"... that left eight people injured in California, authorities said. Suspect Betai Koffi, 32, of San Francisco was listed in critical condition at a hospital after he was shot at least three times by a sheriff’s deputy in Bodega Bay during his frenzied Fourth of July acid trip, authorities said. Koffi... took two doses of LSD... Koffi 'became delusional'... prompting his friends to try to keep him calm... But then he took two more doses hours later.... Authorities said Koffi escaped the residence after attacking his friends inside... He then allegedly hopped into his rented blue Hyundai but crashed into the garage of the home as he drove toward another pal trying to stop him from leaving.... Koffi got out of the sedan and ran to a nearby home, where he was confronted by a neighborhood security guard, whom he stabbed with the metal stake of a landscape light... Koffi then allegedly stole the guy’s pickup truck, which was unlocked and running at the time. 'As Koffi fled, he drove straight towards an unrelated man and woman walking on the road.... Koffi drove straight towards the pair and violently hit the woman with the truck, causing significant injuries.'"
The NY Post reports.
LSD? Does that sound like LSD?
Wikipedia:
The most common immediate psychological effects of LSD are visual hallucinations and illusions.... Negative experiences, referred to as "bad trips", produce intense negative emotions, such as irrational fears and anxiety, panic attacks, paranoia, rapid mood swings, intrusive thoughts of hopelessness, wanting to harm others, and suicidal ideation. It is impossible to predict when a bad trip will occur. Good trips are stimulating and pleasurable, and typically involve feeling as if one is floating, disconnected from reality, feelings of joy or euphoria (sometimes called a "rush"), decreased inhibitions, and the belief that one has extreme mental clarity or superpowers.
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A real bro would have just knocked him out.
LSD? Does that sound like LSD?
Yes.
At least he didn't jump out the window like other LSD cases I know of.
This is one advantage of single story houses in the Bay Area.
Q. "LSD? Does that sound like LSD?"
A. Bio-individuality
If I come near poison ivy, however slight, trouble's in my future. But a friend can pull the stuff out of the group by its roots, and no problem for her.
Koffi is a person of color. The police should not have shot him. Excessive force. They could have thrown a net around him or used a Taser. Violation of his federal civil rights. Big lawsuit coming.
But Timothy Leary told us it would make us geniuses. And sixty years later we are still awaiting that effect, and since the holy grail is a pill, we spent that time experimenting with every mind altering chemical ever known or invented expecting the next one will do the trick.
Once we get marijuana legalized and in vending machines across all 50 states, we can start in on LSD.
After all, it's brain food for Silicon Valley smart people!
And don't you want your kid to grow up to be one of the Silicon Valley smart people?
Because if you don't, that's child abuse!
No child left behind.
Is that slogan available for the LSD folks?
Maybe it was Hitchcock's Birds he saw at Bodega Bay that drove him Mad.
But Timothy Leary told us it would make us geniuses. And sixty years later we are still awaiting that effect
Oh no, man, the effect is all around us.
How else is everyone suddenly seeing structural racism when they couldn't before?
How else are we suddenly able to read people's minds to know if they hold racist thoughts?
We've become, like, geniuses at it.
...listed in critical condition at a hospital after he was shot at least three times by a sheriff’s deputy in Bodega Bay during his frenzied Fourth of July acid trip...
"Well, it's something to do in your spare time. There's a lot of spare time in Bodega Bay."
No, it does not sound in the least like LSD. It is more reminiscent of early 1980s PCP crimes. And I’m sorry, you take FOUR hits of acid, I don’t see you driving anywhere. This story doesn’t pass the sniff test.
I’ve done my fair share of experimenting but have never been drawn to hallucinogens. Although I do know a few people who have claimed to have highly positive results from mushrooms.
If this guy would just tell everyone that the LSD enabled him to see people's racist thoughts, and that's why he attacked them, he could probably find a SF jury to drop all the charges.
After all, you can't get in trouble for physically attacking someone if they're racist.
We teach that in our schools.
Sounds like we need trip insurance.
Rather than sell it in a little booth like they used to do at airports, there can be an APP.
Big Mike said...
LSD? Does that sound like LSD?
Yes.
That is, to the single word, the exact reaction that I had to this story. Thank you, Big Mike.
