May 12, 2020

At the Sunrise Café...

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... you can talk 'til dawn.

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199 comments:

Jersey Fled said...

I'm planning to sleep until dawn. Or maybe a little later.

narciso said...


News from 2001


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/11609948/fbi-reveals-identity-mystery-saudi-official-9-11-attacks/amp/

Andrew said...

Congratulations to Joe Biden for winning the Nebraska primary tonight. He's sealing the deal. I hope he can comprehend the good news.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

now what's with Sullivan?
trying to extend the prosecution/persecution of Flynn?

...Maybe some
"Amicus Boxers" should KO this clown with the amicus briefs

...aaaaand

Judge Sullivan screwed up the factual basis of the guilty plea entered by Gen. Flynn,

Judge Emmet Sullivan Likely Committed Reversible Error In Taking The Guilty Plea of General Michael Flynn

narciso said...

What theyve been up to


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/08/barcelona-police-arrest-suspected-islamic-state-terrorist-planning/amp/

Bay Area Guy said...

"Congratulations to Joe Biden for winning the Nebraska primary tonight. He's sealing the deal. I hope he can comprehend the good news."

Slow Joe has successfully bumbled, jumbled, mumbled and stumbled thru the Cornhusker State.

Well done, Joe!

Birkel said...

Deaths are in big, rich cities.

https://www.city-journal.org/coronavirus-re-opening-process

But that's offset by the economic pain being mostly in the small, poor areas that have little disease.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

About damn time you opened a thread, boss. Nothin’ since 10:30 this morning!

Just kiddin’. Hope you two had a nice day.

Finally cleared out a corner of the property which had been an old dog run. Planning to put in a couple of vegetable beds; the first customers will be tomatoes and peppers via transplant in July. First I need to noodle on how to keep the possums and raccoons out. They already think Casa Pants is the neighborhood buffet thanks to all the fallen citrus. They love the oranges but will happily eat the limes and Meyer lemons too.

narciso said...

I went to the barber today, they opened up yesterday its a very no nonsense place that would make karens head explode.

StephenFearby said...

Red State
Posted at 10:00 pm on May 12, 2020

Sidney Powell Lights Up Judge Sullivan’s Political Nonsense In Flynn Case

Flynn Update - @SidneyPowell1 responds to the idea of allowing let outside briefing on the DOJ motion to dismiss.

"The proposed amicus brief has no place in this Court."

"No further delay should be tolerated or any further expense caused to him and his defense."

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/05/12/sydney-powell-lights-up-judge-sullivans-political-nonsense-in-flynn-case/

Achilles said...

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...
now what's with Sullivan?
trying to extend the prosecution/persecution of Flynn?

...Maybe some
"Amicus Boxers" should KO this clown with the amicus briefs


How do you file an amicus brief?

I would like to file this:

Whereas General Flynn was clearly colluded against by his own council and a corrupt prosecution, and whose court proceedings are held under an increasingly questionable judge;

Whereas there was an obvious coup attempt and a clear conspiracy to commit sedition and treason and frame decent people;

It is time for traitors to hang.

All of them.

Lewis Wetzel said...

I am retiring (early) to Polk County, Wisconsin, in 50 days.
After three decades in Hawaii I am looking forward to retiring in the area I spent the first 30 years of my life. It has been a lot of work, what with prepping the house to sell, and of course we have a pandemic going on, but I feel really good about it. The best thing is that I can afford to leave Wisconsin for four or six weeks in the winter.

Anne-I-Am said...

Pants,

Those darn 'coons. My dad planted all sorts of dwarf fruit trees: peaches and pears. The year the peach tree finally was filled with slowly ripening fruit, he was dancing with anticipation of those first sweet, juicy bites of goodness. He awoke on the morning he thought the fruit would be ready to pick...

Every single peach had ONE bite taken out of it. A single snap of a raccoon's mandibles. I thought my dad was going to stroke out.

Anne-I-Am said...

Lewis Wetzel,

Congratulations! I hope that the preparation for the move goes smoothly.

Original Mike said...

"First I need to noodle on how to keep the possums and raccoons out."

Lasers!

(never pass up the opportunity to use Lasers!)

narciso said...

Congrats lewis wetzel, but trading hawaii for wisconsin??

Big Mike said...

I have to admit that I do not understand Judge Sullivan’s action. The Attorney General of the United States states that the prosecution was a total miscarriage of justice, where does this pissant of a jurist get off saying “not so fast”?

Lewis Wetzel said...

It is a long story, Narciso. I have family in Polk county. My wife passed away two and a half years ago. If I wanted to retire to Kona, I would have to work another five years, and I am done.

Rt41Rebel said...

Congrats Lewis. I retired to Naples FL a month ago so I could help my parents in their old age who live a few blocks away. Actually, a week before I could announce that I retire, I got fired due to covid, so now I am eligible for all kinds of deficit spending. If I hadn't bought a house and moved when I did, I would be stuck renting in Miami with no job and no chance at recourse for at least a few years. I feel like for the first time my life, I went out on a limb, cut it off, and the tree fell down behind me.

--Rt1Rebel

Original Mike said...

Welcome back, Lewis.

narciso said...

Ok that makes sense, i lived in south florida for 30 some years and now im up the coast in a more sensible region.

narciso said...

And miamis insane expensive overcrowded and slightly crazy, wolfes back to bllid was that city on steroids.

buster said...

Judge Sullivan entered a order indicating that he will invite amicus briefs. Just last week the Supreme Court unanimously reversed a decision of the Ninth Circuit because the court considered amicus briefs in favor of upholding a criminal conviction. The Supreme Court said this was "beyond the pale." Sineneng-Smith v. United States.

buster said...

In favor of reversing a conviction.

narciso said...




Dont call me stupid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/12/exclusive-treasury-blueprint-raise-taxes-freeze-wages-pay-300bn/

J. Farmer said...

It was announced this morning that Raytheon/UTC would receive a $145 million US Army contract to train Afghan Air Force pilots. This is in the context of a larger strategic posture towards Iraq and Afghanistan called "security force assistance." The notion is that the following a transfer of sovereignty back to the host nation, the US would train local police and military forces so that the new government can effectively enforce itself. We stand them up while we stand down.

According to the mission statement for the training program in Afghanistna, the US (and NATO allies) will assist Afghanistan "as it generates and sustains the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), develops leaders, and establishes enduring institutional capacity in order to enable accountable Afghan-led security."

Does anybody for one second think that his is a realistic goal? Military and police training are not about handing over a bunch of gear and teaching the members how to use it. And even if it was, how helpful is a western military model, with its equipment-heavy dependence, for Afghanistan's military needs.

And leaving aside the technocratic questions, the bigger point is that military training, at the basic level, is not a standard job-training endeavor. It is much more about teaching a disparate group of people how to see themselves and act as part of a unit. It's a socialization process above all, and it inculcates values like duty and respect for authority. There is no way a foreign military can achieve anything like that as guests in a host country.

Anne-I-Am said...

Maybe Judge Sullivan has something about which to be worried.

Anne-I-Am said...

J Farmer,

And perhaps you are assuming facts not in evidence; i.e., that the Afghans have any interest in adopting our cultural values.

I am more than done with those people. (Yes, those people.). I say we pull out and let them slaughter each other. They have been doing it for more than a thousand years. What hubris on our part to think that we are going to turn the scorpion into a cricket.

narciso said...

Yes they cant get their act together after 18 years plus theyd probably use thr jets to attack india, the taliban being effectuvely isis proxies that got out of hand

narciso said...

This has been fleshed out in homelands last season, which was less terrible than the last three except for their game of thrones denoument

FullMoon said...

