March 12, 2020

The naturalistic moments before and after the President's speech. Laugh, if you like. I find it oddly comforting — reality, humanity.

Before:

After:

63 comments:

stevew said...

If you can't laugh or chuckle at this sort of thing then I'm afraid you just aren't going to make it through. McKibben ought to think about that during his time in social distancing and isolation.

rehajm said...

Candid comments into an open mic are quite different than the calculated candid comments into an open mic we're normally subjected to at election time.

peacelovewoodstock said...

Media has been sowing the wind with Covid-19 scare, now they are shocked that they are reaping the whirlwind.

Hosea 8:7.

Play with fire, you're likely to get burnt.

Andrew said...

I 100% agree. He's endearing, except to the haters.

traditionalguy said...

Good catch. The Commander is relaxed .

mccullough said...

Trump’s “game face” is oddly comforting.

He would be a good NBA commissioner.

Mal said...

At least he didn't rip a loud one!


https://youtu.be/jD_VX9SLfsc

Temujin said...

Thank God Obama never had any human moments.

(I think Andrew Ross Sorkin and Thomas Friedman are discussing that right now on CNBC)

Birches said...

Yep. He's the same guy he always is. It's the thing people that hate him hate, but I find it comforting too.

wendybar said...

Dumb.

RMc said...

I figured a handful of media outlets (NY Post, Fox) would like the president's speech, and everybody else would blast it.

Right again.

henry said...

Ignore all facts, focus on emotions. Very sciency.

BlackjohnX said...

Why do you post items if you are not prepared to start moderating? Why do you moderate at all? It adds nothing to the dialogue and "banned" contributors continue to show up. The interaction amongst the commenters is one of the primary virtues of this blog. Moderation simply stifles honesty and spontaneity.

GatorNavy said...

Somebody is going to make a YUGE deal about these two moments

Fernandistein said...

Finding "reality, humanity" in a couple of online videos is probably a symptom of "social isolation". Just a wild guess.

GatorNavy said...

Somebody is going to make a YUGE deal about these two moments

TreeJoe said...

You mean our president is a character who curses?

OMG!!!

I love this stuff too :)

narciso said...

the daily show, is a contagion,

Phidippus said...

Temujin said: "Thank God Obama never had any human moments."

God doesn't enter into it. The animatronics just don't support that feature.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Do you think he needed Wite-Out (“white stuff”) for his sleeve or his collar?

Drago said...

This seems like "a big f***ing deal"......

Totally agree with the above commenters re: totally consistent, totally natural, authentic.

And if you disagree you are lying dog-faced pony soldier because of...the...uh...thing.

Wince said...

I got the feeling Trump was a little nervous, uncomfortable delivering his prepared remarks, compared to speaking more extemporaneously on the stump complete with audience interaction.

It seemed he wanted to limit his time for that reason, yet tried to cram more in that time than what was a comfortable pace for him.

All while he was "semi-quarantined" without a live audience in the Oval Office.

Mr. Majestyk said...

Impeach!

Mr. Majestyk said...

Let me rephrase that: Impeach the mother f**ckr!

Static Ping said...

I rarely ever watch speeches. I watched this one. I thought he did a good job. He did seem a little nervous. Obama was great at reading off a teleprompter and terrible otherwise. Trump is the reverse, though his teleprompter reading is better than Obama's extemporaneous.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Trump's remarks seems to have calmed the markets - and that's the important thing.

Sebastian said...

"totally consistent, totally natural, authentic"

This is what his enemies miss. They are happy doing so, as it elevates their self-regard and serves to confirm their disdain for us deplorables.

But it is something I had to learn. As an anti-Trump GOPer in 2016, I viewed him as a clown, a con man. I still think he could do with a little less hyperbole, a little more serious analysis. But Trump came through on his main promises, showed fortitude in resisting the resistance, read the political situation at home and abroad more accurately than most, was himself in all things more than any other politician. The man is no clown, and the record no con. The con was what he faced.

rcocean said...

Pretty good speech, but Trump doesn't like these serious, set-piece speeches. He likes informal, and off the cuff. Can you imagine Slow Joe giving us a speech like that? Think of gaffes, assuming he could stay with the text and didn't curse or start talking about his marching with MLK.

Reagan was the best at giving speeches. All others have paled next to him.

Money Manger said...

I read a lot of Bloomberg News (part of my job). When Mike was still a candidate they tried to be objective, albeit with a typical New York liberal tone. Now that Mike is out, the mask has dropped. Mini-me MSNBC.

rcocean said...

Has any MSM liberal, Congressional Democrat, or Never-trumper pundit PRAISED Trump for anything in the last 3 years?