When LSD "took off" in wide public recreational attention (about 1967, as I recall, after being quietly in existence and usage for many years before), I was of the age (about 11), where we were susceptible to the public paranoia that insisted that LSD would harm users' genetics. Since I was 11, I don't much recall whether the medical profession was disabusing anyone of that notion, or whether they thought LSD was bad enough that even disinformation about it was okay as long as it discouraged users.
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No, it does not sound in the least like LSD.
I’d be very surprised if LSD was the only drug in his system. He may also have had an underlying psychiatric problem.
"Does that sound like LSD?"
It sounds like he took a ridiculous dose, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Why is Chuck numbering his posts?
The LSD Story was the first episode of the 1960s reboot of Dragnet, Jack Webb’s one man crusade against the counterculture.
You’re the dirty disbelievers.
The Evil Disbelievers!
EVIL! EVIL! EVIL!
LSD? Does that sound like LSD?
Sounds like crazy, stoned leftists.
One thing that always bugged me about drugs, particularly pills is, How on earth do you know what's in them? I remember low level dope peddlers in the 70s, mixing Oregano in the weed to add volume and increase sales price to gullible dupes (I'm talking about high school knuckleheads,as both sellers and buyers.)
At a higher level, I've heard stories about cutting cocaine with baby power.
I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that street pills or LSD or other substances are infused with all sorts of weird, cheap, and potentially dangerous chemicals.
It's not like there's any stamp of approval from Consumer Reports.
How does snorting that Formaldehyde from the Chemistry lab make you feel, dipshits?
why do you think they call it 'dope'?
LSD certainly didn't affect me that way but I guess people's physiology can differ in their reaction to chemicals.
Why is Chuck numbering his posts?
To see how many before the tiresome Drago shit arrives?
@EDH:
Damn. Two Dragnet references at the exact same time. It’s one of my favorite episodes.
Why is Chuck numbering his posts?
It makes it easier to refer to them in his diary entries before bedtime.
The dealer said it was LSD. Súre.
One time we were over a friends house drinking heavily. We all knew we would crash there and not try to drive home.
One friend, the drunkest among us, said he was leaving in his car, no matter what.
We pulled off the distributor cap (it was long time ago, I know)from his car and he couldn't get it started.
He called a tow truck!
The dude showed up and looked under the hood. He saw the obvious problem and was about to say something, when he glanced at us and we gave him the look of we're sorry, but don't say anything.
He hooked the car up, our friend got in the cab with him, and they drove off.
A 'delusional' YouTube software engineer attacked four friends — including one he stabbed with a pencil — and rammed a stolen truck into pedestrians in an LSD-fueled rampage...
"YouTube... Mess You Up! "
That's not gonna be good for business.
That's not gonna be good for anybody.
Why is Chuck numbering his posts?
We made a deal - 50 comments by him without any reference to Trunp or Althouse in exchange for 1 big ass bottle of Gin.
So far, it seems to be working!
Were the event to have occurred here in D.C. or the surrounding areas, PCP would have almost certainly have been the cause. The number of arrests for possession or sale of phencyclidine is frightening. Just in the federal courts: https://search.justice.gov/search?affiliate=justice-usao-dc&query=Phencyclidine
"We made a deal - 50 comments by him without any reference to Trunp or Althouse in exchange for 1 big ass bottle of Gin."
You should've made it a hundred.
Whatever happened to bath salts? Remember those rampages?
That was back in 2012. I had posts about a man eating somebody's face and another guy who "stabbed himself, threw skin and intestines at cops..." Then, nothing.
Bay:
And that's why we need government quality control on pot and coke. Regulate it. Tax it. Get the criminals out of the business and put the government in charge. The government can then use that money for good! Bread and circuses. Keep the voters drugged and docile. /sarc
The Sheriff's line in "No Country for Old Men" covers the topic for me. “I think if you were Satan and you were settin around tryin to think up somethin that would just bring the human race to its knees what you would probably come up with is narcotics.”
I guess demonetizing conservatives lost it's thrill.
It's a gateway drug to LSD.
Bodega Bay?? "The Fog"
Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, Janet Leigh
Breasts. cheek bones. legs and more cleavage...
Young Clint Eastwood and crazed female stalker....
The Dems are the party of open borders and against The Wall. The Mexican drug cartels are one of the primary beneficiaries of this policy. Why is this rarely mentioned?
Are the Dems on the take from the cartels?
Or am I wrong just to raise the issue?
This story doesn’t pass the sniff test.
Agree. Whatever he took probably wasn't LSD. Which is why this is unusual news.
