May 21, 2019

"'I Don’t Want an Exciting President'/Joe Biden makes his supporters feel safe, but nominating him is risky."

A NYT op-ed by Michelle Goldberg, which you probably feel you don't need to read because the headline says it all. In fact, I haven't read it, because that's how I feel. But I'm blogging it because the photographs at the link — by Damon Winter — are so eloquent and hilarious (or terrifying, if you're a Trump hater). You see the Biden crowd, and they look dull and inert. (Some of their dullness is the look of a person staring into an iPhone, and photographers will be able to catch people looking like that everywhere.)

ADDED: My son John blogs the Goldberg column and links to something I blogged on July 29, 2004:
Is anyone listening to the speeches at the Convention

who isn't listening through a filter of thinking about the way someone else would be hearing the speech? I think not. I think the someone else, for whom the speech was written and to whom it is delivered, is not tuned in at all. Everyone listening is either already a Kerry supporter hoping the speech will convince someone else or a journalistic observer analyzing whether the speech is the sort of thing that will have the effect on the target audience it is intended to have.

ADDED: My son John Althouse Cohen emails:
You wrote about how everyone watching the convention is imagining how the speeches will seem to someone else, even though it might be that none of those "someone elses" are actually watching the speeches. The same thing happened when Kerry won the primaries. Everyone was voting for him because they thought he would appeal to someone else. And those voters believed at the time that that was the politically savvy thing to do. But it was actually politically disastrous: if everyone was just voting for him because they thought someone else would like him, then NO ONE ACTUALLY LIKED HIM.

One problem is that if you're trying to choose the most "electable" person, I would imagine that you'd be likely to do it by process of elimination -- by ruling out all the candidates with obvious political liabilities. I think this is the number-one reason why Kerry won the primaries: he was the only candidate who didn't seem to have anything particularly wrong with him. Edwards was too inexperienced; Clark was a poor campaigner; Dean seemed kind of insane; Gephardt was too liberal; Lieberman was too conservative. So they choose the one candidate who has no qualities that would really make anyone hate him. The problem is that he also has no qualities that would really make anyone like him either.

112 comments:

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Safe? how? Biden grovels for forgiveness every time he is confronted by a leftwing lunatic. Biden is coward.

Skeptical Voter said...

You can only eat so much Pablum. Of course once in a while there is a gaffe to spice things up. And if you want terrifying, listen to Jill Biden at these rallies. I think I heard her say (on Saturday three days ago) "We have to kill this madness". I hope I did not hear her correctly. I don't want her doing the Edith Wilson bit and running the country when (or if) Slow Joe is elected and slides off into dementia.

MayBee said...

Any nomination is risky, right? Who knows what people will do with their vote?

Earnest Prole said...

Pardon the mixed metaphor but Trump will strip the bark off Biden and then gut him.

0_0 said...

The NYT really doesn't want Biden, do they?

Big Mike said...

(Some of their dullness is the look of a person staring into an iPhone, and photographers will be able to catch people looking like that everywhere.)

I gather that these days staring into an iPhone is what the college students really are doing.

Sydney said...

I thought the people front and center in those photos looked mean.

rhhardin said...

You can only eat so much Pablum.

It was a good hot cereal, though improved by the addition of dried banana flakes, which used to come in a resealable tin.

In the era of multiple children the oldest child had pablum in the house for years.

wendybar said...

Joes exciting!! He's a plagiarist, and he has some collusion going on with China.

narciso said...

He was a Soviet stooge in the 80s, re thr nuclear freeze, supporting the sandinistas, he was a paid minion of the subprime cartel, that evaded any accountability his Kurdish connected sherpa Galbraith made a killing on northern oil concessions and probably turned Karzai against us.

EDH said...

Those photos look like they’re from a 1950’s photo booth stuffing contest reunion.

Michael K said...

What worries me about Biden — above and beyond policy disagreements — is that, in contemporary politics, the quest to find an electable candidate hasn’t resulted in candidates that actually win.

I read a bit of it for amusement. One quoted enthusiast said "on a scale of 1 to 10 all 10 are to beat Trump." No mention of why.

They really are nuts , as we see here in comments.

traditionalguy said...

