November 3, 2019

I wouldn't call that "massively booed"... but then to tell you the truth, I don't know what UFC even is.

Seems like a big deal. United... Fight Club? Whatever. Here's your President getting greeted at Madison Square Garden... you judge the reaction:



I hear lots of loud crowd noise, then a guy clearly booing. A guy who happens to be near the camera. And who would expect that a group that big — a group that didn't assemble for the purpose of rallying for Trump — not to include some Trump antagonists? What's nice is that Trump is willing to go to such a place and be seen. He's not cocooning with supporters.

And whatever UFC is — I'll look it up in a sec — isn't it one of those things where villains are popular and booing is part of the fun?

The Hill conveys the news/fake news with "Trump gets deluge of boos upon entering MSG prior to UFC 244"

Okay, I looked it up. UFC is Ultimate Fighting Championship...
... an American mixed martial arts promotion company based in Las Vegas, Nevada, that is owned and operated by parent company William Morris Endeavor. It is the largest MMA promotion company in the world and features the highest-level fighters on the roster....

With larger live gates at casino venues like the Trump Taj Mahal and the MGM Grand Garden Arena, the UFC secured its first television deal with Fox Sports Net....
William Morris Endeavor — I assume Trump has some connections to that talent agency. Let's see:
On September 14, 2015, WME acquired from Donald Trump the Miss Universe Organization, which produces the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA beauty pageants and related content....
These are businesses. Who knows how much Trump actually likes mixed martial arts fighting?! Anyway, I'm not surprise the crowd is loud and rowdy and a good portion of them get off on booing the President, and I'll bet that lots of mixed martial arts fans love Trump.

70 comments:

BUMBLE BEE said...

Proximity to the microphone... The loudest sound(s) at the mic wins. Heard some "OOOOO", not massively booed.

tim maguire said...

UFC seems like the kind of entertainment that would attract Trump fans. But anytime you get 20,000 people together, you’ll find all sorts. I guarantee you, there are a few hundred people in that room who will boo the UFC.

Mr Wibble said...

Well, since I don't watch MMA I can't really say that they've lost my viewership.

I've tried to like MMA in the past, but it's always struck me as too white-trash and vulgar.

Mr Wibble said...

How can a company own both UFC and Miss America and not see the cross-over opportunities?

"Next comes the eveningwear portion. Remember, no strikes to the back of the head or below the belt. No biting or gouging."

Jeff Brokaw said...

Not to brag but I also came to all those same conclusions using a simple one-stage filter: the media is always lying about Trump.

Saves time. Nearly 100% accurate. It’s pretty useful.

Actively gets in the way of providing blogging material about our lousy media, though. For those who might care about such things.

Kevin said...

We must maintain the meme that Trump is unpopular and no one if consequence likes him.

Likewise that once the “evidence” is out a lot of Republican Senators will vote to remove him.

And every Democrat running would beat him in an election.

The mental health of millions of Americans depends on maintaining these “truths”.

Not to mention, the entire fundraising apparatus of the Democrat Party.

Skylark said...

Almost every time a politician appears at a sporting event, he or she gets booed by somebody. The only exception I can remember was George W Bush at Yankee Stadium.

It would be interesting to see Liz Warren appear at a Cowboy’s game.

Mary Beth (the commenter) said...

There's a lot of whistling too, the kind that's done as a sort of a cheer.

The problem the media will have if they are lying is that there are probably other recordings of the event and, like so many of their previous lies, a video will be released to show how fake the news was.

anti-de Sitter space said...

Compare the DJT greeting to when The Rock walked in, hence massive booing.

PluralThumb said...

