What kind of President, what kind of human, bashes Mayor of an American city bracing for a big storm? A disgusting, loathsome one, who’s raiding FEMA in midst of hurricane season so as to build his useless wall.
— Ana Navarro-Cárdenas (@ananavarro) August 28, 2019
Puerto Rico, pls ignore este idiota.
We’re thinking about you.🇵🇷 https://t.co/HScVjJKe0G
August 28, 2019
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Wasn't it conclusively established the San Juan mayor is incompetent? Anyway, what I don't understand about the Tweet is he seems to blame Puerto Rico for being in the line of the storm. Stupid Puerto Rico.
A corruptocrat says "what"?
Who is this hyphenated twit? Her entire Twitter feed is dedicated to bashing Trump.
Never heard of her.
"Nuke Dorian!"
(shh. It's actually a deterrent into keeping him from advancing to hurricane from a tropical storm...)
That's exactly the kind of president I want.
"An America City"
Puerto Rico is not a state, honey.
The one who is called a Fascist, Nazi, Russia-loving, pussy grabbing monster, that's who.
"As you reap, so shall you sow (but only in 280 characters or less)"
He isn't wrong!!
Cut Puerto Rico loose. Libertad!
San Juan is an American city, as it is still your colonial possession.
Much as Singapore was a British city - or more so, probably as the British founded it.
Manila was an American city in 1945 but few think of it that way.
A Mayor who was hiding relief supplies for resale (with a commission). From a territory that has a government corrupt from stem to stern. If the storm would wash the Puerto Rico government out to sea and leave the people alone, that would be a huge win.
When they do, let them know it, and give them a big Thank You - Not like last time. That includes from the incompetent Mayor of San Juan!
Trump is "bashing" the mayor as thankless toward rescuers, while merely identifying the mayor as incompetent.
I know that the President promised only defensive use of nuclear weapons against Atlantic hurricanes. But if we could drop a dozen megatons in just the right spot, perhaps we could divert the hurricane to Venezuela. I’m only asking. Many people are talking about this. Anyway, you’ll find out.
Ah, Ana Navarro, the media's favorite token loudmouth Latina. One of so many "Republican strategists" whose strategy was never worth the empanada it was written on. Navarro is fond of calling people racist, and yet her entire career has been built on advancing her own ethnic self-interests, occupying various "Hispanic Advisory" councils, where she told dumb and gullible Republicans that the key to their electoral victory would be reaching out to Hispanics (i.e. proffering amnesty).
Ana was the designated never trumper on the spew,
The point is that Trump is making the Fedgov pre-emptively entirely responsible for emergency response, in the public perception. And discounting both the capacity and responsibility of the local authorities.
This could go well or badly depending on results.
Puffing up the local authorities risks having to defend them if they are seen to screw up, as they probably will.
What the MSM will make of things either way is predictable.
"...useless wall."
If it truly was useless no one would be complaining about it: useless is status quo for most government projects.
Projects are considered preemptively "useless" by people who find it detrimental that their use will be effective.
View Trump's wall in context with Reagan's 'Star Wars' program: ridiculed because of the fear it will work as intended.
I am Laslo.
Atom-Boy Chuck will never make people forget Racist "Ben Carson for Department of Black People" Chuck.
Apparently, Trump tood $10MM from FEMA's budget. FEMA has an annual budget of $18B. So, they will have to manage with .05% less. How many lives will that impact? Also, thinking about this problem as someone not still suffering butt-hurt from having her candidate embarrassed in the 2016 primary and having lost the opportunity to earns tons of money without having any apparent political skills or abilities, wouldn't the budget decrease only matter for the last disaster of the year?
" where she told dumb and gullible Republicans that the key to their electoral victory would be reaching out to Hispanics "
This is on the whole a good idea, which Republicans could never get to work. Part of the reason is that they chose characters like Navarro, who have no community connections at all, especially not with the CA Mexicans that the Republicans actually need.
I am reminded, once again, of Harry Truman, in his 1948 "Give 'em hell" campaign, saying: "I don't give 'em hell, I just tell the truth and they think it's hell."
That applies to Trump about 6 times a week, it seems.