From that look on their faces that old crowd might be checking to see the latest Q Drop. Or one might suspect that they all know that returning to the fantasy of Global Governance and free slush funds for the top politicians has become hopeless.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

The next president should promise to do something about the non-stop illegal entrants flowing over our borders.

M Jordan said...

I can’t stand Biden. The leering grin, the assholian quips, the righteous preens, the utter vacuousness. But I kind of hope he gets the nom because I believe Trump will pull back that grinning mask and the world will see the ugly, hollow inner Joe.

Bay Area Guy said...

"'I Don’t Want an Exciting President'/Joe Biden makes his supporters feel safe, but nominating him is risky."

Michele Goldberg is a shallow, fussy, humorless, check-the-box, Leftist. She doesnt need to write any further NYT articles on politics, because we all know what she does want:

1. More abortion
2. More gay marriage
3. More feminist nonsense
4. No enforcement of our border
5. No Trump

Shorter Goldberg: blah, blah, blah, I hate Trump, blah, blah, blah, I hope Biden can beat him, blah, blah, blah, but Joe is a boring white male, blah, blah, blah, now I am worried, blah, blah, blah.

She probably could use a good rogering too, but I am not the man to do it.

narciso said...

It's the nutroots all over again, but this time they got 20 Howard Deans

Sebastian said...

"that's how I feel"

We know. We know you decide based on how you feel. Not that it keeps you from rationalizing the choice. And we know the outcome depends in part on on how the Althouses feel.

"I don't want an exciting president."

What does that even mean? What decisions would be unexciting? What approach to China and Russia and Iran would be unexciting? What policies on immigration and taxes and entitlements and judicial appointments? Why should unexcitingness have anything to do with it? It couldn't be just progspeak for a president who unexcitingly does exactly what progs want, could it?

Robert Cook said...

I Ain't Abidin' Biden!!

MBunge said...

Silver lining: At least there are people able to notice what a terrible candidate Biden is and feel safe in pointing it out. That's in contrast to Hillary Clinton and the myopic groupthink that blinded everyone to her legion of flaws.

Mike

narciso said...

Bending over backward for the former, remember it was Palin who pointed out that Putin would go after Ukraine, that's probably why Manafort probably helped freeze her out.
The labour party strategy on immigrations

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Biden - "They will put you in chains, y'all."

History tells a different story.

Nobody said...

I am sure that Joe Biden will clean up all of this “corruption” that is helping the steel industry maintain American jobs and the steelworkers will reward him for uncorking the flow of dumped overseas steel into the US market, right Joe? Joe?

"Save the Climate” vs “Save the Jobs”

What’s the winning message here? Joe?

Dave Begley said...

I saw Tim Ryan yesterday in Iowa. Sleeper candidate. He'd be much better than Biden. But who wouldn't?

Nobody said...

Australia has to be ringing around in Joe’s empty head like the clapper of a cowbell. <<-- I am proud of that one!

This is why California has all but done away with the secret ballot with their vote harvesting plan. I don’t know why Republicans don’t take them to court.

Ann Althouse said...

I read and link to the NYT all the time. If you don't like it, just pass on by. Totally boring topic for the comments: You don't like the paywall. Come on. If you had to PAY to post a comment on my blog, you wouldn't PAY for that either. Offer something worth our time and attention.

I'm deleting all comments about the paywall. I know there's a paywall. We all do. Now, say something interesting and relevant. Don't be boring!!

Jeez, the subject under discussion IS boringness. See if you can discuss it without BEING boring.

Bay Area Guy said...

Tim Ryan and Seth Moulton are both good men. But they are outliers in a once sane Democrat Party that caters to Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Eric Swallwell, AOC, Omar, Tlaib and other certified wackos.

narciso said...

The lesson of times select, didnt teach them anything.

Tom T. said...

The risk with Biden is his health. Choice of running mate will be of unusual importance.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

She’s saying that Trump excites people, one way or another, and so that’s bad, natch. It’s the lamest sort of making a virtue of necessity. Biden’s leap to the top of the Donk polls is the clearest indicator of how absolutely appalling most Donks find the rest of the Donk field. They’d be delighted to have a Jeb-Cruz-Walker sort of choice. Instead they have Biden and twenty flavors of batshit.

Henry said...

You could potentially have written the same thing about Trump, back in the day.

clint said...

