December 29, 2019

Ivanka laughed at Jane Fonda's plan to use sex as a weapon.

I'm reading "The Star Power of Jane Fonda’s Climate-Change Arrests" (The New Yorker):
After the 2016 election, Fonda was initially optimistic that Trump could be flattered into taking on the cause of battling climate change. She wanted to invite several “voluptuous” female activists (including the environmentally minded actress Pamela Anderson) to brief Trump on the dangers of relying on fossil fuels. Fonda spoke by phone to Jared Kushner, who told her to speak to Ivanka Trump, who laughed at the idea and said she’d follow up. Fonda never got to meet with Trump.
So it's okay to treat women as sex objects if it's a means to an end? This belongs in the same category as "I'd be happy to give him a blowjob just to thank him for keeping abortion legal" ("I" = Time correspondent Nina Burleigh, "him" = Bill Clinton).

77 comments:

rehajm said...

Climate not the issue. It was the latest creative diss of Trump to score points with the tribe.

rehajm said...

Like when Michael Moore tried to get college kids to vote democrat by giving them free underwear. Insulting, but garnered attention.

Darrell said...

It would have worked with Hillary.

rhhardin said...

Women are in fact sex objects. Just try to be something more to the man you want to marry.

Big Mike said...

No point commenting further. Darrell has said it all.

Anne in Rockwall, TX said...

In 1964 Bib Dylan writes, "And the times, they are a changin'."

In 1972 Barbarella put on a helmet and played with a big gun in Hanoi.

In 1989 Cher straddled a big gun on a warship.

In 2016 Ivanka laughs at using sex as a weapon.


Indeed.

rhhardin said...

Ivanka laughed because Trump has all the pussy he needs.

tim maguire said...
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tim maguire said...


This is an example of why I like to say that while I have no more use for conservatives than liberals, I do have more respect for them. Conservatives have principles, at least sometimes. There are issues where they won’t compromise and will act against their own personal interests due to their beliefs. At least sometimes.

The same can’t be said for liberals.

wendybar said...

I've been laughing at Jane for years. This fake outrage over the climate, as she flies back and forth from her California mansion?? Even if she is staying in DC. Does she walk to the protests or does a driver bring her?? Does she not use air conditioning in her homes?? She just wants publicity.

Curious George said...

We know Jane is “Closed Up Shop Down There” but Pamela Anderson? Lot of miles on her, and they aren't highway miles. They'd have to do better than that. Ugh.

Fernandinande said...

Like when Michael Moore tried to get college kids to vote democrat by giving them free underwear.

Did he say whose underwear they were getting? Because that matters quite a bit.

Heartless Aztec said...

Everything that can be has been weaponized - 24/7/365.

Peace ✌️

rwnutjob said...

She will always be a commie traitor bitch to me.
I wouldn't piss on her head if it was on fire.

AllenS said...

I used to have a bumper sticker on my farm truck that said:

Boycott Jane Fonda
American Traitor Bitch

I received a lot of thumbs up from drivers and passengers in passing vehicles.

peacelovewoodstock said...

My friend's little sister used to sneak up on him and stuff her dirty gym socks into his face then run away singing "don't use sox as a weapon!"


It was pretty funny at the time, maybe you had to be there.

gspencer said...

"She wanted to invite several 'voluptuous' female activists . . . to brief Trump on the dangers of relying on fossil fuels"

Having a pair of 34Bs dangling over your face is a proven method of persuasion.

Lucien said...

President Trump was never that much of a Republican, and he does like to make deals. I have wondered how much he might have been pulled to the left if Schumer and others had worked with him. Instead, the Resistance and Trump hatred started immediately upon his election, and Democrat leaders either could not stem the tide, or were too blind to see the opportunity they had. He was shoved into the arms of Mitch McConnell, and the military.

Nichevo said...

Lucien, yeah, this.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Sex.

The ultimate Quid pro Quo.

Makes you a Ho though.

JAORE said...

EVERYTHING the left decries is fair game when used to further their causes.

Fat shaming? Bad, unless....
Homophobic comment? Bad, unless...
Denial of free speech? Bad, unless...
Against diversity? Bad, unless....

There is no end.

Hey Skipper said...

DBQ FTW.

JAORE said...

"Having a pair of 34Bs dangling over your face is a proven method of persuasion."

34Bs are voluptuous?

Curious George said...

"34Bs are voluptuous?"

In Japan they are.

Paul Snively said...

Even granting that Trump is dramatically more driven by lust than the average guy—already a questionable assertion—where on God's green earth is the evidence that lust measurably affects his decision-making process? I'm not talking about affairs; that's a pretty common "powerful man being an idiot" staple. I'm talking about business and political decisions. Decisions outside the sphere of the personal.