Ignore the idiot but please keep sending the big fat checks...
I’m not sure how the stuff she cranks out helps Puerto Rico. Maybe it’s good for her political prospects.
@Laslo Spatula:
If it truly was useless no one would be complaining about it: useless is status quo for most government projects.
Exactly. "Walls don't work" is just one of the completely insane things you have to believe to be considered a respectable person in polite society. That and "race doesn't work" and "men can have ovaries."
The mayor deserves bashing.
San Juan is an American city, as it is still your colonial possession.
Much as Singapore was a British city - or more so, probably as the British founded it.
Manila was an American city in 1945 but few think of it that way.
It’s a possession only by their choice.
They can vote at any time to actually become a star on the flag.
Which would make them officially American.
We have 50 states, not 57.
Ana is the idiot. She's only on TV because she is a RINO Never Trumper with an accent.
Sorry, the $10MM represents a decrease of .005% - the horrors.
The wall IS useless... if your only goal is to enable more Democrat voter fraud. Which I'm quite sure is her goal.
If your goal is to prevent that voter fraud, it will certainly not be useless.
’Ah, Ana Navarro, the media's favorite token loudmouth Latina.’
You forgot zaftig. ;)
I’m not buying American city. Seems like we toss the idea of statehood around and it gets flatly rejected, so long as the money keeps flowing in. Poop or get off the pot on that one san juan.
She is as close to ocasio cortez as you would allow in a municipality, her signature issue was to rum agaimst the oversight board, which cut down on the skim.
"Walls don't work" is just one of the completely insane things you have to believe to be considered a respectable person in polite society. That and "race doesn't work" and "men can have ovaries."
And don't forget, 'Violence never solved anything'.
"What kind of President?" The kind that is willing to speak the truth and not be cowed by baseless attacks and lies.
Its like ray nagin the cable guy of new orleans and the supervisor of a certain parish thar had diverted levy money to his own pocket.
chickelit said...
Who is this hyphenated twit? Her entire Twitter feed is dedicated to bashing Trump.
Never heard of her.
8/28/19, 9:01 AM
She's the one who was filing her fingernails, on TV, during a segment about illegal immigration. - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnns-ana-navarro-files-her-nails-during-segment-on-illegal-immigrants
And John can rag on my all he wants about it, but it’s a heart thing, not a technical thing. Vote to become a state.
Native Americans are Americans, but they are still sovereign nations and follow their own laws on their own lands. It’s a tricky thing.
I think the Cherokee? Have a new leader, he wants tribe representation in the House as the agreement stipulated.
What kind of President, what kind of human, bashes Mayor of an American city bracing for a big storm? A disgusting, loathsome one, who’s raiding FEMA in midst of hurricane season so as to build his useless wall.
The one who has experience with said mayor.
Did she forget last time?
Sure it's crass, but also extremely effective at putting Cruz on notice that a spotlight will be on her response this time around to watch for additional corruption.
THe money sent to PR does not fix anything there. Most of it goes directly into slush funds that remit most of it back to the Congress Thieves that had it sent there. Swamp Draining 101 is what Trump has been accused of doing. In Baltimore 18 Billion went that route andTrump has traced it.The fear of Trump is at an all time high.Hence an attempt at Impeachment comes next.
Trump tweet translation for the understanding-impaired:
We are tracking closely tropical storm Dorian as it heads to Puerto Rico. Many tropical storms and hurricanes hit Puerto Rico - it is in the heart of the hurricane zone. Accordingly, the country established an agency, FEMA, to try to assist with the recovery. In my opinion, they have done a great job at this in the past, particularly with respect to Puerto Rico, and will do so again with Dorian. However, after the last storm hit, everyone (and especially the people of Puerto Rico and the press) crapped all over FEMA when their relief aid was not properly used, particularly by the Mayor of San Juan, which is a sign that he is incompetent. Lest we all forget, Puerto Rico also took all of the money given in advance to harden infrastructure to better withstand hurricanes (which, as just noted, strike the island with such incredible regularity that the desirability of such preparations is obvious) and frittered it away elsewhere, leaving the island needlessly overly vulnerable to the next storm.