Pro-Trump Ad Plays Reade’s Allegations Over Pictures Of Biden Touching Women

Mary Margaret Olohan on May 12, 2020

A pro-Trump super PAC attacked former Vice President Joe Biden over his accuser Tara Reade’s allegations in an ad released Monday.

Great America PAC’s ad, titled “Shattered,” focuses on Reade’s allegations that Biden, a Democratic candidate in the 2020 presidential election, kissed her, touched her, and penetrated her with his fingers without her consent in 1993 when she worked for him as a Senate staffer. Biden has repeatedly denied these allegations.

The ad uses Reade’s voice to tell her allegations of sexual assault “while eerily overlapped with several inappropriate Biden moments with other individuals,” according to the PAC’s press release.

narciso said...

It will be like 1841, on steroids, but there isnt anything more we can do for them.

buster said...

Jusge Sullivan might be thinking he has to have someone make the prosecution's case because the government won't do it. That has sometimes (rarely) been done in civil cases but never, I think, in a criminal case.

narciso said...

The case was an utter fraud, even more than the stevens case he presided over a dozen years ago.

narciso said...

The head of fbi counterintelligence admitted they were going to frame him.

Anne-I-Am said...

narciso,

It was a GOT denouement, wasn't it? My thought was that no way could Carrie get away with being a mole--they would be on her like flies on shit. But it made for a nice reconciliation between her and Saul.

Now I enjoy Damien Lewis in "Billions."

Michael K said...

Obviously, a lot of people put misguided faith in Judge Sullivan after the Ted Stevens case. He seems to have reverted to the role of a Bill Clinton judge. Put not your faith in judges, especially if appointed by Democrats.

I wonder what it is worth to him?

narciso said...

They ripped off red sparrow, the book the movie was terrible, its written by thr former head of the russia division

Anne-I-Am said...

I read Red Sparrow and enjoyed it. Didn't even know there was a movie.

narciso said...

The thing about axelrod is no mattee hoe loathesome he is his rivals are somehow worse or as bad. Of course the show runner totally misread the subprime collapse in a blackstone weighted volume.

narciso said...

Be thankful there were touches in it, like the authors cousine selection, the thoughts of the protagonist her sixth sende that couldnt translate.

Anne-I-Am said...

So, all you super-smart guys on this cafe...I know that some of you will have informed opinions about this.

I have been doing some reading about Bayesian vs Frequentist statistical models, primarily because of their different uses in clinical trials. What is intriguing is the ability, in the Bayesian world, to "tweak" as you go along, rather than losing significance because you peeked at the data.

It seems to me that the few real trials that have been done with the Chinese Flu have been bog-standard. No updating as we go along in response to information gathered. So...HCQ/AZ/Z+ gets given one way and we never adapt our target population/dose/timing. Remdesivir was tried one way, and we look at the results and call them "modest."

What would a Bayesian approach to the Zombie flu be?

Anne-I-Am said...

Yes, Axe may be a bad guy, but I can't help but like him. Every time I want to like Rhodes, he blows it. And I loathe Taylor. Of course, that was a preloaded disgust, because I despise the pronoun/asexual bullshit. And her attempt to play the wounded bird, when she is about as warm as a frozen great white shark.

Sebastian said...

"Congratulations to Joe Biden for winning the Nebraska primary tonight."

All because he is so articulate.

narciso said...

Thats an interesting question, because you have to plug in a value, when i saw segments of fergusons code i said ??? Much of the data is just as bad from the trials if the cocktail works asap dont do it the other way. As i understand it the remdesvir study was conducted in such a way it could never be completed.

narciso said...

Exactly we know who axelrod is, after the first season, but rhodes is unconfortably close to some real life character, corey stoll is supposed to be the white knight but its never that cut and dry.

narciso said...

Gilead knows how to proper trials and yet they arent doing it, the chinese snatched the patent and they are paying for studiess that talk down the competition which is hcq.

narciso said...

how is this other than evil

Anne-I-Am said...

Probably the rem trial was curtailed because the drug showed significant clinical benefit (even if it is "modest"), and so continuing to dose a placebo would have been unethical.

MD Anderson Cancer Center does some trials in a Bayesian set-up. I have been watching them do it with one of my company's drugs, without realizing why they were doing the trial the way they were. As I was reading about the different methods last night, I had an "aha" moment. It is an elegant way to do a trial where the benefit of a therapy is clear, but the dosing strategy is not. Instead of trying a certain dose and sticking with it, and maybe ending up with a less-than-ideal indication from the stupid FDA, adapt as the trial progresses to try to maximize both efficacy and safety.

The question of course will be IF the FDA will go along with it. I would say it really only matters for the pharma companies, because we are gagged and can't legally speak to off-label use (even when that is what everyone wants to know). The physicians are free (for now) to adaopt dosing and companion therapies. IF insurance will pay for it. The crafty insurance companies often refuse to pay for a drug (especially the expensive ones) if the doc changes the dose/approved patient population.

When the insurance won't pay (or Medicare refuses), either the patient goes without or pharma ponies up. That is not a sustainable model.

Kathryn51 said...

Michael K said...
Obviously, a lot of people put misguided faith in Judge Sullivan after the Ted Stevens case. He seems to have reverted to the role of a Bill Clinton judge. Put not your faith in judges, especially if appointed by Democrats.

I wonder what it is worth to him?


It is worth a great deal to stay on the "plus" side of the protect President Obama at all costs.

According to one of my favorite pundit lawyers, Sol Weisenberg, he says that the Judge really has no choice in the matter - he must accept the DOJ motion. This is his way of saving face with the Democrat/lawfare crowd. Must preserve access to the DC cocktail circuit. Disappointing but pragmatic from his standpoint.

narciso said...

I hadnt thought of it like that, but if the dose is too large,

narciso said...

So you need to do subgroup, at different disages but that isnt feasable is it.

bagoh20 said...
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Anne-I-Am said...

nar,

The optics are bad. But really, the drugs should have different target populations. HCQ/AZ should be dosed at the first sign of the virus being more than a cold--say a fever and persistent cough. Rem should be used as soon as the pt needs supplemental O2. It is IV, so it has to be infused in either an inpatient or outpatient setting. (I haven't done enough reading about it to have an opinion about the feasibility of outpatient dosing, but hell, we dose chemo OP...)

bagoh20 said...

It's pretty disappointing when a judge is confronted with clear evidence that a prosecution
is far more illegal than the charge against the defendant, and still doesn't know what to do about the case. I often wonder if people in power have any appreciation for the pure luck in being born in this country, and what that means about the power granted to them by the people. It's an incredible and historic opportunity every single time. How can you blow that?

narciso said...

Right its much more practical to do the first, but fish cleaner, gah, to deprive people of hope like this, well evil isnt too extreme.

narciso said...

Its the story of thr doctor and the earwig, you know it.

Anne-I-Am said...

Well, the ability to do sub-groups depends on a couple of factors. First, is the potential trial population large enough to subdivide it and still have a large enough n to determine significance?

Second, do we have enough prior knowledge to make the kind of assumptions that can lead to a flexible trial strategy?

With rem, maybe we didn't have enough prior knowledge...and in fact, the fact that it was ineffective in other viruses was a negative. I would like to see them draw the conclusion that the effect may have been modest because they waited until the patients were very, very ill to use it. What we know from other disease states is that the farther along the curve the patient is, the lower the efficacy of the drug (in most instances). In CA trials, a drug is approved first for salvage, then slowly gains acceptance earlier and earlier, if the data seem to back up earlier administration.

