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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 299 of 299Let's evaluate whose predictions have so far been closer to the truth.
On the second drop... from 11 million down to 2 million down to 200k... I took the under.
I suggested NYC was an outlier.
I suggested the Spring Breakers would suffer very few spreads on warm Florida beaches.
I suggested warm weather would slow the virus.
I suggested the economic effects would be worse for people's deaths than the virus.
I suggested the loss of taxes for states and municipalities would force them into BK.
I suggested hospitals would fall into BK.
I suggested universities would go bankrupt.
That's batting 1.000 and slugging 4.000 in the big leagues.
And for that I was told I didn't care about people.
Oh Yes Lewis I will get right back to you on that it's my number one priority your edification
'She really seems to care, about what i have no idea' it seems to fit. Thornton melons rather basic understanding of business contrasts with the ivory towsr notion of the economics prof. And the gag about vonnegut
Now that I'm older, I think you can tell me --
Was Miss Kitty a madam? That is, a prostitute?
Falls are common for runners on surfaces other than asphault- just part of the price you have to pay for trail/cross-country running. You learn how to fall pretty quickly.
“Anne I am must be new here.”
Hehehe.
Ooooooo doggie!
Yancey Ward,
Right? There is a fb group consisting of trail and ultra runners. Every once in awhile, we have a wound-fest. I don't mind those. Wow. I have seen some terrifying stuff. Bones jutting out. I feel pretty adept, all things considered. What I hate are the feet pictures.
And remember, even if the mask somehow prevents the transmission of the virus through the loose weave of the raggedy-ass bandana, as soon as you have touched one side and then touched the other, you have contaminated the clean side.
Maskers.(spits)
We all wish there was a magical thing that we could get that would make this go away. Ventilators, testing, contact tracing, masks. But magic isn't real.
Protect vulnerable populations, wash your hands, wear a mask, if you must, but don't demand that others do so, and get on with life.
This is a proven formula.
Masks, social-distancing, and stay-at-home orders for the healthy, all with the force of law, are NOT a proven formula.
“Then get back to us.”
I love the way she brings her minions into her argument.
Anne-I-Am,
You responded to somebody else but started your comment with my handle. (Unless that was a continuation of our conversation several nights ago.)
Further, the one who has got your goat is deleted. It is not worth engaging as all its comments will disappear. So just skip them.
Toy with Howard and Royal ass Inga. They are useful for laughs. Howard sometimes even intentionally so!
There is a large room full of people and some are actively infected. If you had to choose, would you prefer to go in there today or a month from now? If you had to go in within a month, would you prefer they stay as far away from each other as possible or mingle while you are waiting?
Something's gotten into our trolls. They seem so energetic lately.
This is why we cant have nice things, the last market collapse was because the experts tried ti create a new optimum atafe they saw a good economical housing and bent the laws of economics to accomodate that, we saw the result.
Now this is just a whole nother level of stupid shut down everything...profit make everyday human contact anathema everywhere and unicorns will release their product.
And . . . Howard comes up empty (no surprises).
It is not my job to convince you that you should not wear a mask (I really don't care), it is your job to convince me that science says I should wear a mask.
Failure, and self-confessed.
Typical intellectual cowardice from lackeys of the establishment.
Maskers. (spits)
That these corollaries flew straight into the face of the American Founders hardly needs explanation. The Declaration appealed to certain “self-evident truths” about human nature and human rights which were the fixed points to which all political construction had to adhere. The Fairfax Resolves of 1774 announced that the claims of “the British Crown” are “totally incompatible with the Privileges of a free People, and the natural rights of mankind,” and the Virginia Declaration of Rights proclaimed that “[a]ll men…have certain inherent natural Rights.” These rights were claimed (said Jefferson) not “under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of kings.” And this, argues Watson, was the touchstone of American political thinking straight up through Abraham Lincoln, for whom “the task of great political actors…was to look backward as much as—perhaps more than—forward.”
Indisputable as this may be, I don't think it leads us to an originalism based on the Natural Law. There was a shared understanding of what natural rights and their derivation from a power greater than that of man, but I don't think there was a path from there to interpretation of constitutional disputes in the light of what an undefined Natural Law would dictate.
