A massive 200 Billion Dollar Sea Wall, built around New York to protect it from rare storms, is a costly, foolish & environmentally unfriendly idea that, when needed, probably won’t work anyway. It will also look terrible. Sorry, you’ll just have to get your mops & buckets ready!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2020
January 19, 2020
The wall Trump opposes.
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Totally worth it if it keeps New Yorkers in...
Nothing wrong with it as long as New York pays for it.
I just finished binging the fourth season of The Expanse. It is set a few centuries in the future and Manhattan is like The Netherlands.
Escape from New York was fiction, right?
Interesting question:
Is it acceptable for the president of the U.S. to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival?
The public apparently believes that, no it is not acceptable to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.
Mexico will pay for it.
ARM:
Lefties would beg Idi Amin to investigate Trump (or any Republican honestly) if they thought it would help them. It's all fake virtue signalling bullshit.
Make Adrienne* Great Again !
*Barbeau
I'd chip in a few bucks if it would keep New Yorkers in.
The seawall didn't keep Katrina out of New Orleans.
I thought the tweet was hilarious. But I'm completely perplexed about what Trump's strategy is here. From a "3d chess" perspective, what is he trying to accomplish?
" no it is not acceptable to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.”
Good thing that’s not what actually happened.
"Build the Sea Wall!" just doesn't have the fierce urgency of now.
"From a "3d chess" perspective, what is he trying to accomplish?”
It’s 11d chess, and we won’t know until it plays out.
It’s fitting that the old Dutch city of New Amsterdam should become a polder.
The left heard Schitt's lies and made-up remarks and swallowed it all whole
Why is it illegal to investigate Biden's obvious crimes?
This doesn't have anything to do with the 20ft increase in sea level that AL Gore predicted "in the near future" back in 2008, does it?
Interestingly, I recently saw a show on PBS where an environmentalist was showing how a sea wall was a problem for the environment when storms hit — wetlands and beaches absorb storm surge while sea walls reflect it back and generally add to the havoc. Or so the environmentalist claimed. World is full of self-described environmentalists who turn out to know damned little. But what he said had the ring of common sense.
Lefties would beg Idi Amin to investigate Trump (or any Republican honestly) if they thought it would help them. It's all fake virtue signalling bullshit.
Or even get foreign intelligence services to tap the phones of a political rival.
But oh, that's totally different because...reasons.
He's not wrong.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=new+city+discovered+under+the+sea
It’s been going on since the dawn of civilization, and as I understand it, some time before the invention of the Chevy Suburban.
Open Borders for all sea life!
Wrt BCARM at 5:08 pm:
A more honest question to ask the public would be “Is it appropriate for a president to investigate the Vice President of a previous administration that was involved with a government that tried to sabotage the election of the now-serving president ?”
You’re likely to get a different answer.
I don’t understand this new category of human- political rival. What’s the origin of that title- middle school?
We have a good solution to the CO2 emissions issue already and it's called molten salt reactors.
These could be implemented very quickly, within decades, and would cost less than it would cost to even seriously think about planning such a silly idea as a wall around New York.
That seems improbable, avenue 5 a new series from the makers of veep, a similar scenario, also that terrible dr. Who episode.
It’ll keep all the PCBs from the Hudson concentrated around midtown.
I can see LLR-lefty Chuck remains quite bitter over the passed USMCA which closes the horrific NAFTA backdoor loophole which allowed our global competitors to completely screw the US on tariff avoidance while maintaining hugh tariffs on US products exported to those nations.
By closing this massive loophole Trump in one fell swoop put ALL future negotiating leverage back in US hands, where it belongs.
Btw, readers here will recall LLR-lefty Chuck going Full Moron Krugman in predicting Trump would complete ZERO trade deals. Zero!
In the real world which is nowhere near LLR-lefty world, Trump renegotiated massive and important trade deals across the board: China Phase 1, USMCA, Japan and South Korea with India/US close to completion, China Phase 2 underway and independent Britain/US in early stages with accelerated discussions by the time of Davos.
Further, Trump's "Britain at the front of the queue" deal is in marked contrast with obamas threatened "Britain to the back of the queue" threat and will be used by both Britain and the US to push back hard against LLR-lefty Chuck's beloved European socialists in upcoming trade talks.
I. Can't. Wait.
If he did support building the wall, he would be a huge beneficiary given how much property he owns in the area.
People would be screaming about self-dealing.
As for what he is hoping to accomplish, I suspect it is saving an unnecessary expense of $200,000,000,000 dollars.
And Chuck, the Mexican's are paying for the wall. Not the way you think they should, writing a check. Not as good as a permanent wall that can't be sent home tomorrow.
But 20m Mexican troops on the border, paid for by Mexico, is a pretty good start.
John Henry
Remember, LLR-lefty Chuck confidently and arrogantly predicted ZERO trade deals by Trump.
Zero.
Unexpectedly.
Maybe they saw day after tomorrow or geostorm (no one saw geostorm, to andy gardias regret)
tcrosse: Leaving the maintenance of the pumps and levees to the local administration didn't help the situation in New Orleans, that's for sure. If the police in that town were doing their job, they'd have to arrest themselves. (Pro tip: Don't build
I look forward to watching future NYC mayors take on this challenge. Since Trump opposed it, of course they'll feel duty-bound to go ahead and build it so they can prove him wrong.
