Snowden has been charged with espionage since 2013, when he exposed top-secret surveillance documents in what may have been the biggest security breach in U.S. history. The former contractor sees himself as a whistleblower compelled to reveal sweeping surveillance programs hidden from the American people. But through two administrations, the government has viewed him as a traitor who escaped justice by fleeing to Russia....
“The contractual language of the Secrecy Agreements is unambiguous,” [the judge] wrote. “Snowden accepted employment and benefits conditioned upon prepublication review obligations.”
December 18, 2019
A federal judge has ruled that all the money Edward Snowden makes from his books and speeches must be handed over to the federal government.
WaPo reports.
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Some whistleblowers are more equal than others. Ironic that an NDA is what they enforce to prevent him from making any money.
Whistleblowers who violate the law are different from whistleblowers who follow the official procedure.
Whistleblowers with a higher moral goal are different from whistleblowers who aim to hurt their political enemies.
Whistleblowers who hurt national security are different from whistleblowers who disclose information that should be public.
The NSA ended its mass collection of data about Americans’ phone calls after Snowden’s leaks forced the government to confirm the program’s existence.
I was a bit more concerned with the insane amount of internet user data they collect with PRISM, which as far as I know is still very much ongoing.
Get a big advance if you are going to do this.
Blogger Ann Althouse said...
Whistleblowers who violate the law are different from whistleblowers who follow the official procedure.
Whistleblowers with a higher moral goal are different from whistleblowers who aim to hurt their political enemies.
Whistleblowers who hurt national security are different from whistleblowers who disclose information that should be public.
as defined by a corrupt cabal of seditious forsworn traitors and mutineers?
One of Mattis aides who wrote a book sued because he said the government was dragging its feet in the pre-publication review process.
13th amendment?
The government is like a casino.
The house always gets its money...
Whistleblowers who violate the law are different from whistleblowers who follow the official procedure.
You're only allowed to blow the whistle on the government on things that the government says you can blow the whistle on.
Of course, the whole point of whistleblowing is to expose government wrongdoing.
The Snowdon case will be one of the best cases for practicing Jury Nullification.
Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest balalaika playing just for the rogue infrustrcture analysts.
there is that, snowden also presents his story, in the most boring way, I expected that he might name the swiss banker, whose blackmail helped make him reconsider, but much like the identity of the whistleblower was not to be, some suspect he may have been in contact with the Russians in Geneva as far back as 1988, much like apparently phillip agee was in mexico city in and around 1968,
As someone who has worked in IT security & has dealt with NSA, I simply have no idea of how the Snowden leak was possible. I mean, how the hell did he get that many files outside of the building?
Even if he managed to sneak in a number of USB thumb drives up his ass or something, weren't the USB ports on the PCs on the secured systems disabled? Wasn't someone monitoring the file access logs that showed that all these files were getting accessed by Snowden's account?
None of this makes any sense. Either Snowden was a witting or unwitting plant, and the files he smuggled out carry multiple "poison pills" for foreign intelligence services, or the NSA is every bit as corrupted & incompetent as the FBI.
Ciamarella hardest hit.
the series person of interest, grappled with the need and potential for abuse, for these tools of surveillance in a rather complex way, at the opening of the season, there is a snowden type who is confessing to a reporter, she turns out to be deep state hitman, many of these so called whistleblower, seem to have followed the model of the protagonist in the rope dancer, whose alienation drove him to work first with Czech and then Soviet intelligence,
Edward Epstein chronicled the various obstacles that snowden must have faced, a few years later you have miller, who exfiltered a considerable amount of data, then you have bohemian fmr air force officer, who leaked to the intercept,
I'm glad Snowden did it, but he should have stayed in the U.S. and taken his medicine like a man. He would have been a sympathetic figure had he done so, and could even have been justifiably regarded as a true patriot. By fleeing to Russia, however, he made himself into a turncoat, and lost my sympathy.
In other words: a plague on all their houses.
I agree with Roughcoat
Am I wrong, or was the Snowden secret file dump just a big nothing burger?
Although, I feel certain that some folks were exposed, and dispatched, it certainly didn't overthrow any governments.
We'll see how they'll collect in Russia
snowden revealed technical methods of surveillance, manning actually revealed personnel who were cooperating with coalition troops, like the list in skyfall, or atomic blonde,
Blogger YoungHegelian said...
... weren't the USB ports on the PCs on the secured systems disabled? Wasn't someone monitoring the file access logs that showed that all these files were getting accessed by Snowden's account? ...
12/18/19, 2:41 PM
"The Cuckoo's Egg" by Edward Stoll pretty much lays out the case that our "intelligence community" is a bad joke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg
the puzzle palace seems to have not learned anything from boyce, who was a trw contractor same with ames, and hanson,
I've never quite known how I feel about Snowden, or rather how I should feel, since I don't feel rage towards him nor does he inspire sympathy. I feel way more strongly sympathetic towards Assange, although he has an annoying name.
well I found Assange revolting at the time, when he was enabling the Pulitzers of loads of times post guardian, et al reporters, the ones who denounce him now when he aired one particular politician (and their press enablers) dirty laundry,
We are very quickly becoming venezuela. Appeal the hell out of this patriot snowden.
is eddie coming home in 2020>
...what will he face?
he also resembles Tomlinson, the ex mi6 and sas operative, who burned 150 of his colleagues, including steele and burrows, his partner at orbis, eventually he reconciled with the british government, because they are idiots,
Assange, although he has an annoying name.