I am much more comfortable sticking with the words that are written. So far, if only our "betters" would just read them and stick to them, I think they get us pretty far along the path of justice.
Blogger bagoh20 said...
There is a large room full of people and some are actively infected. If you had to choose, would you prefer to go in there today or a month from now? If you had to go in within a month, would you prefer they stay as far away from each other as possible or mingle while you are waiting?
5/10/20, 11:48 PM
Aah! But now make it not a choice for an individual, but the law, written by a political appointee?
Jon Ericson,
The trolls were strangely absent on the substantive posts Althouse offered.
Those were the ones highlighting how the last four years of MSM/CIA/FBI/NSA/IRS/5Is lies are lies. As we stated repeatedly on the non-sheep side of the aisle. So now the sheep must bray.
They're amusing. Substance free idiots.
The worst fall I ever took running was on asphault, though, not on a trail- I was running at night and tripped over a large hose that wasn't supposed to be across the paved running path. Scooped out an inch round piece of skin on my left knee. Since I wasn't otherwise hurt, I just kept running for another 45 minutes. When I got home, though, my left leg was a nightmarish thing to see- freaked out my girlfriend at the time- she thought I had been shot- the entire lower left leg was coated in blood.
Dave barry falls into the comic (in long form) in a way carl hiassen doesnt, its like will rogers vs mencken, the latter is sneering the former is supportive.
I feel like this is an episode of The Twilight Zone and when this is all over, we will leave our houses and find out that everything around us has been turned to rubble.
Serves my lousy neighbors right, I guess.
That first paragraph was a pull from the article at CRB that I linked earlier. My bad.
Birkel,
I am confuzzled. That happens. I thought I was replying to you. Maybe it was from an earlier conversation?
Why does Althouse tolerate these clowns? Other than Shouting Thomas, most of us try to avoid the nasty stuff (although every once in awhile, I get sucked in; NO DOG BISCUIT FOR ME!!!!). All they do is lower the collective IQ to absolute zero, Kelvin.
Maybe she is running some sort of weird experiment! Heh.
The No. 1 way to prevent coronavirus isn't wearing a face mask
This is one of a bunch of articles that discuss why masks don't work. I even linked the one from CBS News to show it's not a conservative media thing.
While other people were stocking up toilet paper, I got an industrial sized supply of Troll-B-Gon.
The main ingredient is truth.
Theres more than a touch of that, or like burgess meredith in the library episodea but libraries are verboten what fresh hell, subways the ultimate vector for transmission are ok (i understand the need, but still) church gatheringd are largely verboten, in many places in short humanity is verboten.
As for masks- unless they are N95 rated, they probably don't stop much in the way of microdroplets and viral particles. The cloth masks I see everyone making and using are probably mostly worthless after the first 10 minutes. Additionally, almost no one I have seen wears them correctly, and they are constantly adjusting them from my observations. The only time I have worn one is to the barber shop the other day, and I understand why you have to constantly adjust them- if you are talking at all, the masks stop fitting properly. Their prime benefit is going to be psychological for those who would otherwise cower in their homes.
heyboom,
Agreed completely. But no need to wash hands 20 times a day if you really are inside your own home. If you never leave and you are only around those whose presence you are always in, excess washing hands will only make your skin dry.
But if you're out and about, in any way, wash your hands. A lot!!
Birkel: "The "everybody stay six feet away" crowd should be able to point to some of those brilliant studies. Peer reviewed. Double blind.
And not laboratory conditions. Not what is theoretically possible. I would bet the distances required to be really safe would mean we all have to stand on our own separate square acre. But in the middle with some room for writhing as we slowly starve to death.
Anybody want to take that bet?"
It does seem strange that Howard spends all day speaking about science and data and math yet he can point to exactly zero studies which validate any of his claims.
Yet I shouldn't be surprised. Earlier today Howard decided to go Full Inga and simply deny the declassified transcripts of the lefty heroes testimony that disprove the entire hoax collusion lies even exist.
I mean, we all knew Inga would retreat into hilarious denial (like the chick screaming during Trump's inaugural), but I didn't expect Howard to do the same as he has on several occasions bucked the directives of the democrat establishment morons.
Oh well.
"Bullshit that someone is forcing ME into that room."
