May 20, 2020

"[W]e should spend more time considering the real possibility that every problem we face will get much worse than we ever imagined."

"The coronavirus is like a heat-seeking missile designed to frustrate progress in almost every corner of society, from politics to the economy to the environment.... In a book published more than a decade ago, I argued that the internet might lead to a choose-your-own-facts world in which different segments of society believe in different versions of reality. The Trump era, and now the coronavirus, has confirmed this grim prediction. That’s because the pandemic actually has created different political realities. The coronavirus has hit dense, racially diverse Democratic urban strongholds like New York much harder than sparsely populated rural areas, which lean strongly to the G.O.P.... The virus’s economic effects will only create further inequality and division.... The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation.... Let us not squander another crisis. We need to take a long, hard look at all the ways the pandemic can push this little planet of ours to further ruin — and then work like crazy, together, to stave off the coming hell."

From "The Worst Is Yet to Come/The coronavirus and our disastrous national response to it has smashed optimists like me in the head" by Farhad Manjoo (NYT).

I don't think it's "the number of working journalists" in the country that is "our last defense against misinformation." You can have a huge number, but if they're all bad, and they're all participating in misinformation, they're no defense at all.

The last defense against misinformation is your own mind.

84 comments:

rehajm said...

What about the journalists spreading misinformation? Sounds like they're all safe.

rehajm said...

If there ever was a herd what needed culling...

rhhardin said...

It's another crisis story in the NYT.

Amadeus 48 said...

"You can have a huge number, but if they're all bad, and they're all participating in misinformation, they're no defense at all."

The way we live now.

Exceptions: Glenn Greenwald. Mollie Hemingway. Catherine Herridge.

Laslo Spatula said...

"...The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation...."

Millions forced into unemployment and recession: media essays about post-Covid kisses.

Journalists now possibly affected: CRISIS!

It sucks when your turn comes to be the cannon fodder.

I am Laslo.

stevew said...

I agree that our national response to the coronavirus pandemic has been disastrous, but probably not in the way this person means it.

Journalists jobs are disappearing not because of the pandemic nor because of the internet but because many of them and their employers ceased being journalists. This shift was in response to the creative destruction effects of the internet - they shifted from reporting news to publishing misinformation, outrage, and click-bait in an attempt to capture eye-balls and generate revenue to replace the lost print advertising.

They should get back to practicing their trade with truth and integrity, the rest will take care of itself.

rhhardin said...

I'm watching something or other series on DVD, a young boy has just been found murdered, female police superintendent and crusty old guy detective (both divorced, predict future romantic subplot) agree that no matter how long you're around, you never get used to the death of a child.

I'm thinking, it's trite and they put it in the script because it appeals to women.

When women think like that too the disinformation crisis will abate. "I am a woman and I fall for this stuff so that's why they put it in." Instead of increasing the crisis as the audience falls for it and makes it pay.

It's not exactly hard skepticism about everything but knowing what your sex falls for that the other sex doesn't.

wendybar said...

We don't have many real "Journalists" anymore. We have Progressive activists, who spew propaganda, and lately are working for CHINA too!!!

iowan2 said...

Yes, stevew. An awful response. But not phony "flatten the curve" crap the media is pushing.

We saw in real time what was happening in Italy. Old people with with defined underlying health conditions, were at risk of dying. Protecting the vulnerable would have been the only action needed.

Michael K said...

Journalism became propaganda and the usefulness has declined disastrously.

The political left seems to be living in a bubble. I have previously noted that two of my daughters are lefties. I got a supply of hydroxychloroquine for my son who is a diabetic and paramedic, as well as a conservative Republican. The daughters wanted their own supply in case they were exposed. I wonder how many Democrat politicians and reporters are also making sure they have a supply or take it prophylactically while they bash Trump ?

Lawrence Person said...

The news media in America had a choice between being profitable and being left-wing, and they overwhelmingly chose left-wing.

pacwest said...

Self awareness is a thing of the past. Comedy or tragedy?

Quayle said...

What Steve said! The news industry was destroyed by the internet, handheld phone cameras, and self-publishing, enabled by browsers and web server technology.

The lowering of journalistic standards to try to capture the shrinking market of eyeballs and maintain some stream of advertising revenue, was the industries own fault.