Not bashing the mayor of a city bracing for a big storm, but warning him not to screw it up again.
It is your city, you are responsible for it.
It’s that you broke it you bought it thing.
This does apply in statecraft.
Consider it one of your 1898 errors.
Their electrical grid was out of date by 25 years, and stuck together by bailing wire.
“We’re thinking about you.”
While the President is doing something.
No one’s stopping her from going down there and helping out.
How corrupt is Puerto Rico?
So corrupt that even with a tax regime better than Florida (4% tax rate if you move there) no one is moving there.
Was it the SJ mayor who had time to change her outfits for every interview?
Which by my math shows a corruption tax of greater than 30%
Well they had a favorable tax climate then it was traded off for reasons unclear:
https://mobile.twitter.com/realJeffreyP/status/1166508818395799552
Donald J. Trump
August 26 at 9:52 PM ·
Just returned to Washington from France and the very successful G-7, only to find that the Fake News is still trying to perpetuate the phony story that I wanted to use Nuclear weapons to blow up hurricanes before they reach shore. This is so ridiculous, never happened!
Puerto Rico is a case in point of why colonialism became unfashionable.
It is not an American City. It is a Puerto Rican city under US occupation thank you
That was a comment...
Lolololol
What kind of president?
MY kind of president!
John Henry
Re: buwaya:
It is your city, you are responsible for it.
It’s that you broke it you bought it thing.
This does apply in statecraft.
Consider it one of your 1898 errors.
I don't think it was necessarily an error in 1898 -- there was reason to think we would want a conveniently located coaling station out there to help us project power into the Atlantic. With advances in power generation, though, it quickly became obsolete. Was certainly worthless as a colonial possession by the 1950's. Honestly, once Puerto Rican terrorists started making trouble we should just have cut them off. I don't think using the US Dollar as their currency is doing them any favours economically either -- they need currency devaluation to become economically competitive.
BleachBit-and-Hammers said...
Puerto Rico is not a state, honey.
Actually we are, sweetie. We are called a "commonwealth" (like Pennsylvania, Virginia and Massachusetts) but formally and legally we are the "Estado Libre Asociado" or "Free Associated State"
You might want to look up the meaning of the word "state" (small s)
And American? If you mean in the way it is normally used as United Statesian, I suggest you look of the legal definition of "The United States" in the Code of Federal Regulations.
Puerto Rico is as American as Madison, Dubuque or Cheyenne Wyoming.
John Henry
Trump should reply: "Go back to filing your nails, Hon!"
Twitter would melt down.
Corrupt instead of merely incompetent, and yes on the other two questions
Is the mayor incompetent? Did the mayor say "thank you" after receiving aid following the last and recurring natural disaster? Is she another model of a mayor of New Orleans?
Seeing Red said:
[PR]’s a possession only by their choice.
They can vote at any time to actually become a star on the flag.
Which would make them officially American.
************
Not so fast. Even if statehood won in a referendom, PR would still have to petition the federal government to become a state. A majority vote in both houses of Congress would be required, along with the POTUS's signature.
If the Puerto Rican government is as corrupt as being alleged here, Congress or Trump might balk at taking on yet another Democrat-run shithole.
Blogger Jake said...
Wasn't it conclusively established the San Juan mayor is incompetent?
Yup. And our, now ex, governor. And pretty much anyone who has ever held elective office as well as many of their appointees.
In another comment someone suggested a nuke that would get rid of all the politicians and leave the people. Someone let me know where I can sign up for that. Terrific idea.
Anyway, what I don't understand about the Tweet is he seems to blame Puerto Rico for being in the line of the storm. Stupid Puerto Rico.
I didn't read it that way. I read him as just pointing out that we are in hurricane alley here. Seems pretty hard to deny that.
But a politician was on TV last night complaining that he should not have pointed it out. While it is factually correct, it is apparently not politically correct to point it out.
John Henry
What kind of president points out corruption.
