"... distancing himself from his author niece and calling her a 'mess.' 'Mary Trump, a seldom seen niece who knows little about me, says untruthful things about my wonderful parents (who couldn’t stand her!) and me, and violated her NDA,' Trump wrote on Twitter. 'She’s a mess! Many books have been written about me, some good, some bad. Both happily and sadly, there will be more to come!'... Speaking with CNN's Chris Cuomo hours after Trump's tweet, Mary Trump [said] that she and her grandmother were 'very close.' 'My grandfather didn't really have positive feelings for anybody except perhaps Donald'.... During the explosive interview with Maddow [on Thursday], Mary Trump said that she had heard the president and other members of their family use anti-Semitic language and a derogatory slur on Black people."
From "A seldom seen niece': Trump fires back at Mary Trump over tell-all book/The author, in turn, delivers a live rebuttal on cable television" (Politico).
I'd thought that Trump was going to keep silent about Mary Trump — that silence would be an eloquent way to suggest that he knows a lot about her — leaving us to imagine that she may have mental health problems or complicated grudges and that Trump is honoring his beloved dead brother by leaving his daughter in a special sacred circle of immunity from his otherwise free-wheeling attacks.
And maybe that was what he'd decided to do but he had to reverse his position after the Maddow interview, because the poison of the accusation of racist speech requires an immediate antidote.
But was that an effective antidote? It's a hell of a thing to say to someone — your grandparents couldn't stand you.
I know I discarded the racist-speech accusation immediately because it's just about individual words that were used — used or mentioned? — in private. I need at least sentences — not isolated words — to have any idea whether what was said was even bad.
Here's the Rachel Maddow segment:
By the way: "When you ask a normal, right-handed person about something he's supposed to have seen, if he looks upward and to his left, he's truly accessing his memory of the incident... However, if he looks upward and to his right, he's accessing his imagination, and he's inventing an answer." Mary Trump repeatedly looked up and to the right to "see" the answers to the questions she was asked. I don't know if she's right-handed.
July 18, 2020
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This isn't really worth commenting about.
"Explosive"
How truly embarrassing to read this book or interview this woman. I mean, to hate Trump so much you need a fix, and reading a book by his niece goes right into your veins. People who need this are addicts.
Now go watch "South Side With Me" and you'll have your speedball.
I also thought Trump would remain silent, so long as he wasn't being harmed, attributing the silence (imagined, if you will) to a beneficent act toward a family member. But the racism charge was too much to let go, and it was leveled at Donald and his father. As criticisms go, Uncle Donald's is mild, he's tweeting to undermine her credibility and question her veracity. If she were smart she would have anticipated that reaction, which, perhaps, she did and Trump's tweets will serve to help her sell more books.
She seems like a mess to me. There's no reason Trump shouldn't say it, except the usual 19th amendment problem, what will women think.
When Trump gets re-elected, does this stuff stop?
I think stevew (7:23) has it exactly right.
i'm glad i watched that video; Any believablity that she had for me, is WAY GONE
Serious Question
In her Life, how many hours (total) has she spent with Donald Trump?
I'm about Mary's age...
I have one living uncle, in my life, i doubt i've spent 72 hours in the same house with him
(2 hours thanksgiving + 2 hours christmas) * 18 years
if you add up All my uncles (4 more), you could Probably add another 72 hours, total
HOW MANY TIMES, did Mary hear Donald Trump say "the n word"?
HOW MANY HOURS, TOTAL has she spent with him?
By the way: "When you ask a normal, right-handed person about something he's supposed to have seen,"...
No, those "clues" are do not indicate lying. Here are some completely, and amusingly, different body language "tips" from CIA agents.
They're all incorrect because:
"Research has consistently shown that people's ability to detect lies is no more accurate than chance, or flipping a coin. This finding holds across all types of people — students, psychologists, judges, job interviewers and law enforcement personnel (Personality and Social Psychology Review, 2006).
...
They examined behaviors such as posture shifts, gaze aversion, and foot and hand movements, without much success."
Frankly, this is standard Trump. He holds his fire, but will give as good as he gets. We have no way of knowing which of them is telling the truth, so I see no reason to assume the worst about the guy who didn't start the fight.