You are already in it, and it's full of the careless, the stupid, the young, the drunk and the friendly - maybe even some horny old hair sniffers, you know, regular people.
A lot of virtue signaling too.
@Anne-I-am:
I had to chuckle when you were describing the experience of being an ultra runner because it made me realize what a wimp I am, along with my other golf buddies. We played golf the past two days on the first weekend of the reopening of the courses in Long Beach. The course we played didn't cut the grass down to normal depth, so it was like walking on lush carpet. Made it tougher to push our carts through, and boy did we whine like little babies!
Thanks for providing some needed perspective.
Yancey,
You're a runner?!? I was beginning to feel like the sport here on Althouse. Except for our esteemed hostess, although I suspect her running is nothing like my running. That's ok; she has a decade on me. And I think she is newish to running. I have been at it since I was eleven.
The only serious fall I had was during a 30K on Mt Diablo. Coming down, running 6:30s, probably tired. Took a golf-ball-sized chunk out of my right knee. And skinned my nose and chin--which of course bled like Mofos. That was at mile 12. By mile 19, I looked like I had been attacked by a bear. And that was my story. And I am sticking to it.
Otherwise, it's all just superficial. Lots of blood, nothing to worry about. I guess I could dial it back, but what's the fun in that? I do kinda get a kick out of the fact that my running cohort (ages 25-75) think I am a badass. As do my kids.
I have sworn I would never do a hundo--but having done 50 at Antelope Canyon, I find my mind wandering to an "easy" hundred. Rocky Raccoon?
Yancey Ward,
One effective strategy for mask re-wearing, to my mind, is leaving the mask on the rear view mirror inside a car. 140 degrees F and some direct sunlight should clean the mask right up.
Thoughts?
Don't worry Anne, all of Mary's comments will be gone as soon as the Althouse wakes up.
I know of no other commenter who gets that treatment. Any and all of her comments go "poof", regardless of content.
And another every product doesnr have ti remind of our curcumstance; we are bloody (redacted) aware pitch me of your advantagea and disadvantages we dont need hollywood telling us 'we're all in this together' because its not equal. Not in the least.
@Anne-I-Am, the only part of Virginia that truly was devastated was the Shenandoah Valley, where I live a mere 155 years later. Its farms were the main source of food for Lee’s army, so Grant ordered Sheridan to ride down the valley and so thoroughly burn it that “a crow flying over it would have to carry his own [supplies].” But what Sheridan did in the Valley is nothing next to what Sherman did in Atlanta, marching from Atlanta to Savannah, and, especially marching north from Savannah through South Carolina.
Of course Richmond was burned to the ground, but the Confederates did that to themselves.
Its like we ventured into sleeper or thx 1138 when we werent looking. Except the world controllers dont have to abide
"Why does Althouse tolerate these clowns? Other than Shouting Thomas, most of us try to avoid the nasty stuff (although every once in awhile, I get sucked in"
Annie, you get sucked in because you find it hard to believe adults can be such pissy, petty, stupid little dolts that their only recreation in life is to stir up shit on a blog. Mary is obsessed with Althouse and Althouse's personal life, Howard is going senile (I'd feel pity for him, but his senility has taken a nasty form) and Inga - well, needless to say her name is synonymous with stupidity here.
Don't bother to treat them seriously. They are contemptible assholes.
PPE
Heyboom,
Ha. I love to play golf. I SUCK. And that is an understatement.
I played in a 9-hole league with a good friend back in the Midwest. She is the psycho I credit with getting me back into racing (which I hate and despise). She is a terrific road runner.
There we would be, usually on the par 5, sneaking up on the green (that's how I describe it)...and one of us would say, "This is why we run."
Still, a wonderful way to enjoy a summer evening.
Honestly, my total lack of hand-eye coordination is why I run. I suck at everything else. I don't think I have managed to hit a softball pitched to me even once in my life. In basketball, I am ferocious on defense (because no one can match my stamina), but I couldn't hit the basket if it were the size of a Pontiac.
Does sport include hunting?
One tries to avoid then but they throw bear scat everywhere, that will be the next vector.
@Birkel
Lol, I'm married to a nurse (25 years!), hand washing is a way of life for me even under normal circumstances.
Hey, even Michigan was way down to only 25 deaths today. Fantastic.