This event seems to coincide with the publication of an arrest of a teen for dodging a $2.75 one way MTA fare.
Granted, the NYPD has not forgiven a late September shooting of Brian Mulkeen, an NYPD officer who ellegitaly was shot from his own gun. Eric Garner is also a haunted issue to say least in English, because I am not a professional in any way nor part of either family biasly. I am white, but I dismiss such justification because life in any way is completely outside labels. But the animosity, hate, resentment, vengeance, and the sacrifice of sheep is inevitable. Pardon my crude gothic type humour to cheer myself from morbid dismay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/28/nypd-video-guns-pointed-subway-train-unarmed-fare-hopper/

What really bothers me is the unfair trade value for that specific day of a $2.75 fare for a dozen or so police that in NY roughly start below the 3rd tax bracket as rookies. Respectfully with college that may be of debt, because an Associates Degree is mandatory post the Bloomberg Administration. Officers with higher rank and pay should patience themselves from tackle apprehensions. That is better a request for the local administration's in the tri-state area than a debate within a blog.

All the best,
The non-reporter, reporter.
Ketchup iS a vegetable a.k.a. Plurals Thumb

Craig said...

Much of the fighting in MMA occurs on the floor of the ring with one fighter flat on his back with his legs raised and wrapped around the waist of the fighter on top who attempts to pummel the face of the fighter below. It tends to be a bit homoerotic, resembling or suggesting sex in the missionary position

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Trump's immediate family really are a bit dim. Marrying models has its obvious advantages but enhancing the average IQ of the next generation is not one of them.

Bobb said...

The reporters have problems hearing anything other than the boos emanating from the surrounding media.

Mary Beth (the commenter) said...

Another video, away from that one booing guy - https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1190811924214304768

gilbar said...

you Know who DOES get Boo'd, EVERY TIME?
That Cubs pitcher, Yu Darvish; Chicagoans must be SUPER RACISTS, 'cause EVERY TIME
Darvish pitches, the Entire Stadium erupts in BOO's

RACISM, that must be it.
Chicagoans HATE Yu Darvish, just like America hates President Trump

Big Mike said...

Almost every time a politician appears at a sporting event, he or she gets booed by somebody.

Heck, at a Philadelphia Eagles game the crowd booed Santa Claus.

AllenS said...

Thank you, Mary Beth.

John henry said...

If you hadn't told me about the booing I might not have even noticed it.

John Henry

Amadeus 48 said...

Well, let’s look at WME, the company that owns UFC and Miss Universe. Who are the co-CEOs and founders? Ari Emanuel (Rahm’s brother) and Patrick Whitesell, the guy who was cuckolded by Jeff Bezos, who hooked up with Whitesell’s slutty wife.

Yeah, it’s just business, but these characters are in deep with President Trump. Let’s see how the culture treats the Donald in the run- up to the 2020 election. I expect support from some surprising directions, particularly if the Dems go with Elizabeth (I have a plan) Warren.

Gunner said...

The crazy fake news media could find one guy booing him at a Nascar race in a porta potty and say Trump was "massively" booed.

stevew said...

Having watched the video I say to The Hill: you use that word, deluge, but I think you do not know what it means.

Darrell said...

Beclowned Communist ARM has proof that Thomas Jefferson raped someone.

Or was it any other male in Jefferson's bloodline?

BC ARM will crap out an answer. Science is hard. "Science" is easy.

Browndog said...

I think we're supposed to surmise that everyone, including Trump's home town, wants him impeached.

Amadeus 48 said...

ARM—you are losing it. There was nothing dim about Ivanka’s tweet. The moron that replied apparently impresses you. That’s sad.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Hey Arm... How about repeating that in Italian... or German ... Dim? You breathe it.

Curious George said...

"gilbar said...
you Know who DOES get Boo'd, EVERY TIME?
That Cubs pitcher, Yu Darvish; Chicagoans must be SUPER RACISTS, 'cause EVERY TIME
Darvish pitches, the Entire Stadium erupts in BOO's"

They're not saying Boooooo, they're saying Yuuuuuuuu!

BUMBLE BEE said...

Mary Beth... I heard lotsa "U.S.A" in there. Saw hands clapping.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

So we are saying that the context for Jefferson's quote is unimportant? That is very ahistorical of us. Any sexual relationship between Hemings and Jefferson can reasonably be classified as rape, given that she was a slave. Both contempory accounts and recent DNA evidence support the idea that Jefferson raped Hemings. The consensus is that he was the father of Hemings' children.

At the very least, it was bone-headed of Ivanka to use this quote, given the context.