When you ask a normal, right-handed person about something he's supposed to have seen, if he looks upward and to his left, he's truly accessing his memory of the incident,"
That observation has the same credibility with me as Mary's book. (I'm right handed and tend to look upward to my right to truly access my memory).
I listen to a bit of the interview. Caught the part about the older generations using racist terms. Maddow kept pressing. What word? Uncle Donald specifically? Did Uncle Donald say the word nigger?
Maddow got her to compose what Maddow wanted. The conclusions being crowed about today, are far afield from the books text. I would challenge anyone to find an honest 70 year old that did not sling about racist terms in the 50's/60's.
Lets not forget, Al Sharpton gave an award to President Trump for his exemplary work in Race Relations.
Also a very lengthy article in the NYT that found no evidence of racism in President Trumps past.
Fish food for guppies.
She is being paid to say things. What grift!
The things that get 35% of our nation all wrapped around the axle .... it’s amazing and sad.
An unsubstantiated allegation about any person using (or mentioning) a single word from 20+ years ago in a private conversation ... there is ZERO utility to any civic-minded individual here.
Look at all those qualifiers: unsubstantiated, use vs mention, too long ago to matter, private conversation. They need to ADDRESS all of those to have something interesting.
So Mary Trump — and the publisher, and every other slimy character associated with bringing this garbage to light — are too stupid to pay the slightest bit of attention to. And those who buy this garbage, well, at best they’re showing confirmation bias, and at worst ... fill in the blank.
So to speak everyone today--everyone with ambition--knows better than to use certain words. The situation was very different in the 60s (LBJ), and perhaps even more in the 50s. To say: there were people back then who used certain words, and that means today that they or their children should be disqualified from holding high office--doesn't even qualify as a fantasy.
Adlai Stevenson gave some hint he would campaign for civil rights for blacks in 1952. In 1956 he favoured implementing Brown v. Board as quickly as possible, probably without the use of federal troops, with lots of negotiation between whites and blacks, and no acceptance of the principle that southern states could opt out. This is a case where Ike could have used his authority and popularity better, instead of keeping his powder dry. Then again, he somewhat reluctantly did use federal troops at Little Rock.
Good thing there is no chance of Maddow having a conservative niece or nephew who "remembers" her saying the n-word.
A sad woman crying out for attention, enabled by people who have a pathological hatred for the president, yet the psychologist is unable to diagnose the mental disorder.
She was born when our President was 19. There was barely any interaction between the two due to the age difference. She is just another bad liar, like Avenetti or Comey.
The proud racist, misogynist, compulsive liar and criminal donald is a national laughingstock.
I don’t think he can even formulate a full sentence anymore. He is so impaired.
Nov 3rd is coming…
Rachel Maddow loves hearsay and unverifiable BS.
Well, if ethics runs in families, she has made some kind of case anyway. Not the one she intended probably.
I just want lefties to live their alleged deeply felt convictions. I want Maddow to state that "anyone using the n-word in the 70s or 80s is a piece of garbage and Joe Biden does not need your vote. Vote for Trump."
I heard that Rachel is paid 10 million a year by the Chinese communists.
They love her.
Grandparents that made it through the Great Depression using discipline and hard work and raised four children who all inherited money should not be blamed for giving a smaller share to grandkids of one predeceased child. Her entire education opportunity fame from Fred and Mary. Not from her drunk Dad who could not quit drinking for his kids sake.
Now she wants to destroy Uncle Donald to punish him for her Grandfather’s crime of earning the money she covets. And she is now a Saint.
Trump reacting with silence would have been smart. Regrettably, that is simply not how he rolls.
Mary hasn't said anything about Trump that is new or interesting. You don't create something like PDJT in a vacuum. No needle deflection either way: Nothing Burger
I feel worst for Drago.
The dynamic of long-suffering family and ranting young person really encapsulates the country's current experience with the BLM protests. It's too spot-on for Trump to pass up.
Only ignorant people would actually fork out money to this fame whore of a woman who has so much hate in her, that she hates her own family.
Liars are really good at making expressions associated with telling the truth. So you have to know someone isn't a habitual liar before you start giving weight to expressions and mannerisms.
Her book, Bolton's book and all the other books seem reasonably consistent, and consistent with observed reality. Nothing to see here.