The Ghost of Chernobyls Past smiles.
Garcias regret. Also gerald butler. Now there was a 1938 storm that did great damage.
Rejahm,
Are there PCBs in the Hudson near Manhattan?
I thought they were all in the upper Hudson near Fort Edward, about 200 miles north of NYC.
They are buried under sediment and there is next to no flow in the Hudson so they have not moved much.
That's my understanding but I don't claim to be up to date on it.
I think the wall would be an environmental disaster.
John Henry
Theres also the dam that blocks the entrabce to the Capitol in mockingjay part one
LLR-lefty Chuck is also very very very upset that Trump has reduced cross-border incursions by 75%, Mexico has placed tens of thousands of troops at the border (I wonder how much that costs?), Mexico is turning back the caravans that Chuck's hero Soros was funding and Trump has finally enough court cases over LLR-lefty Chuck's marxist lawfare heros to accelerate both new wall construction and old wall replacement.
Once again, its the LLR-lefty Chuck Axiom: If its good for LLR-lefty Chuck, its bad for the United States and if its good for the United States its bad for LLR-lefty Chuck and his Team Dem pals.
Entrance, also the wall that keeps the forbidden zone from intruding in judge dredd.
"Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Interesting question:
Is it acceptable for the president of the U.S. to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival?
The public apparently believes that, no it is not acceptable to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival."
Who is Trump's political rival, since you are all-knowing? In what world is Biden Trump's political rival? Is is acceptable to ask a foreign government to investigate corruption? I bet a huge majority would say yes. Of course, you have to be interested in the truth to get to that result.
Wow. Where to start with this psychopath?
First off, it's hilarious that the guy who invents the fictional propaganda of "windmill cancer" opens his pie hole about what's environmentally friendly.
Second, it seems he's not against this idea (or climate change) when asking the Scottish government for approval to build a wall around his seaside golf course.
Not sure what kind of wetlands he's looking to protect on the Manhattan coastline, either.
As for his drones' seal barking:
Totally worth it if it keeps New Yorkers in...
Or a New Yorker like him out.
Nothing wrong with it as long as New York pays for it.
New York (and CA, and the blue states in general) pays for the vast majority of this country's expenses. It's the red states who are net takers, and net economic losers.
From a "3d chess" perspective, what is he trying to accomplish?
The complete destruction of America and the world.
All interviews now take place on the Mexican side of the border if I read that right.
A lot fewer are getting approval.
The models (i.e. hypotheses) are detached from reality. They require regular injections of brown matter to realize a consensus with reality. There is no day after forthcoming. They need to take rational and reasonable steps to mitigate the unlikely risk of a thousand year storm. That said, New York hopes to share responsibility for a [sociopolitical] climate of their own creation, and is looking for leverage and capital infusions in all the wrong places.
Is is acceptable to ask a foreign government to investigate corruption?
President Mouth never mentioned the word "corruption" once on that phone call. Mentioning a specific American that he wanted to go after politically (and not actually investigate, so long as Ukraine just made a propagandistic announcement pretending to do so? Tons of times.
I bet a huge majority would say yes.
Well, reading the above, we can see that what you'd like to do is to lie about the question.
Of course, you have to be interested in the truth to get to that result.
Right. President Windmill Cancer, with his thousands of lies told since 2016 (and before) has any interest in the truth. Still wondering what all those great wonderful fantastic things that his investigators were supposedly finding out about Obama's birth certificate in Hawaii.
You people are sick. Completely mental and bonkers.
All interviews now take place on the Mexican side of the border if I read that right.
A step toward emigration reform, no people... children left behind, while mitigating progress at both ends of the bridge and throughout.
I think the wall would be an environmental disaster.
And your knowledge of the environment amounts to what, exactly? Other than pretending that the earth magically and without explanation got to be 60 degrees warmer than space without a greenhouse effect, for instance.
Tell Trump to take down that wall around his Scottish golf course he petitioned for, if you believe so strongly in the newest lie he told today.
You people would believe the earth is flat, if Trump tweeted it. Of that I'm absolutely certain.
SO, to make a long answer short, no, Ritmo isn't interested in truth or facts. You are a despicable little excuse for a commentator.
Ritmo, ARM and Chuckles
It's no wonder I am losing interest in this site.
Chuckles strategy seems to be working.
SO, to make a long answer short, no, Ritmo isn't interested in truth or facts.
Right. Despite the fact that I just cited a bunch of them - including the FACT that Trump did NOT mention "corruption" ONCE on that phone call. AND that he was ok with just getting Ukraine to announce an investigation, and did not care to actually launch one. As there was nothing to investigate.
Inconvenient facts for a gullible loser and follower like you, but facts nonetheless. And as relevant a set of facts as any thinking person needs to hear.
You know Trump is a liar. Getting upset at people who point out why nothing you say can get anyone to believe him just shows everyone what a loser you are.
You are a despicable little excuse for a commentator.
LOL. This must be the reason for your impotent rage. You seem to think of pseudonymous "commentator" as a very privileged position in society.
The right wing is slowly finding out that their opinions are not only like assholes in that everyone has one. But that theirs stink worse than anyone else's.
I too miss the quality of the commenting from a few years ago.
About that anthropogenic global warming consensus.
Endless bitching about Obama has given way to unconvincing defenses of the indefensible. It too feel the quality of commenting has changed.