I don't think so. Its just attack/criticize 24/7/365. Constant negativity. And if they can't find anything by Trump to attack, they change the subject or go silent.

Mark said...

Trump, closing the barn door well after the horse escaped.

rcocean said...

In terms of Prepared Speeches I'd rate the Presidents as follows:

Reagan - A
Obama - B
Clinton - C+
Bush II - C
Carter - C
Bush I - C-
Ford - D

Ford was horrible. But then he was never elected VP or President, he was SELECTED.

rcocean said...

"Trump, closing the barn door well after the horse escaped."

What a clever, if extremely vague phrase. What specifically should Trump have done prior to this? And what impact would it have had?

Please give us the facts.

narciso said...

What is the point to sell everything, its like the stew where you throw in the spoiledfish with the fresh.

Kovacs said...

He tanked the stock market again, made mistakes that the White House had to immediately correct, panicked Americans overseas because he said they'd be banned from returning home, surprised and dismayed our European allies and the insurance companies, and generally demonstrated a shaky, at best, understanding of his administration's policies in dealing with this crisis. But weren't those human moments before and after "oddly comforting"! It is indeed odd that you found anything comforting in that performance.

narciso said...

He closed the door from china and them iran and italy, meanwhile the who had their hand up their (redacted)

tcrosse said...

Trump speaks. The market tanks (also FTSE and Nikkei). Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

rehajm said...

If you can keep your head when those about you are losing there's and blaming it on you...

rehajm said...

Rememer one short month ago when he stopped the flights from China and he was blamed for unnecessary steps that were somehow, mysteriously exacerbating the outbreak?

No, I know you don't...

Michael K said...

It is indeed odd that you found anything comforting in that performance.

Yes, Joe Biden would have done so much better.

minnesota farm guy said...

Good piece detailing Trump's early Covid moves while the assholes were trying to impeach him.

Darcy said...

Sometimes the facts are such that they are not going to calm the markets. There is uncertainty that is not this president's fault.

I was comforted by the president's tone and seriousness. I was annoyed that either he did not read his speech correctly, or his aides let him down by allowing some pretty major errors of fact to be left in his speech. Either way, that is Trump's ultimate responsibility. Get it right, dammit.

Does that mean I have concerns about this administration's effort and competence? No. I think they are working very hard to mitigate the effects of this pandemic. I think the president cares deeply about mitigating it. Additionally, it is not entirely on him. Local government has to be diligent, responsive and agile. The citizenry must step up as well. I think he made that point very clearly. Let's do this.

Ken B said...

With trump haters I increasingly feel like I must be missing something. They show something meaningless and expect me to share their outrage/contempt/hatred. It does not matter what Trump did in those few seconds, whatever it was would have gotten — not garnered — the same treatment. Trump blinks, fuck but he is awful. Trump doesn’t blink, what kind of fucking awful freak doesn’t blink.

Ken B said...

Rcocean
Reagan was pretty damned good off the cuff too. A sneering reporter asked him what was his “plan” for Cold War. “What's my plan? How about, we win, they lose. How do you like that?”

Skeptical Voter said...

Obama's public speaking improved when he went to multiple teleprompters. He was not a good public speaker and only a mediocre teleprompter reader.

Early in his administration he tended to use a single teleprompter. That meant his head was fixed in one direction, rather than moving back and forth "engaging" with his audience. Add one more teleprompter and shazam! his head started to move back and forth as his gaze shifted from teleprompter 1 to teleprompter 2.

I enjoy watching a well delivered speech. A professional speaker (and trial lawyers are professional speakers--at least the successful ones are) has prepared and has either memorized or knows what he wants to say.

I think part of Obama's problem was that he was basically lazy. He'd not prepare--and would just read whatever was on the teleprompter--he first learned what was there about half a second before he spoke it. You have to be a better natural speaker than Obama to get away with that.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

It’s just much more important that we assign blame instead of cooly observing and evaluating.

mockturtle said...

Trump sounded hoarse and does not seem well. He continues to shake hands with people. He needs to be tested. And Pence has been exposed for over a week. The last thing we can afford right now is for the President and VP to be incapacitated.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Mark said...
Trump, closing the barn door well after the horse escaped.

3/12/20, 9:31 AM

It's much better to let in more vectors of disease.

That way, we can blame Trump when an outbreak is traced to an Italian or German tourist.

The important thing is Blame Trump For Everything.

Gk1 said...

I rarely watch speeches and only see the odd Trump clip but watched last nights speech. It looked like he was suppressing a lot of energy and trying to project an aura of calm. The TDS sufferers are having a conniption fit this morning so it must have really done well. I'll take this crude, bombastic, showman over a crisp pants crease than can talk using a teleprompter any day of the week.

henge2243 said...