Whatever happened to bath salts? Remember those rampages?
These things are "moral panics", so they come and go. People get bored, or...
That was back in 2012. I had posts about a man eating somebody's face and another guy who "stabbed himself, threw skin and intestines at cops..." Then, nothing.
...find out they're mostly fake news click bait. I checked on two face-eaters, both came up clean, so "it must've been some drug we don't know about!". They never give up. FWIW, none of those drugs gives people super-human strength. (Oh yeah) Another story about how it took 14(?) cops to subdue some guy in a bar because he was high on PCP. Two days later he was just drunk.
@Dave Begley:
The entire establishment is for open borders and against the wall. That includes the Dems and most of the Republicans. Congressional Republicans have already tried several times to sell the country out on immigration.
No, it does not sound in the least like LSD. It is more reminiscent of early 1980s PCP crimes. And I’m sorry, you take FOUR hits of acid, I don’t see you driving anywhere. This story doesn’t pass the sniff test.
Agreed. The acts to get away from Them reminds me of a friend suffering from Meth Psychosis. It was very scary, especially considering I didn't know of the term until 6 months in trying to help him.
There was a "6th Sense" moment, when I realized all "evidence" that his wife and friends were out to get him were based on conversations he overheard. They were all auditory hallucinations.
4 hits in a day. Might sound like LSD. Possible outcome. Certainly not normal.
PCP?
Entirely possible. I hallucinated on LSD, but they weren't the sorts of visions that I would act out at- I always was aware I was hallucinating because what I was seeing that wasn't there would come and go- it was a cue. However, my group was careful to not use too much LSD, so maybe I am not the right anecdote.
My father suffered from Lewy Body Dementia related to Parkinson's. The last year of his life he suffered from crippling and alarming visual and audio hallucinations, and could become quite violent in trying to react to them. This story reminds me of those events, but with a man much younger and physically capable.
Was he here on one of those tech HB-1 visas? And if so, will we deport him right after he serves his prison sentence?
My father suffered from Lewy Body Dementia related to Parkinson's. The last year of his life he suffered from crippling and alarming visual and audio hallucinations, and could become quite violent in trying to react to them.
Yancey, that's what my late husband had, too. It was a heartbreaking ten-year episode. I had to hide anything sharp and play along with his delusions and hallucinations. If he saw a strange man in the corner of the living room, I'd get the dog to bark and scare him off. He would insist he had to catch a plane and I would tell him the flight had been cancelled, etc., etc. Some of the time he thought me an impostor who meant him harm so he would become violent toward me. I'm sure you experienced much the same with this tragic disease.
For my father, Mockturtle, it was only the last year he lived that it was bad (he died last August). We became aware of the hallucinations in 2014 when he was alone at home for a couple of weeks that Summer as my mother and I had other family business to deal with, but with us home, I think he was able to deal with the hallucinations better because he had us as a check on reality, but he lost that in the Summer of 2017- he no longer believed us when we told him he was seeing things. We also had to hide sharp objects and blunt instruments.
A friend whose husband also had LBD smashed her car with a sledge hammer.
"No, it does not sound in the least like LSD. It is more reminiscent of early 1980s PCP crimes. And I’m sorry, you take FOUR hits of acid, I don’t see you driving anywhere. This story doesn’t pass the sniff test."
I agree with this.
I guess it wasn't the popular micro-dose. Or was that rampage the desired "creativity'?
"I’ve done my fair share of experimenting but have never been drawn to hallucinogens. Although I do know a few people who have claimed to have highly positive results from mushrooms."
I've done relatively little experimenting, (I never smoked pot, even though all my high school and college friends did so), but hallucinogens are what I did enjoy. LSD, which I tried maybe 6 or 7 times--the first time at age 30--powerfully reorients one's perspective. It made me realize how much of what we see as reality is simply how our brain interprets the sensory input we take in. (I never hallucinated things that were not actually around me.) I wouldn't recommend frequent use, but, taken judiciously on infrequent occasions, it's enjoyable. Mushrooms were better, but they became increasingly hard to get down each time I tried (about four times, total),as they taste so foul. It was more mellow than LSD. I've tried Ecstasy maybe three times and I really liked it. However, each time, the next day, I felt wrung out and tired, almost like a hangover without the headaches or other unpleasant physical after-effects.