Amadeus 48 said...

Thanks, Mary Beth.
All the booing was in the cheap seats near the rafters. The people at ringside were cheering and trying to get pictures.

jim said...

Sure sounds like a lot of booing to me, mixed with a loud obnoxious crowd.

Who says NYC does not have it's share of yahoos? They can't ALL have come in from Long Island.

traditionalguy said...

The female species cannot comprehend UFC because the men in it are not being nice to each other. And it is not all that interesting unless your testosterone level is high and you want to remember your one on one matches with seriously strong and quick trained men. It is exactly not WWF shows. Think of UFC as Dancing With the Stars where the first move is to throw the other man on the ground and the next, and only other, move is to jump on top and hold him down while you pound him senseless with your fists and elbows. None of the hyped fancy fighting styles from other cultures are ever used.

The first time that I remember seeing UFC ( The Octagon) was on pay per view TV at my 82nd Airborne son's home. We were into it and enjoyed it very much, but none of the women could see what we liked about it.

Donald Trump was an amateur wrestler in his Military school youth.

PluralThumb said...

_Update to my previous comment in this thread_

Also, in consideration to the good right wind church goers on a Sunday, my apologies if needed.

November 1st, a massive protest in the Brooklyn area of New York City. That somewhat satisfies my confusion by the act of evading train fare by multiple residents. (Hopefully some tourists benefited from the event) although I am in no way condoning mass rally chaos, but financially the less than a weeks gap of injustice has been exposed, if not rectified. That was my selfish want & a McDonalds coffee. Good day !

Iman said...

I watched the entire evening of televised fights, as we’re visiting our son and DIL, grandchildren (including a new addition!) and son’s a fan Booing of Trump appeared to be minimal... so minimal that we didn’t even notice it.

As for UFC... watching these guys beat and kick the daylights out of each other was entertaining. My son noted that it seemed like nearly every one of the fighters with extremely bad haircuts got knocked out.

tcrosse said...

Half-time at University of Wisconsin football games there used to be some sort of yearly ceremony involving Oscar Rennebohm, former Governor, UW Regent, and drug-store magnate. The tradition was massively to boo him.

PluralThumb said...

Oops.

Condoning = Promoting

Back to school for me,
tomorrow.

Ralph L said...

Lots of phone salutes. Modern Mussolini.

Phil 314 said...

“It would be interesting to see Liz Warren appear at a Cowboy’s game.”

I bet she would get boo’d at a Patriots game.

Narayanan said...

Mr Wibble said...
How can a company own both UFC and Miss America and not see the cross-over opportunities?

"Next comes the eveningwear portion. Remember, no strikes to the back of the head or below the belt. No biting or gouging."
_______$$$
With Swimsuit under Evening Gown Changeover can be via onstage bout to Wardrobe Malfunction

robother said...

Vince Mcmahon's fans have long memories.

Drago said...

ARM: "Both contempory accounts and recent DNA evidence support the idea that Jefferson raped Hemings. The consensus is that he was the father of Hemings' children."

As always, wrong.

Thomas Jefferson shares a specific DNA marker with 2 other male members of his family who also had opportunity and position to possibly be the father of Hemings children.

Thats what we know. Nothing more.

The Hemings are certainly part of the Jefferson family and I dont blame them for wanting Thomas Jefferson as that relative.

Its always a good call to assume the opposite of whatever ARM is saying is the truth. You will be on safe factual and logical grounds by doing so.

Narayanan said...

Has Trump been to Kennedy Center in near DC?

How would that be reported?

Too hoity-toity for him or above his IQ / pay grade?!

stevew said...

@gilbar - SUPER RACIST, a deluge of it even!

Tuuka Rask of the Boston Bruins is also heavily booed when making quality saves. And, back in the day, Kevin Youkilis was routinely booed when making a great play in the field or at the plate. Tuuka is Finnish, and Youkilis is descended from Romanian Jews. But, then, Boston has long been acknowledged as a hyper racist town.

Wince said...

Joe Rogan does the color commentary for UFC pay-per-view events.

Narayanan said...