Ritmo, ARM and Chuckles
It's no wonder I am losing interest in this site.
Those that empower them are just as bad.
I too miss the quality of the commenting from a few years ago.
What you miss, Mark, is that the lies Republicans like you and your buddies on this board told a few years ago were easier to defend when it wasn't the reckless Piehole In Chief making them.
Trump makes it clear just how big a series of nonsense whoppers he (or any CIC) can get a right-winger to believe. Blame him. What you need is a subtler right-wing liar to give you your talking point marching orders. Trump will say anything. And so will you - assuming your leader commands it.
That solemn editorial about global warming looks pretty silly...
... with all those comments about Climategate.
God, everything is just going to hell. Ever since we had to start defending Trump. Who wants to be doing that? That asshole is the cause of the problem.
Well we can see that Full Moon is a full twelve years behind on the current state of the "greenhouse effect doesn't exist" conspiracy efforts. And he gets his information from blogs.
Hey Moon. Why not read NASA or NOAA's or the Pentagon blogs? It's not like they don't track this stuff better than pajama-wearing bloggers in their basements.
"You people would believe the earth is flat, if Trump tweeted it. Of that I'm absolutely certain.”
You mean that you would believe that the Earth is flat if Schiff said it szx, and further, if we tried to argue you out of it, you would call us Russian bots.
Lots of scientists were waiting to get their data from Full Moon but he was surrounded by the raging fires wreaking billions of dollars in property damages in California and they couldn't hear his second-hand blog linking. Really first-rate scientific research there, Moon! Linking blogs. Fuck the data and link the pundits' sites. Right.
You mean that you would believe that the Earth is flat if Schiff said it szx, and further, if we tried to argue you out of it, you would call us Russian bots.
A very sophisticated version of the "I know you are, but what am I" argument.
Piss on you, I'm working for Mel Brooks!!
Pretty sure Aunty Trump is drunk, and has been for a while. NTTIAWWT.
The flat-Earthers or [sociopolitical] consensus speak truth to facts backed by empathetic appeals. The so-called "Greemhouse Effect" or radiative recycling was characterized in isolation, liberally inferred in the wild, then estimated (a fraction of a fraction) and infilled with brown matter ("fudging") to maintain a semblance of consensus with real systems and processes. The actual greenhouse effect or controlled convection is real and progressive in high density population centers correlated with urban jungles.
"A very sophisticated version of the "I know you are, but what am I" argument.”
Well, to be fair, I was responding to your own bullshit that would have been laughed off of the playground.
"I thought the tweet was hilarious. But I'm completely perplexed about what Trump's strategy is here. From a "3d chess" perspective, what is he trying to accomplish?"
Accomplish? "This is my middle finger."
n.n. seems to be denying the greenhouse effect and implying that the entire earth as a global average is 60 degrees warmer than space because heat is retained better in cities with black roads and less green, reflective surfaces.
Interesting theory. I'm sure it explains how life on this planet before the large cities of the past hundred years developed ever came to exist.
You guys are geniuses. Absolute Einsteins. What other science do you want to deny today?
Accomplish? "This is my middle finger."
Trust-funders like Trump who were set up with 6-figure returns on their accounts from age three onward don't need to accomplish anything. They just need to whine loud enough to their parents.
Republicans have come to appreciate how much more apt they are to follow a leader who is an absolute baby. It helps them come to terms with their own difficulties adulting responsibly in a modern society.
It’s going to get harder defending Trump as the weeks and months go by. Of course there will always be the good Trumpists who despite sitting in bunkers with the bombs of evidence falling all around them, will still be loyal to their leader. After Trump is gone, will there be deTrumpification programs? Sort of like the denazification after WW2?
Tell us again what Mueller knows.
It’s going to get harder defending Trump as the weeks and months go by. Of course there will always be the good Trumpists who despite sitting in bunkers with the bombs of evidence falling all around them, will still be loyal to their leader. After Trump is gone, will there be deTrumpification programs? Sort of like the denazification after WW2?
The funny thing is, they never picked up on how he'll say one thing Monday and another thing entirely on Tuesday. The guy changes his story so much that it's not even a story. It's just a series of disjointed yelps on the Twitter machine. And they lap up every drop of it - even the windmill cancer thing.
“Tell us again what Mueller knows.”
Mueller knew what Trump tried to do. Only Trump got away with it the first time. He then tried to do it again, this time using Ukraine and got caught red handed. He was so emboldened by his first escape from justice he decided to do it again. The criminal always goes back to the scene of the crime, eh?
"The funny thing is, they never picked up on how he'll say one thing Monday and another thing entirely on Tuesday.”
Coming from you guys that is really funny. Tell us again about the pee pee tapes.
OK, the banned commenter is off in fantasy land.
“The funny thing is, they never picked up on how he'll say one thing Monday and another thing entirely on Tuesday. The guy changes his story so much that it's not even a story. It's just a series of disjointed yelps on the Twitter machine. And they lap up every drop of it - even the windmill cancer thing.”
Yes and they lick their chops every time.
As sea level has risen over the past two centuries, Manhattan Island has actually expanded. Dirt is cheaper than New York real estate.
Of course michael manns 'hiding the decline' as well as the medieval warming? The heat island problem among others renders these models moot
You could say Trump changes his story enough times to make your head spin, but that's the point. He's a lunatic and as Bernie said, a pathological liar. His head is the one that's spinning.