Sweden had 5. Must have been their lock down.
Female comediennes? Lucile Ball, when once asked who the best one was, unhesitatingly replied: "Ann Southern." (I remembered her from hugely popular 50s long-running "dramedy" TV show "Private Secretary" which later morphed into "The Ann Southern Show.") Check out her extensive bio (in mainly film, which was big surprise to me who knew her only from TV.)
That's power, baby.
5/11/20, 12:07 AM
"Power"
Jesus Christ, you're a loon.
You spend time here because in real life people avoid you like the poisonous hag you are. Who on earth would want your company?
Joan Rivers.
Birkel: "Yancey Ward, One effective strategy for mask re-wearing, to my mind, is leaving the mask on the rear view mirror inside a car. 140 degrees F and some direct sunlight should clean the mask right up."
I have one of those blue/white masks that the good folks at Kroger/King Soopers gave me 2 weeks ago when they cracked down on murderers like myself walking around.
Of course, the manager gal was quite apologetic about it and wasn't pushy at all so what the heck, I took the mask. I keep it in the car and reuse it everytime I go to that store.
Target personnel don't yell at me for not wearing it so I don't wear it there and the nursery folks don't require it either but do limit the number of customers in the store at one time.
Home Depot: not a problem.
Lowes: not a problem.
And our salons/barbershops are open again as of today, so I fully expect 1.7 Million dead within the next 72 hours.
This thread makes me feel like a freshman at the fraternity party where at 3 am the guys watch the older drunk girls call each other stupid cunts and tell them that they suck dong.
Anne,
I was a an avid runner for most of my adult life- 6-10 miles every other day. I reluctantly gave it up to avoid later in life knee problems at age 47 (almost 7 years ago). I took up less impactful cardio. I still dream regularly about running, and I miss it pretty much all time.
Virgil,
OK. I will do that. I do love Lucy. What a talent. Beautiful, but with that amazingly pliant face. Jim Carey has the same thing going.
Birkel,
Ah, sport. I would like to hunt, but no one has ever taken me. No, sport as in outlier. When something or someone is a sport, they are way off the norm. Which I often am, being a geeky, Aspbergery, pedantic athlete. And a grammar Nazi. Who fortunately has not much to do here on Althouse. (Every once in awhile, I get the itch...)
I do enjoy your comments. You just don't beat around the bush. But you aren't gratuitously nasty. I like that.
Josephbleau,
The parties I attended did not have the girls talking about that.
heyboom@12:10M
Heh, I hear ya brother! Married to an RN for 47 years..
Its about time for the murder hornets to open for blondie, what fresh hell, how about manslaughter hornets
"Nope, I'm isolating."
"Thanks". Well send someone for you when it's safe to come out. I promise.
It looks like an extra Twilight Zone script ended up on the Alfred Hitchcock Show instead, with Dick York suddenly finding that his girlfriend and others have no idea who he is.
Anne-I-am,
I'm just the opposite. I get bored quickly if I don't have a ball in my hand while running. I played a couple of months ago with a couple who were planning to run the Long Beach marathon the next day. Pretty impressive, but it would kill me.
"Honestly, my total lack of hand-eye coordination is why I run. I suck at everything else"
That's why I swim and bike. I marvel at runners and tried to become one myself when I was younger, but I never got close to getting that "runner's high" that so many told me about. No, it was agony from start to finish and euphoria never entered the picture. And as I got older, I started worrying about the impact it would have on my knees.
Something for Althouse, away from all this endless to and fro, about one of the more interesting people Australia has produced: David Walsh.
Long profile, but if you're at all interested in art, and haven't yet heard of MONA, it's worth the time to read.
I heard that Elizabeth Montgomery had the same reaction after a few seasons.
Led me to lose a lot of respect for her.
@Mark:
It looks like an extra Twilight Zone script ended up on the Alfred Hitchcock Show instead, with Dick York suddenly finding that his girlfriend and others have no idea who he is.
Is that the episode that ends with him having three baseball cards in his pocket?
Anne,
I have a habit of spotting the bad faith commenters earliest. No need to wait on them to be so obvious that everybody recognizes them for what they are.
Royal ass Inga asked me to call her Royal ass, so I do. If she asked me to stop, I would.