With HCQ, I think we knew from the start that earlier was better. It is frustrating and perhaps malpractice to only try the combination in the moribund patient. We know the drugs are safe--everyone and their goat has had a Z-Pack. HCQ has decades of use. There was nothing to be lost from dosing it earlier in the process--except, perhaps, face.

One of the things that has galled me is watching the flip-flop on what constitutes acceptable evidence. Certainly, for drugs whose side effect profile is unknown, we need rigorous trials. But equally, if we are going to force economic destruction on 300 million people, we should have more to bolster our insistence on precautionary measures than "well, this seems logical."

Owen said...

Anne-I-Am @ 10:41: "...One of the things that has galled me is watching the flip-flop on what constitutes acceptable evidence. Certainly, for drugs whose side effect profile is unknown, we need rigorous trials. But equally, if we are going to force economic destruction on 300 million people, we should have more to bolster our insistence on precautionary measures than "well, this seems logical.""

THIS. And BTW your comments are consistently impressive. Thanks.

narciso said...

Exactly its like if hippocrates is do no harm, they seem to be doing the opposite, i dont know what would be the medusan strategy.

Anne-I-Am said...

Bagoh20,

I think what you want to see (as do I) is integrity and adherence to principal even when it is inconvenient or even perilous. I doubt that we have very many "public servants" who have even a passing acquaintance with that sort of virtue.

I suspect most of them perceive that they have righteously been chosen to be in the position to control others, and their behavior is driven by at best apathy about the effects of their actions, and at worst, venality, contempt and will-to-power.

I usually caution never to attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, but I am beginning to think that this whole enterprise is putrid.

steve uhr said...

Not surprising that the judge wants the benefit of hearing from adversarial parties on an important case. Doj and Flynn are on the same side.

Owen said...

buster @ 10:03: "Jusge Sullivan might be thinking he has to have someone make the prosecution's case because the government won't do it. That has sometimes (rarely) been done in civil cases but never, I think, in a criminal case."

What cognizable interest would such a stand-in have? Would Sullivan hold an essay contest and let the most slick and passionate writer take on the role of chief inquisitor of a fellow citizen? What kind of Republic would that be, where neighbors with a grudge or strangers with some free time can saunter into the courtroom and commandeer the People's case against you?

Drago said...

Farmer: "It's a socialization process above all, and it inculcates values like duty and respect for authority."

Duty yes.

Respect for authority?

Hmmmmm, I guess you've never been around aviators or Navy SEALs.

Owen said...

Anne-I-Am @ 10:14: "What would a Bayesian approach to the Zombie flu be?"

Great question. Will ponder.

Anne-I-Am said...

nar,

On the dosing strategies. In human trials, a Phase Ib/II trial is done to determine maximum tolerated dose. Tolerability is defined both as nuisance and consequential AEs. The presumption is that more is better. In a Phase II trial, a few patients are dosed and efficacy and tolerability are assessed. The MTD is determined, and efficacy is analyzed to see if there is enough of a signal to proceed to what will be a multi-hundred-million dollar Phase III.

What happens in the real world is that patients who would not have qualified for the trials get a therapy--and the true maximum tolerated dose emerges. Also, physicians use their knowledge of mechanisms of action and synergistic effects to combine therapies. Eventually, if we are lucky, a protocol is developed. Unfortunately, sometimes really effective drugs get shit-canned because we don't stumble on the most effective way to use them--and pharma really does not have the money to do multiple Phase III trials for one drug, unless it is clearly going to be a block-buster.

walter said...

Los Angeles Times
@latimes
Breaking: Los Angeles County’s stay-at-home orders will “with all certainty” be extended for the next three months, Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged during a Board of Supervisors meeting on Tuesday
https://t.co/jswRcZ5FkS?amp=1

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

And perhaps you are assuming facts not in evidence; i.e., that the Afghans have any interest in adopting our cultural values.

I can assure you that have no such assumption about Afghans. I make the opposite point.

One of the dumbest things George W. Bush ever said, among a variety of contenders, was "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." That statement made no sense, and it showed how muddled the thinking had become in the context of the "global war on terror."

Al Qaeda was always a relatively small, decentralized organization that, on the back of bin Laden's reputation in the Islamic world, was able to raise funds and manpower to carry out attacks on enemy targets. Among these were attacks aimed at the US, including the hotel bombings in Aden, the first WTC bombing, the African embassies, the USS Cole, and ultimately 9/11.

By overthrowing the Taliban and then Saddam Hussein, we immediately increased the strategic problems we faced. And because 9/11 was the justifying cause, "Al Qaeda" immediately started getting mixed up with insurgent forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. They weren't fighting us because they were radical Islamic jihadists; they were fighting us because we were over there. Insurgency against an occupying force is a well attested phenomenon.

Not only were these operations not necessary to attack Al Qaeda, they compounded the problem. "Al Qaeda" became a franchise, and long-standing forces, mostly kept at bay by the security services of their local countries, began adopting the name. They are referred to as "affiliated groups" but their "affiliation" with the Al Qaeda is either extremely tenuous or non-existent. The Al Qaeda of 9/11 was mostly captured, killed, or simply fizzled away.

Obama tried to do regime change on the cheap in Libya and Syria, and those blew up in our faces, too. ISIS was the consequence of our attempt, our "partners" in the region, to bring down Assad. The primary interest in bringing down Assad was to deal a blow to Iran's strategic position in the region. That's why we ended up in the absurd position of being against Assad and ISIS. US and and Iranian forces were both operating in Syria against their common enemy of ISIS. You could call it the "coalition of the unwilling."

Anne-I-Am said...

Steve Uhr,

Ummm....WTF are you talking about? If the prosecution declines to prosecute, the judge can't decide that justice isn't being served. The judge isn't in charge of the decision to prosecute or not.

Tell me you would be chuffed if you were charged with a felony, the prosecutor admitted to malfeasance and withdrew the charges, and the judge said....Nah. We're going to go ahead with this. Anyone want to chime in on why this guy should hang?

GMAFB.

Original Mike said...

"Doj and Flynn are on the same side."

Well, DOJ is on the side of justice. Right?

walter said...

Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
·
6h
Best pivot from Forever Lockdown crowd has been “but we aren’t nearly culturally/politically similar enough to Sweden to copy their approach!”

To

“Why haven’t we copied South Korea’s approach? Americans will have no problem with ankle monitors and govt apps checking them”

Drago said...

steve uhr: "Not surprising that the judge wants the benefit of hearing from adversarial parties on an important case."

LOLOLOLOLOL

More Steve Uhr: "Doj and Flynn are on the same side."

LOLOLOLOLOL

Hey dummy, who recommended that the investigation on Flynn be dropped? And when? And under whose administration?

Where is the original 302?

Why did the Mueller hacks submit a 302 that was based on Peter Strzoks exit interview from the FBI? Why did Peter Strzok "edit" Pientka's 302 3 weeks after the ambush frame up interview? Why the hell was Lisa Page, a non FBI-er allowed to edit the 302 much later? (pssst, we already know why)

It's so fun seeing these moron lefties like Li'l Stevie Uhr running around like its still 2018 and we don't have access to so much of the declassified documents and information.

Truly a blast.

Sullivan is going to do what he wants to do (as lefty judges do) to help his dem pals along. But its not going to fly for very long as Sullivan is already in violation of several procedures himself.

The latest giveaway is Sullivans suck up to Amy Berman Jackson after the Stone trial/Jury fiasco.

Its clear Sullivan wanted to drag this out to the Nov election so Flynn could not claim vindication and Sullivan was quite happy to go along with the DOJ transparent corruption...but Sydney Powell didn't let them get away with it.