It must be depressing to have trained to be a buggy maker in the age of Ford, but one has to accept the reality of change and move on. Journalists have not; they pine away for the good old days of Bernstein and Woodward and Citizen Cain where the people believe what they tell us to believe.

Brian said...

This shift was in response to the creative destruction effects of the internet - they shifted from reporting news to publishing misinformation, outrage, and click-bait in an attempt to capture eye-balls and generate revenue to replace the lost print advertising.

Journalism (like many other industries) became management by spreadsheet. Parrot a party line to drive clicks which looks good on the spreadsheets for the quarter. Media consultants further the feedback cycle. Hiring choices further reinforce. All at the expense of the core business. The media business is in a graveyard spiral.

Similarly, businesses use low-cost labor in China because it looks good on the spreadsheet. But spreadsheets (like virus models) are only as good as their inputs.

The map is not the territory.

Wince said...

Althouse said...
I don't think it's "the number of working journalists" in the country that is "our last defense against misinformation." You can have a huge number, but if they're all bad, and they're all participating in misinformation, they're no defense at all.

And the one place where "diversity" isn't celebrated: opinion.

In a book published more than a decade ago, I argued that the internet might lead to a choose-your-own-facts world in which different segments of society believe in different versions of reality. The Trump era, and now the coronavirus, has confirmed this grim prediction. That’s because the pandemic actually has created different political realities. The Trump era, and now the coronavirus, has confirmed this grim prediction.

The masks slips: notice, his concern is about "political realities" (i.e., opinions), and not facts.

The virus’s economic effects will only create further inequality and division...

To wit, there does seem to be a media effort to sabotage the reopening in states that are moving forward.

The COVID 'Spike' in Reopened Texas: CNN Gets It Wrong
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/19/the_covid_spike_in_reopened_texas_cnn_gets_it_wrong_143239.html

On Sunday CNN ran a segment on the spread of COVID-19 in Texas. The news channel promoted it with the jarring tweet “Texas is seeing the highest number of new coronavirus cases and deaths just two weeks after it officially reopened.” The segment spotlighted 1,448 new cases and 58 new deaths, and noted the increased movement of people in the state according to cellphone data, illustrating that the public was increasingly out and about.

While technically true, this information is horribly misleading, and to the extent CNN is trying to establish a causal connection between Texas’ reopening and the increase in coronavirus diagnoses and deaths in the Lone Star State, it is simply wrong. It is so wrong that it is difficult to give the benefit of the doubt here. There are three reasons for this.

clint said...

"Smashed optimists..." Interesting. The main thing I noticed on CNN as I passed by to grab some coffee this morning was an interview with "young people" whose post-college jobs and internships had evaporated before they had even begun.

The interviewer kept using extreme emotive language like "Do you feel like the rug has been pulled out from under you before you could even get a start in life?" only to be hit by the relentless optimism of the actual people they were interviewing. Then they returned to the anchors, who talked about how great it was that those kids haven't given up even when the situation is so bleak and hopeless.

The lack of hope might be the media's theme of the day, but I'm pretty sure most people aren't looking at the start of summer with the virus and the lockdowns both receding and thinking about how to "stave off the coming hell."

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The primary crisis we face is that we have an idiot for president.

Donald Trump's socially-distanced cabinet back his use of hydroxy, insist it is safe even though none of them are using it and show him debit cards embossed with his name which will be used for stimulus payments in front of Ivanka, Jared and Hope Hicks

Paco Wové said...

In these dark times, I still find things to be optimistic about. Farhad Manjoo being disheartened is like a tiny little ray of hope.

stlcdr said...

A consensus of journalists said so, so it must be true. (?)

RichAndSceptical said...

Is nut job too strong a response?

Darrell said...

Just trust in God.
It always worked for me.

David Begley said...

Is it a problem that the whole country doesn’t believe the NYT and WaPo now? I think it is freedom.

And is this guy blind? Doesn’t he know that the Fake News were a critical part of the entirely false Russia hoax? It was a coup attempt. It was all a Dem lie!

Jupiter said...

"The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry ..."

That is what is known as a self-limiting phenomenon. Although it does seem like there should be a simpler way of getting rid of Farhad Manjoo.

Tjj said...