"As it is not a state, Puerto Rico does not have a vote in the United States Congress, which governs the territory with full jurisdiction under the Puerto Rico Federal Relations Act of 1950. However, Puerto Rico does have one non-voting member of the House called a Resident Commissioner. As residents of a U.S. territory, American citizens in Puerto Rico are disenfranchised at the national level and do not vote for the president or vice president of the United States,[29] nor pay federal income tax on Puerto Rican income. Like other territories and the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico does not have U.S. senators. Congress approved a local constitution in 1952, allowing U.S. citizens of the territory to elect a governor. Puerto Rico's future political status has consistently been a matter of significant debate.[30][31]"
---Wikipedia.
So...Puerto Rico is NOT a state under the Constituion. If it were, it could have two Senators, Congresscritters, vote in presidential elections, and a star on the flag, just for starters.
Shes very competent in pocketing the money, oh you mean serving the people, thats above her pay grade.
Why aren't we voting to cut PR loose? Sorry, John Henry.
Puerto Rico is as American as Madison
Why do I find that not comforting?
William appleman williams (the marcuse of the midwest) roost?
A couple of observations:
Last night the local channels were taken over by various govt officials talking about the storm, preparations and so on.
As they always do, they had a signer standing next to the podium signing whatever the speaker was saying.
There is a local joke here about how to get a Puerto Rican to stop talking. You make them put their hands in their pockets.
Watching the speakers, some of them were particularly passionate. It occurred to me that if I muted the sound, it would be difficult to tell which was was doing sign language for the deaf and which one was just talking.
I live on the northeast corner of the island, right on the coast on the border of Fajardo and Ceiba. We always seem to be ground zero for hurricanes.
Went to bed last night and the 11PM track showed the storm coming up into Ponce on the south coast and passing over Mayaguez. I had a pleasant night thinking that someone else was going to get hit for a change.
Someone worked some karma in the night because when I woke up, the track had shifted and it is now directly over my house.
OTOH, it is still only a tropical storm, 60mph winds. We have gotten a bit blase over the years and don't get excited about anything less than a Cat 2 or 3.
OTOOH, they did have someone from the hurricane center on last night explaining how they have found the cause of hurricanes and tropical storms.
Wind.
John Henry
Puerto Rico is the only state with foreign tax credit, then. Seems like a state only when it suits them.
I’m not sure the whinging about being a state does them any good in the eyes of working people in the other 50 either...
They discontinued that in 2006, for reasons.
The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is an American territory organized as a state, but not a State in the Union.
These multi-trimester periods of witch hunts and warlock trials (e.g. trial by press) have been a teachable moment. Trump is acting proactively to mitigate the progress of the press to frame the news and their audacity to manipulate perception of facts, or speak truth to facts h/t Biden. The media no longer has free reign to promote and protect special and peculiar interests,
Blogger rehajm said...
Seems like we toss the idea of statehood around and it gets flatly rejected
Actually, not quite right.
We have had 6-7 plebescites and referenda specifically about status. Normally independence gets 3-5% with the balance split fairly evenly between commonwealth (current status) and statehood. Statehood has never quite beaten commonwealth and neither has ever gotten a majority.
We also have elections every 4 years for all elected positions. We have 3 political parties New Progressive Party/PNP (Statehood) Popular Democratic Party/PDP (Commonwealth) and Puerto Rico Independence Party/PIP.
Party platforms are almost exclusively based on status, though that has been changing in the past 10-15 years as people wise up. PIP usually gets 5% or so with the other 2 splitting the balance. Sometimes one way, sometimes the other.
so long as the money keeps flowing in. Poop or get off the pot on that one san juan.
Yup, as long as continued commonwealth status is on the table, basically welfare, it is never going to change.
We need the US govt to tell us Commonwealth will expire in, say, 2025 and that we need to decide statehood or independence. And by statehood, I mean full integration into the US.
John Henry
What kind of News Person, what kind of human, bashes President of an America bracing for a big storm? A disgusting, loathsome one, who’s dissing FEMA in midst of hurricane season so as to criticize his useful wall.
fify!
Blogger Seeing Red said...
And John can rag on my all he wants about it, but it’s a heart thing, not a technical thing.
BBH seemed to be talking about it as a technical or legal thing, hence my note. But you are right. In addition to being a legal thing, it is a heart thing. On both sides.