Go ahead Sullivan and convict Flynn anyway so that on appeal you can have your ass handed to you 9-0 at the supreme court level (I don't think even Ginsberg or Sotomayor will go along with these shenanigans).

steve uhr said...

When can we expect trump back on the links? Before or after 100,000 deaths?

Anne-I-Am said...

JF,

Yeah, yeah. You're right. Combined with our stubborn belief that everyone wants what we've got. And I still say, let them decapitate each other to their hearts' content. We don't need their fucking oil anymore.

narciso said...

That makes sense, you have throw thibgs ar the wall, and see what sticks.

wholelottasplainin' said...

buster said...
Judge Sullivan entered a order indicating that he will invite amicus briefs. Just last week the Supreme Court unanimously reversed a decision of the Ninth Circuit because the court considered amicus briefs in favor of upholding a criminal conviction. The Supreme Court said this was "beyond the pale." Sineneng-Smith v. United States.
***********************
Exactly. A 9-0 decision written by Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

I think the Supremes will whack Sullivan's pee-pee pretty hard over this.

Drago said...

steve uhr: "When can we expect trump back on the links? Before or after 100,000 deaths?"

Since obambi hit the links on the very day he declared a pandemic emergency during H1N1 (or N1H1 as Slow Joe says), why not tomorrow?

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

Hmmmmm, I guess you've never been around aviators or Navy SEALs.

Ha. I have a longstanding relationship with MacDill Air Force Base ;)

But recall that I was talking about "military training, at the basic level,..."

Anne-I-Am said...

Like Obama was measuring for his putt when the shit in Libya hit the fan?

Drago said...

Farmer: "Ha. I have a longstanding relationship with MacDill Air Force Base ;)"

The whole base?

Farmer: "But recall that I was talking about "military training, at the basic level,..."

Understood, and I'll modify my comment slightly: Hmmmmm, I guess you've never been around aviators/aircrew or Navy SEALs.

Yancey Ward said...

"The best thing is that I can afford to leave Wisconsin for four or six weeks in the winter."

Good, that way you can avoid about 25% of Winter.

narciso said...

Its a little simpler than that, in libya and egypt we hired the equivalent of taliban and al queda, to take out qaddafi and assad the feb 17th brigade (those were the ones that split) aas, headed by an ex gitmo detainee, there were more moderate forces but they were cut out of the game much as with afghanistan the first time hekmatyar he threw acid at women. Charlie wilsons best pal, khalis the godfather of the taliban haqquani the one they accurately described in season 4 of homeland

Drago said...

Anne-I-Am: "Like Obama was measuring for his putt when the shit in Libya hit the fan?"

Anne, Li'l Stevie is one of the dumber legal commentators around (did you know he once claimed to have been a prosecutor? LOL) and he realizes he isn't going to be able to pass off his lefty moron talking points on Flynn so its back to LLR-C**** mode for him and throwing everything and the kitchen sink into the mix.

narciso said...

Massouds rep may have been inflated in portrayals like follett but he wasnt deliverately against us, but most of the money didnt go to his faction

Kathryn51 said...

In CA #25 Congressional District (Throuple Katie Hill's district special election:

Garcia (GOP) 55.7%
Smith (Dem) 44.3%

Votes hidden in car trunks, etc - still to come but that lead is going to be difficult to overcome in a Clinton+6 District.

Anne-I-Am said...

Drago,

Dayum. And here we thought we would escape the asinine for TWO nights in a row.

narciso said...

Chris stevens, may have been the frog that brought the scorpions to libya and fee them, guess what happens next.

Anne-I-Am said...

Kathryn,

Well you know...the counting isn't over until the Dem has won. Ballots in car trunks, in closets, behind the stairs in apartment buildings. By Any Means Necessary.

narciso said...

Los angeles seems to be in a competition to do the most self destructive thing with nyc.

Drago said...

Anne-I-Am: "Drago, Dayum. And here we thought we would escape the asinine for TWO nights in a row."

Not to worry.

Li'l Stevie usually pops in, embarrasses himself in quick fashion and then beats a hasty retreat when his one or two talking point "deep" ignorance gets blown out the water.

On the other hand, Li'l Stevie is a perfect fit for a yahoo or DailyKos chat thread.

narciso said...

I worked elections as ive mentiomed before and the dem poll watchers will push for provisional ballots at any opportunity, where there is a discrepancy of polling station, the other part is subrosa.

Yancey Ward said...

Taking amicus briefs in a criminal trial is incredibly unethical. It is exactly the same thing as allowing prejudicial testimony, and by doing so, Sullivan has already committed reversible error. It isn't surprising, though- the DoJ and Mueller team has committed one unethical act after another to get Flynn, so the judiciary joining in on the act isn't a surprise at this point. That Steve Uhr supports such disgusting tactics is just icing on the cake- you have no shame or ethics at all, do you Steve?

Drago said...

Yancey Ward: "Taking amicus briefs in a criminal trial is incredibly unethical. It is exactly the same thing as allowing prejudicial testimony, and by doing so,...."

Sometimes the democrat/lefty/deep staters bypass the whole Put Democrat Operatives On Juries As Forewoman path and cut straight to the conviction.

Sullivan simply wants to extend the democrat talking points for another couple of weeks now that the jig is up.

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

The whole base?

Cheekier than usual tonight.

My grandfather was stationed there back in the 50's, and several other family members were either stationed or employed there. I've also done contract work there. The base is pretty well incorporated in the social scene around Tampa. Jill Kelley was a well known, social climbing bimbo in the area.

Drago said...

Farmer: "Cheekier than usual tonight."

Indeed I am. Finished off a pain in the rear credentialing effort (always "credential up" during downtimes) that kept me up for a couple nights in a row (need the quiet time).

narciso said...

So knowing what you about the haqquanis how stupid was it to give them guns and noney so they would become the pashtun crowders thats what was done in libya and syria.

Drago said...

Farmer: "Jill Kelley was a well known, social climbing bimbo in the area."

You say that like its a bad thing.

narciso said...

Of course that whole thing was a frame to fet rid of petreaus and put brennan in, yes he behaved stupidly, but the ovjective was to put mr al quds in charge.

William said...

I watched a fair part of the Senate hearings on C-Span. Some of the Senators (and you can guess who) were polemical but most asked useful questions and received informative answers....I watched the exchange between Rand Paul and Fauci. I don't think it was as acrimonious as the snippet played on the news shows. Paul made some good points about how the recovered coronavirus patients could now safely go back to work at the meat packing plants. He noted that children were not at any kind of mortality risk by going to school. These are points worth considering. Fauci took a limited contra position, but neither man went at each other's integrity or reasoning.....It's worth noting that Paul is a recovered coronavirus patient and a physician who does volunteer work with virus patients at a hospital....When he claims that recovered virus patients have little risk from the disease, he is putting not his money but his life where his mouth is. I wish the news people would mention that fact in their statements about him.

narciso said...

Well you know who they have to put the halo and who gets the black hat?

grackle said...

The way I write a poem: I hear something which brings on a line. And that thing leads to another line and so on. Here lately I seem to favor tetrameter. Even my free verse usually has a tetrametric structure. I try to avoid the abstract and stick to concrete imagery. I keep descriptors to a minimum.

Corona Blues 6

I dream of our new pal, Cov.
He’s a very persistent friend,
I think; despite a yen to rove
He stays with us until the end.

Would that he not be so loyal
As to overstay his welcome.
I fear we must be stoical
And grant his lack of momentum.

Someday he’ll fade away they say
And sneak off to some place unknown.
Is his absence we’ll kneel and pray
That he means to leave us alone.

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

Indeed I am. Finished off a pain in the rear credentialing effort (always "credential up" during downtimes) that kept me up for a couple nights in a row (need the quiet time).

