August 10, 2020

"Hillary Clinton will deliver a prime-time speech next Wednesday for the Democratic National Convention..."

"Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts will join Mrs. Clinton, the 2016 nominee, on the Wednesday night program if she is not selected as Mr. Biden’s running mate, according to the officials. Former President Bill Clinton will speak as well, one of the officials said. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont and former Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, a Republican who is a harsh critic of President Trump, will deliver addresses Monday night, the officials said. Former President Barack Obama’s time slot has not been announced (or leaked), but he could be included on a crammed Wednesday night program, or possibly introduce Mr. Biden on Thursday — to deliver a nationally televised rendition of the-Joe-I-know speech he has been giving during online Biden fund-raisers and round tables. It is not clear when Michelle Obama, who delivered what was widely regarded as the best speech at the 2012 convention in Charlotte, N.C., will speak. But planners have privately said they believe her address could attract the widest viewership outside of Mr. Biden’s."

From "2020 Election Live Updates: Democratic Convention to Feature Obamas and Clintons" (NYT).

Other than the Obamas, this sounds awful. I can't believe we're going to be stuck watching both of the Clintons. It's all so terribly old. Who wants to hear from Kasich?! And Warren and Sanders are the opposite of Biden. They're the candidates who got elbowed out by the party that didn't want them. But I guess they'll be good and play their part and concentrate on how it's all about getting rid of Trump.

153 comments:

Quayle said...

Nothing says progressive like 70 year olds.

Drago said...

Its like a Dream Team lineup for "principled conservatives" seeking to "conserve conservatism".

If I may paraphrase Shakespeare,

And LLR's in Michigan now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not there,.....

tcrosse said...

I can't believe we're going to be stuck watching both of the Clintons.

Is it mandatory to view this?

rhhardin said...

Everything speech will be about what will women like. Getting rid of Trump is only one of many possibilities.

Nonapod said...

I've been under the impression that the Clintons generally are no longer particularly that well liked among the Dem electorate. Do Democrat voters really want to hear more from Bill and Hill? Even if the typical Dem voter chooses to disbelieve all the Epstein stuff and email server stuff and Benghazi stuff and all the mountains of bagage built up over the years I still think it's just a little weird to go back to that particular well at this point.

Or is this just a reflection of the fact that the party can't find enough people of significant stature to speak? Are the Clintons the bottom of the barrel?

BADuBois said...

Both this'll make the youth vote enthusiastic!

Joe Smith said...

This is a geezer-fest. And the Clintons are still taken seriously after the whole Epstein thing? Wow...no wonder young people are sick of politics as usual.

Important note: Will Joe speak live? Or will it be a recording? If the latter, Trump and the Republicans had better really play that up...

Dave Begley said...

Maybe Bill and Hillary will talk about their so-called marriage and Jeffery Epstein.

Bill, "I did have sex with those girls. Multiple times."

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

That will be awful. I hope Kasich stays there with his new friends, although I’m now very grateful that when he was a Republican he wrote the Emergency Tax Act in 1997 (signed into law by Bill Clinton) that gives Trump the authority to withhold tax collection for up to a year. It is a genius move to pit Nancypants Biden et al against people getting monetary relief. “Re-elect or let Joe collect” is a great slogan.

D 2 said...

It is interesting that in reporting to the public the line up of speakers that this NYT mediaist (new word, in this age - they are all opinion providers now) would make the additional commentary about how fantastic Ms Obama spoke at an event in 2012. This, when unlike the others cited, it is not even known if she is speaking. So why not comment about some other Dems (Gabbard? Williamson?) who is equally unknown to have a speaker slot?? Why don’t they get a reference?

I believe it is only when enough people say “Enough!!” - be they left right center up down whatever colour gender religion etc - that maybe we will get to a world where THE JOB of a reporter is not to dispense with what THEY THINK but to tell us what IS and leave it at that please.

Tell me the timing for speakers, sure. Like a baseball lineup card. That is information.
But I don’t need you to try to corral my thoughts via your own sidebars. That is spin and who isn’t sick of it. You can’t even get a straight report about who is scheduled for an event without all the sidebars and tangents and bullshit that is somebody’s opinion.

Sally327 said...

I wonder if Hunter is going to speak. I'd tune in for that. I bet a lot of people would. '

To the Biden campaign, if you're reading Althouse, here's a way to boost the ratings, give Hunter Biden a prime time slot. We want Hunter! We want Hunter!

MadisonMan said...