I call Smug that because I am trying to help him. He doesn't want to see it. And I won't spend my time trying to convince him. He's a grown up.
When I tell people they are what they reveal themselves to be, somehow that doesn't sit well. I sleep like a baby. Clear conscience.
Yancey,
Oh. I am SO sorry. I have mixed opinions about the running thing.
On the one hand, I have been running for 45 years, and I have suffered no harm. The few times I have been x-rayed, the orthopods have swooned over my joints. (When I fell on Mt Diablo, I had x-rays to make sure I hadn't fractured the patella). The ortho then said he was going to use my x-rays as a teaching tool--what good female knees should look like. My hips are pristine.
Then again, my BMI is 18. I am not putting a tremendous load on my joints.
I encourage you to pick up a book. (It is, literally, heavy.). Becoming a Supple Leopard. Much pain is soft tissue pain--from poor posture, bad gait, lack of strength where we need it. The author has all sorts of very practical solutions to the pain. In my experience with active release therapy (which I also recommend), this book leads you to many of the same techniques.
Bottom line? You may be able to run more than you think. Any pain you experience may be attributable to issues that have nothing to do with running, and everything to do with our sedentary lifestyle. Just thoughts. And fair play to you for keeping otherwise active.
Of course, with all this talk --
https://youtu.be/U5Hbh3HDekM
Virgil, I hope I can make it that long with mine. Congrats! Is she still working or retired?
Speak of the Devil.
It's not the level of data that I presume could be gleaned from store receipt volume, cashier log-ins and sick leave, but still a peek into things in the forward public facing jobs:
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
·
15h
From @UFCW
- a union that represents grocery workers nationally and is unlikely to understate #COVID deaths: 1.3 million members working mostly in public-facing jobs; 72 reported deaths. Fatality rate 0.0055% over a two-month period...
http://www.ufcw.org/2020/04/28/wmdreport/
Is that the episode that ends with him having three baseball cards in his pocket?
Ending now . . .
. . . six cards. Yep.
I am not what a person would think a runner would look like or weigh. I am average height, but I am thickly and broadly built. Even without any fat, my running weight was never under 185 pounds- that is a lot of stress on the joints over a 6-10 mile run that involved lots of hills. I wasn't having serious problems with the knees- just nagging injuries that became more frequent the last two years I did run. I won't be taking it up again.
Jeez, JF and Mark,
You guys have watched too much TV. /joke
When I tell people they are what they reveal themselves to be, somehow that doesn't sit well. I sleep like a baby. Clear conscience.
"I am what I think you think I am." - C. Cooley
Washington Post headline --
Doctors continue to discover new ways the coronavirus attacks the body
Kidney damage, blood clots and even “covid toes” prompt a reassessment of the disease and how it should be treated.
That effing Trump! Once again he finds a new way to totally screw humanity.
I discovered in my 20's that my joints weren't tolerant of running on pavement. I've been running on grass ever since...with a bit o' advil and anti-inflammation supps.
You have to say it like dave thomas impersonating max von sydow, mark.
Another Washington Post headline -
Metro’s coronavirus recovery plan shows full service not likely to resume until next spring
The transit agency will ask the region’s employers to limit daily commuters by staggering work schedules and encouraging telework.
When I took the subway in Paris, one thing that struck me, besides the automated trains with no drivers, was that the windows opened and fresh air was blowing in.
The Wendy's guy did impersonations? Awesome!
This probably goes on the other thread
https://mobile.twitter.com/GoldsteinBrooke/status/1259706032898674689
The v comparison doesnt seem far off although jane badler seemed more empathetic than wilmer.
As with 60 minutes if you dont feel bone chilling fear and dispair their work isnt done
heyboom@12:25AM/
She's retired. She did so to care for me roughly 10 rs ago as I'm an AF Vietnam combat veteran now on total disability from Parkinsons Disease triggered by Agent Orange--got into the water supply @DaNang. (otherwise, she wanted to work until seventy--her current age--you know how RNs are :) )
Sorry to hear that. My late father and my uncle both had mysterious ailments that we're pretty sure were the result of Agent Orange exposure. I wish you the best and bless your wife for being there for you. On a lighter note, my wife had a coworker who was 81 and a Holocaust survivor and now works with one who is 76.
