July 4, 2019

Watch the “Salute to America”...

... and talk about it here.

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narciso said...

Oh dark shadows probably but seeing as this decidedly a new England thing,

J. Farmer said...

And here we were hoping you'd grow up.

Look in a mirror, sweetheart.

Birkel said...

Yes, I admit incompetence in the skill of agreeing with you.

narciso said...

Just folks of good will;
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/451713-arrests-after-fourth-of-july-flag-burning-outside-the-white

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Gadaffi made imam sadr disappear so the sepah cited through Mustafa chatman select members of berrus Amal militia in hezbillah and uses Arafat's force 17 (mughniyah naddradine) for leadershio

Birkel said...

Hez b'Allah

You disagreed previously with the spelling.
Do tell.

walter said...

I gave you a reference.
Seem to be running on snark tonight...which you of tomorrow might err..eschew.

Fen said...

It's so bizarre that Independence Day is now a controversial holiday.

The Marxist Left wants America to fail.

Their fellow Democrats enable them for the sake of gaining power.

The simple answer is they are not Americans anymore.

narciso said...

Well its transliteration so its anybody's guess, Wright Friedman Norton, to various degrees created a bottom up generation narrative to it, Paul pillar shared in those notions
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Fen said...

Been advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy

Same way I play Bach. On a reed pipe. It's very entertaining.

Kinda.

Birkel said...

Does Hez mean army?
D' means of, right.
What does Allah mean, J Farmer?

Fen said...

...and in doing so, further divided our country. This on a day when our nation’s president should be uniting us. - Tulsi Gabbard

"Officer, she was dressed like a whore, it's her fault I raped her" - also Tulsi Gabbard

narciso said...

That was regrettable on tulsi part, but seeing how inflammatory rhetoric like Kamala Harris's wins support up to a point

J. Farmer said...

Seem to be running on snark tonight...which you of tomorrow might err..eschew.

Saying that someone is using guilt by association and asserting factually incorrect statements is not snark. As for a Birkel, when someone offers only snark, it’s perfectly legitimate to offer only snark in return.

narciso said...

There was a very schlocky soap passions which dwelt on similar genealogical hangups as dark shadows

Clark said...
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Birkel said...

Only snark?
I am asking you to define what Iranian-supported Hez b'Allah means.

Are you unaware of the meaning?
How can the meaning of words be snark?

J. Farmer said...

How can the meaning of words be snark?

Simple. It has nothing to do with anything I’ve written in this thread. But as you’ve said over and over, you only do this for your entertainment. So I’m glad I could once again offer a glimmer of entertainment in your life. You’re welcome. Love you buddy. Have a good night. Hugs and kisses.

narciso said...

Army of God, when they were taking hostages they called themselves the Islamic jihad organizations, when they were blowing things up they used the first name, not for the first time they work with Sunni militants like al Suri on the bombing of the el Encino at torrejon air base in soain

effinayright said...

I had to miss this year's 4th of July fireworks in Lincoln, Mass outside Boston.

It's the best.

Last year my wife and I were close enough to the setup (but still inside the fence that marks the boundary for the crowd) that we had charred casings from the exploded charges all over us.

The display itself was first-rate. Just about RIGHT over our heads. KaBOOM!


I think it took my retinas a week to clear the after-images.

Just glorious.

Clark said...

I just did my annual rereading of the Declaration of Independence. It is a powerful document.

narciso said...

It is, we do I'll to ignore its principles, 'when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary to dissolve these bonds,...

narciso said...

Example 24:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/07/04/colonies-rebel-against-empires-brexit-partys-ann-widdecombe-eviscerates-eu-in-july-4th-speech/?fbclid=IwAR1sHU2U_oOrzzQvRg_8x_Za43h_I0rIW3dzh350ff5jdDU3iFXLWGTS7ac

Clark said...

Best fireworks I ever saw were in Geneva a number of years ago. I was overnighting there to catch a flight out the next day. It was August 1st, the Swiss national holiday. They were having a competition among 3 fireworks companies. One Chinese, one French, I forget the third. There were three full fireworks shows, one after the another, competing to be the one to put on the show the following year, which was going to be a 500 year or 700 year (I can't remember) Geneva celebration. It was amazing.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

even Dubai lights up their building w/ American flag, but our own
media/left cant seem to do it justice.