Conclusion: The Democratic Party has learned absolutely nothing from Hillary's defeat.
BTW: Brian Epstein died a year ago today.

sunsong said...

of course it is all about getting rid of donald!

he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid

Michael said...

The Obamas are black, right? Need black speakers because BLM. Who better to speak of the exceptional life experiences of Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin and the Floyd guy. All heroes of the black community. All reformed and planning on advancement as doctors or engineers or even community organizers.

Bilwick said...

Statism, blah blah blah, more statism, blah blah blah, taxes blah blah blah . . . Can't wait!

tcrosse said...

he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid.

sunsong is too young to remember LBJ.

gilbar said...

We can ALL AGREE, that Jo Biden is too old and decrepit to be President
and that Donald Trump is TOO OLD as well.

But here's what i don't understand
Billy Clinton is younger than EITHER, yet; if you look at recent pics, he is one foot from the grave

Is that because of his AIDS?

Nonapod said...

BTW: Brian Epstein died a year ago today.

Nah, he died back in '67.

Ice Nine said...

>>MadisonMan said...
BTW: Brian Epstein died a year ago today.<<

Actually, it was 53 years ago, 17 days from today.

(I know, I know...)

PM said...

That gives us about a week to hack the teleprompter.

rcocean said...

Bill Clinton was a big pal of Jeffery Epstein and visited Pedo-island 26 times. Several witnesses have put him there. So why isn't anyone talking about it? Why isn't anyone in the press asking about it, or commenting on it? Why is he showing his face in public, let alone speaking at the D convention?

I'm always shocked how we just have a one media left-wing national conservation. They have the microphone. And the only thing to oppose them are a few random unorganized people - most of whom are stupid.

Mr Wibble said...

I've been under the impression that the Clintons generally are no longer particularly that well liked among the Dem electorate. Do Democrat voters really want to hear more from Bill and Hill? Even if the typical Dem voter chooses to disbelieve all the Epstein stuff and email server stuff and Benghazi stuff and all the mountains of bagage built up over the years I still think it's just a little weird to go back to that particular well at this point.

Or is this just a reflection of the fact that the party can't find enough people of significant stature to speak? Are the Clintons the bottom of the barrel?


Embrace the healing power of "and".

My theory is that they want Bill to speak to try and win back some support from the blue-collar Dems and the black communities, but you can't give Bill a speaking slot and deny Hillary one.

rcocean said...

Who wants to hear Hillary or Warren? Do the D's have anyone under 55 Or is it all Senior citizens? And maybe Cuomo can speak about how to deal with the CV-19 crisis, since he only killed 35,000 New Yorkers. And Mayor Wheeler can talk about how to control Riots.

Michael K said...

Or is this just a reflection of the fact that the party can't find enough people of significant stature to speak? Are the Clintons the bottom of the barrel?

Democrat youth movement. sunsong is all for it.

Skeptical Voter said...

You can add the Obamas to the "this sounds awful" list. AOC no doubt has her feelings hurt since neither she, nor any members of her "Squad" made the list.

But I have an idea for the Dems; Joe doesn't need to be there at the convention--they can just project a hologram of him on the convention center wall! Problem solved. Since the operators of the hologram device control the audio as well, his speech will be gaffe free.

mockturtle said...

But I guess they'll be good and play their part and concentrate on how it's all about getting rid of Trump.

Such a noble goal! Yes, the Dems are very good at destroying, deleting and 'getting rid of' while Trump is about making our country the best it can be.

Laslo Spatula said...

Having the Clintons is just a way to block out the New Left of AOC, Omar, etc.

There is no one in-between, and the latter are suicide to the middle-of-the-road viewers.

Meet the old boss. Same as the old boss.

I am Laslo.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Howie Kurtz made a kinsley gaffe during his journ-o-lister fanboy show yesterday. Ben Domenesch (?) posited that the same DNC that said Hillary lost because she failed to campaign in WI appears to be encouraging Joe to campaign without visiting ANY states. Kurtz curt reply was that “there may be some criticism of the Biden campaign” should this come to pass. Some? The same Press that criticizes everything Trump May voice some criticism of Biden? What exactly does this hairsniffing husk of a hoary joke have to do or fail to do to draw mainstream press criticism? Kill somebody? Are they just going to pretend Joe is normal all the way to 11/4? I never thought he’d actually be the nominee. I’m still 50/50 on it going down. But really at what point does the press take note of the aberrant behavior? No wonder their audience has pulled the ejector cord.

Kai Akker said...

---Other than the Obamas, this sounds awful.

Ann, you don't have to pretend anymore. We finally grokked your clever sarcasm about the "beloveds." You despise them, don't you. We all know it and appreciate your good taste and discrimination.