Comment on Farmer's comment -
At the risk of sounding like Friedman, that economic convergence is happening, and has been happening for the last 30-40 years, though at different rates in different places, and the "economic takeoff" point has been delayed here and there. But in East Asia in total that takeoff has started, it seems self sustaining, and I don't think natural disasters or even great power wars are going to do more than delay it or slow it down for a few years. The pursuit of foreign markets for export growth is going to continue, but economic takeoff happens when domestic consumption drives it, driven by productivity growth created by exploitation of prevailing technology. And that can be seen not just in the numbers but with our own senses.
My POV is not limited to Asian taxi drivers, as me and mine really are old Asia hands. But I am one man. So for what its worth, you could call me Friedman but with less money. But still ..
Back in 2017 we went on a road trip through eight Philippine provinces, covering the territory of at least four languages. These are the "backward" bits of East Asia, long suffering through net-zero per capita growth. The capital always did glitter some, but out there it had always been the eighteenth century. This trip updated me, more than anything, on what I have missed these last thirty years.
What did they have? Mansions out in the ricefields, every few hundred yards. Jollibee (Filipino fast food chain) franchises that are nicer (clean, hi tech, free wifi, etc) than any US fast food joint in San Francisco - in small towns in the middle of nowhere. Tricicle drivers who tell you to look them up on Facebook.
The old village societies, dependent on agriculture and feudal patronage are gone. They now have a shortage of farmers, for heavens sake - constant stories of farmers averaging over 60 years old, and there are billboard ads touting careers in agriculture and asking for applicants to be farm workers! And this is in provinces where communist rebels, for decades, used to exploit the peasants demand for land reform, in places where there were too many people trying to make a living on too little land, leading to tremendous rural unemployment. Now they can't get people to work the land.
You want universal cell signal, mass internet use, consumerism American style? They have it. The government cannot keep up with the exploding demands on public infrastructure. But the masses, for the first time, know that they need it, and will get it.
They have their own ravenous domestic market for everything, and the capacity and knowledge to produce it. That is economic takeoff.
And Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, are better off than that.
Birkel @ 12:03... Sunlight and heat should do, however it degrades the elastic bands which break at the anchor point.
Have a friend who ran cross country in HS, state champ, and continued into middle age. His knees are torturous to him now. Great health otherwise. Misses the endorphins, though.
Comedian? Elayne Boosler was ramping on a roll for a while. Andy's untimely death took her down.
It has occurred to me that Howards and Ingas of the world are the modern equivalent of those dunk tank clowns that used to work at the state fairs and carnivals. In this instance however, they lack creativity.
I worked along side a lot of Viet Nam vets back in the day. Many wierd illnesses indeed. One fella did 2 tours in I Corps, got hosed down pretty well. He was a walking malady. Great bunch of people to work with.
The value of masks cannot be evaluated with current information. Especially not when used by the public, in uncontrolled complex environments of daily life, with endless confounding variables, known ones, and, more so, so far unknown ones. And we don't have data even on how much they are being used.
There are no true experts without data, information. They can sound authoritative but they may as well be prescribing leeches.
And anecdotal information is all over the place. Here is mine -
In the Basque country people are responsible, orderly, civic minded, diligent, even "Karens". Very unlike the Spanish stereotype. So masks are religiously worn, in Bilbao anyway. This city is however a bad spot for covid.
In Andalucia, in the larger city of Sevilla say, we are told, the much more whimsical and disorderly natives are much less diligent about this, as with all other things. But these people have barely felt a touch of Covid.
Confounding variables, etc. and etc. But no "expert" could have predicted this outcome. And what makes an expert is the ability to, more or less accurately, predict outcomes.
Their results indicate that masking can significantly reduce virus spread if adopted sufficiently early. 100% mask adoption at the beginning of an outbreak results in a dramatic decrease in the number of infections, while 90% adoption has a good chances of suppression after 50 days. However, 50% adoption or waiting until day 75 to institute a mask policy were found to be insufficient.
This is science according to Inga.
A whole paragraph of science that means anything you want it to mean.
"dramatic decrease" vs "good chance. all the way to "insufficient" Wow, that sure is sciency, it moved me.