*******

BETSY ROSS FLAG !
(printed in all Kaps)

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

For Kap, it's
"The Land of the 'Fro
And the home of the Slave"

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Kap's career has been flagging lately

gadfly said...

"In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief. The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown.

"Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket’s red glare it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their star-spangled banner waved defiant."


Where to start? How about admitting that the Continental Congress named George Washington as Commander of the Continental Army - the didn't name the army "George Washington's Army."

We did what! We manned the air in order to use the airports, I guess. Does this mean we didn't have drones back in 1775?

And sorry, Cornwallis didn't hail from Yorktown, he merely surrendered his Army there.

And "Oh can you see that our flag was still there" doesn't make the withstanding of 1500 cannonballs, fired by British vessels afloat in the shallow waters adjacent to the fort in Baltimore harbor, a victory. Francis Scott Key wrote about the "Defense of Fort McHenry."

Big Mike said...

This on a day when our nation’s president should be uniting us,

I would call that an extremely divisive comment. Perhaps if Tulsi Gabbard wants to be President of a united country she should think about how she is going to reconcile her fellow idiots of the Democrat Party with those of us who found Trump’s speech stirring in its praise of our country.

JAORE said...

"The self-serving politician that he is, Trump has succeeded in making July 4th about himself, and in doing so, further divided our country. This on a day when our nation’s president should be uniting us."-- Tulsi Gabbard

Did she say this before or after Trump spoke. I'd wager it was written before in any event.

I must say the speech was a surprise in that it was so non-partisan without a trace of bashing the opposing party(unless you equate love of America as bashing the left).

stevew said...

It's morning in America, the greatest nation ever conceived and created. We can be better through a commitment to our founding ideals as expressed in the Declaration of Independence. As Coolidge once said, these things are final, they cannot be improved. Our only task remaining is to implement them completely.

Big Mike said...

Did she say this before or after Trump spoke. I'd wager it was written before in any event.

Don’t you think tha makes it even worse, jumping down his throat about what she thinks he is going to say instead of waiting to hear what he did say before criticizing it?

I must say the speech was a surprise in that it was so non-partisan without a trace of bashing the opposing party

Didn’t surprise me. He spoke about America on a day devoted to America. He gets it, in ways that too many politicians don’t.

(unless you equate love of America as bashing the left).

I dunno. The left started the Fourth of July by calling the American flag a symbol of hatred and oppression. You figure it out.

wildswan said...

In 1876, eleven years after the "end" of the Civil War, there were still US Army troops in parts of the former Confederacy. As usual Americans were sick of maintaining an army somewhere to enforce a victory. The armed revolt was over; it was time for the troops to leave and normal life to resume. The 1876 deal kept the pro-slavery, pro-Confederacy Democratic party out of national office so that if armed rebellion was resumed it could be put down. But the Southern leaders had no intention of resuming war, they had two goals. One was restoring economic life to the south whose economy was wrenched by the end of slavery and was partially destroyed by the looting and burning right at the end. The Shenandoah valley was burned, a sixty mile wide swath from one side of Georgia to the other including the city of Atlanta was burned and looted and then Sherman's army went north through South Carolina, burning the capital, burning and looting on the same sixty mile front. Grant's army broke the lines around Richmond which fell and was burned. Three major American cities in ashes. No one cared because it was felt that the Confederacy supported looting the slaves of all the productive consequences of their work. Hand that idea back to them and see how they like losing all their work, was the feeling. For the same reason, when the area of the former Confederacy has trouble rebuilding because it was under martial law, no one cared for awhile. But then it seemed time to forget bitterness, time to rebuild, time for the army to leave. The South took up the ideas of Wade Hamden and basically agreed not to revolt if the army left. And it didn't but in addition to economic revitalization they began to work for the second southern goal, to hold the blacks down without slavery. So they began passing Jim Crow laws and working out segregationist reasoning. What was going on behind tricky laws wasn't taken on as a national issue till 1960. By then a majority in the South was opposed to segregation but still voting for it. See Lyndon Johnson if you think that is not possible. And thank God Almighty that we had the Rev. Martin Luther King to show us a way out that meant living up to our ideals, not running from them.