It seems clear to me from looking at memeorandum.com that President Trump has bungled the response to Covid 19. But, these leading lights never tell us what the correct response was. Nor do they tell us what the correct response is going forward.

Regardless, I started free-basing again a few days ago and am beginning to understand the deductive logic necessary to understand their conclusions. I think if I hop back on the horse again I'll truly understand,.

narciso said...

Looks like you picked a bad week to quit...

Unknown said...

What about the lack of testing?

rcocean said...

We have 1,000 cases and 38 deaths. How would MORE "Testing" in February have saved any lives? We have 320 million people.

And saying "What about..." isn't a fact or any specific situation where Trump's actions made the situation SIGNIFICANTLY Worse.

Darcy said...

I understand the lack of available tests was in large part caused by the CDC distributing tests that did not work properly so they have had to scramble to distribute the effective tests. Apparently, the anti-Trump media may not have accurately reported this. For how this is Trump's fault, you would have to mine the dark recesses of the leftist mind, or in many cases, your own blind hate. No thanks.

Bay Area Guy said...

I thought the speech was good, even though I largely disagree with the overall approach on substance.

Trump struck a sober, low-key tone, which hit the right mark, politically.

No politician wants to state publicly, that this is not a big deal, and then be proven wrong if viral body bags start mounting.

So, politically, Trump has to take the position that it is a serious threat, and we are mounting a serious response.

Of course, the last two US winter flu seasons saw, 61,000 and 35,000 deaths, respectively, and I'm not even sure we blogged about it back then or gave it a second thought.....

Stephen said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/upshot/coronavirus-biggest-worry-hospital-capacity.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I wish that the President had shown some awareness of this critical issue.

Karlito2000 said...

You want to read about the fubar that led to the lack of testing, read this:

https://www.city-journal.org/overregulation-of-diagnostic-testing-coronavirus

Stephen said...

Bay Area guy--comparisons to the flu, echoing those of the President, are dangerous and misinformed

To begin with, we have a vaccine for the flu, but not for corona virus.

The mortality rate for corona virus is estimated to be about 10 times higher than the flu, assuming good treatment is available.

The transmission rate is twice as high as the flu.

And all that assumes that the pandemic doesn't lead to the kind of hospital overload that occurred in Wuhan and is now occurring in Italy. If that occurs, then death rates will spike to much higher levels.

You should stop believing Trump's BS. It is deeply harmful.

Gk1 said...

What's deeply harmful is trying to politicize a health crisis like you and the democrats are doing. Politics shouldn't mean that much to democrats like you, but here we are. Seem like everything Trump says or does is wrong which is fine. But it may keep people from protecting themselves or helping to stoke full, unreasoning panic. Stop. Stop right now.

mockturtle said...

Trump is not a specialist in the fields of virology and immunology and should defer to Dr. Fauci in these matters. As Dr. Fauci said, if he had questions about buying real estate in NY, Trump would be a good source of information. This is no knock on Trump. He's President and not a virologist. And I'm one of his biggest supporters but I think there's a lot of pressure from the GOP related to market concerns to perhaps downplay this pandemic.

narciso said...

yes and he's relying on the best medical advice, not the hacks who failed the hini outbreak, you think every company should dump their stock, how does that solve anything,

wbfjrr2 said...

Stephen, you don’t even understand your own words. We have vaccines for the flu and STILL have tens of thousands die from it here in the US each year, and hundreds of thousands globally.

Yet your sure covid19 is sooooooooo much worse. Why, we have 40 dead, doncha know, over several months. Roughly 200, on average, died TODAY from flu.

Stephen said...

wbfjr2:

Your ignorance is dangerous.

Read this study and then tell me that Covid 19 is not dangerous. https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

Here's the punchline from the study:

"When you’re done reading the article, this is what you’ll take away:
The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.
As a politician, community leader or business leader, you have the power and the responsibility to prevent this.
You might have fears today: What if I overreact? Will people laugh at me? Will they be angry at me? Will I look stupid? Won’t it be better to wait for others to take steps first? Will I hurt the economy too much?
But in 2–4 weeks, when the entire world is in lockdown, when the few precious days of social distancing you will have enabled will have saved lives, people won’t criticize you anymore: They will thank you for making the right decision."

Now, do I hope that's wrong? Of course I do. Do I think its prudent to act as if its wrong, when the situations in China and Italy indicate that it is correct? Of course not. Where are you on this issue, wbfjrr2--do you really reject the science and trust our stable genius to handle this?