Your post-pandemic life is not all that different to your pre-pandemic life, is it?Answer:
That is my guilty truth. I stay home and I drink smoothies and I work on music and I go hiking and I read books and I occasionally watch bad TV. It’s not all that different, but I have a sense of guilt around that and the only way I can assuage that guilt is by respecting and listening to what other people are going through.He has such a raging conscientiousness that it seems jerky to needle him like this, but I've got to say that looking at other people's pain for the purpose of assuaging your own sense of guilt isn't empathy for them, nor is it helping them. It's comforting yourself. It's another smoothie.
(To be fair: He is giving money to charity.)
ALSO: He talks about reading comments in social media:
This is kind of a disgusting comparison, but comments are like a single pubic hair in a beautiful plate of food. If you get 100 wonderful comments and one nasty one, all you notice is the nasty one. If you have a beautiful plate of food and there’s one pubic hair in it, you don’t notice the beautiful plate of food, you notice the pubic hair. If you’re walking down the street and a drunk screams at you, you dismiss it. “That’s a drunk, they don’t know me, why would I take their words to heart?” Give that same drunk an iPhone and have them comment on one of your posts, all of a sudden it ruins your week.Oh, Moby. Don't give the commenters that kind of power!
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Nobody's "post-pandemic" yet.
moby is the leftwinger who posed as a Right-winger to subvert their blogs. I assume he's Gay.
Is it wrong that I can’t read that pubic hair analogy without thinking of a Coke can?
It all depends on whose pubic hair it is.
Is that a real tattoo on Moby's neck?
VEGAN
FOR
LIFE
"That's an odd thing to get tattooed on your neck."
No more knob touching when you have to maintain a six foot distance. Poor Mobs!
"I feel guilty because, under ordinary conditions, I don't struggle emotionally with a lifestyle that's now being forced on people who do struggle with it."
That's called "neurosis."
Wouldn't it be wonderful if they threw a Mass Guilt psyop and no one showed up. It would be like going from darkness to light.
Why did Moby feel the need to explain his metaphor? Did he really think we wouldn’t get it?
I don’t know why he felt the need to say Moby’s gay (or, even odder, Gay), but he’s right to being up The singer Moby as the source of the term “Moby” to mean a form of taqiyya—a liberal who lies about holding conservative views in order to misrepresent them to make conservatives look dumb or evil.
"He has such a raging conscientiousness that it seems jerky to needle him like this, but I've got to say that looking at other people's pain for the purpose of assuaging your own sense of guilt isn't empathy for them, nor is it helping them"
So Moby feels bad because others are suffering but he is not. There has to be a German word for that. It isnt Gluckschmerz, a which means feeling unhappy about the good fortune of others. And it is closer to but isnt Schadenfreude which means feeling pleasure at the suffering of others.
Maybe it's small conscientiousness the size of big conscientiousness. Or the author is a big jerk the size of a small jerk.
Who put that pubic hair on my Coke?
Until I get a Concern Troll's opinion, how am I to know what a Moby should think?
The goal is to get back to the normal that people want.
That entails freedom.
Freedom to drink smoothies.
Freedom to be a jerk.
Let's get back to those freedoms.
work on music
I've always loved this version of Howlin' Wolf's "Commit a Crime", but the other day I found one with a different guitar part, now I'm playing both of them every morning.
Oh, yeah Moby - he's the guy who shows up in the search results when you try to figger out what MOBY is supposed to mean.
The man who pioneered asshole commenting now complains about asshole commenting.
Moby doesn't surprise me, one key to asshole commenting is exempting yourself from the standards you apply. But why would Althouse accept this premise from him instead of recognizing the man who has done so much to politicize social media does not deserve support.
Well, assuming Moby is financially well off, and can easily afford to stay home and drink smoothies, my response is a resounding, Duh!
Yes, if you have a lotta assets, and don't have to work much, pre=pandemic life ain't that much different than post-pandemic life.
Now, let's move out of our comfort zone and think about the barbers, taxi-drivers, airline stewards, hotel managers, casino dealers, small businessmen, antique dealers, used-book store owners, and the millions of folks who actually have to work for a living to pay the bills and support their families.
"If you have a beautiful plate of food and there’s one pubic hair in it"
Can you really tell it's public hair? Does thinking it's public hair make the situation worse or better?
Some day, maybe we will finally get beyond "I don't like him. He must be gay."
Moby is in the Robert Redford bubble. The more he wants to demonstrate that he's not just another privileged rich White guy bubble the more his actions confirm that he is just another privileged rich White guy.
I listened to some Moby, he's like a Kinder, Gentler® NIN.
"...looking at other people's pain for the purpose of assuaging your own sense of guilt..."
This perfectly nails a definition for today's version of Liberalism.
And I would add that those Liberals who look at themselves and find no 'honorable pain', then work hard to find a place of victimhood or pain for themselves. So that someone out there, anyone, can feel bad for them as well.
I understand that this sort of moby:
moby
An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.
is named after him so he would know first hand about his analogy of pubic hairs and negative comments.
Does thinking it's public [I like to say that too!] hair make the situation worse or better?
Would that not depend on to whom the public hair originally belonged, wouldn't it not?
I guess if your life consists of smoothies and TV, then yea, shutdowns are no big deal for you, but then again, neither is getting the virus. I mean what's the worst that can happen, they sell a couple less smoothies?
Am I the only one out here looking for less reasons to live?
He's such a Moby.
The presence of a pubic hair on my food would not stop me from eating anything, and that has created a lot of happiness in the world, temporary as it may be.
Moby complaining about awful comments? That's awfully rich. There's an entire class of terrible blog comments *named* after him. The one where a liberal goes on a conservative blog and tries to make the blog look bad by being as awful a person as possible. See: Killgore Trout on hotair circa 2009.