They're not saying Boooooo, they're saying Yuuuuuuuu!
___''_''
When you split consonant from vowel and put it on sound bite --- what do you get?

Charlottesville provided similar opportunity : you / Jew

Bob Boyd said...

Most of us will never be important enough to be massively boo'ed.
I was passively moo'ed at a 4H event one time, but that's as close as I've come.

buwaya said...

This fighting style/styles used in the UFC, generally referred to as mixed martial arts, MMA, seems to be the most practical general approach to unarmed fighting actually used in sporting competition.

So the sport itself may have a proletarian air, but it has nevertheless that critical element of reality.

Most other martial sports are to a great degree stylized and, in themselves, impractical when it comes to an actual fight. There are any number of amusing Youtube videos of MMA vs other styles such as Taekwondo.

Michael K said...

Historian ARM is invading the space of Freder whom is in charge of making ridiculous statements about stuff he doesn't know anything about.

I think there is some good evidence that Jefferson's relative is a more likely candidate but the accusation was used by a political rival, sort of like Stormy.

buwaya said...

MMA has been gaining considerable cachet in hipster circles.
It is a thing.

Professional lady said...

I wonder why Sean Spicer hasn't been eliminated from DWTS yet. He tries hard, but he's really not a very good dancer. And yet he hasn't been eliminated. I wonder why.

AllenS said...

What's up with the Finish always using all of those vowels?

rcocean said...

First rule: Everyone talks about Fight club.

Bruce Hayden said...

“The female species cannot comprehend UFC because the men in it are not being nice to each other. And it is not all that interesting unless your testosterone level is high and you want to remember your one on one matches with seriously strong and quick trained men. It is exactly not WWF shows. Think of UFC as Dancing With the Stars where the first move is to throw the other man on the ground and the next, and only other, move is to jump on top and hold him down while you pound him senseless with your fists and elbows. None of the hyped fancy fighting styles from other cultures are ever used.”

Most of a decade ago, in my last job, I represented UFC as their patent attorney. Weird claim to fame, I know. Because we were one of the largest firms in NV at the time, we, of course, had an Entertainment Section, and that is where the UFC fit. A lot of crossover with the IP Section where I fit. One very ambitious younger lawyerette got herself assigned to that client (in under 20 years, the UFC went from a value of $2 million to over $4 billion). The lawyers working the account got, of course, good seats whenever they fought in LAS. She got talked into joining them one time at a match, and turned into a fanatic. For her, ritualized fighting on TV had no allure. But live and close, the raw testosterone was apparently overwhelming. I was never close enough to the action with this client to get this spiff, but wondered if I had, whether I would have also been turned into a fan. According to her, there is something very atavistic about live MMA fights.

BTW, many think that these fights are staged. I don’t think so, or not markedly. Televised MMA matches appear much more violent that the professional wrestling that Trump was involved in. I found this in the public records of the NV fight commission. At least in NV, the fighters are all checked out by a Doctor after every public fight. And inevitably one, and sometimes both, of the fighters in a UFC bout are put on medical suspension, where they aren’t allowed to fight in NV, for time periods ranging from a couple months to most of a year.

John henry said...

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Any sexual relationship between Hemings and Jefferson can reasonably be classified as rape, given that she was a slave.

Any sexual encounter between Monica lewinski and Bill Clinton could be classified as rape given his power over her as a subordinate.

Also he stuck his dick down her throat and ruined a perfectly good dress based on lying to her. That he loved her and led her to believe he would leave Hillary for her

No evidence she thought it was rape at the time though 25 years later the penny does seem to be dropping.

No evidence the jefferson's relation ship with hemings was not consensual. No evidence that it was either.

John Henry

PoNyman said...

I don't watch MMA stuff myself, too brutal. But Joe Rogan is an announcer for the UFC and a good percentage of his podcasts are about MMA topics. I skip them for the more sciency people he has on.

Patrick Wahl said...

I believe you had the box set of all the "Friends" shows. Just remember what Jon Favreau did and you'll have the idea. I don't know if it was specifically UFC, but that's what he did when he got beat up in the ring.

Chuck said...