Since 5 recent studies suggest that the Wuhan coronavirus cases /deaths are about that of the flu, with similar at risk populations, I trust reporters will report just as breathlessy each influenza case/death in the coming fall influenza pandemic.

Sebastian said...

""The Worst Is Yet to Come/The coronavirus and our disastrous national response to it has smashed optimists like me in the head"

The worst is yet to come in developing countries and as a result of the overreaction fallout. The response was indeed disastrously expensive, and a failure in blue states.

"That’s because the pandemic actually has created different political realities."

Political realities already differed before: most red states had responsible governance, blue states not so much.

"The coronavirus has hit dense, racially diverse Democratic urban strongholds like New York much harder than sparsely populated rural areas, which lean strongly to the G.O.P"

Umm, yeah-- aggregated by policies imposed by Dems.

"The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation"

Huh? This in a paper that for three years peddled fake collusion news, rewarded by an establishment Pulitzer.

"We need to take a long, hard look at all the ways the pandemic can push this little planet of ours to further ruin — and then work like crazy, together, to stave off the coming hell."

Hey, didn't you just say that the pandemic affects different places differently? That it's actually not hell for most Americans? And as always, for progs "together" means: you pay.

Leaving aside, of course, that the ruin lies in the reaction.

Birkel said...

The virus motivated people to change behavior.
The government response guaranteed the economic collapse and further suffering.

The NYT misses the story, again.

MayBee said...

In this case, the journalists have made the problem much worse. Ditto the Russian Collusion reporting.
They all imagine themselves the guy who investigated Theranos. They are mostly in reality just attention seekers.

The Minnow Wrangler said...

Amadeus 48 said, "Exceptions: Glenn Greenwald. Mollie Hemingway. Catherine Herridge." I would add Megan McArdle although her reactions have been colored by her being in quarantine for two weeks with her father, who was positive for COVID-19. I despise Greenwald's politics (socialist) but I have found him to be honest for the most part. Also Matt Taibbi.

tim maguire said...

Let us not squander another crisis.

There, I stripped away all the BS to get to what's real.

David Begley said...

Another Omaha World-Herald reporter left yesterday. For a government job.

The only thing left in the IWH are the obits, Big Red and crime.

Leland said...

They are starting to lose their jobs, even working from home, and now the problem is misinformation that others are spreading? Who spent three years telling us Trump colluded with Russia? Has Chuck Todd, Chris Cuomo, or MSNBC's anchors lost their jobs?

Now for a slap of reality; the news is losing viewers (print or televised) because there is no news to report. More than half of content was driven by coverage of sports and entertainment, which isn't working from home (though they try). The weather is important, but not 24/7. Politics is certainly a major staple, but when the politics is entirely about one subject, COVID, and not about other subjects, mass house arrest of Americans and use of government assets to spy on an opposition party; then that subject gets old fast. Some may prefer boring, but once bored, they tune out.

Also, when businesses can't operate; they can't buy ads that sustain the news media business model. Sure, some will, but not with the demand that pays Mike Wallace's salary.

Andrew said...

This excerpt filled me with joy. May the self-righteous, sanctimonious purveyors of "journalism" watch in horror as their tribe becomes extinct.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

I feel for journalists, at least for good ones. I remember enjoying long-form journalism, and a certain easy exchange of ideas. Frankly there was something to be said for tolerating certain kinds of kook--it seemed to go with allowing excellence to flourish. My naive 60s and 70s view. TV talking heads were always kind of a joke. Someone like Cronkite got a job by looking and sounding good. Suddenly he can give us lectures on Vietnam and the environment? It's like 50s thinking--he looks the respectable part, so it's wonderful if he agrees to take a kid for a picnic in the country. Sorry, that's a bit nasty.

Journalism skewed a bit to the left. Buckley and others almost had to come with a consumer warning--conservative!--but partly by his charm and wit, he kept himself in the game. Reagan challenged the belief that progressives could mostly sit back--progress was going to happen. He sharpened the conservatives' sense that anyone who disagreed with them was not only mistaken but somehow evil. The anti-Reagan backlash responded in kind, sharpening the sense that conservatives are heartless to the poor, women, etc. Confirmation hearings for Supreme Court justices become life and death battles between political factions, with decent and accomplished people suffering as "collateral damage."