The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
Althouse is right. Silence would have been best, but it isn’t Trump.
Meanwhile, we are treated to another opportunist. In this case an opportunist making up for a lost inheritance, violating a non-disclosure agreement and attacking a family member - the son of her beloved grandmother. She is obviously a highly principled person (/s) and the latest female attack dog employed by Democrats in their pursuit of political domination.
Democrats are so fortunate to have a cadre of individuals, particularly women, whose ethics are malleable in the face of ORANGE MAN BAD. Heretofore, that malleability was mostly dependent on the existence of REPUBLICANS. Of course, there are lots of Republicans.
Guess she's getting desperate. So, are NDA's worthless now or is that only when its Trump? And yes, Trump had to respond, because she's getting more and more unhinged.
Finally, I don't care what people say in private. People think a lot of bad things and never say them. People say a lot of bad things in private, and don't really mean it. They blow off steam, get tipsy and talk, or just goof around. If I'd told my bosses to their face, what i said about them at home (or over drinks with a co-worker), I would've been fired from every job I held.
Mary Trump sounds like a real SJW. She probably patrols the internet in her spare time, looking for people to report.
the tell of the lie was 'Of course I did'. There is nothing 'of course' about it. She was either there present or she was not. It's not like she was with Donald 24/7.
Silence is ... with the normalization of some, select Lives Matter, diversity is a progressive condition, he really didn't have any choice. This returns us to the beginning of the Democrats' 16 trimesters of witch hunts and warlock trials, ostensibly triggered by exposure of social liberal club, but actually an acutely phobic response triggered by Flynn's knowledge of Obama et al foreign and domestic adventures.
Rachel Maddow, staking her career on another Michael Avenatti. It seems to work for her and her audience who are so crazed with TDS that only more sordid Trump stories can sate them.
I love the comment that "Mary Trump said that she had heard the president and other members of their family use anti-Semitic language and a derogatory slur on Black people."
Well, that's shocking. WASPs in the 60's/70's making off-hand remarks about Jews and Blacks. This is the stuff that used to make our skin thick. We used to be able to just move past this and allow for future generations- their kids- to do better. And we all were doing better until the Woke era where nothing and no one is doing better, and nothing is funny.
Myth Busted: Looking Left or Right Doesn’t Indicate If You’re Lying
When I seek to access my memory I don’t look up to the right or the left. I look down to where my notes are supposed to be. I think most lawyers (and law profs) would do the same.
I’m shocked that Althouse thought Trump would ever remain silent for long when attacked. When has he ever done that?
Who is Mary Trump?
Who is her partner? Has she been married? Is she single? Any kids? What is her sexual orientation?
"I thought Trump would remain silent..." is a strange thing to say.
You understand use and mention, but Twitter doesn’t. Professors have been removed from class for quoting Frederick Douglass, or for reading the letter from Birmingham jail.
Grandparents don’t always love all grandchildren, at least not as they grow. Some forfeit that inheritance.
At some point, you do have to answer what you consider a slur, even if it is being leveled by a family member. What if she had accused him of raping her? Would silence be appropriate? Where is the line?
In this particular case, I probably would have just said that she is making it up, and left it at that. I also noted the constant looking up and to the right- it is one the things I always look for when I am trying to determine if I am being lied to. However, there are claims that this isn't an effective way to lie detect. I do know that when I am trying to recall something, I do look up and to the left, but I also think I do that when I am trying to pretty much anything mental. Of course, the weakness of most such studies is that the people being videod are telling lies with no consequence- they know they are part of a study and have been told by the researchers to tell truths and untruths. There are also studies that claim to have studied historic instances where it is known the subjects were lying on camera, but then the word "known" is carrying a lot of weight.
And then there is the Costanza Rule- it isn't a lie if you believe it.
When they wanted sympathy for Hillary, they put her in Frenzel glasses.
When they wanted sympathy for Christine Blasey Ford, they put her in over-corrected Coke bottle glasses.
I'm guessing they couldn't decide which style of glasses would advance the story of Ms. Trump.
Trump's Twitter comments seem to be terse enough to qualify as not getting into the mud with her.