Perhaps a test-run of Biden's general campaign theme.

if you're tired of the moral panics, of the nightly newscasters screaming at you about constitutional crises and children in cages and judge-rapists, if you just want to go back to Normalcy -- vote for Biden.

BarrySanders20 said...

"I Ain't Abidin' Biden!!"

The dude Abide(n)s.

TJM said...

Wait until the commercials start playing "Joe's Best Gropes!" Or the Ukrainian scandal breaks. Or a number of folks in the Obozo Regime are indicted.

Darkisland said...

Former VP = Unelectable

John Henry

Fen said...

I'm confused, what does Michelle Goldberg sniffing Joe Biden's old jockstraps have to do with paywalls?

MayBee said...

Nobody said...
Australia has to be ringing around in Joe’s empty head like the clapper of a cowbell. <<-- I am proud of that one!


I hope it is. Because the left in Australia was running on issues much like the loud left wants the Democrats to run on here. And I really don't think that will work. The person smart enough to figure that out has a much better chance in the general.

Charlie said...

Once the bright lights and the cameras are turned on people are going to realize that Biden has been wrong about every single issue of the last 50 years. They will then turn to someone else, like Alfred E. Neuman or Fauxcahantas.

Fen said...

Wait, did Michelle Goldberg mean to say that Joe Biden's old jockstraps are behind a paywall? Because that would make more sense.

Bay Area Guy said...

Shorter, irate, Althouse:

"Will you BORING fuckheads stop being so fucking boring when discussing the issue of BORING politicians?"

Biden is boring. He's been a creature of Washington DC for nearly 50 years. From Delaware? I'm not even sure where Delaware is. The entire state has 900K people. So, it's about the size of San Francisco. Why the f%ck does Delaware get 2 Senators, for 900K people, while California gets 2 Senators for 40 Million? Inequality!

I guess Dem women who have had their hair involuntarily sniffed by Joe are keeping quiet these days. Don't wanna knock off the best challenge to Trump.

That's politics. Sad!

stevew said...

In electoral politics exciting creates motivation to vote.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Some locals are complaining about their increased property tax hikes. They say they are good "progressives" and wonder why. LOL - Democratics live eat shit fuck and die to tax. When it happens to you, suck it up. You are the target, not the so-called google.

SGT Ted said...

The problem with any Dem candidate trying to portray themselves as centrist or boring is that the Democrat party is almost completely hard left, chock full of neo-Communist internationalist Amerikkka haters, Islamist sympathizers and leftoid-Muslim allied anti-Semites.

Add in the weird SJW anti-white, anti-male racists and sexists and you have a true haters party. It's like hipster Nazis with nose rings, tats and purple hair.

Fen said...

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent: She’s saying that Trump excites people, one way or another, and so that’s bad, natch. It’s the lamest sort of making a virtue of necessity. Biden’s leap to the top of the Donk polls is the clearest indicator of-

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SGT Ted said...

Any complaints about Trump being exciting is simply sour grapes due to their current crop of anti-charismatic and pathologically incompetent cultural bigots, totalitarians and Communists, given the gushing Maoist tripe about Barack "Light Bringer" Obama we saw for 8 years.

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...

Speaking of Government Whores

Bernie Sanders Wants to Destroy the Best Schools Poor Urban Kids Have

NCMoss said...

I don't think Biden knows how to develop and grow a voter base like Obama and Trump successfully did. It's hillarious that he and other Democrats see the path to victory as bashing Trump and relying on polls.

traditionalguy said...

Biden is a place holder to make Bernie wither away again. The Globalists real pick seems more and more to be sweet Mayor Pete. The Mayor has mastered a suave socialism of the Hereditary Rulers. With a little help from his European buddies he can be counted on to blow away the rude Colonial Deplorables and arise to the True Throne.

Mike said...

Completely unrelated to Biden but about something you said in your post regarding the headline "which you probably feel you don't need to read because the headline says it all." I've noticed this with movie trailers too. My wife and I watch trailers while searching Amazon & Netflix to pick a movie, and I often say to her after a trailer that I feel like we just watched the entire movie. It's both frustrating and satisfying because I don't want to waste two hours on something you can tell/show me in 2 minutes. But we also probably miss some enjoyable movies simply because the people responsible for the trailer told/showed us too much. Which, on reflection, is applicable to politicians and campaign managers and how they choose to present themselves to the public.