This does not bother Republicans. They actually see it as an asset and a quality worth admiring in a leader. He speaks untruth to the powerlessness that they are right to feel in our larger American society. They complain about the "culture" and think it is conspiring against their fact-free ways. But it is. And it always will. Culture does not thrive in a propaganda machine. North Korea does.
Also, conservatives are not able to do well in the humanities because they have no sense of humanity and do not identify with the human condition. Just like a Viennese painter more than a hundred years ago, the world of art rejects them.
But that painter became a demagogue and as we saw then and now, right-wingers love demagogues. And brutality - for its own sake. The more brutal the better.
Coming from you guys that is really funny. Tell us again about the pee pee tapes.
Speculation thrives in an environment as paranoid and opposed to transparency as Trump's is.
But it's ok. Enough of his inner circle has abandoned ship. It's impossible to work for him, unless you're a total slave to his ego. And they've talked. They've sung. He's a psychotic asshole to work for with no plan other than whatever gets him attention that day, he pits underlings against each other, and lets nothing rule other than the chaos of his own psychological problems du jour.
Just like der Fuehrer.
Moon gets his science from the web-based versions of old tabloids.
Political tabloids.
Microtargetted. To micro-minds.
Wind turbines killing more than just local birds, study finds
"It’s going to get harder defending Trump as the weeks and months go by."
It's exactly the opposite. Since he announced his candidacy, it has gotten easier and easier, while attacking him has grown to look more unhinged with every economic report, trade deal, investigation report and congressional hearing. Fake news and real news have both helped him, because most Americans have learned to tell the difference. Imagine if the media treated him like they treated Obama. He'd be more popular than Santa Clause.
Gore Says His Global Warming Predictions Have Come True ...
If you open Moon's links you have to use a hazmat suit. It's plastered with colors and flashing lights more flashy than a kid's cereal ad, the red light district, and Pinocchio's Pleasure Island combined. And it's registered under names like "real climate.org" or whatever.
Talk about a marketing gimmick. There are kids playing with GI Joes who know how to get better information from the web than that hapless contractor does.
$200B is merely opening bid.
After 2024 he may bid himself from FL.
Fires and droughts kill birds too, Moon. Way more of them. And if they're bad enough, entire species go extinct. Check out Australia for details.
How many more Australias and Californias are you looking to push for with your silly butt-licking of President Orange Head? In ten years people will read this and either laugh at you, or throw you into the ocean.
U.S. Unemployment Rate Lowest It's Been This Century | Fortune
Under Trump, we have Black employment at the highest ever ...
Blogger rehajm said...
I don’t understand this new category of human- political rival
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Origination can be dated to when Biden declared his candidate between the two phone calls to Ukraine.
Mueller was an old doddering stoddering figurehead. He wasn't even in control of the flunkies sent forth to manufacture a crime.
Embarrassing how much energy went into creating the farce-false Mueller god. Old jackass - playing false god for the liars and power-hacks who could not accept the 2016 election.
“It's exactly the opposite. Since he announced his candidacy, it has gotten easier and easier, while attacking him has grown to look more unhinged with every economic report, trade deal, investigation report and congressional hearing. Fake news and real news have both helped him, because most Americans have learned to tell the difference. Imagine if the media treated him like they treated Obama. He'd be more popular than Santa Clause.”
These are the Trumpist die hards. The blue wave happened in the suburbs with white educated women, who left Trump in droves. It’s going happen to an even greater degree in 2020. Trump isn’t becoming more popular among the voters who made Democrats win the House in 2018.
"It’s going to get harder defending Trump as the weeks and months go by."
It's exactly the opposite.
She's saying this to a guy whose only friends or family come in the form of money and who moved away from the fires of California to live in a desert instead. Yes, we know the people who have no other values or interests will love that kind of emptiness.
The way to make Bag o Cash happy would be lock him in a bank vault. It would be perfect. No cares for the planet, the outdoors, other people. Just him and some stashes and nothing else to look at. And nothing left to care about.
It would be a paradise for him. An insane asylum made of cash.
Under Trump, we have Black employment at the highest ever ...
You're forgetting slavery. What about slavery, Moon. Employed more blacks than any other labor system.
Those pesky blacks. The nerve they must have to not just vote for a guy who only cares how many labor units they make up.
Fire on the Mountain: Rethinking Forest Management in the ...
Fire on the Mountain: Rethinking Forest Management in the ...
Without even clicking, don't tell me.
Raking, right? Taking leaf rakes through the forests.
Just like in Norway.
Genius.
What has gotten worse under Trump?
What has gotten better?
When talking Presidency and reelection, what else is there to talk about? Even our output of global warming gases is lower, but I'm sure that even that is bad somehow.
Trump's defenders seem to be coming in pretty strong here tonight.
Come on, guys. Don't you have more emptiness and lack of values and ridicule of Trump's never-ending list of enemies to show contempt for? Is that all you're going to defend him with?
His stable geniosity seems to be sputtering out like air balloon farts.
Ritmo, you might want to delete that. Equating slavery to Black employment is no longer a plank in the Democrats' platform... finally. Then again, Trump's success makes you guys say all kinds of crazy shit.
Just as my mug of liberal tears goes dry, theres more. Drink up.