"Bodega Bay?? 'The Fog'"
Bodega Bay? Hitchcock's THE BIRDS, with Tippi Hedrin and Rod Taylor.
I have taken LSD in the past so this is my personal opinion based on my experiences and that of other people around me.
LSD will affect each person differently. Most of the bad trips are due to a person's underlying issues. If you are a paranoid person to begin with, LSD might make that worse. If you a person prone to depression...same thing.
LSD also will affect you based on the surroundings. People around you. Environment.
You can't blame the drug directly for the bad trip. There are many underlying causes.
I never had a bad trip. It was actually quite amazing, exhilarating, beautiful and sometimes a bit anxious when I felt that perhaps, I might be not still in control. Being the control freak that I am, I decided...Well...that was interesting. That's enough of that.
Diversity is our strength.
It sounds like LSD, or at least some experiences with LSD. When you take a drug that separates you from reality, you don't really get a choice of what your delusions are going to be. There are documented freak outs involving marijuana that led to fatalities.
At least he didn't write a well-researched memo about differences in work preferences between genders.
Like Cookie and DBQ, my experiences with LSD were interesting and exhilarating. And yes, my perspective was somewhat changed. For one thing, it made me realize the extent of the universe and how very small I am which, paradoxically, comforted me. I was in a friendly environment with good music and good friends.
But then, I was never a mean drunk, either, and some people are. So it's probably an individual thing. BTW, my late husband wanted to try smoking marijuana and it made him very sick. I don't know of anyone else with this experience.
bath salts in the (google) news.
Check out the horror stories...
The articles are mostly about "Global Bath Salts Market" (e.g., epsom salts), then some black homosesexuals OD-ing on meth and etc, which was the only bath-salts horror story even though they died from other stuff, then on the next page of results there are more market forecasts (epsom salts) and a black guy arrested four weeks ago.
In addition to the drug related moral panics, hate crimes are another fun realm of "no follow-ups in the fake news, please, because we're not really reporters".
Here's an international news article about a knotted piece of string left on a desk, which constituted an "act of hate [which] violates all of the values that we hold dear and will not be tolerated" and "... the FBI is prepared to investigate."
I have linonophobia, so that's a relief!
The last report on the violation of all the values that we hold dear was two weeks ago, and was still just speculation, so apparently some miscreant got away with violating of all the values that we hold dear. Every. Single. Value. According to CNN.
Bath salts bath shmaltz.
I have taken hundreds of doses of LSD and I was around many many people who were tripping. Anything is possible with LSD. Anything. It affects different people in different ways, but I have witnessed violent psychotic breaks not much different from the story above. I mean it could have been meth, or coke, or PCP, or a combination, but the behavior described is completely within the realm of possibility for even a single dosage.
I will not sit idly by while people defame and demean LSD. It wasn't to blame and if it was, LSD is still 85-90% safe.
Synthetic cathinones can cause:
paranoia
increased sociability
increased sex drive
hallucinations
panic attacks
In the dark ages when I went to college a local group would test your pills, no questions asked. Many came in with what they announced as LSD, but discovered other drugs in combination with or instead of LSD.
I don't think the FDA is certifying street drugs yet.
Blogger Bay Area Guy said...
Why is Chuck numbering his posts?
We made a deal - 50 comments by him without any reference to Trunp or Althouse in exchange for 1 big ass bottle of Gin.
Boodles?
It reminds me of the young man who did mushrooms and got violent. Ann blogged about it at the time. It ended badly when the man was shot.
The thing about drugs that really disrupt mental processes is that the disruption works very differently for different individuals and even for the same individual at different times, perhaps.
https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/severe-violent-psychosis-from-bad-trips-on-lsd-otherwise-mentally-healthy.750406/
Apologies if this has been said already, but this fellow was not 'delusional' he was under the influence of a serious amount of LSD.
Silly minorities...psychedelics are for white people.
I dropped more than most, and was witness to a gillion times more than that, and this describes no acid trip I can conceive of. The worst you ever heard of back in the day was someone (allegedly) trying to fly falling to his/her death (like Art Linkletter's daughter, it was said).
Dr. Althouse: Does that sound like LSD?
No. It sounds like a delusional San Francisco YouTube software engineer.
Big ass bottle of gin = a "handle" of gin?
If memory serves, the taking of LSD leads one to (seeming self-perceived) superhuman ability to take other stuff as well.
Jaore, LSD does not come in pills does it?
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