And the fact that Mary Trump's book doesn't make mention of Trump using slurs, but she does so during a Maddow interview, doesn't exactly boost her credibility. It's sounds like she's trying to boost sales.
When people say Trump is racist, my take is everyone is a bigot, and Trump's probably slightly less bigoted than the average person of his age and environment.
There’s something very off about Mary‘s demeanor. I predict she’ll be living in a rubber room some day.
How sad that phrenology has fallen out of favor. We could use it to determine truth.
Actually the eye movements are interesting- she very consistently looks to her right while she is listening to questions and when she responds about general acceptance and use of racial epithets by the older members of the family. It is only when she specifically responds to the prodding about whether she has heard DHT use those words that she looks up to her left.
It really would be interesting to know if she’s right or left handed.
Mary Trump ( though a Trump family member, not in the inner circle) peddling tales exposing long nursed grudges and jealousies for profit.
Sad.
Terrible editing at BI. People look to the right "when they're about what they saw"?
Ann infers that Uncle Donnie is suddenly a truth-teller, possibly with feelings for his dead brother's child who was denied her share of the Fred Sr's estate because of Donald's manipulation of property values inside the estate. The New York Times exposé of Trump tax cheating and illegal rent increases (which resulted from legal records provided by niece Mary) put Trump's dishonesty on center stage but there are those unreasoning supporters who will not conclude that Donald Trump is a life-long lawbreaker. Civil penalties were assessed against Trump for casino money-laundering, using charitable funds for personal benefit and ripping off the students enrolled in Trump University.
Honestly-pursued future investigations will show that he is and was always heavily involved in illegal real estate transactions including money-laundering and filing numerous false tax returns. We also know that The Donald conspired with the Russians during the 2016 presidential election.
Karl Marx wanted a classless society. Looks like we obliged him.
It shouldn't surprise anyone based on how "virulently racist he is today".
Oh kee doke.
Lens established.
put Trump's dishonesty on center stage
Good expose on Trump when he was a private citizen...now do the public corruption of the Clintons and the Bidens.
Got your Biden 2020 yard sign up, Gaddy?
skull is mostly hollow, I pointed out the first claim, through legal insurrection, that makes her 'falsum un uno, falsum un omni, I think that's the proper passage,
What this shows is how the Democrat personal smear campaign to spread Trump hate porn has turned to dust. Truly, is this shit all you have left of 3 years of FBI mullergate Putin? If I was a journalist/ demoflunky/ antifasimp I would be deeply ashamed. This is into Palin vagina incest birth territory. At long last, sir, have you no shame? The intellectual level of the Democrat party is at comic levels. Next they will get a young child to run up to Trump, grab his leg, and yell DADDY! DADDY! ( Democrats say, oh, do you think that would work?)
"Her book, Bolton's book and all the other books seem reasonably consistent, and consistent with observed reality."
No, they are consistent with the narrative that hopes to sell books by getting on shows like Maddow's. That is so obvious, it shouldn't even need said, but some people have a condition that started spreading wildly in 2016 and is now entering it's second wave.
It's only boob bait for the leftist Bubbas.
It works better than the little blue pill because it gets ARM aroused. Otherwise he feels nothing.
Thank you, progrezzives, for draining all meaning from the word racist much as you defanged fascist and nazi too, with unironic misuse. It might only be your extremely poor memory (overuse of the old memory hole I suspect) that keeps you making the same mistakes and contradicting yourself continually (pro tip: eventually even Neanderthals catch on that yesterday’s “worse than hitler” is today’s “elder statesman” as long as he hints the current guy ain’t his type) that saves this Republic from imploding.
My brain is cross-dominant. I write with my left hand but do almost everything else with my right hand (use scissors, crochet, throw a ball, bat etc.) I have a hard time orienting myself to right/left. Just ask my husband when I'm giving him driving directions. I wonder what the rule is that applies to people like me.
Isn't amazing that no matter how lame and overused it has gotten, the charge of racism is still the go-to thing. It doesn't matter who the target is or why anymore. It's just automatic. Really just a meaningless slur at this point - something like "snollygoster", "smellfungus", "mumpsimus", or "hobbledehoy", but less specific. It only means "I don't like this person". People like Maddow crave and claw for "racism" like a fix of crack. They can't resist it, or think of anything else.