One of the objections here to becoming a state is that our Puerto Rican identity and culture would get subsumed into the great melting pot. I think that is true and I think it is part of being American.
Immigrants did it as individuals. I don't see why Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans should be exempted.
I am sort of a statehooder and I am sort of a Puerto Rican and I am fully American. The only way I could ever vote for statehood would be on the condition of full integration and full equality. I don't believe equality could ever exist without full integration.
John Henry
Blogger wholelottasplainin' said...
So...Puerto Rico is NOT a state under the Constituion.
Nope. No question about that. But the country "The United States", as defined in the CFR, does include the 50 states, PR, USVI, Guam and the Marianas.
I also suggested that the term "state" be reviewed. It has a specific meaning. That meaning was well understood back in the 1700's. Most people nowadays seem to think it is synonymous with "province"
John Henry
Canada is the only country who can join the USA without jumping thru hoops.
We made them an offer they refused somewhere between 1775- 1790 I think.
Which can join
I came in late to this 'state' dispute, but hasn't this already been settled
Isn't Puerto Rico part of New York City? Like Cuba is part of Miami?
Blogger PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...
I don't believe equality could ever exist without full integration.
Both ways of course but I was thinking more on our side. If we were to become a state it must mean accepting that our culture gets subsumed into the melting pot on Americanism. No special carve outs or exemptions.
John Henry
One of the objections here to becoming a state is that our Puerto Rican identity and culture would get subsumed into the great melting pot. I think that is true and I think it is part of being American.
I don’t think so because while some things would become uniform, you’re too far away.
You’d be like Quebec, I think.
An honest president might do that. We haven't had many lately.
"We’re thinking about you."
Ahh, that's so nice!
More chicago, and the outlying suburbs of miami, instead of the city center.
"'Walls don't work' is just one of the completely insane things you have to believe to be considered a respectable person in polite society. That and 'race doesn't work' and 'men can have ovaries.'"
Another example is "torture doesn't work." It would sure work on me.
John Henry, thanks for your insights on PR.
Hurricane Hugo 1989 Cat 4, massive damage to the eastern part of the island.
Hurricane Georges 1998 Cat 4, massive damage to the entire island.
Neither president Bush nor President Clinton visited.
President Trump visited after Hurricane Maria 2 years ago.
I thought it a nice gesture.
John Henry
Actually we are seeing that walls do work. We have built about 60 miles of new 30' high wall in some critical areas.
We have Mexico paying to put a green wall of troops on the northern border. (Sorry, Dick)
Illegal border crossings are down about 30%.
Seems like walls are working pretty well.
John Henry
PR could pass a referendum for statehood, but they could also pass a referendum for independence. I doubt the US would object to independence but why should it admit a state with two more guaranteed leftist senators? Regardless, the real issue for PR is that either option - statehood or independence - negatively affects the inflow of US tax dollars from the mainland. Specifically, statehood would remove PR's exemption from federal taxation (currently, income tax dollars only flow to PR, not from it), and independence would leave them with the prospects of having to become adults and not only live within their means, but also try to pay off their massive, self-inflicted debt without US assistance. Neither one of those is going to happen unless their "colonial oppressors" get tired of the BS and find a way to unilaterally cut them loose.
The real problem with PR is not incompetence, it's corruption, graft, extravagant pensions, a bloated and bureaucracy-mired government, and unwillingness to reform. PR is not much different from any other one-time Spanish possession in that regard - think Mexico, the Philippines, Guam, all of Central America and most of South America, etc. Whereas most major former colonies of Great Britain were left with democratic institutions (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, US, Bermuda, Caribbean possessions, Hong Kong, etc,) former Spanish colonies were left with a legacy of corrupt government, poorly managed bureaucracies, exploitation and "la mordida" (the bite.) If you want to fix PR, the Philippines or any other former Spanish colony, ask the British to invade it, redevelop it's institutions and then grant it independence.
Yippee!
Just looked at the 11AM update. The track has moved northeast a bit and now passes about 10-15 miles north of my house.
Embrace the power of Althouse commenters good wishes!!
Thanks friends.
Currently, it is still sunny here with a slight overcast. Slight breeze but just a normal day.