Trump is somehow a backlash against all the accomplished elites at once. I get the argument that we need some or most of these elites, most of the time, so we shouldn't encourage a reckless or moralistic attack on them. God help me, I find it exhilarating and funny. Insofar as the left believes more in history than in nature, they will be prepared to sacrifice science; it is simply not true that we should trust them because they are always on the side of science.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I guess they can't work from home anymore and are getting laid off like everyone else. Now it's a crisis!

Howard said...

Neutron bomb is a better metaphor and a heat-seeking missile. Does terrorist types always think too small

Tom T. said...

Notice how Manjoo uses the passive voice to describe how the virus hit places like New York, so as not to draw attention to the policy decisions that allowed the virus to hit so hard there.

RMc said...

The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country

At least something good is coming out of all this.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I feel bad for people who think the world ends when Republicans win elections. Because that's half the time. What a way to live.

Roger Sweeny said...

Wow. Unlike most of the commenters, I feel sad at the decline, both quantitatively and qualitatively, of journalists. Good journalism is indispensable.

But Manjoo reminds me of the people who asserted that gay people would undermine marriage if they were allowed to legally marry. One reply was that straight people had already done a lot of undermining.

rhhardin said...

I'm staying away from crows. Corvid-19.

GRW3 said...

I see he once again rolls out the "facts" gambit. The world is really complex, often filled with contradictory facts. When confronted with all the available facts, prediction becomes hard. Therefore, we work on instinct and training to order the facts for importance.

Examine the facts associated with CNN's "Texas suffering for opening" report. Fact reported: Infection numbers are spiking. Fact left out: Testing increased significantly.
Fact reported: Deaths are increasing. Facts not reported: Deaths don't go down and, for the Wuhan virus, they follow several weeks from infection and are, thus, a trailing indicator.

Bob Boyd said...

Pomposity Perishes in Pandemics

Michael K said...

ARM is hopelessly infected with TDS. HCQ will not help.

Limited blogger said...

The left has this huge army of 'journolists', spraying disinformation everywhere.

The right has one - Trump. Keeping it real.

I'm Not Sure said...

The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation....

Moving in on Babylon Bee territory, I see. Lemons, lemonade...

Pookie Number 2 said...

Wow. Unlike most of the commenters, I feel sad at the decline, both quantitatively and qualitatively, of journalists.

I think most of the commenters lament the decline in the quality and quantity of journalists. We just don’t think that rising unemployment amongst thoughtless propagandists is related.

velvetbob said...

I think most journalists function as the "shock troops" of misinformation.

Skeptical Voter said...

Ah Farhad--like most progressives you seem to believe that history either started yesterday, or the earliest, the day you were born. You say journalism might die because of Covid-19. Well Buckwheat, you should look out on the left coast and the sorry debacle that is the Los Angeles Times. Years ago the LA Times landed on the doorstep with a heavy thud. It had several hundred pages of lightweight journalism and heavy weight ads. But it was big, it was bold, and the paper employed a couple of thousand "journalists". After all the owners needed something to fill in around the advertising. Well the advertising went away. And so did most of the "journalists". There were waves of layoffs. The only "journalists" that survived the layoffs were those possessed compromising pictures of the editors/publishers in intimate connections with four legged beasts. They sold their iconic downtown office building and moved to the suburbs. They downsized with vigor! And all of this was pre Donald Trump and pre Covid-19. And now the Times that lands on my doorstep weighs no more than a feather dropped from the wing of a sparrow. The only paid advertising in it is obituaries.

LA_Bob said...

Yes, Manjoo laments that "professional journalists" no longer have a monopoly on misinformation. What a cruel thing competition is.

Sam L. said...

The NYT?? I despise, detest, and distrust the NYT. The WaPoo, too!

Kai Akker said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
"The primary crisis we face is that we have an idiot for president."

Very reassuring, thank you!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

This was an interesting subject two hours ago when I commented. See you tomorrow.

rcocean said...

Yeah, we need journalists who seek the truth. When is the NYT going to hire some?

Kevin Walsh said...

What Manjoo is REALLY lamenting is the possible loss of advocacy journalism. As Glenn Greenwald put it recently:

"the very journalists who were most wrong in peddling false conspiracy theories were exactly those who ended up most rewarded on the ground that even though they spread falsehoods, they did so for the right cause."