The germans have shut their reactors, yet their footprint is higher irony is crunchy.
“What has gotten worse under Trump?
What has gotten better?”
Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini got the trains to run on time, yet that didn’t mitigate their legacy.
When talking Presidency and reelection, what else is there to talk about?
Other than the number of times he gets laughed at around the world?
https://newsvideo.su/video/12072895
https://freespeech.org/stories/chinese-negotiator-literally-laughs-in-trumps-face/
His whole marketing pitch is a charade. Being taken seriously. Respected. Give me a break.
I need more data if you're trying to prove that his anti-renewable/forcing utilities to buy expensive coal policy is anything other than a wrong-way disaster.
Hes gone full redrum, hasnt he?
U.S. Homebuilding Hits 13-Year High, Showing Some Recovery In ...
Ritmo, you might want to delete that. Equating slavery to Black employment is no longer a plank in the Democrats' platform... finally. Then again, Trump's success makes you guys say all kinds of crazy shit.
It's what I said about you and a bank vault. You think every problem can be bought off.
THere's a word in English for that: Prostitution.
Yes, I realize you have no values other than what you can buy. But most Americans, most black Americans, and really - most humans - actually feel quite differently than that. Their lives just aren't as empty as yours.
I know you think your emptiness results from thinking that you're too awesome for anyone else to ever really understand. But that's because you don't hang around as many 3-year olds as you should. They're the ones who get you.
We passed through that stage before kindergarten though.
Lets go back to the day of 'funemployment' orwell was doing capoiera when that came from pelosis gullet.
'Some people want to see the earth burn' that was true of the 150+ arsonists arrested in australia
Blacks for Trump
interesting .
Blogger President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
Under Trump, we have Black employment at the highest ever ...
You're forgetting slavery. What about slavery, Moon. Employed more blacks than any other labor system.
Those pesky blacks. The nerve they must have to not just vote for a guy who only cares how many labor units they make up.
1/19/20, 7:55 PM
Kicking ass and... winning.
Theory: "Then again, Trump's success makes you guys say all kinds of crazy shit."
Evidence: I know you think your emptiness results from thinking that you're too awesome for anyone else to ever really understand. But that's because you don't hang around as many 3-year olds as you should. They're the ones who get you.
We passed through that stage before kindergarten though.
Theory: "Then again, Trump's success makes you guys say all kinds of crazy shit."
Evidence: You're forgetting slavery. What about slavery, Moon. Employed more blacks than any other labor system.
Those pesky blacks. The nerve they must have to not just vote for a guy who only cares how many labor units they make up.
evidence: Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini got the trains to run on time, yet that didn’t mitigate their legacy.
And the former, created the foundation for the space program
So in very short order here, Ritmo has recommended slavery and pedophilia. Keep going, what else you got? And while your thinking, remember Donald Trump, that big orange clown Hitler dude is your President and will be for the next 5 years. Now say something crazy.
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
Trump's defenders seem to be coming in pretty strong here tonight.
Come on, guys. Don't you have more emptiness and lack of values and ridicule of Trump's never-ending list of enemies to show contempt for? Is that all you're going to defend him with?
His stable geniosity seems to be sputtering out like air balloon farts.
I just wanted to thank you for what you do here. It may upset Ann because you drive people away.
But your idiotic screeds show everyone just how stupid you position is and just what a piece of shit you have to be to support democrats at this point.
Have fun defending the Democrat/GOPe money laundering operations.
Polar bear population decline a wake up call for climate ...
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“It may upset Ann because you drive people away.”
I wonder what “Ann” thinks about Achilles daily rants. Somehow I just don’t see her jumping aboard that train, nor do I see too many average Althouse commenters identifying with Achilles.
Hey, Stalin, that great champion of collectivism and centralized control made great advances in equality, at least among the ones left alive. And lets not forget his counterpart Mao, who probably did more than anyone for global warming by cutting down the population growth in dramatic fashion. The left gets things done when you given them a chance with power.
Inga said...
“What has gotten worse under Trump?
What has gotten better?”
Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini got the trains to run on time, yet that didn’t mitigate their legacy.
This is the penultimate Inga argument.
You made this argument earlier.
It was just as stupid then. But anyone following democrats right now has to be stupid enough to run with this.
Thank you for showing the world just how awful you are.
Theory: "Then again, Trump's success...
We already knew Fred Trump was a success. That's how he made the money that was paying off little Donny Boy by the time he was three years old and "earning" 6-figures a year.
Why do you think that made Donald a "success," though? Trust funded kids are success stories?
Whose snatch did you drop out of? Stormy Daniels'?
Jesus.
Theory: "Then again, Trump's success makes you guys say all kinds of crazy shit."
Evidence:President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
The Gendar Warz are just people taking the evolutionary strategy of what works for their own gender so far and individualistic that it becomes self-defeating. It's about everyone becoming their own royal monarch and then wondering why there's no one left whose sufficiently beneath them to kiss their butt.
But that's not really Auntie Althouse's problem. Auntie Althouse's problem is that she hates sex and thinks human body parts below the belt are creepy.
Sure, many women share this problem with her. But not all. It's becoming increasingly evident how self-defeating it is.
11/9/15, 7:57 PM
Inga said...
“It may upset Ann because you drive people away.”
I wonder what “Ann” thinks about Achilles daily rants. Somehow I just don’t see her jumping aboard that train, nor do I see too many average Althouse commenters identifying with Achilles.