We can’t drill our way out, either.
Best wishes for your safety, PuertoRicoSpaceport.com. I lived in Condado and Gurabo from 1992-1999. The wonderful people of Puerto Rico do not deserve the corrupt government they have, except that they keep voting them in.
San Juan is NOT an American city. It's a city in Puerto Rico, which is an American territory, and a nation in its own right, but not an American state.
Another example is "torture doesn't work." It would sure work on me.
What if you were innocent?
I hope Puerto Rico misses the damage of this current hurricane. Why? Because I fear for the people and the corrupt politicians, like the Mayor of San Juan, ensconced with the hurricane relief money and goods. Why is this politician not in jail yet?
As they say in the investing business, past performance is not a guarantee of future results.
HOWEVER, in the case of people and the corrupt Mayor of San Juan, I think it is a pretty safe bet that the future performance of ineptness and purposeful corruption is guaranteed.
And is San Juan really "an American City"? I don't think so.
It is an American Territory. But does not exist on AMERICAN soil. This situation is something which should be rectified. We should... Give them independence and then they can stop whining about not getting ALL the free pieces of the pie (my choice). Set them FREE or we should just take over the joint.
Sorry Puerto Rico. We are not responsible for your location. You are in the path of hurricanes and have been for hundreds of thousands of years...... just as I live in a State full of earthquakes and volcanoes. Same thing goes for the people who decide to build houses on the beach fronts on the Atlantic seaboard. Storms happen.
The only way I would agree to Puerto Rico becoming a State would be if all the overseas possessions were bundled together with Hawaii. And renamed to Oceania.
"Another example is 'torture doesn't work.' It would sure work on me.
What if you were innocent?"
So when people say torture doesn't work, they mean that it fails to work because some people are innocent? That construction seems unduly restrictive. As a general statement, the idea that torture doesn't work seems preposterous. I'm sure many, many people have given up valuable information only because they were being tortured. I'm not defending it as a legitimate practice, but simply taking issue with the broad claim that it "doesn't work."
Another example (less incendiary, I imagine) is the oft-heard claim that "diets don't work." The explanation given for this assertion is that people often regain the weight they lost once they stop dieting. OK, but that's actually proof that diets do work. It's NOT dieting that is causing people to gain weight again.
Blogger J. Farmer said...
Another example is "torture doesn't work." It would sure work on me.
What if you were innocent?
Social media “torture” seems to work on innocent people.
Or deplatforming.
Torture or its threat may have a sadomasochistic, punitive, or coercive motive.
How long before that mayor of an 'American' city runs around with new t-shirts printed up bashing Trump?
An interesting thing about PR is that they have the cleanest elections in the US and the most corrupt government in the nation.
Instead of statehood maybe we could work up a trade with the Danes?
They could always bite for independence and let the UN help.
Is Navarro ever going to apologize for bilking real Republicans out of salary and other money for decades while she peddled her RINO bullcrap?
Blogger cubanbob said...
An interesting thing about PR is that they have the cleanest elections in the US
Yup. We don't even have jokes about election fraud. Everybody, with a very few exceptions, votes in person and everyone shows a voter ID card to vote.
Sounds like a pain in the butt but we have the highest registration and turnout of anywhere in the US.
Someone asked why we keep voting corrupt politicians in. That is a good question and could be asked of many places. Chicago, for example. To a less blatant extent DC.
When you get an entrenched political party, or a uni-party as here and in DC, how do you get them out? You can vote in a few new people but they seldom will have the power or force of personality to do anything about it other than make noise.
Would it really have made any difference whether Edwards or Bush won? Or Obama or McCain? Or Romney or Obama?
We face the same problem here.
I think a lot of localities face the problem to a greater or lesser extent.
The only thing the average citizen can do is say "Ay bendito" and get on with our lives, ignoring the govt shenanigans.
John Henry
and the most corrupt government in the nation.
Population:
Los Angeles
3.9 million
Puerto Rico
3.2 million
Chicago
2.7 million
People in Puerto Rico are US citizens, why are they still there in such a bad place? Probably for the same reason that US citizens still live in Maine.
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