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Assange ==>> ass angst.==>> Butt hurt
I decoded your message : what do I win?
When are the Bidens and the Clinton required to give back their international ill gotten gains?
Well, a judge made a ruling.
It's now the law of the land.
If the media and government tell me someone is a traitor (Snowden-Assange) I don't believe them.
When they tell me someone is a patriot (Bradley Manning) I don't believe them.
I've been paying attention to the last 4 years, and am paying attention tonight.
Ha, ass angst. Now do Julian.
The persecution of Assange and the fact that he proved true to his principles of across the board, piss them all off, publish it all and let God sort it out makes him sympathetic. Also the fact that he burned so many bridges, he wound up in the Ecuadorian embassy makes clear that, wittingly and not, he was no agent of an anti-American or anti-western force. Snowden...I don’t know. YH raises a good point re how the hell his breach was possible without some facilitation on the inside. He went to work for the IC, while Assange was truly independent. Assange is a pain in the ass, Snowden seems like a tool, whether writing or not, of the very forces he exposed.
"The NSA ended its mass collection of data about Americans’ phone calls after Snowden’s leaks forced the government to confirm the program’s existence."
I don't believe this for a second.
"...or the NSA is every bit as corrupted & incompetent as the FBI."
Gee! Do you think?
"By fleeing to Russia, however, he made himself into a turncoat, and lost my sympathy."
He didn't flee to Russia. He was trying to get to Ecuador, I believe. But he had a transfer flight in Russia, and while on the ground, the USA voided his passport, thereby terminating his ability to leave the country. Personally, I have no problem with whistleblowers who take steps to mitigate the ruinous consequences to them of their brave truth-telling. More power to him!
"Son of Sam Law" I believe.
nothing new under the sun,
https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/the-first-nsa-defection-william-h-martin-and-bernon-f-mitchell-june-25-1960/
Whistleblowers like Snowden jeopardize national security because the Deep administrative state determines what is and is not "national security".
Has anyone ever noticed that Robert Cook the world's biggest communist pinko red diaper doper baby always opposes the Deep state? How can that be?
"As someone who has worked in IT security & has dealt with NSA, I simply have no idea of how the Snowden leak was possible. I mean, how the hell did he get that many files outside of the building?"
Maybe the quality of the security was along these lines.
seems like, when you consider boyce, hanson, ames, et al,
even farther back,
https://spartacus-educational.com/Venona.htm
OT meanwhile;
Pro-Trump Women Verbally Harassed, Navy SEAL Assaulted by Unhinged Dems in Swanky DC Hotel
He didn't flee to Russia.
Yes, he did. Probably with assistance -- from the least likely people. The notion that he ended up in Russia because that's where he was supposedly going to transfer to a flight to Ecuador is just ... too "... convenient," as they say. The Russians could have kicked that can down the road had they been so minded. But they weren't (obviously), and they didn't.
Michael K said...
"Son of Sam Law" I believe.
No; nothing at all like that.
This was straight contract law. Enforced by a U.S. District Court Judge in the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division. And explicitly stated by Judge O'Grady was that the basis for his decision was the NSA Security Agreements that Snowden lawfully executed with his employer.
A contractual term that is generally common to almost all NSA, CIA and FBI employees.
btw; beautiful response by Althouse at the 2:01 mark.
Here's the Memorandum Opinion and Order; it's only 14 pages and it is admirable in its clarity and directness. Some of you ought to read it.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/judge-rules-snowden-cannot-profit-book
The bigger the failure of the grifters calling themselves security or intelligence, the more money they get.
Expect more, bigger failures to come.
Joe Rogan has a fascinating 3hr podcast with Snowden.
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Sweet jesus, FakeCon LLR-lefty Chuck is linking to far far far lunatic-left Lawfare AGAIN!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL
Hey lefty Chuck, remember, you're supposed to be pretending to be an actual conservative!
I mean, I know you blew your cover long before you were banned for dishonest posting, but come on.
Snowden is in some ways a sympathetic figure,but the hard fact remains that he sought and received sanctuary in Russia. There are many, many red flags, so to speak, about his life and career.....Assange lost his hero status among the left when he distributed material harmful to Hillary and he did this without gaining any corresponding hero points among the right.....Chelsea Manning is a flake and doesn't represent any principle or interest beyond his own flakiness.....Re whistleblowers: Why was there no whistleblower among the various agents who had knowledge of the fraudulent FISA claims? Why no whistleblower, so to speak, among the various women who have been sexually harassed or worse by Clinton, JFK, Ted Kennedy et al.
"Whistleblowers who hurt national security are different from whistleblowers who disclose information that should be public."
Why is that so? They can often be both. It's usually a trade off. There can be secrets that should be public, but also get brave dedicated people killed if they are. The real world is not a fair, moral, or legal place where everyone gets what they want just becuase it would be nice.
After seeing the behavior of people like Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and the other creeps at the top of our law enforcement and intelligence organizations, I no longer take the side of government over anyone else. In fact, now I trust them less than the average name in the phone book, or on a cell block in the state pen.
It would be hilarious if university professors, elected officials, and federal judges had to return the money they made from speeches and books to the institutions they're supposed to be working for "full time."
"The NSA says it ended its mass collection of data about Americans’ phone calls after Snowden’s leaks forced the government to confirm the program’s existence."
FIFY
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