Birkel said...

Having a job is boring for many (and perhaps most) people.

Therefore Trump is the most boring president ever.
QED

Nonapod said...

Be careful not to get too cocky. Just because Dems don't appear overly enthusiatistic about Biden doesn't mean they won't bother turning out to vote for him. They may not appear to be in love with Biden, but one thing's for sure, they are in love with hating Trump. They'll turn out to vote for a piece of toast if it's running against Trump.

Browndog said...

Biden safety tips are the best.

Like, if a horde of murderous burglars kick in your front door, just grab your shotgun and blast a couple shells skyward.

Easy Peasy.

This method of self-defense is the type of thing democrats can really rally around, and why Biden has vaulted to the top of the charts.

Michael said...

1) The people in those pictures are bored-looking and (mostly) 1000 years old.

2) The Times still seems to want Kamela Harris, so the picture selections probably don't just happen to be turn-offs.

Big Mike said...

Once the bright lights and the cameras are turned on people are going to realize that Biden has been wrong about every single issue of the last 50 years.

I was wondering whether anyone else would realize that. Trump has so many ways to attack Biden using Biden’s own words, it hurts my head to think about it.

Seeing Red said...

Get your own life and the president won’t be exciting.

Francisco D said...

I Ain't Abidin' Biden!!

You won't have to.

If he wins, the DNC will select his Cabinet and they will run the show while he naps.

narciso said...

Let's see how they do in the debates, then the primaries and the general.

Saint Croix said...

Comments that seem wacky now...

Gephardt was too liberal

narciso said...

Hes cleaning up the mess Hillary left:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqjournal.com/1318504/hifters-rule-brings-security-to-eastern-libya-at-a-cost.html/amp

Henry said...

John is describing Arrow's Impossibility Theorem as a psychological system.

Kenneth Arrow: "Most systems are not going to work badly all of the time. All I proved is that all can work badly at times."

robother said...

Hasn't Biden more or less promised to physically beat up Trump at the debates? Assuming the rules of engagement don't require the Secret Service to gun him down, that could inject his campaign with some energy.

Perhaps he could use the Democrat primary debates as a tune-up, After Hillary, Democrats should appreciate finding out if Kamala or Mayor Pete has a glass jaw.

rehajm said...

Biden is the pick. DNC didn't really change the rules. 27 of them won't attract any money or will quickly blow through what they garner, one will refuse to leave the stage after their time is up, and we'll be left with Joe and the one the hardcores decide to back. The elites will step in, piss off the hard cores, then it will be over...

M Jordan said...

“The problem is that he also has no qualities that would really make anyone like him either.”

I agree with son John. It’s the equivalent of negative space drawing. At some point you need to be observing the subject, not the surrounding data.

Nobody said...

The NYT is worth the $2 a week for the belly laughs alone.

M Jordan said...

“They may not appear to be in love with Biden, but one thing's for sure, they are in love with hating Trump. They'll turn out to vote for a piece of toast if it's running against Trump.”

Biden’s toast.

Laslo Spatula said...

I think it is time for a Talking Heads Video Blog (I can't remember what the name of those were) with Althouse and her son.

I'd watch.

I am Laslo.

Christy said...

Couldn't read the article. Used up all my free reads on Game of Thrones. Much as I dislike the Times for all the typical reasons, I do appreciate the quality of their wordsmiths, especially after reading all the fanboy and fangirl deconstructions on the interweb.(N.B. Auto-correct is fine with fanboy. Doesn't recognize fangirl.)

Sebastian said...

"why Kerry won the primaries: he was the only candidate who didn't seem to have anything particularly wrong with him"

Funny stuff. As in, actually made me laugh.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Oh, I remember the '04 election. That was the election where the anti-war forces' chosen candidate (Kerry) was self-confessed war criminal who sought the endorsement of another self-confessed war-criminal (Clarke).

PM said...

If Biden is getting play, why doesn't Nancy Pelosi run? I mean, she's female, smart, knows the system in and out and how to game it. She's a 'centrist' or what passes for it in today's Dem party. Sure, she'll be 80 but that's the new 75. Personally, I can't stand her, wouldn't vote for her, but I have to admit she's got balls.