To me, this sounds like just a particularly striking example of projection: someone else has a mental model of what someone's lust drives them to do, and tries to manipulate them on that basis. Laughable.

tcrosse said...

Instead of sex, Jane should use her great intellect.

David Begley said...

I’m laughing at Meet the Press right now.

David Begley said...

I turned MTP off after 4 minutes.

Craig Howard said...

EVERYTHING the left decries is fair game when used to further their causes.

Appearing in blackface? Bad, unless...

This is fun!

Wince said...

You come on with it, come on
You don't fight fair
That's okay, see if I care
Knock me down, it's all in vain
I get right back on my feet again

Hit me with your best shot
Why don't you hit me with your best shot
Hit me with your best shot
Fire away

DanTheMan said...

Wait... is Jane a Russian agent, just like Tulsi?
Of course "Ivan"ka is... it's right there in her name.

Of course, I might be a Russian agent, too. I haven't checked yet this morning.

David Begley said...

NYT top guy said he “defends the truth.”

NYT attacks people who tells lies but the NYT pushed the Steele Dossier.

Fernandinande said...

Appearing in blackface? Bad, unless...

Or appearing in clownface, bad unless you're a clown.

Meade said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...
Sex.

The ultimate Quid pro Quo.

Makes you a Ho though.
-------------------------

A Quid pro Quo Ho.

A cheap 2-bit Quid pro Quo Ho.

A cheap 2-bit Quid pro Quo Ho yo-yo.

David Begley said...

Chuck Todd, “Say what you see.” LOL.

Don’t look behind your own liberal bias.

This MTP is both laughable and fascinating.

David Begley said...

Now talking about the DNC server and Crowdstrike.

The FBI never seized the server! Look, Chuck.

David Begley said...

Who owns Crowdstrike? Never discussed.

Michael K said...

I have wondered how much he might have been pulled to the left if Schumer and others had worked with him.

Good point but it will never occur to the left.

jimbino said...

Someone please explain to Jane Fonda that "voluptuous" doesn't mean having or showing big boobs.

AllenS said...

In the case with Pammy, "voluptuous" means full of silicone.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

DBQ- ha! &
Ho Ho Ho!

RNB said...

"[Fonda] wanted to invite several 'voluptuous' female activists... to brief Trump on the dangers of relying on fossil fuels." Pretty obviously, Fonda's central insight into Trump's character was: "Show him a good pair of t1ts and he'll do anything you want." And that was about as acute and penetrating as most of her insights into other people's minds / world affairs / politics / etc.

William said...

Sex has influenced my decision making process on a number of occasions. To date, there has not been much cross over in my opinions regarding global warming and sex. Sex does influence my television viewing habits though. Perhaps they can have a global warming subtext in the next season of Witcher or GOT. The hot climate causes many of the women to go topless.

chickelit said...

Ho Ho Ho Chi Mihn, quid pro quo is gonna win.

Howard said...

Ivanka wants to be the only Bimbo shaking tits at her Daddy.

wendybar said...

Howard said...
Ivanka wants to be the only Bimbo shaking tits at her Daddy.
12/29/19, 10:19 AM


Bill Clinton wishes it were him....have you seen Chelsea???

Howard said...

Right Wendy. Maybe Bubba married Hildabeast to prevent potential for incest. Jeffrey Epstein too choked up to comment

Howard said...

I thought Pat Benadryl was Cookie Roberts with Jerry curls

Narayanan said...

While the base silicon comes from quartz, a plentiful resource, the hydrocarbons used to make silicone usually come from petroleum or natural gas.

jaydub said...

"Right Wendy. Maybe Bubba married Hildabeast to prevent potential for incest."

How could Bubba commit incest with Webb Hubble's child? I'd say she's free game for him, although well beyond her early teens, hence probably doesn't hold a lot of interest for him.

Bob Smith said...

Dear Heart
It’s always been OK for women to use sex, or the promise of same, to get stuff. Try being a young supervisor, recently promoted, in an enterprise where 20% of the workforce are women. Lotta extra wiggles in the walk and compliments you didn’t hear before when you can affect promotions and perks. When they find out you don’t fool around all that stops.

Sydney said...

Now I have a new found respect for Ivanka.

loudogblog said...

Pat Benatar was one of those artists who usually did not write their own songs. (Especially not their big hits) Most of her hits were written by professional songwriters. Sex as a Weapon was written by the songwriting team of Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg. They wrote songs that were, almost exclusively, performed by women. They wrote: Like a Virgin(Madonna), True Colors(Cindi Lauper),Eternal Flame(The Bangles), So Emotional(Whitney Houston), Alone(Heart), I Touch Myself(the Divinyls) and I'll Stand by You(The Pretenders).