I don't doubt Ann disagrees with things I post now and then.
There have been cross words.
But Ann has probably realized that if I win the upcoming conflict between my side and your side she will be left alone in a free prosperous country.
She also realizes if your side wins she will be hiding from roving gangs of brown shirts and digging for food in landfills.
Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini got the trains to run on time, yet that didn’t mitigate their legacy.
This is the penultimate Inga argument.
And it happens to be true.
Looks like contractor climate denier (from the state that's on fire) lost too many arguments tonight with his kiddy web site links and is now getting all radical feminist again.
Radical feminists like Full Moon naturally want sexual predators like Don Trump to preside over America. Try the math on that one out.
So in very short order here, Ritmo has recommended slavery and pedophilia. Keep going, what else you got? And while your thinking, remember Donald Trump, that big orange clown Hitler dude is your President and will be for the next 5 years. Now say something crazy.
That you like to suck your own dick?
Oh right. You do like to suck your own dick. You just say it belongs to someone else.
Yes Moon - you have no thoughts of your own and must quote others all night long. But the comments are already there; they can be read.
Can you figure out why black Americans will not vote for a Nazi like Trump, no matter how many of them are employed?
Of course not. You have no self-respect.
Moloch is proud
https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-woman-brags-about-aborting-twins-calls-them-goblins-this-is-the-dark-heart-of-the-pro-abortion-movement?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
Looks like contractor climate denier (from the state that's on fire) lost too many arguments tonight with his kiddy web site links and is now getting all radical feminist again.
I remember the one time you actually engaged on this subject. You are clearly too stupid to have an informed discussion.
But it is entertaining.
I particularly liked it when you claimed all evidence before 15000 years ago doesn't count because there were no humans.
Your explanations of why over the last 12000 years CO2 levels lag temperature levels by 400 years was illuminating too.
Entertain us some more.
Dance monkey.
Dance.
Someone here is saying that black people place little to no value on having a job. That person is also calling other people racist. Hilarious.
You could at least do the normal leftist thing of saying "Trump has nothing to do with black unemployment going down! It's all St. Obama's doing!"
A high-school dropout is now chiming in to rehash (and misremember) some argument about how climate change from millions of years ago means that temps as high as life from the paleozoic endured will be beneficial for humans or the planet they live on in 2020.
I can see that tonight's comment board is littered with windmill cancer survivors of all stripes.
NASA's waiting for your thesis on how the greenhouse effect doesn't exist, wife-beater guy.
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini got the trains to run on time, yet that didn’t mitigate their legacy.
This is the penultimate Inga argument.
And it happens to be true.
That is excellent.
Good job showing everyone the depths of your intelligence.
Someone here is saying that black people place little to no value on having a job.
Never said that. I just said they can't just be paid off like the rest of you poor white prostitutes can. They have values that go beyond Appalachia, or wherever the fuck you trailer park Trumpsters hail from.
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
NASA's waiting for your thesis on how the greenhouse effect doesn't exist, wife-beater guy.
Such a brilliant engagement.
Keep dancing monkey.
Get some symbols while you are at it.
Good job showing everyone the depths of your intelligence.
Good job never graduating. Being an online troll might gain you admission to the fraudulent operation known as Trump University, but did you even graduate high school?
Just because you couldn't get into college doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of other dumb (or as Trump calls them, "the poorly educated!") fools that you can't get to agree with you.
Just change that white wife beater to a brown shirt.
Get some symbols while you are at it.
Apparently the spelling bee at your community college was the one you lost when they asked you to spell cymbals.
What are your skills in life? Besides trolling?
Does it pay?
Is your wife still supporting you, Achilles?
“But Ann has probably realized that if I win the upcoming conflict between my side and your side she will be left alone in a free prosperous country.”
“Ann” voted for Clinton. Whose “side” is she on?
It's like catnip laced with crack for Ritmo: The Honorable Donald Trump - President of the United States of America, and your Commander in Chief, last year, next year, and he will still be your President when you reach puberty.
I dont quite get it either, its likevotong for evers.
Ot theres a series based of frank tallisfrwud like dr. Lieberman
Freud like protagonist
It's like catnip laced with crack for Ritmo: The Honorable Donald Trump - President of the United States of America, and your Commander in Chief, last year, next year, and he will still be your President when you reach puberty.
The possessive pronoun. Notice how dictators/tyrants (and their followers) get off on this idea that people of a country "belong" to them.
Kind of like how he "owns" the women he sexually assaults.
In any event, we know Trump will always and forever be your president, self-cock sucker. Even when you die alone.
No one will attend, but the casket will be filled with Trump memorabilia.
How touching.
Achilles - when that wife of yours is paying the internet service bills, does she know that it's going to support your basement-based online trolling? In support of a president who rapes women and gets lawyers who pal around with pedos like Jeff Epstein to defend him from impeachment?
What a stellar collection of character you're pushing for, Achilles.
Inga said...
“But Ann has probably realized that if I win the upcoming conflict between my side and your side she will be left alone in a free prosperous country.”
“Ann” voted for Clinton. Whose “side” is she on?
Ann has made it clear she is embarrassed by that mistake and the fact it associates her with people like you.
But in typical intellectual style Ann will never admit she made a mistake.