Nobody said...

“On my list of 10 things, 1 to 10 is beat Donald,” said Shyvette Brown, 63. “Health care is 11. And everything else comes after that.” Brown said that she likes Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, but 2016 made her think that Americans aren’t ready to elect a woman. “I don’t like it,” she said. “I don’t think it’s fair.” But given the stakes, she wants the surest possible bet. “We can’t play. This is all or nothing. This is the end game right here.”

Yes, vote for the guy who will leave the people who are not 100% invested in ditching Trump but care about other issues to stay home. That will work.

Once again, how is the Democrat Party going to get people who think there is a climate emergency and wish the union steelworkers and autoworker types would all just die already to come out and vote for the guy who tries to get those former Democrats back by protecting their jobs?

How is that guy going to get former Reagan Democrat types, now Trump Democrats to return to the fold by promising to end the fights for their jobs that Trump has undertaken?

Bill R said...

Well I hated Kerry. A phony war hero. A slanderer of US soldiers. He threw his unearned medals over the White House fence and then claimed he didn't.

The only thing I do like about him is that he married two - count 'em TWO - billionaire widows. Quite an accomplishment.

Bill Peschel said...

I wish someone would ask these people calling for calm if they thought about accepting the result of the election. That would calm things down, wouldn't they?

This is like the abusive husband blaming the wife for his violence.

Martin said...

It is pretty clear that the NYT does NOT want Biden.

Nobody said...

I would vote for Pelosi over Biden, or any of them. Just not over Trump.

Nobody said...

t is pretty clear that the NYT does NOT want Biden.

This is the second piece like this this week, and I don’t read the whole paper. They are "flooding the zone” on this rethink of Biden.

Nobody said...

If Americans won’t vote for Hillary Fucking Clinton, they will NEVER vote for a woman! <<-Democrat logic.

stevew said...

This is very interesting, especially your added insight.

Biden is what you get when the party tries to war game the election: a boring, non-controversial, non-exciting candidate. Thinking out loud, if the Parties had taken this approach in previous election cycles would we have had Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, & Trump? I think not.

The problem for the Democrats is that there is no one yet running that can be exciting and motivating - plus they are to focused on hating and defeating Trump rather than on winning the hearts, minds, and votes of the voting Americans.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Wasn't 2004 the election when Edwards had his Mistress with him on the campaign trail while his wife was dying of cancer & the press never caught on?

Nobody said...

I Ain't Abidin' Biden!!

I thought the plan was bidin’ your time with a progressive VP waiting for his brain to pop, again. Biden is all about biding. He’s a stalking horse for a flat out commie. The only problem with that approach is you can’t say it out loud too many times.... Shhhhh!

Nobody said...

I do appreciate the quality of their *wordsmiths*,

Arrrrghhh!

gilbar said...

Gephardt was too liberal
Gee! Remember back in the olden days? Back when Gephardt was too liberal?

In regards to Biden, can we say that Biden is the Emperor's New Candidate?
Kinda like Jeb Bush, with All that Money spent on him; There Must be Something there , right?

Big Mike said...

@Lewis Wetzel, that’s incompletely true. The National Enquirer figured it out.

Ice Nine said...

>>"I know there's a paywall. We all do. Now, say something interesting and relevant. Don't be boring!!"
Fen>"To do that, I would need material from the article, which is behind a paywall. Etc..."

That entire post was interesting, Fen.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Media demands the candidate they can monetize most effectively. Benjamins, always the benjamins!

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2019/05/whats-really-behind-impeachment-con.html

Bricap said...

That was a good synopsis of 2004. I would add that the old model of appealing to the center was already defunct, and that the GOP already realized it was about turning out the base. I'm not sure the Dems have figured it out yet. Dean might have turned out some of the base that Kerry couldn't (or wouldn't?) energize. But we'll never know.

Balfegor said...

Re: Jaltcoh:

[Kerry] was the only candidate who didn't seem to have anything particularly wrong with him.