Ann Althouse said...

"... the songwriting team of Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg. They wrote songs..."

Wow. Impressive stuff. Thanks for pointing that out.

cronus titan said...

Hmm. Struggling to find historical precedent of women weaponizing sex. I hear that the ones good at it never talk about it. Sort of like Fight Club.

Shouting Thomas said...

I am struggling to find any coherent meaning in the buzzword phrase “sex objects.”

I suspect there is none.

RK said...

Voluptuous grannies ... hubba hubba.

loudogblog said...

The 80s was my formative decade. I started college in 1979 and graduated in 1990. I was infused with 80s culture. I worked at the University AM radio station as a DJ in the early 80s. (The FM station only played classical music and had the big transmitter.) My roommate, The Sloth, was a music and film critic for the campus newspaper. I got copies of all the promotional records and I went to the movie screenings with my roommate. I lived in Los Angeles during the first part of the 80s and saw many local bands at clubs like the Whisky, The Roxy, The Rainbow, The Troubador, Garazzi's and the Starwood.

LA_Bob said...

So it's okay to treat women as sex objects if it's a means to an end?

Seems like shifting strategy from trying to change men to accepting men as they are. How convenient.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Struggling to find historical precedent of women weaponizing sex

Samson and Delilah
Lorena Bobbit

rcocean said...

Jane Fonda, when is she going to shut up or die? How can anyone so stupid be constantly quoted about politics and news? I doubt she - or pamela Anderson - know anything about climate science or fossil fuels or the impact on the world of NOT using fossil fuels. Fonda was born a very rich Bitch and spent her whole life as a celebrity getting paid huge sums of $$$ for "acting". Plus she's always been borderline mentally ill.

Lets just kill everyone over 80. Let them go off to lonely hilltop and die. It'll relieve the tribe of the burden of caring for them. And listening to them.

DRP said...

I wouldn't even be in the same room as Pam Anderson. No chance of catching some rare airborne venereal disease that she picked up from a rockstar. Nope. No GonoherposyphilAids for me. Not to mention the fake "MeToo" accusations.

rcocean said...

Jane Fonda is an anti-American Cunt that hates average Americans. That's why she's fighting "Climate Change" by getting rid of fossil Fuels. And all the working class jobs that go with it.

Iman said...

“Having a pair of 34Bs dangling over your face is a proven method of persuasion.“

34Bs? No.

39DDs? Come to poppa.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

... the songwriting team of Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg wrote songs that were, almost exclusively, performed by women.

was that sentence being mocked? Looks like it.
Doesnt seem like a sentence that warrants it.

Iman said...

Carry me back to the olden days of Miss Cynthia Myers...

Iman said...

I recorded “Beyond the Valley of the Dolls” and watched it the other night. A laughably bad movie, but dat Cynthia Myers was smokin’ HOT 🥵

So smokin’ hot she died of lung cancer a while back.

Iman said...

Beat Farmers for the win, Loudogblog!

Bill Peschel said...

"President Trump was never that much of a Republican, and he does like to make deals. I have wondered how much he might have been pulled to the left if Schumer and others had worked with him."

I doubt it. From what little I've seen of Trump, he glories in his name and his accomplishments. Going along with the open borders, open trade, global warming scam would have made him a footnote in American history.

Instead, he's blown up the cozy relationship between the Democrats and the RINOs, turned around the economy, revealed the rot inside the top echelons of the FBI and the CIA, will probably end the war in Afghanistan, and encouraged our energy independence (at least in the short term).

There are going to be far more books written about him than Obama, which did an eight-year victory lap while his minions set fire to the country.

Mary Beth said...

was that sentence being mocked? Looks like it.

It looked to me like the comment was sincere thanks for pointing out an interesting list of songs by those writers.

Seeing Red said...

This is why we need neck braces. The whiplash lolololol.

narciso said...

yowsa I think is the expression,


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n.n said...

The individual or process? Neither is a weapon per se, but vaginal intercourse is a first-order forcing of planned parenthood.

Sam L. said...

WOMEN!! Some just THROW themselves at men! Not me, though.

Anonymous said...

Lysistrata, anyone? Hardly a new idea. Aristophanes came up with it 2400+ years ago.

n.n said...

Fonda is proposing to violate the Treaty of Sexes that regulates WMD: women of mass dissatisfaction. Once you make that choice, you can't go back. Reconcile.

Anonymous said...

Back then I thought I 'served'. But that wasn't it. Jane Fonda aided and abetted the enemy during a time of war. Men were killed because of Jane Fonda. She wasn't hung, as she should have. That would have been justice. I cringe at the bints who say 'Thank you for your Service.' I didn't serve. I was spent.