Qwinn said...

sunsong:

"of course it is all about getting rid of donald!

he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid "

You leftists said all of these things, and worse, about GWBush for the 8 years he was in office, and for another 5 years during which Obama blamed the death of every blade of grass on him.

Now you all kinda sorta like him.

All previous Republicans get elevated in order to trash current Republicans. Someday you'll be talking about how good Trump was compared to Pence, or Cruz, or whoever becomes the next Republican leader.

How often do you asses think you can pull that ploy before we just laugh at you?

madAsHell said...

BTW: Brian Epstein died a year ago today.

Brian died over 50 years.

Original Mike said...

"I've been under the impression that the Clintons generally are no longer particularly that well liked among the Dem electorate. Do Democrat voters really want to hear more from Bill and Hill?

Or is this just a reflection of the fact that the party can't find enough people of significant stature to speak?"


My guess is the DNC didn't have a choice (if you know what I mean).

Fernandinande said...

Especially considering the Obamas, this sounds awful.

Big Mike said...

Has the entire damned party developed a political tin war??? This party has never, to my recollection, ever been this badly out of touch with the electorate.

Wince said...

I wonder if the DNC will schedule around Tucker Carlson or go head-to-head?

wild chicken said...

What is this fetish for black women. GOP had it bad for Condi, still do, and the Dems with Michelle and Susan Rice, et al.

Black men should be so enthralled.

wildswan said...

None of them were willing to come to Milwaukee. I expect they thought it was Minneapolis.

Birkel said...

I hope the riots reach sunsong's neighborhood so he can watch the speeches and experience his preferred political outcome.

madAsHell said...

Shouldn't Joe Biden be on the agenda?

Drago said...

Inga assured Hillary and Bill were no longer at the forefront of democrat party politics.

LOL

Front and center baby.

Front. And. Center.

Bay Area Guy said...

"Hillary Clinton will deliver a prime-time speech next Wednesday for the Democratic National Convention..."

Awesome! Ole Hillary really has her finger on the pulse of America (pandemic, lockdown, recession, riots) from her vast Estate in Chappaqua, New York.

Drago said...

I can't believe the dems didnt get Romney and Ryan to do a joint appearance atthe DNC.

They are both available and willing and 100% aligned with radical dem agenda.

Kathryn51 said...

Where's the Hollywood A-List? They are usually front and center, LOL.

Ahhh, Covid - how you have impacted us all, elite and not-so-elite.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

but celebrities!

...Dems have A-list celebrities!!

traditionalguy said...

It would only be fair for Biden to give Pres. Xi a prime time for ChiCom propaganda...it’s a donor thing.

wildswan said...

And let me tell you, we are mighty miffed in Milwaukee. Yes, we are, mutedly, manneredly miffed. You've been notified.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

I get that conventions are for the base, but this seems particularly insular and short-sighted. Who will it fire up? Unless it's just an attempt to put granny panties on the drunken syphilitic whore that the Democrat Party has become.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"of course it is all about getting rid of donald!"

320 million Americans are not Donald Trump. Why choose a senile old White man hiding in his basement as your candidate? Democrat's contempt for women and people of color is astounding.

Francisco D said...

tcrosse said...
Is it mandatory to view this?

Not this time, but I cannot predict the future if the Dems take over.

Kevin said...

We want AOC! And when is Bernie coming out to tell us the real score?

Also, instead of balloons coming down ANTIFA should end the festivities by destroying and burning the building.

The Dems deserve a mostly peaceful convention.

wildswan said...

Thanks DNC, thanks for waiting till 14 days out to decide that absolutely no one was coming. Thanks for bankrupting some businesses in Milwaukee. Thanks for causing other businesses to waste precious cash getting ready for your stupid no-show circus. Thanks for coming in person to explain. Thanks the calls from Tom Perez - not. Thanks for not caring what you do to Milwaukee and thanks for making it plain that you plain don't care. We may be able to reciprocate someday.

Kevin said...

The Dems will tell America how irredeemably racist it is by rolling out the ex-President and First Lady.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Sounds like the Three Stooges on Ed Sullivan Show in 1965 with Curly Joe! Oh Boy!

wildswan said...

I'm passing on what I heard on the radio about the Dem cancellation at the last minute. I don't care if they never come but some people in this city have lost a lot of actual money and so has the city. Real money, never mind the projected spending. The whole thing was wiped out from us without any real contact except the notification from the DNC. Think about that when those Dem idiots are smarming all over the TV about what they care about and what they'll do for the MidWest.