@buwaya:
They have their own ravenous domestic market for everything, and the capacity and knowledge to produce it. That is economic takeoff.
And Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, are better off than that.
I used to live in southeast Asia, in Bangkok and in the Golden Triangle region of Laos, Burma, and Thailand. I have seen the kind of developmental improvements you are referring to, and I do not disagree with much of what you wrote. But while the economic growth brought about by globalization has solved some old problems, it will also cause new ones.
Economic growth in Thailand, for example, has disproportionately flowed to big family-owned conglomerates like Central Group, dozens of state-owned enterprises, and the Thai Chinese minority who have long dominated the business community there. This exacerbated class tensions in Thailand and was a major contributor to the 2006 coup coup d'état against Thaksin Shinawatra. Thailand has remained politically unstable since. Prayut Chan-o-cha led the junta that seized power in 2014, pushed through a new constitution in 2017, and since 2019 has ruled officially as the prime minister and the head of the defense ministry and national police force.
Mark: THanks for the report from Antietam. I live close enough for a day trip. Do you think I can bring my dog?
Imagine how this blog would read if Ms. Althouse deleted all the comments that hurled insults at others. It gets so tedious.
Alisyn Camerota is wearing glasses today. That makes her serious, trustworthy, and wise.
300 or so comments ago, reinfection was mentioned. How would that work? My understanding is that overcoming a viral infection involves figuring out the right antibodies, then cranking up their production. Your future immunity is a result of your immune system recognizing a virus, and knowing what antibodies to produce. This is why using serum from people who have defeated a disease works, and why vaccinations work - essentially telling the recipient’s immune system how to fight a given virus.
My understanding is that for the most part reinfection is actually novel infection by a virus that has mutated enough not to be fully recognized by a person’s immune system. The flu is esp bad there because it annually roars around the world infecting probably hundreds of millions, and mutates at a pretty good clip, compared to many other viruses. So what appears to be reinfection is actually novel infection by a related virus.
SARS-CoV-2 (the COVID-19 virus) appears to mutate at a moderate rate. Less than some other viruses. More than others. Enough that spread can be somewhat tracked by what strain is detected. It’s virulence may be lessening, or that may be wishful thinking based on the general observation that viruses mostly tend to become less virulent as they progressively evolve.
That is my obviously lay understanding of virology. Enlightenment is thus sought.
As a note, someone above suggested that the evidence for actual COVID-19 reinfection appears to be collapsing. This would make sense to me given the limits to my lay understanding of how our immune systems fight viral infections. But if reinfection is not happening, then what is the purpose of people who have successfully overcome the virus wearing masks? Other than virtue signaling, of course.
Anne I Am,
I absolutely love your style of writing. Thank you for participating. You are a breath of fresh air to these threads.
You can bring a dog on a leash to a battlefield, but please be mindful of the place and respectful of the men who died there. A dog running around may think it is a place to play.
Warm, mo[i]st fabric is great way to keep viruses safe & allow them to multiply.
This part of your spiel is quite wrong, Lewis. Viruses are not like bacteria, eukarya, or archaea — which is to say: they (infectious virus particles) are not alive — meaning they aren't made up of living cells, therefore cannot (like those other living things) consume/eat raw materials (whether substantial or light) taken from the environment — and thus viruses cannot independently (of other life) grow and multiply.
Viruses per se can only reproduce in the environment of infected living cells — mammalian cells, in the case of this type of coronavirus.
Inga said...
https://royalsociety.org/news/2020/05/delve-group-publishes-evidence-paper-on-use-of-face-masks/
“DELVE group publishes evidence paper on the use of face masks in tackling Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic
Key points in the paper include:
Asymptomatic (including presymptomatic) infected individuals are infectious.
Stop right there. Any basis to assert that asymptomatic individuals are contagious has to be re-founded. The study you or these people are relying on for that centers on a woman from Shanghai who was a spreader in Germany. It was assumed that she was asymptomatic, but later it was learned that she was not asymptomatic.
Howard said...
Dialed up to 11. That's laying it on thick, even for you narisco. We're just having a spot of fun pulling the wings off of flies
Can't imagine why anyone would be this way, really can't imagine why anyone would admit it, absolutely can't imagine why anyone would brag of it.
Have you ever been hurt, really, really badly?
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