She will just write 500 words about how she wont made the same mistake again after you idiots impeached Trump for wanting to investigate Biden's admitted corruption.
But she did make it clear she would ban you if she could. She asked you to leave and like a typical piece of shit you refuse to accept her request.
Every day you are here you remind Ann what a mistake it would be to vote for another democrat.
That Trump - he really gets around. Quite a guy.
Ditto Dershowitz.
President Pedophile Promoter.
Elizabeth Warren: “How could the American people want someone who lies to them?”
The only people with more lack of self awareness than Warren are the dumbfucks that support her.
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
Achilles - when that wife of yours is paying the internet service bills, does she know that it's going to support your basement-based online trolling? In support of a president who rapes women and gets lawyers who pal around with pedos like Jeff Epstein to defend him from impeachment?
What a stellar collection of character you're pushing for, Achilles.
Never stop dancing.
You make new Trump supporters every time you post.
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
“But she did make it clear she would ban you if she could. She asked you to leave and like a typical piece of shit you refuse to accept her request.”
Not only did she not ban me in the manner in which she banned MG, she leaves up my comments and has twice recently interacted with me in the comments sections. So your notion that she would look upon someone like you more kindly than she would look upon me is as faulty and unrealistic as your daily proclamations that every Democrat or liberal is a “bad” person.
Considering the unprecedented strength of the economy, his success with trade, avoiding war, employing minorities, improving the income of poor Americans, and installing Federal judges and Supreme Court judges, any future Democrat President will compare unfavorably to the Trump/Hilter orange clown for the rest of you life. Man, that's gonna hurt.
You make new Trump supporters every time you post.
Not sure what you're implying here: That Trump people read?
Or that they have nothing better upon which to base their vote? Than what I say about the pedophile-protector?
Again, does that wife of yours know that the internet service bills she's paying are supporting your online trolling activities? Doesn't she expect better of you?
She must have low standards.
But then, you like Trump so you have low standards also.
Yep, let's see Trump win Oregon or wherever the fuck you post from.
Considering the unprecedented strength of the economy, his success with trade, avoiding war, employing minorities, improving the income of poor Americans, and installing Federal judges and Supreme Court judges,
Which of these things did HItler not also do, for the first six years of his reign?
The NYC Sea Wall offers many opportunities for graft, corruption, and bribery. Check the cost over-runs of Boston's Big Dig.
"In support of a president who rapes women and gets lawyers who pal around with pedos like Jeff Epstein to defend him from impeachment?"
3 Words: Slick Willie Clinton.
“You make new Trump supporters every time you post.”
I seriously doubt at this stage there will be many new Trump supporters. The die hard Trumpists are dug in, we ll know that. However the suburban voters who previously voted for Trump and then voted Democratic in 2018 are not going to be supporting Trump anymore than they did in 2018.
Or the california hyper train, which has wuadrupled cost estimates
bagoh20 said...
Considering the unprecedented strength of the economy
I want what he's smoking. Somehow it makes 2% look good.
President Toilet Paper Shoe's Perfect Phone Call said...
And your knowledge of the environment amounts to what, exactly?
We'll I do have an undergraduate degree in oceanography (interamerican university '74)
Also a master of science degree
What have you got?
John Henry
"In support of a president who rapes women and gets lawyers who pal around with pedos like Jeff Epstein to defend him from impeachment?"
3 Words: Slick Willie Clinton.
For whom you, no doubt, also voted.
What is it about you, Baggies, that makes you identify so heartily with pedophiles?
Oh yeah. They make you money and you have no values.
Quadrupled, but as new york goes carbon meutral well we see what thats done i. Paris santiago and most recently beirut.
We'll I do have an undergraduate degree in oceanography (interamerican university '74)
You said a seawall around Manhattan would be, "an environmental disaster."
Which parts of Manhattan's extensive concrete-based ecosystem would it destroy? The rats? The roaches?
The pigeons?
You're the one who made the claim, Einstein.
Who knew that Republicans considered rats and roaches the only species worth protecting.
“MORE THAN FOUR-FIFTHS OF 2018 VOTERS RESIDE IN COUNTIES WITH RISING DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT
The nationwide D-R margin favored Democrats in both the 2016 presidential election (as Hillary Clinton won the popular vote over Donald Trump) and the combined national 2018 House of Representatives vote, with the Democratic advantage increasing between the former and latter election from 2.1 to 8.6 percent.
INCREASED 2018 DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT OCCURRED IN SUBURBS, SMALL METROS, AND RURAL AREAS.
Democrats have long done well in large urban core counties, while Republicans tend to be more popular in suburbs, small metropolitan areas, and rural communities. Using an urban typology developed by the Brookings Metropolitan Policy Program [2], Figure 3 shows that this characterization is valid for the 2016 presidential election, but less so for 2018 House election.
COUNTIES WITH “REPUBLICAN” ATTRIBUTES SHOWED GREATEST 2018 DEMOCRATIC VOTING MARGIN GAINS.
How demographically distinct are the counties that registered the greatest increases in Democratic support (or reductions in Republican support)? To assess this, it is useful to look at attributes of residents in counties that showed a sharp rise in D-R margins.
2018 DEMOCRATIC MARGINS INCREASED IN STATES KEY TO THE 2020 ELECTION
The victorious party in the 2020 presidential election will rely on the Electoral College rather than the popular vote. A comparison of 2018 House voting results with those of the 2016 presidential election makes plain that the there is ample opportunity for a 2020 Democratic win. Map 3 depicts states where Democrats and Republicans won the cumulative state level House votes.”