Richard Dolan said...

Not just a geezer fest, but all the wrong geezers. Bill Clinton, champion of women (except Sister Souljah); Hillary!, a uniter if ever there was one; Obama, doing his soft-shoe about white privilege and systemically racist PDs with maybe a riot or two playing live in the background; and then topped off by Michelle doing her "I've never been proud to be an American" except when O was in the White House (oops, that's triggering, needs to be renamed). And all of that followed by Biden, doing his man for all seasons routine by trying to read whatever the 'aides' have written for him without screwing it up.

Being not-Trump better be enough because that's all that team Dem is bringing to the game.

Sebastian said...

"Who wants to hear from Kasich?!"

No one. Ain't no Zell Miller.

But then, the point is just to have him on the program, to tell the nice women of America that all the nice people oppose Trump.

He's a propaganda prop.

MayBee said...

Thank God for streaming services. I won't have to watch any of it.

Interesting they have not announced either of the Obamas yet. I am half convincing myself they are currently begging her to join the ticket.

MayBee said...

I'm happy the conventions are gone. There is way too much money in politics, and too many people getting rich off elections. Trump's campaign last time and this year's weird campaign may prove, once and for all, that we don't need all the hoopla. So we don't need all the money.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

[Child raping Epstein buddy] Former President Bill Clinton will speak as well,

Fixed it for them

Then there's John Kasich. Who stayed in the 2016 GOP Presidential Primary until Cruz dropped out, because his #1 goal was to keep Senator Cruz from winning the nomination, and he therefore wanted to split the anti-Trump vote.

So, 2016 he fought to make Trump the GOP nominee.

2020 he's at the Dem Convention.

You people have fun with that guy, we sure don't want him

Iman said...

Lawrence Welk sends his regrets...

Sebastian said...

"they believe her address could attract the widest viewership outside of Mr. Biden’s"

How many viewers will tune in out of sheer morbid interest in the extent of Slowww Joe's decline?

Anyway, question for Dems: the blackest Dems ever ruled us for 16 years; how come we still have systemic racism?

Yancey Ward said...

Who wants to hear from Kasich? Chuck.

I guarantee you Chuck is here giving us the highlights of Kasich's speech the next day if not in real time.

Susan said...

Behold, the field in which the Democrats grow their politicians and, lo, it is barren.

Iman said...

he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid

But enough about BIG Zer0 0bama.

Yancey Ward said...

And Laslo is correct as usual- the geezers are the blocking strategy to prevent Omar, AOC, and Tlaib from getting speaking roles.

Sebastian said...

"The whole thing was wiped out from us without any real contact except the notification from the DNC."

Figures. Progressivism is the politics of the middle finger.

But Milwaukee ain't nothing compared to what progs have in store for the U.S.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Blogger sunsong said...
he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid

Yes, Obama was and is all of that. But we got rid of him, finally.

And hey, if some publisher wants to give Obama a $65 million bribe, I mean book advance, that's a cheap exit prize

I'd just like to see a tax law change take effect:

If you've held any Federal State or local government job / office any time in the last 20 year, or if your soups or other immediate family member has done so, then no publisher may write off any part of any book advance given to you, until such time as that advance actually "pays out".

Because bribes and payoffs shouldn't be tax deductible

Mr Wibble said...

here is no one in-between, and the latter are suicide to the middle-of-the-road viewers.

Meet the old boss. Same as the old boss.

I am Laslo.


Obama's eight years gutted the party of rising leadership. It's been fun to watch.

tim maguire said...

The Republicans are at a big advantage for going second. Of course it will be a snooze-fest. No way they muster anything like the enthusiasm of a live in-person convention. The Reps will have a great opportunity to learn from the Dem's experience and make theirs better.

D.D. Driver said...

I would hope so: she is the most qualified convention speaker of all time.

Temujin said...

Well that just sounds like 'must see' TV on Wednesday night. Elizabeth Warren AND Hillary Clinton? Together? For 2+ hours?

I'd love to see it, but I have to drink a gallon of GoLytely that night. No- I don't have a colonoscopy, but given the choice of GoLytely or Go Democrat, I'll take the bathroom for $1000, Alex.

I cannot think of two more awful people than Elizabeth and Hillary.

We do get the leaders we deserve.

Wince said...

BUMBLE BEE said...
Sounds like the Three Stooges on Ed Sullivan Show in 1965 with Curly Joe! Oh Boy!

LOL

cold pizza said...

MSNBC's new promo: "Must flee T.V." -CP

robother said...