I feel your pain. Credentialing is a perennial pain in the ass for us. Kudos for using your downtime productively. I've basically reverted to summer vacation mode: sleeping til noon, not wearing pants, having dessert for breakfast, breakfast for lunch, and gin and tonic for dinner.

You say that like its a bad thing.

Depends on who she's climbing over and who she's climbing on.

Danno said...

Blogger Lewis Wetzel said...I am retiring (early) to Polk County, Wisconsin, in 50 days.
After three decades in Hawaii I am looking forward to retiring in the area I spent the first 30 years of my life. It has been a lot of work, what with prepping the house to sell, and of course we have a pandemic going on, but I feel really good about it. The best thing is that I can afford to leave Wisconsin for four or six weeks in the winter.

Our commenter AllenS is from up that way, but I see he hasn't visited tonight. AllenS is from southern Polk or northern St. Croix county as near as I can tell. I'm familiar with that area as I grew up in Stillwater & Washington County, MN just west and slightly south of there.

walter said...

William said...Paul is a recovered coronavirus patient and a physician who does volunteer work with virus patients at a hospital....When he claims that recovered virus patients have little risk from the disease, he is putting not his money but his life where his mouth is. I wish the news people would mention that fact in their statements about him.
--
Good point. Press would rather make The Fauch a victim of a "pounce!".

walter said...

Covid19Crusher
@Covid19Crusher
·
7h
Hospital ICU in Piauí, Brasil, is empty after hydroxychloroquine treatment.
"brutal change in death rate"

em português: https://bit.ly/2WoXRlO
in English: https://bit.ly/2WoEz04

narciso said...

I was about to link that one, the kelley i forget her naiden name was just another squirrel like hastings interview to get rid of mccrystal which put afghan policy in bidens hands meaning peter galbraith. Who was bhuttos harvard roomate.

Yancey Ward said...

I always wanted a social climbing bimbo, but I was always a step down the ladder, not up.

stephen cooper said...

the guy who called the American heroes at Benghazi to tell them they were on their own, with no hope of any help from the Obama regime, passed away this week.

All these details will fade to history. But it is good to reflect on what happened.

Back in the day when I used to talk to homeless people because almost nobody else would, I would patiently listen to their talk of chemtrails, and how everything was rigged, and I would look them in the eyes - usually rheumy eyes, and it was sad how the male homeless dudes were always 2 or 3 shaves away from being the presentable young men their mothers (still in their fifties at the time, and many of the ones who were not obese were still quite presentable from the point of view of the sort of person who thinks about women that way - I talked about that, too, not that anybody listened ) --- well, I would look them in the eyes, and say, well if there are people who are energetic and intelligent and motivated enough to do all this chemtrail stuff and to rig the pharmaceutical markets in their favor, isn't there a chance that there are other people who are using those people like puppets, and that all will be well some day, and should we not try to hope for such a day?????

When I interviewed to work at the public defender office, I did not get a call back, when I offered to work for free for a year helping the poor, I did not even get a response.

Really, when you think about it, almost nobody wants to help the losers in the world.

And they are all gone now, the homeless guys I talked to in the 80s, with maybe one in a hundred still alive eking out a living in public housing somewhere, and almost all their mothers are now in graveyards, too, even though, back in the day, they were still sort of young (in a 55 year old sort of way) and attractive.... I remember now, I remember now that they are now either long gone or in their late 80s or so, living the life that people that age live (a fairly good life if they have people who care about them, and if they don't, well God help them)

and even, all these years later, if I volunteered at an old folk's home: even I , who knows how to talk to the oldest of the old, would probably not be the highlight of their day, were I to visit, perhaps with my two wonderful cats (General Pleasanton and Young Beauregard) or perhaps, without my cats, with my euphonium horn which I play, when asked, to the accompaniment of my piano stylings.

It is sad,in a way, to know how so so much people love their families, and how people are so proud to think of how important their family is, on the one hand, and on the other hand how nobody cares about the losers in life.
I mean, I care, but there is only so much I can do. And I am sure you are the right sort of person, and you care too, but there is only so much you can do, too.


Anne-I-Am said...

Walter,

I wonder how much Fauci is suffering from the ego trip that comes from being The Man. I listen to him, and I think he has an inability to comprehend that he may just be wrong.

narciso said...

One is reminded obama actually pardoned a general, cartwright, who leaked details of stuixtnet to the papers to paint obama as big cyber warrior, he also lied to the bureau about it.

Anne-I-Am said...

Yancey,

I sometimes wanted to BE a social climbing bimbo, but alas, I couldn't get the bimbo part right.

walter said...

I still fear for Rand Paul's life.
Lawncare season has begun.

J. Farmer said...

@Yancey Ward:

I always wanted a social climbing bimbo, but I was always a step down the ladder, not up.

"Hookers aren’t cool, but remember, the free ones are a lot more expensive."
-Goldman Sachs Elevator

stephen cooper said...

sorry if that sounded a little despondent, so let me add this> the happiest people are people who nobody cares about,
God has a special place in God's divine heart for the losers in life.

Y'all have no idea how easy it was to make homeless people laugh back in the 80s, back before opioids were cheap and the stylish thing

narciso said...

Thats not an entirely tongue a d cheek thing walter.

walter said...

Anne,
Perhaps data/modeling can predict sales for the July release:
Dr. Fauci Bobblehead (Presale)
"Dr. Anthony Fauci has become America’s voice of reason as one of the lead members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. This is the first bobblehead of Dr. Fauci, who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984.
Expected to ship in July 2020
Bobbleheads are high quality and produced by the National Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum
7 inches tall
The National Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum will be donating $5 from every Dr. Fauci Bobblehead sold to the American Hospital Association's Protect the Heroes Campaign to support the 100 Million Mask Challenge."

narciso said...

As it turned out, the very selective leak strategy is responsible for that narrative against her, who leakes the investigation that was pentagon counsel jeh johnson whi ended head of dhs.

William said...

I don't have any problems with Fauci. He seems like a decent man who is offering his best judgment on these issues. The hero worship in the media is excessive, but Fauci himself is not vainglorious.....I think most of these people, including people I disagree with, are honorable and sincere in their actions. Many have been caught wrong footed and ambiguous data is sometimes analyzed mistakenly, but I don't think anyone is actively malignant or malicious--except, of course, the press and that scumbag DeBlasio....The only player in this drama that has been purposely mendacious is the Communist Chinese Party. When you look for conspiracy theories, why not look to the player who was caught conspiring against you.

Bay Area Guy said...

@Drago,

"Stevie usually pops in, embarrasses himself in quick fashion and then beats a hasty retreat when his one or two talking point "deep" ignorance"

Well, you know what they say, Drago - to Uhr is human, to forgive divine:)

walter said...

(And no..the bobblehead museum is in Milwaukee, but I don't know if these are Made in Wuhan)

Drago said...

Farmer: "I feel your pain. Credentialing is a perennial pain in the ass for us. Kudos for using your downtime productively. I've basically reverted to summer vacation mode: sleeping til noon, not wearing pants, having dessert for breakfast, breakfast for lunch, and gin and tonic for dinner."

Well, I've got....constraints...that preclude the no pants option.

Anne-I-Am said...

No pants? Really, you guys? What does that look like? Wandering around starkers from the waist down, or boxers? Don't you feel kind of....vulnerable?

I have been going bra-less, but that is nothing new for me. I avoid those sumbitches whenever I can.

Drago said...

William: "I don't have any problems with Fauci. He seems like a decent man who is offering his best judgment on these issues."

