A press release from the U.S. Department of Justice.
So... it's an Illinois state law question that belongs in Illinois state court, which is where it
If you're trying to remember the recent post here about Darren Bailey — it's here, 2 days ago. He was the one Illinois legislator who refused to wear a mask in the legislative chamber and got kicked out.
CORRECTION: As the heading of this post says, the case is in an "an Illinois federal court," so I was wrong to write "it's an Illinois state law question that belongs in Illinois state court, which is where it is."
ADDED: Here's a Chicago Sun Times article explaining that Pritzer filed on Thursday to remove the case to federal court, which he has the right to do under federal law if Bailey has stated a federal cause of action: "The governor made the move on the grounds that Bailey alleged a violation of his federal constitutional rights. [Bailey's lawyer] denied that Bailey had raised such a claim." Another Bailey lawyer says the effort to remove to federal court is “perhaps the most outrageous invocation of federal jurisdiction imaginable" and "an egregious attempt to neuter a state court."
So the DOJ's statement isn't about the hint of federal law in the background. It's about the federalism value letting state courts determine the meaning and application of state law. This isn't just a matter of letting states function separately in our federal system. It's a matter of getting an authoritative interpretation of state law.
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belongs in Illinois state court, which is where it is
Press release says the Governor moved it to Federal court. Dickhead.
“Might violate due process in some way, might not "serve the goals of our broader federal structure" — whatever that means.”
Isn’t that the basic operation of the Incorporation Doctrine?
Incorporation Doctrine. A constitutional doctrine whereby selected provisions of the Bill of Rights are made applicable to the states through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. ... Until the early twentieth century, the Bill of Rights was interpreted as applying only to the federal government.
States rights!
Troublemaker!
The one thing we can be sure of is that when this gets to the highest reaches of Illinois institutions, the interests of the government of the United States and its people will be ignored or dismissed.
We are a sanctuary state. The federal writ runneth not here.
I'm not a lawyer, but I guess I have to question why this is a question of state law since the relevant law seems to have expired.
Since you are moderating comments here, you have already seen that the case was removed to federal court by Jabba.
I have a friend who is a professor at Northwestern’s Pritzker School of Law. (Yes, Jabba made a substantial naming gift to his legal alma mater from his inherited billions). Every time I see my friend he mutters, “I could have flunked him. I could have flunked him.”
The Clinton administration was pretty quick to move the Rodney King case to federal civil rights law when the LAPD cops, who had saved King's life, were acquitted by a jury of their peers.
All due respect, the Chicago Sun-Times should not be a go to source for anything. "Hardest working newspaper" is their motto and they somehow manage to miss half the stories. Guess which half.
If the State of Illinois is a party to this action, it will now have a poor chance of success with an 11th Amendment defense.
The Elite Pritzker sent his wife down to Florida, and has construction workers working on his mansion, but you little peons must stay in your homes, and don't you dare go to CHURCH!!! Heathens.
Pritzker’s behavior reminds me of H.L. Mencken’s line about people getting what they voted for, and getting it good and hard.
Bruce Rauner was a real disappointment as governor, but Jabba has been awful beyond my wildest nightmares.
He has not done a single thing to address the financial fallout from his over-broad, under-thought lockdown scheme. Old folks are dying like flies in nursing homes, sunlight and fresh air kills the virus but the lake front is closed, and most of the state is under emergency directives long after the emergency has passed. Number of state employees furloughed or fired: zero.
Who is worse—Jabba or Heil Whitmer?
Answer: they are both bad in their own way.
Pritzker is reliably wrong about everything and a tyrant besides who claims to rely on “science” even though actual science refutes his draconian and unnecessary lockdown — so he lies with impunity too.
Just a terrible leader in every imaginable way.
The Illinois Governor can do pretty much anything and 48% of Illinois will vote for him. That's why the state is what it is. Its California with bad weather.
Does the Catholic Church in the USA ever do or say anything to stop the Left from trampling on Religious liberty? No matter what the Pols do - especially the Left-wing anti-Christian Pols - the Church is AWOL. The only time they ever speak up, is to protect illegal aliens and globalization.
Showing solidarity with the people, Gov. Tub of Lard put his wife on their private jet and flew her to "evil" Republican state Florida to wait things out at their $12 million dollar estate.
Ingakins, what do you think about that?
Howard,
States rights - red states to prohibit abortion and gay marriage
I have no issue with the federal government intervening in a state matter to protect the rights of citizens. That’s the most primary function of the federal government - ensure equal protection of rights and ensure our rights are not taken away without due process of law.
The Federal Constitution guarantees to the states "a republican form of government" {small r, obviously.) Can a state where the Governor does not follow its own laws be said to have a republican form of government?
TJM: yes precisely. You can map the hypocrisy depending on whose ox is currently being gored
I read the post, was confused, read the DOJ press release, reread the post, was less confused, read the complaint in state court, was even less confused. I am now at my ordinary level of confusedness.
There are 14th Amendment issues dripping all around this case. But the plaintiff is the master of his complaint, and he chose to raise only state law issues. A complaint raising 14th Amendment issues would look very different from this one. But if such a case were brought, the narrow issue in this case (of the governor's emergency powers beyond 30 days) would be part of the governor's defense against the federal claim.
It seems completely appropriate to me that the DOJ would take a position in this matter. Some of the governors should be more careful than they have been to not violate 14th Amendment rights, and the federal government can help make that happen.
and mayor bane, and governor snoutface, let every means of egress out of new York open, to infect the rest of the country, something out of the dark winder wargame,
Althouse seems to be baffled by what is really happening, looking at it from a purely legal lens.
This is a pretty good PR move. The Federal government is telling the people of Illinois that their Democrat Governor is violating their own state laws and not allowing input into what is a very rough and traumatic time in their lives. Pritzker is denying them say in their own lives.
Does the Catholic Church in the USA ever do or say anything to stop the Left from trampling on Religious liberty?
"A May 13 executive order began Minnesota’s second stage of statewide response to the coronavirus pandemic. The order, issued by Governor Walz, reopens retail businesses and will gradually reopen restaurants and bars, but limits religious services to 10 people or fewer, with no timeline for loosening religious restrictions.
"On May 20, the bishops of Minnesota said they would allow parishes to resume public Masses at one-third of church capacity on May 26, in defiance of the statewide order.
"The bishops said the governor’s order was overly broad, to the point of defying reason, since significantly greater numbers of people were permitted to enter stores and shopping malls. They said they believed Masses could be resumed in a way that adhered to health and safety standards."
https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/after-minnesota-bishops-plan-to-defy-mass-restrictions-governor-eases-rules
https://archspmmainsite.s3.amazonaws.com/News/COVID19/20.0520+MN+Bishops'+Letter.pdf
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/religious-liberty-at-home.cfm
"On May 20, the bishops of Minnesota said they would allow parishes to resume public Masses at one-third of church capacity on May 26, in defiance of the statewide order.
"The bishops said the governor’s order was overly broad, to the point of defying reason, since significantly greater numbers of people were permitted to enter stores and shopping malls. They said they believed Masses could be resumed in a way that adhered to health and safety standards."
https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/after-minnesota-bishops-plan-to-defy-mass-restrictions-governor-eases-rules
On a related note, if anyone here personally knows Donald Sensing, someone should reach out to him. On an Insty thread he commented on the Methodist (UMC?) lockdown stance (which he is heeding) in TN; he seems a broken man, entirely unlike himself.
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