Every Trump hater calls him a racist, but I never hear why he is. Some of the same people can say that science, logic, hard work, etc "white constructs" not within the nature of Blacks. That's what racism actually looks like, and it's worse than anything ever said about any group of people.
If Trump were silent, then it is an implied admission of guilt. When Trump speaks up it is also an admission of guilt. So he is free all over again.
" I need at least sentences — not isolated words — to have any idea whether what was said was even bad."
Not to mention a little thing like whether it was actually said.
OH COME ON!
LET'S FACE FACTS!
Donald Trump is SUCH an anti-Semite, that when his daughter starting dating a Jew...
HE DISOWNED HER Then and There
Later, when she Converted to Judaism and Married a Jew; HE HAD THEM BOTH EXECUTED!!!
huh? what's that?
She's his favorite child, and rather than Executing them; he made them BOTH trusted advisors?
Never mind
"Her book, Bolton's book and all the other books seem reasonably consistent, and consistent with observed reality. Nothing to see here."
Really? Before he was elected, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Don King, to name a few, loved Trump. There is absolutely no way you could coldly state that Trump was/is a racist based on the photos that are freely available online.
If I had to guess, I would say he spent more time and had more interaction with black people than a guy like Bloomberg ever did.
But let's say it's true that Trump secretly hates blacks. How do you explain prison reform?
A person has to be a complete scumbag to stab her own uncle in the back for thirty pieces of silver.
"I don’t think he can even formulate a full sentence anymore. He is so impaired."
You misspelled Biden.
@Lloyd above:
Ike was POTUS when the troops were sent into Little Rock. Stevenson had nothing to do with that decision.
ARM said
I feel worst for Drago.
I've noticed reality has set in. Lefty commenters have been reduced to mumbling to themselves. Sad.
That anyone would believe these gross and frankly impossible smears just speaks to the complete idiotic gullibility of women in general and Democrats in particular. Otherwise the post would have started with the chronology being an obvious fraud.
No, I'm just going to point out that Simon and Schuster has been dominated by people like Weidman, Kaplan, Gottlieb, and Schuster himself since the beginning, so the use of Big Lie tactics to advance their poisonous agenda is nothing new for people who notice. As an elite New York publisher, they've had an intense partnership with the Clintons that increasingly looks like illegal campaign contributions for a particular failure. The elite book publishers are a major source of power for the international left, and gatekeepers of knowledge generally- centralized, wealthy, and concentrated in a city that we've seen is particularly vulnerable to plague and crime. I genuinely believe the next four years are going to be outright ruinous for these people, which is why they're ready to burn down every other support of American life to stop Donald Trump from being the architect of their collapse.
And they're going to fail.
Joe Smith said...
If I had to guess, I would say he spent more time and had more interaction with black people than a guy like Bloomberg ever did.
7/18/20, 11:03 AM
As seen from the NFL to Nick Cannon, there's a very substantial slice of black people who absolutely hate the Jews for a variety of reasons. I don't doubt that people who despise Bloomberg and his overt ownership of the Democrats would give Trump a second look solely based on that hatred.
NB: "If Bloomberg owned the Democrats, wouldn't he be their candidate?" is a question I expect the generally obtuse to persist in asking. You can consider Bloomberg's spectacular electoral failure to be part of a grand plan, but I do not. I think it's nothing simpler than the man's overarching desire to be a beloved, popular, and tall figure, which he was flattered into by his various sycophants. It's not enough to merely be an oligarch, he has to be loved for it. I would call it a sickness of his particular outgroup, but then Hillary Clinton had the disease even more deeply, and she was never truly a member of the same club.
She looks like a whole life of "That's not funny".
Looking left or right doesn’t indicate lying, but doing it the way Mary did, and her demeanor and facial expressions otherwise, mostly her flat affect, indicate someone very ill ease in front of a camera, possibly due to inexperience, or someone with mental problems. Her behavior was not normal or indicative of health, neither in this interview, nor in the one with Stephanopoulos. Mental illness is often accommodated, and hidden, in someone of Mary’s privileged status, especially among women.