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/18/ben-smiths-nyt-critique-of-ronan-farrow-describes-a-toxic-corrosive-and-still-vibrant-trump-era-pathology-resistance-journalism/

rcocean said...

Hilarious. Is there any profession -outside of the Lawyers -where the gap between their professed self-regard and the public's view is so great?

rehajm said...

Journalists now possibly affected: CRISIS!

You just know buried somewhere in the government bailout bills there's bailout money for media. No strings attached.

Meanwhile, if you're a corporation hit hard by the shutdown there's loans available if you're willing to eat every leftie agenda line item on race and gender and climate change and inequality.

This morning the usual economic 'experts' aligned with the left are talking about the necessity of bailouts for state and local governments. If GOP is smart they'll lard up acceptance of bailout money with requirements for spendthrifts to clean up their acts or pound sand.

If the GOP is smart...

rehajm said...

I wonder how many Democrat politicians and reporters are also making sure they have a supply or take it prophylactically while they bash Trump ?

The exact same amount of Democrats and reporters who will cut in line for the vaccine.

Nichevo said...

Rhhardin outputs: ... agree that no matter how long you're around, you never get used to the death of a child.

I'm thinking, it's trite and they put it in the script because it appeals to women.



Thinking? Is that what you call it?

You with all your pretense of education and high culture have never heard of Gustav Mahler's Kindertotenlieder, literally, Songs on the Death of Children?

Somebody needs to reboot you.

Kevin said...

If only we had a Democrat as President.

Then Pelosi could fund a bailout of the news media under the guise America would be fundamentally destroyed without the ability of the Dems to push their memes and countermemes.

What's another trillion to keep the lackeys typing and even more indebted to you since they didn't have to take some crappy corporate communications position to buy ramen?

Original Mike said...

"The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation."

Perhaps the biggest story of this young century and it's destroying the news industry? Perhaps you're doing this "news industry" thing wrong.

Robert Cook said...

"The last defense against misinformation is your own mind."

Alas, many people are completely defenseless.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

“This was an interesting subject two hours ago when I commented. See you tomorrow”

Turns out Blogger ate those earlier comments. If I recall what I said maybe I’ll repeat it. You guys pretty much covered the pouncing seizing theme anyway.

Original Mike said...

"but not with the demand that pays Mike Wallace's salary."

Surly that can't be much. His needs are small.

Robert Cook said...

"Journalists jobs are disappearing not because of the pandemic nor because of the internet but because many of them and their employers ceased being journalists. This shift was in response to the creative destruction effects of the internet - they shifted from reporting news to publishing misinformation, outrage, and click-bait in an attempt to capture eye-balls and generate revenue to replace the lost print advertising."

The crisis in journalism--precisely, the ongoing erasure of jobs for journalists and the loss of available serious journalism for interested readers--has to do with the dying off of daily newspapers, and the potential near-term extinction of daily papers as a channel for news. Daily papers are dying because fewer people read them: most people are content to consume headline blurbs from their digital devices, from television, or through social media. Only long-form journalism can really provide in-depth reporting, context, and considered analysis of the meaning of the facts as they are known. Only a multiplicity of different news sources providing independent and (subtly or dramatically) different reporting/analysis of the facts can provide discerning citizens sufficient opportunity to compare and contrast alternative versions of the news, which is necessary for one to develop one's own understanding of what is really happening.

Robert Cook said...

"I despise Greenwald's politics (socialist) but I have found him to be honest for the most part. Also Matt Taibbi."

What makes you think Greenwald is a socialist, and--if his reporting is honest--what bearing would or does this have on his public function as a journalist?

Craig said...

Why are the people who talk about "believing science" the dumbest people in the room? Ironic.

Lurker21 said...

Another chicken or egg question. Reporters have long had a liberal bias, but when their publications or networks had to compete for a mass audience, they had to keep their own views under control. In a more fragmented media environment, where each outlet has only a small share of the the market, each outlet tries to hold on to a smaller, more specific audience, and reporters can indulge their own prejudices and predilections much more.