Althouse chose one video in one Twitter account. Not unreasonably, some of her commenters question whether a single cellphone video could accurately capture the mood and actions of an entire Madison Square Garden crowd. And the simple fact is that one can look around on Twitter and elsewhere on the ‘net and find 20 or 30 entirely similar cellphone videos from different locations in Madison Square Garden. The video that Althouse put in her blog post is not an outlier. It is perfectly representative.

And wouldn’t someone have expected a MMA crowd — lots of white men with less than college educations from New York’s outer boroughs — to be prime Trump supporters? I share the opinion of many that the Trump campaign staff probably expected that an MMA crowd would have provided Trump with massive cheers to erase the memories of Trump’s being booed at the World Series. And it didn’t turn out as planned.

Other than a Trump rally, where could Trump appear and not be aggressively booed by about 45% of the crowd?

Skylark said...

You seem a little desperate for validation there, Chuck.

Jon Ericson said...

Chuck signed up for a new account.
Welcome back Chuck.

Drago said...

You can feel the flop sweat pouring off racist posting LLR's everywhere as their beloved far left dem candidates collapse.

Who can forget #StrongCNNDefender and attacker of children LLR Chuck passionately and vehemently extoling the intellectual virtues of World Class Groper and All-round mental midget Joey Biden?

LOL

Of course, the events of the last several months has emphatically and irrefutably put the lie to that particular LLR Chuck pro-dem gambit.

In precisely the same way reality puts the lie to every far left pro-dem spin lie LLR Chuck vomits up.

"Unexpectedly"

Drago said...

This thread is certainly blessed to have moron democrat hot takes delivered by 2 of the biggest lefty dopes around, LLR Chuck AND ARM, for everyone's reading pleasure.

Drago said...

Speaking of going Full LLR Chuck Idiot Lefty Mode, check out LLR Chuck "fav" (assuming its no longer Beto or Booker) Li'l Tomahawk's Q&A:

Q: Where do those who work in health insurance go when private insurance is eliminated?

Sen. Warren: "No one gets left behind. Some of the people currently working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. In life insurance, in auto insurance, in car insurance."

LOLOLOL

Things are NOT looking good for the dems/left/LLR-left....

....at all!

Birkel said...

That's what you have to offer after a time away?
At least you're not hyperventilating.
But checking 20-30 videos online seems an odd hobby.

narciso said...

how's the snow up there chuck,


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/schiffs_impeachment_train_to_nowhere.html

Skylark said...

I don’t know Chuck, it’s possible that the videos you are seeing are cherry picked.

https://twitter.com/TaraLaRosa/status/1190837453696856065

rcocean said...

I listen the the clip and did not hear "massive booing". I heard cheers/whistling, a few boos, and lots, and lots of background noise.

The types that go to the UFC aren't interested in politics, they want to see some action.

Nichevo said...

Chuck said...
Althouse

Told you to leave the blog and don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. WTF are you doing here? Did one of your posts slip through moderation? In which case, what kind of a psycho are you to be bombarding the blog with posts in the hopes that one will get through?


Fen, come back, all is forgiven!

narciso said...

speaking of Favreau, he wrote produced and starred in a little film, called chef in 2014, which had Robert downey jr, and scarlet johannson in smaller roles, he's an la chef, who thanks to an internet kerfluffle, ends up being fired by the restaurant, ends up with a food truck in Miami, that unexpectedly becomes a viral hit, thanks to his estranged sons efforts,

narciso said...

I didn't hear about sally hemmings, until was a passing reference in head of the class in the 80s, the much vaunted dna results suggested a Jefferson male, not necessarily Thomas, but it was good enough to rationalize bill Clinton,

narciso said...

how about that bruce hayden, small world eh, when I tought school, there was a math teacher of all things who was into ultimate fighting, he didn't make it very far, but goes to show you it's not an exclusively blue color enterprise,

Michael K said...

Other than a Trump rally, where could Trump appear and not be aggressively booed by about 45% of the crowd?

Chuck, there are still some nevertrumpers at Ricochet. Why not cough up the $5 a month to post all your shit there ?