And we're in new times now. New issues, new men.

Ralph L said...

It was a partisan speech because it made the Dems/MSM look idiotic, partisan, and divisive for claiming it would be idiotic, partisan, and divisive before it was given.

wildswan said...

So Trump is aware of the new times, the new issues and is rallying people to gather together and move forward together while the left, burning with hatred for America, works for the fall of the republic.

Ralph L said...

The PBS reporter couldn't keep the derision out of his voice when he said "military" and "war machines."

They would have ignored the whole event if Trump hadn't brought in a couple tanks. They can't help themselves now.

wildswan said...

And the forces rallying for America were on the Mall in a great show and the forces filled with hatred for America were in the TV studios denouncing the deplorable rabble and their inspired leader. It getting to be so clear.

iowan2 said...

Hmm...haven’t really “gone” anywhere. Been advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy my entire adult life.

The ideological position that is NEVER wrong. No matter what happens you can always claim getting involved would have been worse. Or if everything works out by taking action, you can claim it would have been the same or better result by not acting. The perfect Schrodinger's cat foreign policy for the internet.

Kevin said...

Shorter thread: I know you are but what am I?

Jaq said...

Yeesh.

Jaq said...

That “Yeesh” was directed at the thread as a whole, BTW.

Robert Cook said...

"The ideological position that is NEVER wrong. No matter what happens you can always claim getting involved would have been worse. Or if everything works out by taking action, you can claim it would have been the same or better result by not acting. The perfect Schrodinger's cat foreign policy for the internet."

And yet...what intervention(s) have we conducted in the past 50 years that were warranted, necessary, legal, and didn't make things orders of magnitude worse than they had been?

Jaq said...

And yet...what intervention(s) have we conducted in the past 50 years that were warranted, necessary, legal, and didn't make things orders of magnitude worse than they had been?

Grenada, Nicaragua, where we kept leftist dictatorships out of power and pushed back on Cuban ambitions. Cuba succeeded in Venezuela, would we could have prevented that nightmare from unfolding. Cuba was pushed back in Chili too, another win. It seems like a lot of the “disappeared” were from Cuba.

Jaq said...

Cuba is an island prison. They have snipers to shoot swimmers who try to escape to Guantanamo, and they are the one country, on Obama’s orders, to which refugees are returned immediately without so much as a hearing.

Jaq said...

It’s because Cubans tend to vote Republican, having lived under socialism.

chuck said...

> I had to miss this year's 4th of July fireworks in Lincoln, Mass outside Boston.

I grew up there, we moved into the town about 1952 when it was still mostly a farming town. Thinned corn with the Brooks kids. The fireworks were always the best. During a tax revolt one year they were proposed to be cut, but at the town meeting Thomas Adams (Adams family) got up and made an impassioned speech to keep them, and we had fireworks that year too.

narciso said...

Had they landed the expedition in Trinidad in stead of playa giron, they could have cut off Fidel, theres only one access road.

Robert Cook said...

"Grenada, Nicaragua, where we kept leftist dictatorships out of power and pushed back on Cuban ambitions."

Why were these invasions warranted, necessary, or legal?

TJM said...

Ann,

You are very brave for posting about this. You will likely be excommunicated from Libtard-Dom and one of its main cities, Madison!!! You go girl!

Rusty said...

That pesky Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary pirates. If only he left those people to rot.

Michael K said...

Why were these invasions warranted, necessary, or legal?

They absolutely were illegal if you are a communist, Cook.

madAsHell said...

Kirk says “Oh! They mean SON worshippers!"

I think it was Uhuru monitoring radio broadcasts from the planet, and she pointed it out to Kirk.

We've lost the art of watching re-runs.

Big Mike said...

In the cold light of the day after, I realized that -- planned or not -- Trump has acted perfectly to make the the left look deeplyly foolish to the citizens who, unlike us!, are tuned out of politics most of the time.

He's going to declare martial law! Ah, no, he didn't.

He's going to say things to divide us! (Per Tulsi Gabbard) Only if you're already divided from the vast majority of Americans.

He's the President of the United States of America, and he said a few words of praise for great Americans on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Democrats claim he's not allowed to do that? Why not?

Michael McNeil said...

The obliteration of the Islamic State — just this last year — was warranted.

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