That points to a huge blind-spot in the worldview of Democratic primary voters. The idea that having been a prominent anti-war activist in Vietnam -- accusing US soldiery of behaving like Genghis Khan, throwing medals away, etc. -- wasn't going to be a liability seems, in retrospect, to have been a massive miscalculation. I know the media tried to pooh-pooh it all and hush it up, but it was clear during the campaign that there were a lot of Vietnam veterans who were viscerally disgusted with Kerry, and were keen to get that message out to the public any way they could.

Robert Cook said...

"The problem with any Dem candidate trying to portray themselves as centrist or boring is that the Democrat party is almost completely hard left, chock full of neo-Communist internationalist Amerikkka haters, Islamist sympathizers and leftoid-Muslim allied anti-Semites."

I'm having a problem trying to discern if this statement is more stupid or more crazy.

Unknown said...

Call me old-fashioned, but I draw the line at cheating on your terminally ill wife; running for president anyway, despite knowing that if you win the nomination (or are named to the ticket), you could still totally tank it for your party. John F. Edwards is the all-time creep, in either of the two Americas. -WSW

Pokerone said...

Bill R. wrote:

"Well I hated Kerry. A phony war hero. A slanderer of US soldiers. He threw his unearned medals over the White House fence and then claimed he didn't."

Kerry wan't lying, the story is he borrowed the medals he threw over the fence, he kept his medals, displaying them in his office years later.

Was it Bay Area Guy who mentioned Seth Moulton as a good guy? Moulton is a Salem, Mass. Democrat hack, who stretched the truth about how many businesses he started. He was a vocal supporter of Hillary hoping to get a spot somewhere in her administration because he doesn't like being a Congressman. When she lost he got it into his mind to oppose Nancy Pelosi the results being he is now running for President because he's been told he has no future. He'll get a MSNBC gig after he's humiliated in the primaries.

All of you who complain about Althouse's story choices, actually her sources of story choices should read Tom Wolfe's essay(s?) about the New Yorker and why it flourishes in small mid-western markets. It's gobbled up by women who yearn to be some part of the cosmopolitan world of New York but must live in Ann Arbor or Madison for work life reasons.

Althouse will never stop reading the house organs of that region - mindset, it is who she is.

narciso said...

Madison is the Berkeley of the midwest, we point out what the times leaves out of the picture.

bleh said...

To me it's painfully obvious what's going to happen to Biden. At the first debate he'll be standing in the center as the frontrunner and both the moderators and the other candidates will grind him into tiny shards of wreckage. Biden won't be able to respond effectively aside from doing his strange shit-eating Joker grin routine.

They'll attack his creepy non-consensual touching, they'll bring up his plagiarism, they'll talk about his comment that Obama was an "articulate, clean" black man, they'll talk about his 90's crime bill, they'll bring up Anita Hill, they'll attack his record on foreign policy including Iraq ... basically it's a perfect shitstorm of everything that would make a person look bad in the eyes of the 2019 Democratic Party, especially if it's an old white man. They won't bring up his shady contacts and dealings in Ukraine, however, because that could make the Party look bad.

No amount of debate preparation can save Biden because, frankly, he's just not good enough or smart enough to defend himself against the inevitable onslaught.

exhelodrvr1 said...

"Instead they have Biden and twenty flavors of batshit."

Biden isn't batshit-free, he's just the "strawberry tart without so much batshit in it". (Apologies to Monty Python.)

narciso said...

Biden imploded before he ever got to the primaries what makes him think hell do better now?

Yancey Ward said...

David,

How did the crowd react to Ryan? I also think he could be a sleeper candidate.

Yancey Ward said...

If the NYTimes doesn't want Biden, they will have to go after the son. Will they?

Kevin said...

Living in Boston back then, the initial sentiment was "anyone but John Kerry".

Then Kerry became the nominee and everyone supported him.

Not supported-supported. They didn't put signs in their windows or stickers on their cars like they did for other people.

They just didn't like Bush. It could have been anyone, and there was no sign or sticker for that.

Biden feels like Kerry redux.

They're not voting FOR him, they're voting AGAINST Trump.

It could be anyone. Even Biden.

Brian said...

From the article: “On my list of 10 things, 1 to 10 is beat Donald,” said Shyvette Brown, 63. “Health care is 11. And everything else comes after that.”