If this is true, and to an extent I think it probably is, you have to explain away the clear footsie Fauci has been playing with the media undermining the messaging that comes out during the press conferences.

The tell is that Birx is reacting quite differently. I think she is quite upset at having been played and made to look like a dope for pushing, uncritically, the horrific UK report estimate of 2.2 million US citizens dead followed up the Washington study which was also wildly off.

I think Birx is bothered by the economic depression that has been unleashed to the rash decision pushed by herself and Fauci.

Further, Birx has clearly bristled on multiple occasions when the medias clear bias and moronic questions have gone too far. Fauci, on the other hand, has no reaction and gives the media the hi sign.

It must also be noted that Fauci is very tied in with Bill Gates and the globalist crew and Fauci is very, VERY good pals with the Ethiopian marxist ChiCom suckup WHO director Tedros (who is not a real doctor and in fact is the first non-medical doctor in that role).

Tedros has been lying non-stop for the ChiComs for years and it really played out transparently over the last 6 months and Fauci has defended that schmuck every step of the way.

narciso said...

When you take the long view about fauci like michael fumento has done since the 80s, the mistakes dont look so random, the players like the who the gates fiundation and the wuhan institute doesnt look so innocent either.

Drago said...

Anne-I-Am: "No pants? Really, you guys? What does that look like?"

"guys"? (plural)

That's Farmer. That isn't me. I've got to maintain some degree of decorum as a gentleman. I can not be held responsible for what some Florida-based barbarian is up to.

Speaking of barbarians, is anyone else really missing rugby?

walter said...

Well William, the degree he went out of his way to diminish HCQ vs embracing Rem, I got a problem with him.
A ways back, heard an interview of Fauci on KFI AM (California) 4/7/20 John & Ken show and was surprised when he said he is known for being skeptical of models. oh really?
Mentioned common sense would suggest the various density and lifestyle differences Between Cali and NY impact the numbers, then went on to
give the credit of lower than expected rates in CA to mitigation effort alone.
Heads I win. Tails you lose. As he says, it's just a matter of enduring some "inconvenience"..."potential secondary side effects"
He's still the highest profile foot dragger.
Is there anything more vainglorious to responding to whether Brad Pitt should play him in a movie?
I think him being an NYC age peer of Trump's ultimately pushed/scared Trump into the corner he's in.

narciso said...

Apparently he was at the white house yesterday so he really wasnt quarantined

JML said...

Annie-I-Am, I had a dog that always ate our strawberries just before we would go to pick them - she had a nose for when they were perfectly ripe. Later, we had a dog who would eat all of my wife's tomatoes (cherry and beefsteak) she grew in a container garden on our deck. All those years we had the dogs, we got a handful of strawberries and just a few tomatoes. (Sure do miss those dogs!)

Anne-I-Am said...

Those rapscallions! Tomatoes and strawberries!!!

I have a very sharp memory of picking tomatoes out of a friend's garden in the heat of the summer and taking a bite...the fuzzy feeling of the skin, the pungent odor of the stalks and leaves...the explosion of juice in my mouth and down my chin....I guess if the dog appreciated all that, then he can be forgiven.

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

No pants? Really, you guys? What does that look like? Wandering around starkers from the waist down, or boxers? Don't you feel kind of....vulnerable?

T-shit and boxer briefs all day, every day. One day I never got out of my bathrobe after having a shower. Smoked a doobie and spent the day eating cereal and watching Luny Tunes.

Alas, work will resume soon, and my better half will return. My vacation from adulthood is coming to an end.

Anne-I-Am said...

Soccer: A gentlemen's game played by hooligans. Rugby: A hooligans' game played by gentlemen.

Rugby doesn't make sense to me. It seems like brownian motion interspersed with particulate expulsion at random intervals.

stephen cooper said...

narciso at 12:22 am --

bill gates was no random nerd, he was the nerd child of parents who SERVED on the Planned Parenthood Board of Injustice.
that was no coincidence, despite all those "computer in the garage in the 70s! when nobody was into computers except super-nerds!" memes the bad historians like to talk about.
and fauci is more like bill gates than he is like you or me.


i have known a lot of people who find it very easy to run around and tell everybody how smart they are.
sadly, gates and fauci have been co-opted.

everybody who knows anything much about them knows that, and historians of the future will know that, but for now, not many people know that,

stephen cooper said...

trust me narciso when you think of how easily it will be to see what was going on in the 20s, from the view of the 50s, you will feel a little more confident of our future where those people who DO NOT LIKE POOR PEOPLE will have much much less power because we will be on to their tricks

Anne-I-Am said...

JF, Hmmpf. Sounds like what I imagine my cat gets up to when I am gone. Cracks a beer, orders a pizza, and puts on bird videos.

I am depressed enough by enforced inactivity. Contra Howie and the harpy, I have healthy self-esteem (tho I would deem it self-respect), and yet, I don't feel good at all when I don't get dressed and impose some order on the day.

I shudder to think of what your kitchen must look like. :-p

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

That's Farmer. That isn't me. I've got to maintain some degree of decorum as a gentleman. I can not be held responsible for what some Florida-based barbarian is up to.

Ha. Compared to the average Floridian, I'm a Boston Brahmin. I haven't worn or owned shorts since I was 18. When I was 25, we went to the Bahamas for my sister's 30th birthday. While I was unpacking, I realized, "Shit, I didn't pack a bathing suit...wait, I don't own a bathing suit." Had to buy one at the hotel gift shop on the way to the pool.

Anne-I-Am said...

Damn. I hope I just didn't invoke the demons.

narciso said...

Like the secret life of pets, how accurate was say galbraiths look at the 20s not very.

narciso said...

Just yell beetlejuice three times

Anne-I-Am said...

Doesn't AA have a thing about men in shorts?

But don't long pants get freaking hot? I suffer badly in the heat. I am trying to figure out how to strip my skin off when I want to run on a really scorching day. Just pull off the ole epidermis and run around with my bare capillaries radiating heat.

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

I shudder to think of what your kitchen must look like. :-p

It's immaculate. I've ordered out every day. In my mind, I'm 15, my parents are gone on a trip, and I have the house all to myself. I even rummaged through my own drawers.

Anne-I-Am said...

Today was a hard day. The first day I have felt on the razor edge of despair. One wave of problems after another. Without the background radiation of the lockdown, I would have been fine. Stressed, but maintaining equilibrium. This shit has got to end.

J. Farmer said...

Doesn't AA have a thing about men in shorts?

Yes; it's part of what endeared me to her. When I finished high school, I got this notion that shorts are infantilizing, and adults shouldn't wear them.

But don't long pants get freaking hot?

The trick is to avoid the outdoors. But I've been known to suffer outside in the occasional seersucker. Beauty is pain.

Anne-I-Am said...

I even rummaged through my own drawers.

That made me laugh out loud--and startled the cat.

Did you find anything surprising? Sometimes I hide things in my pockets before I put clothes away for a season. For the fun of being surprised when I pull them back out.

Anne-I-Am said...

Seersucker? Seer-iously?

Hmmmdihmmmdihmmmdihmm.

walter said...

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
·
1h
Two special Congressional elections: Republicans won in Wisconsin by 15% and are - shockingly - up 12% in California in what was supposed to be a toss-up.

But Democrats are the party of lockdowns, and voters love lockdowns, amirite?
Two Special Elections On Tuesday Could Hint At Another Blue Wave In 2020
Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump in most early polls, Democrats are leading polls of the generic congressional ballot by 2018-level margins…
fivethirtyeight.com

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
·
2h
And speaking of censorship, actual censorship: @Facebook
has just closed the original major anti-lockdown group, Michiganders Against Excessive Quarantine, which had 385,000 members.