Brookings
BREAKING! Trump Unveils New Plan to Help America's Children!
Its like you need raid in here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0
Inga,
Can you tell us 3 things about Mussolini's Fascism that you disagree with?
Most of the time here you (and Squeamish) sound like you are all in on Mussolini's Facism. There's not a dimes worth of difference between your views as posted here over the years and Mussolini's Ideas as he wrote about, implemented and tried to implement.
Tell me where you and he differ.
John Henry
Corporatism is state managememt of industrym short of nationalization, china is one of the largest examples today
John Henry has yet to describe the 3 ways in which he differs from a slime mold. Or mad cow disease.
So I'm taking that response as no degree at all, right Squeamish?
Not even hamburgerology?
Did you manage to stay in hs long enough to ge a social degree?
(social promotion from grade to grade with his age group until he "graduates")
John Henry
I'd forgotten how fun fool fishing could be.
John Henry
One way is that I can ALWAYS troll you, Squeamish.
Slime mold might only have a 75% success rate.
Did you flunk out of Hamburger U?
John Henry
Ye gods.
This is how they act when they finally realize they're going to lose big-time in November.
Wait until next January for the real tantrums to begin.
Sad!
Inga, we heard all that same shit in 2004. "Bush won't get any new voters, Kerry has nowhere to go but up, blah, blah, blah...". It was all bullshit. Do I even need to bring up the polls from 2016?
Trump was not on the ballot in 2018. He is a better campaigner than the Republicans who lost and his opponent will most likely be a worse campaigner than the Democrats who won.
Doesn't sound like you know much about mussolini or Italian Facism, Inga.
John Henry
“Can you tell us 3 things about Mussolini's Fascism that you disagree with?”
“Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.”
There’s four for you. The last one, bolded area, is what Trump got impeached for.
“Doesn't sound like you know much about mussolini or Italian Facism, Inga.”
Sounds like you’re the expert.
“Trump was not on the ballot in 2018.”
2018 was a referendum on Trump. He may has well have been on the ballet.
John, you must be a really lonely guy.
You said it would be an "environmental disaster." If you're the stud pro oceanographer, go ahead and explain how.
Or else explain how you're going to get NYC to be a part of a policy of constant flooding.
Have you drawn up your plans for moving Wall Street, yet?
“Doesn't sound like you know much about mussolini or Italian Facism, Inga.”
Sounds like you’re the expert.
The only things he's an expert on is remembering the day his massive belly overtook his downward view of his tiny penis and how many octaves above soprano his high-pitched voice is at.
He's a lonely guy living abroad who has no friends and just wants to say stupid shit online.
A 1938 type storm would be bad, would it be disastrous, considering how sandy was handled probably.
They must imagine some alt reality earth where this is happening, instead of what sandmann and kavanaugh were put through.
A lot of us thought 2010 was a referendum on Obama. Maybe it would have been if Romney had not faceplanted.
Decisive troll ruling issued.
Q.E.D
You really make it too easy to be fun, Squeamish.
And so to bed
John Henry
MAJMike said...
The NYC Sea Wall offers many opportunities for graft, corruption, and bribery. Check the cost over-runs of Boston's Big Dig.
*******
In the end, the graft-ridnen Big Dig made Boston traffic doable. Without it the city would have died. Tens of billions would have had to be spent to create rail alternatives that would have disrupted the lives of millions of people in the eastern part of the state.
OTOH a wall around NYC to prevent purported future storms....gimme a break. The Battery in NY has been recording tides and storms for more than 200 years, and nothing unusual is going on.
James Hanson predicted more than 25 years ago that the Cross-Bronx Expressway would be under water TODAY.
It's not.
Get a fucking GRIP.
Simple reality has become a nightmare to some folks.
When Trump wins all the states he won in 2016, adds a few new ones, and wins the popular vote on the strength of a glorious economy I will be excited to read the Leftist Collectivist rationalizing events. I expect some will go into self-imposes exile. But others will be here spreading conspiracy theories. Others will call voters (i.e. fellow countrymen) all sorts of negative things.
That was a wasted 10 minutes, reading this thread. Almost 190 comments, with probably 60% from two leftist commenters.
@9:30 comment. Extolling the yuuuge advantage Democrats have at all data points.
Like 58% of those showing up at Milwaukee Trump rally, waiting in line for hours, were NOT Republicans.
(per, Brad Parscale, President Trumps campaign manager. Parscale was Trumps digital manager in 2016(he got the analytics right in 2016, Nate Silver got it wrong))
ARM, when was the economy stronger? And what about an economy is important to you? Why do we want it strong?
In 1960 Buckminster Fuller proposed a two mile geodesic dome spanning Midtown Manhattan that would regulate weather and reduce air pollution. Perhaps it's time for an update- a larger dome to protect most of the City, and one that's strong enough to withstand the pressure of the sea?
Let 'em live underwater- make New York the world's first underwater city!
I actually tried to read this thread with the hopes of learning a bit more about what New York is proposing.
How silly of me.
Fucking leftist assholes.
@Yancey Ward: Yes, the new season of the Expanse is great. Why can't Avasarala run for president of the US? That's a female politician we could all support!
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