"Does thinking it's public [I like to say that too!] hair"
Ouch. Sorry. I usually commit the typo the other way around!
Moby complaining about "pubic hairs" seems absurd since in reality he has been, in his own description of such a person, so often "the pubic hair."
But the thing I find more interesting is how one person can at the same time be so creative and so constructive in some things (I think his music is great) while at the same time being such a negative force in others.
Who has put pubic hair on Moby's Coke?
My Spousal Unit is kind of in heaven, being something of both an introvert and germaphobe. Working from home and everyone conforming to her hygiene practices!
Althouse: ...I've got to say that looking at other people's pain for the purpose of assuaging your own sense of guilt isn't empathy for them, nor is it helping them.
I need clarification. Are you saying that "respecting and listening to what other people are going through" doesn't help them, period? Or does it somehow only not help them if you're doing it for the wrong reasons?
Paco Wové said...
Nobody's "post-pandemic" yet.
Approximately 317,000 people world-wide were unavailable for comment...
The new, all-purpose preposition/adverb: "around"
Who has put pubic hair "around" Moby's Coke?
By the way, there are some folks here who know all about being a Moby.
Other than questionable entertainment value what is the point of asking the celebrity elite about the effect of the pandemic on them? It has no relevance to the real lives of real people. Journalists think we all live in their bubble or are at least enthralled by it.
Mine is strikingly similar. Deliberately so. No guilt and no hiding. Uncle Sucka gave me a cash gift for no apparent reason, though. So that’s super cool.
Trying to alleviate guilt is the primary motivation behind most white progressives.
That's why it's not particularly concerned about outcome or actual answers for the actual sufferers. People being helped is only secondary to whether guilt is alleviated. And one way to alleviate guilt without personal change is to create a list of villains to feel morally strong about attacking.
This isn't unique to progressives, as there is a lot of examples of this in religious circles too ('I don't want to give up my sin, so will make myself feel better by the sins of others'). But the religious version is well known, while the progressive version still tries to posture as non-egocentric.
"He's such a Moby.”
Never the same since he got stomped by Obie.
Moby says two interesting, honest things that get under Althouse's skin precisely because they're interesting and honest, and then her dopey commenters trip over themselves proving they have no idea who Moby even is.
On the off chance someone here is interested in finding out more about him, there are two good interviews with Moby I'd recommend, a shorter one with Alec Baldwin on Here's the Thing and a longer and better one with Bret Easton Ellis. Both are free for the hunting online.
Eminem deserves the last word on Moby.
And Moby? You can get stomped by Obie
You 36-year-old baldheaded fag, blow me
You don't know me, you're too old, let go
It's over, nobody listens to techno
Moby's conscience had led him to criticize Eminem's lack of political correctness, so basically Moby has always been a virtue-signaling, conscientious and annoying concern troll.
Earnest Prole, I have just searched and searched for Bret Easton Ellis's interview of Moby and I'm not finding it.
I've done at least five different searches that should have pulled it up, or so I think.
I did find Bret Easton Ellis's channel on YouTube and I note that five out of 13 of his interviews posted to YouTube have been deleted.
Is it possible that YouTube is in the process of cancelling Bret Easton Ellis? I'm guessing this means he's been straying off the progressive plantation.
" Oh, Moby. Don't give the commenters that kind of power! "
I wish it was that easy. When you're in the grip of a neurosis, it's terribly hard to do anything but give into it.
I've had moments when I can't open an email from someone, even a loved one, even if I know there's nothing wrong with it. It's so much easier to let go and ignore it.
It bothers me a lot, but I think there's a lot of people like me; people who are afraid to say anything publicly, so they go along with the tide. The quiet people, and maybe they find a way to act out that's safe. Or they internalize their anger and not being able to express themselves and lash out.
I have zero interest in Moby, but still loved this episode of the Heavyweight podcast in which he is a key character.
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/heavyweight/brholm
It is somewhat endearing the way Moby lets it all hang out there. Too bad I don't like what he's got.
So in other words, he's still creeping around Natalie Portman's place.
I have just searched and searched for Bret Easton Ellis's interview of Moby and I'm not finding it.
Here you go.
His thoughts on Bob Seger's "We've Got Tonight" are alone worth the listen.
If one nasty comment ruined a whole comment chain, would Althouse have had even a single post with a readable comment chain? If we were all like this Moby, every post and its associated comments would have spread disaster to quivering sensitivities faster than the corona virus. TRUMP IS THE GREATEST. Every day dozens of Althouse followers would be found at homes all across America, slumped over before their screens. Instead we find them, whistling while they work, practicing slash and burn commenting as they try to seed new thoughts in the closed, overgrown jungle of the minds around them. Killfile, the Round-Up of online commenting, is regularly explained. Offense is regularly taken as if toxicity were a tonic strengthening those who imbibe for fresh offense to be taken the next day. What did Biden know and when did he forget it? All part of the great pageant.
Thanks Earnest Prole, I enjoyed the interview.
Moby sure doesn't sound like a person that would pretend to be someone that he wasn't. In fact he doesn't sound at all like the kind of person that would be:
"An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question."
which is from the Urban Dictionary. And they go on to say:
"The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge: “For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you’re an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion. Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, ‘What’s all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?’”
I don't know. I think the subject might possibly have been on Brett Ellis's mind since they spent some time talking about online commenting.
I suspect that Moby regrets doing that. He did spend a fair amount of time talking about honesty in the interview.
According to Wikipedia, he engages in "nonpartisan activism."
Wikipedia also said, "In January 2018, he stated that he was approached by friends in the CIA and told to post and spread content on the Trump–Russian collusion allegations through social media.[154][155]"
I don't know. But people sometimes do change.
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