from Blacks and White liberals who think he has some special genetic traits that make him intellectually superior and thus an ally of White Superiority. He works relatively hard, but not as hard as I did many years ago.

The bottom line is that there are stupid people and smart people of all racial and ethnic groups. It is the difference in averages that we are struggling with.

Lewis Wetzel said...

No one knows what goes on in the mind of another person. No one. Husbands and wives of half a century can be astounded to learn about their spouses' true thoughts. People are the worst narrators of their own experience. When it is important, you would be foolish to believe what a person says about their sexual preference.
Thoughts are nothing, and 'sexual preference' is nothing. It is behavior that matters.
Oscar Wilde was not sent to prison for having homosexual thoughts. He was convicted of particular actions, namely, sodomizing another man at a particular time and place. The evidence consisted, in part, of soiled sheets collected by maids.

damikesc said...

I don't understand why your SEX is a choice but sexuality is not.

Paul said...

"Sexual preference" offensive?? Get a grip. Making it offensive just offends me! Hence one offense cancels out the other one.

End of this stupidity.

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