William said...

I think it's fair to say that Fauci probably has a left bias, but I don't think that it overpowers his judgment in those areas where he is paid to pass judgment. He doesn't take swipes at the press but neither does he unfairly criticize the President. He would have been a success in the diplomatic corps.....Rand Paul in his exchange with Fauci pushed for opening the schools. I agree with Rand Paul, but Fauci's more cautious position on reopening them is defensible. A lot of this we will have to live through (or not) to see who's right.

walter said...

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
3h
Big News: Tom Tiffany of the Great State of Wisconsin has just become Congressman Tom Tiffany. He will do a FANTASTIC job for the people of Wisconsin, and the United States. Congratulations!

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

Did you find anything surprising?

Only a petrified Gummy Bear. I'm not sure what startled him.

Seersucker? Seer-iously?

It's a classic fabric for the southern gentleman. Unfortunately, I don't have the imposing frame required to go full seersucker. I opt for the preppy look and pair the blazer with a pair of chinos.

J. Farmer said...

Got called a "white nationalist" today. To which I always reply: you could just as easily call me a "black nationalist," which I am.

African-Americans are clearly members of a distinct nation, based in a history of shared experience, cultural traditions, and language. The mythology of Pan Africanism, Afrocentrism, the black Egypt hypothesis, and Kwanzaa are examples of nation-building. But even though membership is signaled by race, it's not determinant. People like Clarence Thomas or John McWhorter are black members of the white nation. That is, they see themselves as inheritors and beneficiaries of western civilization, and they identify primarily with its history and cultural traditions.

Having disparate nations occupy a shared political space is a dicey proposition. The UK is breaking down. In America, it is a major source of tension in the political system. My proposed solution is that people be allowed to voluntarily separate. Sadly, even if giving over a piece of territory for a black ethno-state was politically feasible, its biggest export would likely be refugees.

walter said...

I just have concern over Fauci's concept of the US outside of the East Coast, large cities.

walter said...

Farmer,
"Racist" might be your best bet.
You might want a better word for marketing purposes.

Mark said...

What a bizarre Alfred Hitchcock.

It's about a middle-aged man obsessed with hurdling. He watches old films of him in track meets running the hurdles and then he runs around the room jumping over furniture.

Drago said...

Farmer: " The UK is breaking down."

But thats only because the problem with Scotland is....its full of Scots.

Kidding aside, the EU project is breaking up faster than the UK, but atomization does seem like it will be the order of the day across Europe in the near term.

walter said...

Maybe Hitchcock's view of himself on set.

Drago said...

Farmer: "Ha. Compared to the average Floridian, I'm a Boston Brahmin."

Ha!

Like there's such a thing as an average Floridian. (I speak as someone who has spent considerable time in the panhandle, Orlando and with significant family in Mi-chami (always spoken with a Tony Montana accent)

Anne-I-Am said...

Mark,

Hahahahaha. I am getting a very funny video inside my head. I don't have room in my house to hurdle the furniture (nor the grace and agility), and my downstairs neighbor bitches enough as it is.

J. Farmer said...

walter:

"Racist" might be your best bet.

I'm not sure that word has any meaning anymore. If you take the more sociological approach and say that it describes a supporter of a system of racial oppression, that certainly doesn't describe me. If you say it's making negative judgments of a person on the basis of their race, that doesn't describe me either. I believe in the moral axiom that you treat people as individuals and judge on their merit, not on their group affiliation. But, I also recognize that you can talk about a people without saying about any individual person.

walter said...

"mmBBC" willing to question covid effort to undermine Boooooorriiiiissss!

Mark said...

Who would write such a story?

Who, after reading a story about a guy who like to jump over furniture at home and also ran around the room at parties hurdling over furniture, would say, hey, that's a good idea for a TV episode? And who would film it and act in it?

A hurdling obsession???

What??

Anne-I-Am said...

Farmer,

I fear you are right. The more fragmented society becomes, the more tribal it gets. Do you think people instinctively understand that--but feel ashamed of it? Or do the progressives among us really not get it? Or do they welcome the inevitable power struggles that develop, thinking they can control them?

I often feel more uncomfortable in certain parts of the Bay Area than others. Oakland feels most like home--the demographic mix is closer to the Midwest. I don't feel fearful, just not at home.

Mark said...

The season five theme music intro to Mannix is too fast.

Anne-I-Am said...

Mark,
Maybe your ears are stuck on 78.

Anne-I-Am said...

I think Fauci has been subject to regulatory capture, so to speak.

Mark said...

Maybe your ears are stuck on 78.

I don't know . . . it's an episode from 1971, not 78.

J. Farmer said...

@Drago:

Like there's such a thing as an average Floridian. (I speak as someone who has spent considerable time in the panhandle, Orlando and with significant family in Mi-chami (always spoken with a Tony Montana accent)

You've managed to avoid all source of authentic Florida. The panhandle is southern Georgia and Alabama. Orlando is a theme park parking lot. Miami is an Afro-Caribbean enclave.

The central west coast is the heart of the old Florida that barely exists anymore. It was created in the latter part of the 19th century and is a strange brew of Americans moving from the southern Appalachia and the Carolina low-country and recent Cuban and Italian immigrants.

walter said...

Anne,
Trump and The Fauch saw images of porta morgues/fridges at the hospital they grew up near. Trump referenced calls from old NYC friends who subsequently died.
Probably an unhelpful emotional input re the entire country.
The historians here can probably draw parallels to this.
But as to institutional bias against off label drug combos, that's a Fauch thing from what I see thus far.

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

Do you think people instinctively understand that--but feel ashamed of it? Or do the progressives among us really not get it? Or do they welcome the inevitable power struggles that develop, thinking they can control them?

I think it's probably some mix of shallow sociology, white guilt, and the fact that the minorities they are likeliest to have any contact with have been filtered by the meritocracy. The subscribe to a kind of hip postmodernism, though they could never explain it in those terms. Unfortunately, a perennial failing of the ruling class is their mistaken notion that the world that's best for them is best for everybody. In their mind, they are not selfish and self-interested. They are merely the rising tide lifting all boats.

walter said...

I find it a bit concerning how the US guv/media ignores treatment info outside the US.
Imagine if Trump happened to mention early HCQ combo success elsewhere to remove it from being a Trump thing.

Anne-I-Am said...

JF,

I see. The worldly cosmopolitans who feel at home everywhere because "home" is 5-star hotels, fine cuisine, first class travel or private jets, and gated communities--wherever they are in the world. They share those environs with people of all races--all equally sheltered from the realities of life among those they claim to have such concern for.

I think I went through this in my younger days. I came out of an elite college where everyone was pretty much the same--skin color was irrelevant--and went home to parents who had decades of experience with the non-elite. I was horrified by their attitudes. Now, older than they were at the time, I feel the tension I think you describe: I judge individuals as just that--individuals. And I see behavioral patterns and cultural predilections that lead me to conclude that we can't all get along.

Anne-I-Am said...

Off to bed all. Glad to see the humor tonight.

J. Farmer said...

@Anne:

The worldly cosmopolitans who feel at home everywhere...

I know of the people you speak. When I lived in southeast Asia, the upper class western tourists tended to be of two varieties. There were the ones who never set foot outside Bangkok's central business district and spent most of their time at luxe shopping palaces, and there were the ones who eschewed anything "touristy" and craved an "authentic" experience that often manifested in a weird kind of poverty tourism.

That said, while it is fun to shit on these people, there is a kind of upwardly-mobile egalitarianism myth that is a cherished belief of many Americans.

walter said...

So Farmer,
What was the determinate metric for re-opening practice?

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J. Farmer said...