After Epstein's suicide, no Deocrat leader is able to say no to a Clinton. Surprised Chelsea isn't given a spot (assuming she isn't the VP nominee).

Readering said...

Who does AA want to see? AOC?

Seem to remember Bill Clinton gave the best address of the 2012 Convention. And worst of the 1988 Convention. (I guess he is old.)

Is the GOP line up out?

Rory said...

Has Hillary ever been asked about her campaign's effort to elevate Trump's candidacy and get the press to treat him as a serious candidate?

Kensington said...

"Other than the Obamas, this sounds awful."
=====

lol

Readering said...

Tough for the state. First Milwaukee loses its convention, then Madison loses its football season.

wendybar said...

The Obamas will tell us how they aren't proud of America and lecture us on how Racist we all are. Great for Progressives, gagging the rest of us...

wendybar said...

I wonder if the Obamas will use their white voices or switch to the black ones, like he used at John Lewis's funeral???

Big Mike said...

If Bernie Sanders had anything remotely resembling integrity he’d tell the DC that he and the wife planned to iron the bedsheets instead of giving a speech.

Douglas B. Levene said...

Kasich is there not because anyone at the convention would ever have voted for him in any election, at any time. He is there obviously just so the media can say "There's a Republican who's voting for Biden."

Joe Smith said...

Not that they care, or have any shame at all, but how bad will the MSM look (@inga too) if, as is credibly speculated, the Dems are forced to pull Biden before the election?

One day it's 'He's fine, nothing to see here...look, he's riding a bike!'

The next, he is mentally incompetent.

Readering said...

Republicans down to WH and a civil war battlefield for presidential acceptance speech. Latter sounds really weird. Wouldn't a battlefield from a war with Mexico or Canada be better? Maybe for vp.

sunsong said...

Qwinn:

Your lack of integrity is showing!

I voted FOR George W

and I voted FOR McCain against Obama

(go back into the archives, you'll find my posts there)

donald is corrupt to his core AND stupid (a stupidity born of arrogance)

Big Mike said...

He is there obviously just so the media can say "There's a Republican who's voting for Biden."

It’s Kasich so they still can’t say it.

Craig said...

It seems that the DNC's target market for this convention is the Senior set. They think they can bank on 80% Millennial and Gen Z support no matter what, and they're probably right.

Mary Beth said...

Making Hillary speak on the same night as Bill is just to show that she really isn't likable enough. The DNC wants you to know it wasn't their fault she lost, it was hers.

Original Mike said...

I don't believe modern conventions do anything for the candidates. It's all just grifters getting paid.

And this year, it's Milwaukee businesses getting screwed, though not suffering through the riots may more than offset that.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Yancey Ward said...
And Laslo is correct as usual- the geezers are the blocking strategy to prevent Omar, AOC, and Tlaib from getting speaking roles.

Which means all of them will have major speaking roles in 2024, after the Dems lose this time around.

In 2028, when the Democrats are finally tired of losing, they won't be anywhere to be seen

Gospace said...

Why is anyone, including Kasich, pretending he's a Republican? He really is the epitome of RINO.

Drago said...

Readering: "Seem to remember Bill Clinton gave the best address of the 2012 Convention."

He was probably feeling very "up" and excited about his next trip to pedophile island.....which I noticed you were very careful not to mention.

tcrosse said...

I expect Hillary's speech to be One for the Ages.

Wilbur said...

Kasich will be there to help wheel out a new, never-heard line of attack for the Democrat Party: We don't like Donald Trump.

walter said...

"Other than the Obamas, this sounds awful. I can't believe we're going to be stuck watching both of the Clintons. It's all so terribly old. Who wants to hear from Kasich?!"
Stuck?
Did you know John Kasich's dad was a mailzyr? That always pumps the energy up.
So Joe won't goe, but are the others going to grace the Milwaukee stage?
So much suspense.

Wilbur said...

"I don't believe modern conventions do anything for the candidates"

Something I've asserted for years. Conventions and endorsements are inside baseball for political junkies. Nobody changes their vote based on that crap.

I'll say it again - All that matters in this election is turnout and electoral fraud.

Lucien said...

Get credibly accused rapist Clinton to introduce credibly accused rapist Biden — oh, wait, the #MeToo crowd will be up in arms demanding that both be de-platformed because women will feel unsafe . . . Won’t they?

Clyde said...

Kasich (spit!). If you're speaking at the Democrat convention, you are not a Republican. Period. Full stop.

Original Mike said...

"I expect Hillary's speech to be One for the Ages."

I'll try and watch, though I doubt I'll make it very far.