I’m not diagnosing her, but I’m predicting that she’ll end up institutionalized. Her protected status, and HIPAA laws, may keep us from learning about it.
if you recall, he was the panthers atty at the leonard bernstein
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/attorney-advocating-new-york-prosecution-roger-stone-previously-represented-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein-argued-exoneration/
Trump claims his parents couldn’t “stand” their own granddaughter? How old was this granddaughter when the grandparents died? Was she an adult or was she still a child? Oh my, such wonderful parents and grandparents.
"When Trump gets re-elected, does this stuff stop?"
Of course not- we haven't yet gotten the tell-all book from Trump's 4th cousin three times removed, nor the book from the brother-in-law of the sister of Trump's barber from high school.
It would be interesting to count how many times Mary Trump looked to the right and looked to the left. She did both. On the two crucial questions at the end, she looked to the left both times. Truth.
In short Mary claims that Trump was abused by his father. As a professional psychologist, she decided the solution was to write a book further abusing him which will cause him more psychological pain. So Mary and Fred are both Trump abusers, but a Mary is professional who is charged with caring for people who are abused. Isn’t Mary a f’ed up person? Will any media person ask her what motivates her besides money? I did not know that psychology was all about hurting victims.
Iowan2: "I've noticed reality has set in. Lefty commenters have been reduced to mumbling to themselves. Sad."
ARM made the mistake of going all in, and I mean ALL IN, on the ChiCom lies starting in January and ARM kept up the Beijing/WHO talking points dialed to "11" right up until approximately May when all the lies collapsed and western nations across the globe starting chunking the purposely defective ChiCom tests/gear back at them while simultaneously multiple nations (Britain, France, Australia, etc) went very public with how the ChiComs were threatening them regarding use of Huawei 5G equipment and using ChiCom sponsored centers in those nations as clearinghouses for stolen technology.
On top of that, Trump has Japan ramping up military spending and offensive capabilities and Trump has rallied the Asian nations around China to confront ChiCom expansion in the South China Sea.
All on top of continued massive tariffs against the ChiComs, attacking the ChiCom's ability to hack the US, greasing the skids for companies to move supply chains out of China and into neighboring countries, etc.
At that point ARM basically went Full Howard/Inga and the old ARM hasn't been seen since.
Howard meanwhile is still busy accusing Trump of committing War Crimes against the American people with lurid tales of massive chemical weapons attacks against "mostly peaceful" child-killing "protesters".
Yes, the liberal/left has drained all meaning from "racism" - which is why they're dropped it for "White Supremacists". Look for people on the Center-Right to start doing the same thing. Because...stupid.
We won't really know what Mary Trump is thinking until Inga the Seer switches off her Mueller Mind-reading duties and gives us the scoop.
Although I'm still somewhat dismayed that Inga never gave us a heads up that Mueller and his team were lying all along and Mueller basically has the mentality of 7 year old waiting for his pudding.
I would have thought she would share that with us prior to the hilarious and inept Mueller "report out".
gadfly: "Honestly-pursued future investigations......"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
And screwing Mary and her brother out of her father’s share of the inheritance was unconscionable.
Gahrie said
Good expose on Trump when he was a private citizen...now do the public corruption of the Clintons and the Bidens.
Our garbage hack press will not touch.
Before Wuhan Chi Com Hillary revenge virus struck -> Black unemployment was at an all-time low.
You know, because Trump is a racist and stuff.
"As seen from the NFL to Nick Cannon, there's a very substantial slice of black people who absolutely hate the Jews for a variety of reasons."
In 1980, 'National Lampoon' put out an issue with a comic story titled 'The civiil war between the Negroes and the Jews." It was about blacks and Jews in an actual hot war killing each other in the streets.
Of course, it has been scrubbed from history and the internet, but I remember reading it.
At one point in the story, a colonel runs into a general's office at the Pentagon, and yells (I'm going from memory), "Sir, the Negroes and the Jews are killing each other. We have to do something!"
The general replies, "Are you kidding?"
Mainstream humor in the early '80s. A universe away.
glenn said...
Karl Marx wanted a classless society. Looks like we obliged him."
Brilliant! Can I steal that?
Inga, while asking rhetorical questions has some use, next time do about a half-minute of Googling and a few seconds of basic math before asking your idiotic questions. You prize dunce.
It looks to me like Maddow regrets having this woman on her show because she is not at all believable.