@walter:

So Farmer,
What was the determinate metric for re-opening practice?


The original plan was to shut down through the end of April with a "wait and see" approach. We conferenced the last week of April and made the decision to extend the closure for two weeks and put in place a social distancing policy.

walter said...

"put in place a social distancing policy. "
Which is?

J. Farmer said...

Which is?

Staggered shifts at the office, telecommuting, interviews by phone when possible, masks, masks for clients, hand sanitizer, temperature, and pulse ox.

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Jon Ericson said...

A book

Bruce Hayden said...

Yancey Ward: "Taking amicus briefs in a criminal trial is incredibly unethical. It is exactly the same thing as allowing prejudicial testimony, and by doing so,...."

It’s going to be interesting to see how this goes. I don’t see how the judge can do that much. Federal prosecution is a purely executive branch function, which means that the judge really doesn’t have the power to replace the DOJ for prosecution of the case. Part of the problem is that he didn’t apparently establish materiality of the material that Flynn supposedly lied about, and that is one of the elements of the crime. That should be fatal to the case. Materiality is something that the defendant cannot really know, because he doesn’t know what investigations are going on, nor how their supposedly false statements affect those investigations. As non-parties, interventions shouldn’t be able to establish facts, but rather should be limited to discussions about how the law affects the facts already in evidence. And intervenors shouldn’t be able to gain access to much of the unredacted classified evidence submitted prior to this, because the Executive Branch owns the classification of the classified information submitted to date. Between parties, the judge can force the prosecution to disclose evidence that it has that the defendant could find useful in his defense, even if it classified. There is essentially a bargain - if the government wants to use information against a defendant, they need to make sure that and related evidence is available to the defendant, even if it is classified. The alternative then is not to prosecute, which is part of prosecutorial discretion, a power at the federal level assigned to the President and his delegatees. At this point, I think that either ignoring the materiality issue, or allowing intervenors to introduce evidence, would be reversible error.

And maybe that is what the judge is after, a platform for the Democrats to try to smear Flynn and the Trump Administration, and maybe force the appeals court to reverse him, pushing exoneration of Flynn beyond the election, where a Biden/Harris/Clinton, etc Administration can reverse course and try to prove materiality on remand. It should be interesting. The intervenors against Flynn shouldn’t be able to even argue in favor of guilt, because that would violate numerous Constitutional rights of both the defendant and the President. Which I think means that their argument should be limited to that Flynn admitted guilt, and everything else is irrelevant, including materiality. And indeed, that subject seems to have been studiously avoided up to this point by the Mueller prosecutors. I expect that s the plan, esp since it essentially came from Obama, himself.

Crazy World said...

Very cool Lewis 9:25 big Aloha

Bruce Hayden said...

The next six months before the election. Shutting down the economy and shutting in the populace is ending throughout much of the country is ending, one way or another. Red States are mostly opening back up voluntarily, while Blue State governments are trying to maintain their autocratic rule. It isn’t going to work. The country’s economy is in shambles as a result. Only history, maybe, will ever be able to tell if the sacrifice was worth it. I am less and less thinking that it was.

But what happens if Red America opens back up, while Blue America state governments do what they can to prevent it? Our economy is interconnected enough that Blue America will be helped by Red America reopening, and the opposite. But I suspect that Blue America will be hurt worse, and that means a lot of resistance to bailing out the feckless Blue State governments.

Today, I tried to go to the courthouse to get a more precise idea of what I bought at the end of May when I bought our subdivision. The issue is that as a legally platted and constituted subdivision, all property descriptions are relative to the subdivision documents approved by the county. I don’t even know if I own the common areas. If I do, I should be able to tweak boundaries a bit, and subject them to easements (I,e. Build roads and run utilities across them). And I think that I should be able to build a large steel garage on the NE corner of the property. But I need to see the original subdivision platting and approvals. Which means some time in the RE records at the courthouse. Except that access to the courthouse is extremely limited right now, with an armed deputy standing at the front door making sure that only those with appointments are getting in. There is no timetable yet for reopening the courthouse, nor of the library or the schools. No surprise - the MT governor is a (moderate) Democrat. Things were progressing much more smoothly in AZ, with a Republican governor.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Anne-I-Am said...
No pants? Really, you guys? What does that look like?

You'd have to see it to believe it...

IBIKUNLE LANIYAN said...

I pretty believe something has to be done to force trump administration out of power as a racist tool of the Republican tea party.We shall never their evil memoirs of the same cabal of capitalist despots that caused america to deviate from the Hamiltonian humanist core values upon which the Republic was built more than 200years ago.Everywhere in america most deaths from coronavirus are basically 70percent blacks and i disagree with those who refused to believe the so called conspiracy theory that america did plant the virus in Wuhan,China.Why would trump on washinghton post lamented the rising population of blacks in america and determined to reduce them or wipe out?It is time to flush him out and avert the vision of the Rockefeller plan to reduce the population of the world.Biden can do the world and return sanity to the white house.

Padmakshi Sharma said...

It's beautiful

rehajm said...

WSJ running stories of urban transportation workers fearful of 'exposure' and supportive of Karens carrying signs what scold outdoor runners not wearing masks. It feels like they've been asleep for two months...

stevew said...

"Scientists worry that planned May 18 easing of some Mass. coronavirus rules could be too soon"

That headline from the Boston Globe, triggered by the steady decline in D/D to 33 yesterday. First off, worrying isn't science so why do we care that Scientists are worried, as compared to everyone else? Second, many (most) Scientists have been wrong in their predictions about the virus from the beginning, which has less to do with them and their abilities and more to do with the fact that we have not and do not know enough about the virus. Third and last, what does have to happen with the data (D/D, Hospitalizations, Testing, Positives, Antibodies) to make Scientists, and everyone else, stop worrying about re-opening? As my rep said in an email: we must stay closed until we can test, track, trace, and have a vaccine. FFS, we're never going to open then I guess.

As for pants - I've been getting ready for work every day as usual (shower, shave) but am wearing casual clothing unless I've got a video call with a customer - long pants on the cooler days, shorts or a kilt on the warmer ones. Try a kilt, I think you'll love it.

rehajm said...

It's the Clinton is Inevitable Syndrome. If you tell people a million times if they're exposed their lungs will implode they will go nuts when it doesn't happen...

rehajm said...

Try a kilt, I think you'll love it.

Aye that...

BUMBLE BEE said...

Gotta kill the country to save it! Dems/left using the same old playbook.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Google Bill Priestap, the FBI counter intelligence chief, whose handwritten note was a smoking gun in the Flynn case. His in-laws are billionaires and his wife is loaded too. I wondered why he was still working a regular job?

Clyde said...

buster said...
Judge Sullivan entered a order indicating that he will invite amicus briefs. Just last week the Supreme Court unanimously reversed a decision of the Ninth Circuit because the court considered amicus briefs in favor of upholding a criminal conviction. The Supreme Court said this was "beyond the pale." Sineneng-Smith v. United States.


Sullivan is a black Democrat. He doesn't care about the pale.

Paco Wové said...

IBIKUNLE LANIYAN said...

Nice to hear from Biden's core support.

Michael K said...

Red States are mostly opening back up voluntarily, while Blue State governments are trying to maintain their autocratic rule.

There is now a group called "Too soon Arizona." I wonder who is funding them?

Rance Fasoldt said...

@Lewis Wetzel
Lotta lakes in that county. Good for you! (I was never in Hawaii for two weeks, but I couldn't wait to leave - lovely, but island fever.)

Kai Akker said...

Biden can do the world

But only if the world doesn't hear him creeping up on them, first. He has become a bit creaky from age.