Will our hostess be blogging it?

Clyde said...

MadisonMan said...
Conclusion: The Democratic Party has learned absolutely nothing from Hillary's defeat.
BTW: Brian Epstein died a year ago today.


Brian Epstein did NOT kill himself! (Neither did Jeffrey.)

wendybar said...

sunsong said: donald is corrupt to his core AND stupid (a stupidity born of arrogance)

You spelled Barack wrong. He is going down...tick tock...tick tock....

Michael K said...

donald is corrupt to his core AND stupid (a stupidity born of arrogance)

I always enjoy these lefty mindreaders who know Trump so well.

mikee said...

Watch, listen, and learn. The Democratic Party is now officially the US Socialist Worker's Party of street violence, criminal enterprises and Marxist dogma. To Hell with that, and to Hell with them. Vote for Trump, hope for a margin of victory larger than the margin of fraud.

Drago said...

sunsong: "donald is corrupt to his core..."

How many unlimited budget, unlimited resource investigations staffed by Trump haters will you need to find that elusive corruption? Try to keep the number to under 3 digits.


sunsong: "...AND stupid (a stupidity born of arrogance)"

Trump keeps beating all the "smart" people. How does that happen I wonder......


Drago said...

Joe Smith: "Not that they care, or have any shame at all, but how bad will the MSM look (@inga too) if, as is credibly speculated, the Dems are forced to pull Biden before the election?"

I don't think you understand.

If Biden is pulled Inga will immediately call it a master stroke and then deny Biden was ever going to be the candidate.

In fact, if history is our guide, in the event of a Biden "yank", Inga will immediately call you delusional and a conspiracy theorist for ever believing Biden was going to be the candidate.

The saddest part? Inga will actually believe what she is writing.

Todd said...

tcrosse said...

he is the worst president in our history, cruel, corrupt, narcissistic, destructive and stupid.

sunsong is too young to remember LBJ.

8/10/20, 10:52 AM


Apparently also too young to remember Obama.

Clyde said...

Francisco D said...
tcrosse said...
Is it mandatory to view this?

Not this time, but I cannot predict the future if the Dems take over.


I can. The telescreens will only show MSDNC, and you will not be able to turn them off unless you an Inner Party member.

Drago said...

wilbur: "Something I've asserted for years. Conventions and endorsements are inside baseball for political junkies. Nobody changes their vote based on that crap."

Go back and watch the Dukakis 1988 convention speech (Dukakis walked in thru the crowd with the Neil Diamond tune "Coming to America" playing).

The LLR's and democratics (but I repeat myself) called it a master stroke and then within weeks the lefty/LLR-lefty polls showed Dukakis supposedly winning in a blowout...including showing Dukakis up by 10 in......Texas!

Yeah. Not so much.

Bottom line: you are right about the conventions only briefly causing upticks for candidates before they resettle to their natural support levels.

But I can guarantee in this case we are going to see the marxist/LLR-lefty media swoon for Biden as much as they did for obambi and Hillary and they will create poll results that back that up......before adjusting those polls closer to the election in order to maintain whatever credibility they can muster up.

Drago said...

tcrosse: "sunsong is too young to remember LBJ."

Never attribute to age that which is more appropriately attributable to stupidity.

mockturtle said...

O.M. suggests: My guess is the DNC didn't have a choice (if you know what I mean).

And my guess is you're right.

Clyde said...

Temujin said...

...

I cannot think of two more awful people than Elizabeth and Hillary.


Well, you can't top 100% awful, but people like Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Schumer, Hirono, Strzok, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, and of course, Barack Obama, could at least tie for the top spot in awfulness.

h said...

I hope Hillary reprises her "I don't feel no ways tard" speech. That never fails to amuse me. And think how it would appeal to the woke BLM crowd.

DanTheMan said...

Hillary and Bill? Both Obamas?

I'm asleep with excitement.

Jim at said...

when Michelle Obama, who delivered what was widely regarded as the best speech at the 2012 convention in Charlotte, N.C.,

Widely regarded? Was this before or after she announced she hated America unless President Precious wins re-election?

exhelodrvr1 said...

Let Lori Lightfoot speak!!

Jim at said...

of course it is all about getting rid of donald! - sunsinga

I think you're about to learn - again, like in 2004 - you have to provide people something to vote for. You can't win simply by saying you're not the other guy.

But don't listen to me. Let your Hate Flag fly. It's a sure winner.

JAORE said...

"Important note: Will Joe speak live? Or will it be a recording?"

Puh-leez. "Live" via videotape. My over/under on editing breaks is 1.5 per every two minutes.