I assume that mostly Trump hating lefties watch the show. I wonder how many of them thought the same as Maddow about Mary Trump.
I'm surprised she didn't claim she was at Kavanaugh's rape parties, too.
Yet.
Joe Smith said...
At one point in the story, a colonel runs into a general's office at the Pentagon, and yells (I'm going from memory), "Sir, the Negroes and the Jews are killing each other. We have to do something!"
The general replies, "Are you kidding?"
Mainstream humor in the early '80s. A universe away.
7/18/20, 1:01 PM
I'm sure the entire story was built around that exchange. They do say humor is funniest when it's true...
Temujin said...
Rachel Maddow, staking her career on another Michael Avenatti. It seems to work for her and her audience who are so crazed with TDS that only more sordid Trump stories can sate them.
There is a concept associated with good news people that I will call Integrity. Where is Rachel Maddow's integrity? Answer, for her, integrity is doing what she wants.
This is a very powerful consequence of Barack Obama answer to the question of what is sin, to wit, "being out of alignment with my values."
Obviously this is very wicked and perverse. To such people, it must be very gratifying and thus compelling.
Francisco D: "It looks to me like Maddow regrets having this woman on her show because she is not at all believable."
After the hilarious tax returns episode (you have to pull up the Jimmy Dore takedown of that episode...and so many others as well) and the collapse of the obama/Hillary/Biden/comey/Brennan/Clapper/McCabe/Strzok/Page/Yates russia collusion hoax, what else is Maddow going to talk about?
Oh, I should note that Inga still believes in the russia collusion fantasy and the hoax dossier that Steele admitted in court is all a lie and for which the actual sub-source for the hoax dossier has had his testimony released where he completely blows it out of the water.
Blogger Inga said...
And screwing Mary and her brother out of her father’s share of the inheritance was unconscionable.
That's your opinion. Was it Fred Trump's to dispose of as he chose, or not? Spoiler alert: it was. I remember how you used to say, nobody knows what Mueller knows. Well, you don't know what Fred Trump knew.
I like the details in the CNN interview with Cuomo better, but go back and read the NYT series based on the 40,000 pages Mary released to the reporter to get a sense of how deep the corruption and deceit runs in the family.
"Trump breaking his silence" is how a fake news story begins.
Proud Mary keep on turning
Inga, this lady admits that her grandparents, especially Fred Sr., were not on good terms with her and her drunk dad. She was not getting that much anyway (still more than she deserves given this tell all grift).
Mary didn’t get her inheritance, her birthright, or didn’t get as much as she hoped? She got an Ivy degree, and a PhD in some kind of bullshit, so she’s still privileged. Too bad she’s from the weaker branch of the Trump family, but them’s the breaks.
And screwing Mary and her brother out of her father’s share of the inheritance was unconscionable.
Why do Lefties always feel entitled to our people's money?
Her father didn't have a "share" of the inheritance, because her grandfather didn't leave him one, as her grandfather was perfectly entitled to do. After all, that's why you write a will in the first place, to decide who gets what.
roesch/voltaire: "I like the details in the CNN interview with Cuomo better, but go back and read the NYT series based on the 40,000 pages Mary released to the reporter to get a sense of how deep the corruption and deceit runs in the family."
LOL
Ah yes. The "corruption".....that an army of DOJ/FBI/NSA/CIA operatives with an unlimited budget and unlimited access to all financial and business records across the globe of all Trump associates for the last 50 years couldn't find.
Let me guess, you agree with gadfly that the "next honest investigation" will surely come up with all the "proof" of this massive corruption that is lying about everywhere but yet somehow eludes the army of investigators looking into it all.
Yep, nothing insane about that kind of thinking r/v.
And while we are at it, can you share why you agreed with Crack that whites had invented slavery, murder, rape and lying and were at it for 300 years before any other humans started dabbling in it?
I did not know that psychology was all about hurting victims.
Mary Mengele. #PlannedPresident
Well, that, or collusion, and the JournoLists were hooked, and the partisans came tumbling after.
bagoh
Every Trump hater calls him a racist, but I never hear why he is.
They say he is a racist because he did not want Mexican rapists and gang members to come into this country.