And that is the tell for how they know Trump will be re-elected. If they truly thought he wouldn't be elected they wouldn't worry about it so much. Their subconcious know that he's likely to be re-elected.

wendybar said...

Joe changes with the wind. "During a September 2007 Democrat presidential primary debate in New Hampshire at Dartmouth College, Biden said he would not support allowing local jurisdictions and states to ignore federal immigration law to help protect illegal aliens from deportation through sanctuary city policies." Now he "evolved" on this too I guess. What else has he "evolved" on???https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/20/flashback-joe-biden-in-2007-vowed-to-ban-sanctuary-cities-for-illegal-aliens/

wendybar said...

It's on tape. I know it is a Breitbart article, but play the video.....

Bilwick said...

I just want a presidency where, at the end of four years, the country is significantly freer and less statist than it was on Inauguration Day, If course, with all the "liberal" waiting and gnashing of teeth that would engender, such a presidency would be pretty exciting.

wendybar said...

Lewis Wetzel said...
Wasn't 2004 the election when Edwards had his Mistress with him on the campaign trail while his wife was dying of cancer & the press never caught on?
5/21/19, 10:22 AM

The Press knew. They just didn't report on it...which is why the National Enquirer did. (Similar to what the MSM does or doesn't report on now)Per Wikipedia.."CBS News journalist, Bob Schieffer, asked about the allegations on Imus in the Morning, stating, "I believe that's a story that we will be avoiding, because it appears to me that there's absolutely nothing to it ... This seems to be just sort of a staple of modern campaigns, that you got through at least one love child, which turns out not to be a love child. And I think we can all do better than this one."[33] Mickey Kaus, a journalist at Slate, speculated that the lack of mainstream coverage was motivated by a desire not to harm Elizabeth Edwards, who was fighting cancer at the time. Kaus also considered the possibility of news organizations taking a "wait-and-see" attitude, pending the results of the Iowa caucuses.[34]"

Birkel said...

Robert Cook is having a hard time discerning.
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Birkel said...

Bilwick for president!

dbp said...

"Former VP = Unelectable"

George H.W. Bush did it and Al Gore darn near did it and probably would have had he not tacked left and acted deranged throughout his campaign.

One difference and a big one, the VPs ran on the heels of the popular president they served under. Biden's skipping a term might be critical.

Biden will look a total fool in primary debates but there are a score of progressives who will divide the vote and Biden will always win each primary. It will be like it was with Trump and a bunch of normal Republicans. Most Republicans had Trump at the bottom of their choices but their top choices were divided ten ways. The people who liked Trump were more numerous than supporters for any of the other ten or so.

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Pokerone said...
Bill R. wrote:

"Well I hated Kerry. A phony war hero. A slanderer of US soldiers. He threw his unearned medals over the White House fence and then claimed he didn't."

Kerry wan't lying, the story is he borrowed the medals he threw over the fence, he kept his medals, displaying them in his office years later.
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Did the people Kerry "borrowed" those medals from know he was going to throw them away while pretending they were his??

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Fen said...

"He threw his unearned medals over the White House fence and then claimed he didn't."

Kerry wan't lying, the story is he borrowed the medals he threw over the fence

The lie was Kerry pretending to discard symbols awarded to him in protest.

"I can no longer sit idle while this company commits one atrocity after another. As of this moment, my Asst Manager is tendering his resignation." - John Kerry

What a poser.

Fen said...

Althouse: I'm deleting all comments about the paywall. I know there's a paywall. We all do.

No, we don't. Nowhere do you warn us your link leads to a paywall. How about extending the courtesy of a warning so you don't waste OUR time. Or do you even think about people other than yourself?

Now, say something interesting and relevant. Don't be boring!!

When did you become such a censorous Nazi. Deleting 3 posts because we are "not allowed" to complain about an article being behind a paywall? Go fuck yourself.

mikee said...

Kerry had a lot wrong with him, both in his history and his policies. It is just that those things were also the platform and history of the Democrat Party.

Ann Althouse said...

"Nowhere do you warn us your link leads to a paywall. How about extending the courtesy of a warning so you don't waste OUR time. Or do you even think about people other than yourself?"

The warning is "NYT." Short and sweet. If you don't know the NYT has a paywall... I find that hard to believe, but I'm not going to waste everyone's time tending to your remedial education.