They have probably already videoed take #47.

wild chicken said...

"don't believe modern conventions do anything for the candidates. "

They're great fun for the rank and file. I always wanted to go to one. This year I finally had my chance, but thought maybe it wasn't a good idea. And the SE in the summer...ugh.

h said...

I recommend that the DNC give a prominent speaking spot to former Congresswoman Carey Meek of Florida. She's a black woman, and it would send a clear message to the elderly that they are not forgotten by the younger generation of Dems now in the ascendancy.

wild chicken said...

"Thanks DNC, thanks for waiting till 14 days out to decide that absolutely no one was coming"


What

rehajm said...

These entertainers at the DNC are on par with the entertainers at the Republican shindig. Call it a draw. A miserable draw...

Original Mike said...

Blogger exhelodrvr1 said..."Let Lori Lightfoot speak!!"

That is an excellent idea. Are there any big-city mayors speaking? These are the people most directly affecting the lives of their constituents right now. They're on the front lines. Let's hear from them!

readering said...

I think the last major party convention that was a problem for the nominee was 1992, when Buchanan hijacked the Republican Convention with a speech that, as one wag put it, "probably sounded better in the original German." Before that, the Democratic Convention in 1968 didn't go so well, but not so much for anything said in the speeches.

Clyde said...

I read elsewhere that Latinos are cheesed/quesoed off that none of them are being invited to speak in prime time. What, the Dems have time for Benedict Kasich but no time for any of the diverse Hispanic members of their party? No bueno!

Clyde said...

Unless the new Democrat mantra is "Don't bait us!" Lori Lightfoot would be a waste of time.

sunsong said...



Trump says the Spanish Flu in 1917 "probably" ended the Second World War.

Drago said...

sunsong: "Trump says the Spanish Flu in 1917 "probably" ended the Second World War"

Many historians have long written about the impact of the Spanish Flu on the ability/willingness of nations to continue pressing forward with the War.

Some have even suggested that yes, the Spanish Flu, which killed more people globally than died in WW1, helped bring the war to an end as nations became "exhausted" in terms of manpower and resources.

So here's another example where Trump says something completely non-controversial and the idiots try and go the other way.

Its another Japanese goldfish feeding "controversy"....again.

Michael K said...

Sunsong seems to be freaking out. Get help !

gilbar said...
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readering said...

The pandemic of 1917 was actually 1918 (and 1919), as has been pointed out every time he identifies it as the 1917 pandemic. No doubt the armies and the supporting civilian populations were affected, in a conflict that ended that Fall. But the great German Spring offensive failed by summer, and that determined the outcome of the War. More of Trump just saying stuff.

doctrev said...

The Dems hoping that the election would be a referendum on Trump was also their play in 2016. The vast majority of their ads were tearing down Trump- why not, given how quickly they were running away from Hillary Clinton's policies of free trade and failure.

Now they're going back to it? When the twins of China Flu and black riots perfectly intersect with Trump's core identity? Are the Democrats REALLY this retarded, or is it down to them not planning to honor the inevitable Trump victory at all?

Either way, food is cheap. Stock up while you can.

Drago said...

readering: "But the great German Spring offensive failed by summer, and that determined the outcome of the War. More of Trump just saying stuff."

The moron, you, who argued that Stalin invaded Poland from the East ONLY because Hitler invaded Poland from the West in 1939 is in no position to declare others are just "saying stuff".

Even worse regarding your Hitler/Stalin/Poland "hot take", is that Hitler invaded Poland 1 week after signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which gave the green light for Stalin to invade Poland from the East in coordination with Hitler invading from the West.

But then again, you are big supporter of Biden, so, you know, that explains volumes.

Fat!

Michael K said...

No doubt the armies and the supporting civilian populations were affected, in a conflict that ended that Fall. But the great German Spring offensive failed by summer, and that determined the outcome of the War. More of Trump just saying stuff.

There is a fair argument that the pandemic, not the failure of the German offensive, actually won the war for the allies.

But not with an idiot that thinks sunsong knows anything. Debates are with people who know something.

Drago said...

Of course, by far the best example of just "saying stuff" has to be the latest lefty/dem/LLR-lefty "hot take" that Trump considering an acceptance speech at Gettysburg represents an homage to......(wait for it)......(wait for it).....(wait for it)........The Confederacy!!

LOL

Yes indeed, our readering-like lefty/LLR-lefty "journalists" are jumping up and down and claiming that Gettsburg is the perfect "dog whistle" for white supremacy and the Confederacy!!