"I like the details in the CNN interview with Cuomo better, but go back and read the NYT series based on the 40,000 pages Mary released to the reporter to get a sense of how deep the corruption and deceit runs in the family."
Oh yeah, that sounds like a good use of my time.
Blogger roesch/voltaire said...
I like the details in the CNN interview with Cuomo better, but go back and read the NYT series based on the 40,000 pages Mary released to the reporter to get a sense of how deep the corruption and deceit runs in the family.
7/18/20, 2:21 PM
Howabout just one page with actionable information on Trump's corruption and deceit?
Surely we can distill the 40,000 pages down to a single, provable accusation of something significant and illegal?
Blogger Nichevo said...
Blogger Inga said...
And screwing Mary and her brother out of her father’s share of the inheritance was unconscionable.
That's your opinion. Was it Fred Trump's to dispose of as he chose, or not? Spoiler alert: it was. I remember how you used to say, nobody knows what Mueller knows. Well, you don't know what Fred Trump knew.
You don't have to keep wearing that Blue Dress, Monica, it's completely covered.
Let’s review the charges:
1a. Trump colluded with Putin to steal the election that Hillary! was entitled to win.
1b. Trump operatives colluded with Russian operatives to undermine the Hillary! campaign.
1c. Some people connected with the Trump campaign talked to some people who may have been connected to some Russians.
1d. Trump obstructed the Mueller investigation of 1a-c.
1e. Trump didn’t cooperate with the Mueller investigation of 1a-c.
2a. Trump abused his Presidential powers by withholding military aid from Ukraine to force them to investigate Biden’s son’s corrupt relationship with a Ukrainian company.
2b. Trump approved military aid to Ukraine and didn’t get any Ukrainian cooperation in investigating Biden or the Democrat Party (unlike Biden, whose threat to withhold aid succeeded in getting the Ukrainians to call off their investigation of Biden’s son’s company – This, by the way, is the best argument for Biden being better qualified to be President than Trump).
3. Trump’s niece claims that Trump’s father (her grandfather) deprived her family of the inheritance she thinks her family was entitled to, and also turned Trump into the most dangerous person in the world.
Isn't it clear YET that if you want to oppose Trump you need to do so on the issues?
Howard said...
Blogger Nichevo said...
Blogger Inga said...
You don't have to keep wearing that Blue Dress, Monica, it's completely covered.
Huh?! Unlike Althouse, Inga might throw you a fuck for white-knighting, but I doubt you'd find the juice to be worth the squeeze.
Pulitzer Prizes were awarded on Monday to news organizations that uncovered instances of malfeasance and outright fraud in President Trump’s financial past, recognizing journalists’ perseverance in the face of the president’s ever-sharper attacks on a free press.
Char Char Binks, Esq. said...
Mary didn’t get her inheritance, her birthright, or didn’t get as much as she hoped? She got an Ivy degree, and a PhD in some kind of bullshit, so she’s still privileged. Too bad she’s from the weaker branch of the Trump family, but them’s the breaks.
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Doncha just LUV it when drooling morons like Inga lament that someone didn't get their fair share of a rich man's property when he dies---and then at the same time want to rip down the system that allows such inheritence in the first place?
SNORT
Was Donald Trump executor of the will? That's the best way to cheat someone out of their inheritance. The executor can spend most of the inheritance on bogus expenses and debts and launder the money back into their own pocket. That's how we do it in my family./sarc
So if you know that you could just tell a few lies or exaggerate a little of your family history of people who never liked you anyway, and thereby earn a quick couple million, would you do it? Maybe a little tough to pass up considering the great cost/benefit ratio. Would you pay money to read such a thing? That's the tough one to justify.
roesch/voltaire: "Pulitzer Prizes were awarded on Monday to news organizations that uncovered instances of malfeasance and outright fraud in President Trump’s financial past, recognizing journalists’ perseverance in the face of the president’s ever-sharper attacks on a free press."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I'm sure those Pulitzers are every bit as valid as the Pulitzers awarded for reporting on the hoax russian collusion lies that r/v pushed here as well, the Pulitzers awarded for the fake history 1619 project and the Pulitzer given to Walter Duranty who basically became a 1-man lie-fountain covering up Statin's mass murder.
Every bit as valid.
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