I love the way the New York Times tells me in their daily emails that they have “everything I need to know.” What they mean is everything they see fit to tell me, true or not. It’s more like “Everything we think you need to believe in order to vote for sellout Joe Biden as if you were doing something noble.” I canceled, but apparently I had already paid through July.
Ten people had blood samples drawn every six months over 35 years, with a six-year gap in the middle of the study. The purpose was apparently to try to figure out what is going on with the common cold.
Approximately 15% of common colds are caused by four coronaviruses.
These coronaviruses are similar enough to the Covid-19 virus that three of the ten people studied had antibodies to Covid-19 in their blood at various points in time over the last 20 years.
This was not because they had Covid-19. It's because someone can get antibodies to Covid-19 just by having a cold.
So,
a) There have been a lot of reports now about old blood samples being examined and antibodies to Covid-19 being found and then the conclusion is drawn that Covid-19 was around much earlier than we had thought. This is all wrong. It was the common cold.
b) People that have antibodies to Covid-19 in their blood have not necessarily had Covid-19.
c) It may be possible to get, or at least to increase the odds of getting temporary immunity, to Covid-19 by deliberately infecting yourself with a combination of coronavirus cold viruses. The authors of "Coronavirus protective immunity is short-lasting" do not actually say this but they do speculate in the paper that a specific simulataneous infection by two common-cold coronavirus strains coincides with these Covid-19 antibodies.
The four common-cold coronaviruses (responsible for 15% of common colds) are HCoV-NL63, HCoV-229E, HCoV-OC43, and HCoV-HKU1.
Of the ten people studied, one person, subject 6, was infected only one time each by three of these viruses over the 12 years that this person was followed. That would be consistent with perfect immunity. You get it once and then you don't get again.
Subject 4, on the other hand, was infected four times by NL63, 12 times by 229E, two times by HKU1, and five times by OC43 over a 19 year span.
The researchers found many examples of people being reinfected by a same-strain virus one year later.
The obvious hypothesis is that it is going to be the same story for Covid-19.
For all three cases of Covid-19 antibodies being retrospectively found in the blood samples, this coincided with a simultaneous infection from HCoV-HKU1 and HCoV-NL63.
I hope that Covid-19 re-infections are not as bad as the original. It may be that there is some kind of partial immunity that carries over long-term in the T cells and B cells that shortens the duration and severity of the disease.
" hope that Covid-19 re-infections are not as bad as the original.”
Better to follow up a post like that with a little bone to the troglodytes to reassure them you are not trying to scare them. One thing nobody here wants is to be red pilled on COVID. But it’s kind of looking like a vaccine may need to be boosted periodically if it’s to work at all. Kind of like small pox, I think, needed boosters every seven years. That’s from memory, too lazy to google, but I know rabies shots for pets need to be re administered every couple of years.
The odds are that a Covid-19 vaccine would have to be given every six months.
Actually that is quite an optimistic scenario. Vaccines are never as good as the real thing at eliciting an immune response, and thus there is a fairly good chance that there will be no useful Covid-19 vaccine.
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Great photo!
I love the way the New York Times tells me in their daily emails that they have “everything I need to know.” What they mean is everything they see fit to tell me, true or not. It’s more like “Everything we think you need to believe in order to vote for sellout Joe Biden as if you were doing something noble.” I canceled, but apparently I had already paid through July.
Pony Tail Girl!
Pony Tail Girl!
...a little more purple in that sunrise and I'd swear that pony tail was Leela's.
Mysterious sunrise swishing sound explained.
Swish, swish.
But what is she thinking about?
A key paper,
Coronavirus protective immunity is short-lasting, was published last month.
Ten people had blood samples drawn every six months over 35 years, with a six-year gap in the middle of the study. The purpose was apparently to try to figure out what is going on with the common cold.
Approximately 15% of common colds are caused by four coronaviruses.
These coronaviruses are similar enough to the Covid-19 virus that three of the ten people studied had antibodies to Covid-19 in their blood at various points in time over the last 20 years.
This was not because they had Covid-19. It's because someone can get antibodies to Covid-19 just by having a cold.
So,
a) There have been a lot of reports now about old blood samples being examined and antibodies to Covid-19 being found and then the conclusion is drawn that Covid-19 was around much earlier than we had thought. This is all wrong. It was the common cold.
b) People that have antibodies to Covid-19 in their blood have not necessarily had Covid-19.
c) It may be possible to get, or at least to increase the odds of getting temporary immunity, to Covid-19 by deliberately infecting yourself with a combination of coronavirus
cold viruses. The authors of "Coronavirus protective immunity is short-lasting" do not actually say this but they do speculate in the paper that a specific simulataneous infection by two common-cold coronavirus strains coincides with these Covid-19 antibodies.
The four common-cold coronaviruses (responsible for 15% of common colds) are HCoV-NL63, HCoV-229E, HCoV-OC43, and HCoV-HKU1.
Of the ten people studied, one person, subject 6, was infected only one time each by three of these viruses over the 12 years that this person was followed. That would be consistent with perfect immunity. You get it once and then you don't get again.
Subject 4, on the other hand, was infected four times by NL63, 12 times by 229E, two times by HKU1, and five times by OC43 over a 19 year span.
The researchers found many examples of people being reinfected by a same-strain virus one year later.
The obvious hypothesis is that it is going to be the same story for Covid-19.
For all three cases of Covid-19 antibodies being retrospectively found in the blood samples, this coincided with a simultaneous infection from HCoV-HKU1 and HCoV-NL63.
I hope that Covid-19 re-infections are not as bad as the original. It may be that there is
some kind of partial immunity that carries over long-term in the T cells and B cells that shortens the duration and severity of the disease.
Love your faithfullness to the Blog. And beautiful too.
Is this long awaited return of Laslo's Pony-Tail girl?
JUST KIDDING!!!
Carry on, Comrades.
Ponytail girl standing in the dawn's early light.
I have said it before, and I'll say it again.
Damn, she's photogenic.
Too many clouds to see the comet before sunrise.
We've lost so much light in the morning already.
" hope that Covid-19 re-infections are not as bad as the original.”
Better to follow up a post like that with a little bone to the troglodytes to reassure them you are not trying to scare them. One thing nobody here wants is to be red pilled on COVID. But it’s kind of looking like a vaccine may need to be boosted periodically if it’s to work at all. Kind of like small pox, I think, needed boosters every seven years. That’s from memory, too lazy to google, but I know rabies shots for pets need to be re administered every couple of years.
tim in vermont,
The odds are that a Covid-19 vaccine would have to be given every six months.
Actually that is quite an optimistic scenario. Vaccines are never as good as the real thing at eliciting an immune response, and thus there is a fairly good chance that there will be no useful Covid-19 vaccine.
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