You know, I think I'm beginning to understand why the left/dems were so willing to begin attacking/defacing statues/memorials to Abraham Lincoln.

The democrats have never forgiven nor will ever forgive Abraham Lincoln and the Union Army for defeating their comrades in arms.

Bilwick said...

This just in: After receiving word that Hillary Clinton might be dropping out of the speakers' line-up, Democrats (including Elizabeth Warren, in full Amerindian head-dress) and LLR John Kasich, danced widddershins around a pentangle and chanted, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn." Shortly thereafter Mrs. Clinton announced that she would indeed be addressing the convcention.

Joe Smith said...

"I read elsewhere that Latinos are cheesed/quesoed off that none of them are being invited to speak in prime time."

Black lives matter...brown lives? Dems to Hispanics: "Shut up and take it, you're lucky we let you mow our lawns."

I'd be pretty pissed off too.

Skippy Tisdale said...

"And Warren and Sanders are the opposite of Biden. They're the candidates who got elbowed out by the party that didn't want them. But I guess they'll be good and play their part"

Their just following the Susan Rice playbook.

Skippy Tisdale said...

"And Warren and Sanders are the opposite of Biden. They're the candidates who got elbowed out by the party that didn't want them. But I guess they'll be good and play their part"

Their just following the Susan Rice playbook.

Rosa Marie Yoder said...

Is it any wonder that the #WalkAway movement is growing by leaps and bounds?

Narr said...

Bilwick, that should be "thrice widdershins" etc, but let's keep it from them.

OK, apparently Trump did talk about the Flu and the SECOND World War. That's just dumb.

Narr
Everyone pay attention!

MayBee said...

In hindsight, it's hilarious to think of Michelle Obama's "When they go low, we go high" speech as Crossfire Hurricane was starting up. Oh, they went so very high.

Narayanan said...

Laslo Spatula said...
Having the Clintons is just a way to block out the New Left of AOC, Omar, etc.
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may be Joe Rogan can do podcast with them doing color commentary?

dare he? he supports Bernie!

will he be allowed?

Narayanan said...

just dropped that suggestion on JRE podcast website.

let us see what happens.

Narayanan said...

Clyde said...
Kasich (spit!).
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Mr. Kasich will lean heavily on his background as the son of a mailman,

don't you wonder if he providing inside baseball intel for vote by mail-in brain trust?

readering said...

You might find an epidemiologist with a theory that Spanish flu ended the war, but no military historian.

Gahrie said...

Black lives matter...brown lives? Dems to Hispanics: "Shut up and take it, you're lucky we let you mow our lawns."

To be fair, for the last couple of decades, Black people have been taking the backseat to brown people in Democrat politics.

Crazy World said...

A rapist and his failed candidate wife and the two most racist president and his depressed wife will speak at a missing person’s presidential nomination . You can’t make this shit up.
Trump 2020

Chuck said...

Crazy World said...
A rapist and his failed candidate wife and the two most racist president and his depressed wife will speak at a missing person’s presidential nomination . You can’t make this shit up.
Trump 2020


!

Lol.

Rapist? Well, we're going to have a civil trial in New York on that.

Failed candidate? We'll know on November 4.

"Most racist president"? Mmm okay. I'm on that.

"Depressed wife"? I don't know; perhaps Melania isn't so depressed when she's living in Maryland with her parents, Barron and her boyfriend. She did get that newly revised "pre-" nuptial agreement after all.

Anyway, Althouse; I think the Kasich speech is going to be thrilling and stimulating. But more than anything, I am wondering who it is that you'd like to see speak at a political convention. Scott Adams? Mike Cernovich? Glenn Beck? Joe Rogan? Rush Limbaugh? All those guys are clogging the internet and the airwaves every day and aren't saying anything that has much importance about anything. They couldn't possibly say anything new that they haven't said a thousand times already.

Iman said...

You must do better than that on a Tuesday, Chuck.

Just say “Hell No!” to Tired Take Tuesday!

Michael K said...

readering said...
You might find an epidemiologist with a theory that Spanish flu ended the war, but no military historian.


Fair enough. Military historians write about what they know best. They probably don't write that typhus destroyed Napoleon's army in 1812, either. But it did.

Sam L. said...

WITH the Obamas, too

Drago said...

readering: "You might find an epidemiologist with a theory that Spanish flu ended the war, but no military historian."

Strange. I've heard several military historians make just that argument.

readering, who didn't even know what the Hitler-Stalin Pact was now opining on what all military historians argue.

What a perfect leftist.

Crazy World said...

Nice deflection Chuck, Be Best.