The decline of old media was also parallel by demographic shifts. The old corporate bosses might have been Republicans. The new ones aren't. The big metropolitan areas used to be more competitive between the two parties. They haven't been for some time. Democrats used to be divided on social issues. They aren't any more. Partisanship has increased. All this gave reporters more freedom to do what they wanted to do anyway. Bias drove some readers and viewers away, but more were slipping away because of the internet, and the fact that the new audience was so much smaller and so much more more homogeneous led to even greater bias.

cubanbob said...

The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation...."

One needs a heart of stone not to laugh. Apparently the progs are learning that Leftist propagandists are not essential workers. No bailouts for you!

Lurker21 said...

Greenwald's article on the Smith-Farrow tussle is worth a look. It sounds like Smith makes Farrow a scapegoat for the rumor-based, light on facts "resistance" journalism that the Times and the other prestige media have been practicing themselves. Other details: The Post singling out an unhinged conspiracy blogger for praise for trying to turn her confidential source into the FBI, and the strange way that neocon propagandists like Frum and Kristol have turned themselves into nevertrump propagandists.

LakeLevel said...

The old paradigm of newspapers and networks controlling the flow of news is reeling from this latest body blow. If this is a knockout punch, good riddance. It hasn't worked for half the population for quite some time. It will be replaced with something. Google and Facebook and others are jockeying for position to control the new paradigm as it emerges. I'm hoping for something differnt like an open source UPI with independent journalists and groups contributing and cashing in. Unfortunately, this seems unlikely to occur since our journalist class seems to have very little capability in business or in anything else.

Robert Cook said...

"The left has this huge army of 'journolists', spraying disinformation everywhere.

"The right has one - Trump. Keeping it real."



If you think Trump is "keeping it real," you show you have zero capacity to discern information from disinformation.

Matt said...

I think its simply ADORABLE that this guy still thinks journalists are a defense against fake news rather than the main purveyor. How precious!

Gk1 said...

Hah, reading "woe is me" articles from the liberal media like this makes me happy. It's like learning the family down the street that used to throw eggs at your house and knock over your trash cans have all been arrested and evicted. Learn to code! :-)

Temujin said...

"The last defense against misinformation is your own mind."

You are, of course, correct. The last place we want to be in, after watching our Journalist! class over the past 3 decades, is to have to depend on Journalists! as a defense against misinformation. Jesus. What they don't get about themselves could fill vast stadiums.

narciso said...

they could rehire alex Berenson, he's the one whose actually doing data mining of these cases, but that will never happen, they fell for the Russia hoax the Ukraine hoax, they enabled the fraud against ted stevens, Stephen hatfill, the blood libel against palin,

Tomcc said...

He considers himself an optimist?
In any event, I agree with our hostess that one's last defense against misinformation is your own mind. Read what you can, where you can. Consider that information and compare it with your own experiences and observations. Act accordingly.
To paraphrase Gregg Easterbrook (TMQ): "There's always time to panic later."

Kai Akker said...

"The last defense against misinformation is your own mind." --AA

Right. The only issue regarding that is that so few who were fed into the American educational machine came out the other end capable of critical thinking.

WhoKnew said...

The description of our current media as the last defense against misinformation is the first thing that made me laugh out loud today.

Ken B said...

More data for your cohort of denialists to deny
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1262012815663149058.html

Jim at said...

The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation

Dishonesty exceeded only by arrogance.

Rick said...

The virus-induced recession could further destroy the news industry and dramatically reduce the number of working journalists in the country, our last defense against misinformation....

The overwhelming majority of these people just participated in the greatest public disinformation campaign in American history. Not only are journalists not a defense against misinformation they actively and enthusiastically support it.

Ozymandias said...

Agree as to professionalism, integrity, etc., re Greenwald, Taibbi, et al.
Add Aaron Mate and Mike Tracey, two other leading Russia-gate skeptics.

Caligula said...

Journalists seem nearly universally ignorant of the methods of science, let alone how statistics are used (and sometimes abused) in scientific research.

An honest and competent journalist (Diogenes? Hello, Diogenes??) may provide you with an insightful view of some political situation, but, relying on even that mythic honest and competent journalist to understand even the rudiments of science is almost always asking for more than one can reasonably expect.

Russell said...

Every time I see an article talking about a spike in cases without any reference or context on testing (and testing has been scaling up rapidly for a solid month), I think I question this idea that working journalists are our last defense against misinformation.